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the wharf rat

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Jul 17, 2003, 12:45:09 PM7/17/03
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How do I get to Freeport? I found some boats in the Dwarf City
in the Butcherblock and got on one. It went out into the water and crossed
into a new zone (??? Deep) and then stopped. It _seemed_ as though
I could steer the boat as though I were walking but I couldn't really tell
if I actually was or what direction I should steer it in in any case.
Eventually I fell off and gated out of the water before some sea monster
ate me...

So, I'm in Faydwer and want to get to Freeport. Does Norrath
have travel agents? Do I need to practice my swimming?

Graeme Faelban

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:13:54 PM7/17/03
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wr...@io.com (the wharf rat) wrote in news:jZCcnStap4Y...@io.com:

You take the other boat, not the one that takes you to Timorous Deep.
Also, you could not steer the boat at all. If you go to the end of the
rightmost dock at the harbor there in Butcherblock, and wait for the
boat, it will eventually arrive, hop on board, and 30ish minutes later
you will be in Freeport.

Alternatively, if you have Planes of Power, click on one of the handy
books in Gfay, then go click on the Freeport book.

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Lance Berg

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:22:43 PM7/17/03
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the wharf rat wrote:

> How do I get to Freeport? I found some boats in the Dwarf City
> in the Butcherblock and got on one. It went out into the water and crossed
> into a new zone (??? Deep) and then stopped. It _seemed_ as though
> I could steer the boat as though I were walking but I couldn't really tell
> if I actually was or what direction I should steer it in in any case.
> Eventually I fell off and gated out of the water before some sea monster
> ate me...
>

You got on the wrong boat.

Facing the ocean, go to the dock on the right and wait for a very large boat to
come in to port. Sails and everything. Much much bigger than the four little
barges you hopped on to get to Timorous Deep.

That boat will set sail after sitting for a couple minutes, you'll zone in to
the Ocean of Tears. The boat will travel a bit, pull up to a dock and stop for
a short rest (this is "brother island"), then move on thru the zone, eventually
(I want to say 15 minutes but I could be hallucinating) zoning again into East
Freeport. Stay on the boat and it will pull up to a dock, thats Freeport.
Assuming you aren't "evil" you can walk right in safe as houses. If you are
having trouble with the locals, its possible to jump ship and swim to some
tunnels that lead under the city, which may or may not be safer.

>
> So, I'm in Faydwer and want to get to Freeport. Does Norrath
> have travel agents? Do I need to practice my swimming?

Other notes; the Timorous Deep barge you took stops out in TD for a while and
then eventually an even bigger ship than the Freeport one shows up, you get on
-that- and ride it for a bit and eventually zone in to Firiona Vie, pause a bit
then move to a dock there. That boat will wait there a bit, then move back
into Timorous Deep, travel a bit, stop and wait for a similar little boat to
the BB-TD one, but which will take you to an elven outpost in TD. Stay on the
ship and eventually it will move again, next time it stops its waiting for the
boat back to BB this time.

Stay on the BB-Freeport ship at the freeport dock and it will after a minute or
two move back to the Ocean of Tears for the return voyage, this time it will
stop at a different island, "sister isle", then move off to a long sea voyage
culminating in zoning back to Butcherblock.

Also, thats not a dwarf city you've found there in Butcherblock, its just a
little outpost around the dock. The city, Kaladim, is also reached from BB,
but is a seperate zone (two actually), and its a lot bigger. Since its dug in
under a mountain, running boats out of it seems like an exercise in futility,
not that dwarves are above such things.

Lets see, what else. In Oasis there's a raft that leads out to a different
island in Timorous Deep, where docks a different ship which will take you to
Overthere. And in Timorous Deep there's a room in a far off corner, where
you'll find firepots that will port you to most races starting cities (not
Qeynos, nor Shar Val) In Qeynos there's a ship that leads thru Erud's Crossing
to Erudin, and then back, in one of the two directions stopping at an island in
the crossing (I forget which way) And in North Ro there's a dock with a raft
that will take you to a tiny island in Iceclad Ocean where docks a steamship
that will take you to a dock in the same zone far faster than you can swim the
distance.

Thats about it for boats (well there's one across the lake in Hallas...) Later
we'll discuss the Luclin portal system, the POK book system, and player Ports.

Bergh, 65 cleric, Morel Thule


LANkrypt0

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:18:22 PM7/17/03
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twr> How do I get to Freeport? I found some boats in the Dwarf City
twr> in the Butcherblock and got on one. It went out into the water and crossed
twr> into a new zone (??? Deep) and then stopped. It _seemed_ as though
twr> I could steer the boat as though I were walking but I couldn't really tell
twr> if I actually was or what direction I should steer it in in any case.
twr> Eventually I fell off and gated out of the water before some sea monster
twr> ate me...
twr>
twr> So, I'm in Faydwer and want to get to Freeport. Does Norrath
twr> have travel agents? Do I need to practice my swimming?
twr>
The boat you are looking for is in Butcherblock Mountains. When you come
to the docks you will see a set to the right and one to the left. You
want to take the righthand boat, it may take a while for it to arrive, but
it will. Stay on that boat until you zone into freeport. Those boats are
not steerable (unless something has changed). Just stay in the middle of
the boat because they are still buggy, always have been and I will assume
they always will be.


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Corey

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:20:47 PM7/17/03
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"the wharf rat" <wr...@io.com> wrote in message news:jZCcnStap4Y...@io.com...

If you have the Planes of Power (PoP) expansion, go to the Plane of Knowledge (PoK) by clicking on the book that's on a stand that
on the trail from the Dwarf city (Kaladim) to the Greater Faydark zone line. It's not far down the trail from Kaladim, and it's on
your right. Once in PoK, you can find and click on the stone marked Freeport (click on the map icon in your toolbar to find the
right stone). That will take you straight to Freeport with the hassle of the boat.

If you don't have the PoP expansion, or really want to take a boat, take the large sailing ship that comes to the dock on the right
about every 15 minutes, and just stay on it. Do not take the flat-topped boats that are at the left dock - they go to a Kunark
zone. After the sailing ship zones into the Ocean of Tears, it will sit for approximately 1.5-2 minutes, giving sufficient time for
all the characters who were on the boat to zone. Some people on older machines or who have really slow connections need that extra
time. The boat will take a long trip through the Ocean of Tears, stopping at an island or two (don't get off the boat on these
islands!), and then eventually zone into East Freeport. You can get off once the boat stops at the dock.

A word of caution: the boats are really bug-ridden. Many patches have broken them and people dying on the boats due to link death
during zoning, falling for 20,000 points of damage, falling off, etc. because of screw ups in EQ's code are a fairly common
occurrence. So, use the PoP stones if you can, and if you can't, when you board the boat, go to the center of it, not near any
mast, and just sit down for the whole trip. It's reasonably safe if you do that.

Sean Kennedy

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:30:14 PM7/17/03
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wr...@io.com (the wharf rat) wrote in news:jZCcnStap4Y...@io.com:

>

you got on the wrong boats

Those boats are shuttles to take you partway to Kunark.

As you face the water, you want the dock on your right.
Instead of the litte shuttles you'll see a sailing ship
show up there (long waits though, be warned) - hop
on that and it will take you to Freeport.

Mclan99

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:38:39 PM7/17/03
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>Thats about it for boats (well there's one across the lake in Hallas...)
>Later
>we'll discuss the Luclin portal system, the POK book system, and player
>Ports.


Kids today have it so easy don't they? LOL

When I was their age, we didn't have PoK books or Luclin Portals... We had to
either find a Druid or Wizard willing to port our butts around or we had to run
from one end of Antonica to the other and then take the boats... (And for the
record... that boat from BB to FP is indeed a LONG ride... I had enough time
to get on the boat in game, then in r/l get up, drive to the store, do a bit of
shopping, come home and I STILL had not zoned into Freeport... hehe Ok, so
the store is less than a minutes drive from my house and all I had to get were
smokes and some snacks, but still...)

But while we're on the subject of 'When I was your age' EQ style, does anyone
have any others?

I know that 'When I was your age', we didn't have newbie armor. We had to run
around in Mud Stained Tunics until we could buy leather... LOL

'When I was your age', we didn't have KEI, we had to make due with Breeze and
Clarity and we were damned happy to get those... (ok, so this is less
applicable since they fixed the 'bug' allowing lowbies to get KEI but still...
LOL)

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Lance Berg

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Jul 17, 2003, 1:57:20 PM7/17/03
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Mclan99 wrote:

>
> 'When I was your age', we didn't have KEI, we had to make due with Breeze and
> Clarity and we were damned happy to get those... (ok, so this is less
> applicable since they fixed the 'bug' allowing lowbies to get KEI but still...
> LOL)

Newbie

When I was your age there -was- no breeze, we had to get from 1 to 29 without a
single taste of caffeine, I remember when Kunark came out I was on my third
character camping in Oasis and eagerly awaiting the rafts in from Timorous Deep
with the few who had the expansion bringing in fresh copies of the spell to auction
off.

My first mage wore Raw Silk armor he'd made himself all the way up to when I
stopped playing him at level 28.

Splendid, 5 mage, Firiona Vie

Mclan99

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Jul 17, 2003, 2:20:17 PM7/17/03
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>Newbie
>
>When I was your age there -was- no breeze, we had to get from 1 to 29 without
>a
>single taste of caffeine, I remember when Kunark came out...

Holy Wha! I didn't realize there was no Breeze/Clarity in the Pre Kunark days!
I've been playing for a long time, but apparently not quite as long as you...
:o)

LOL! Oh, I thought of another one too...

This conversation (albeit very paraphrased at this point) actually took place
between myself and another player a few months ago...

Player: What is Najena?

Me: Caster, not too bad if you know what you're doing but best to be grouped at
your level (she was high teens).

Player: So the zone is a person?

Me: Um... No. Najena is the only NPC that I'm aware of that has an entire
zoned named for her though.

Player: What the hell makes her so special?

Me: Well, before they turned it into a ridiculous quest, you used to kill her
to get the JBoots. She used to be permacamped.

Player: What are JBoots and what is permacamped?

(AT this point another group member chimed in)

Other Player: What do you mean she used to have the Boots? I don't remember
her EVER having them and I've been playing for a LONG time now.

Player: Hello? What are JBoots?

Me: JBoots are kinda like Instant SoW. Click Boots, go fast. And yes, she did
indeed used to have them. Permacamped is basically... someone is ALWAYS
camping that spawn. No matter when you log in, someone is camping her and
there is a waiting list to camp next.

Other Player: You're full of it. You were never able to get JBoots just from
killing one little mob. N00B.

Me: Whatever /disband

LOL

I forget sometimes that not everyone knows about all the changes the game has
gone through since it first came out... hehe

So I guess another one would be:
'When I was your age' we didn't quest to hell and back for JBoots, we waited in
line to kill Najena to get them.

sugarman

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Jul 17, 2003, 3:51:10 PM7/17/03
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On 17 Jul 2003 17:38:39 GMT, mcl...@aol.comnospam (Mclan99) wrote:

>>Thats about it for boats (well there's one across the lake in Hallas...)
>>Later
>>we'll discuss the Luclin portal system, the POK book system, and player
>>Ports.
>
>
>Kids today have it so easy don't they? LOL
>
>When I was their age, we didn't have PoK books or Luclin Portals... We had to
>either find a Druid or Wizard willing to port our butts around or we had to run
>from one end of Antonica to the other and then take the boats... (And for the
>record... that boat from BB to FP is indeed a LONG ride... I had enough time
>to get on the boat in game, then in r/l get up, drive to the store, do a bit of
>shopping, come home and I STILL had not zoned into Freeport... hehe Ok, so
>the store is less than a minutes drive from my house and all I had to get were
>smokes and some snacks, but still...)
>
>But while we're on the subject of 'When I was your age' EQ style, does anyone
>have any others?

Dammit! You had druids and wizards to port you around? Why back in
my day, there weren't any that were high enough level to even *know*
the spell. Hell, we walked everywhere we wanted to go, and we were
proud when we got there.

Now getting bound to where you where at was tricky, cuz there weren't
that many people in their teen's yet, so it cost you a pretty penny to
get yourself stuck at your new zone. I can't believe you young-uns
and your Soulbinders! Pfah!

--sugarman--

Graeme Faelban

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Jul 17, 2003, 3:55:31 PM7/17/03
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Walk? You got to walk? .....

Dan Day

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Jul 17, 2003, 5:32:30 PM7/17/03
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On 17 Jul 2003 18:20:17 GMT, mcl...@aol.comnospam (Mclan99) wrote:
>Me: Um... No. Najena is the only NPC that I'm aware of that has an entire
>zoned named for her though.
>
>Player: What the hell makes her so special?
>
>Me: Well, before they turned it into a ridiculous quest, you used to kill her
>to get the JBoots. She used to be permacamped.
>[snip]

>
>Other Player: You're full of it. You were never able to get JBoots just from
>killing one little mob. N00B.

It was slightly before my time, but I'm pretty sure that the mob
who dropped the JBoots in Najena wasn't Najena herself, it was
some mob with the name Princess or Priestess or something like that,
who spawned in the Ogre Guard room.

Mclan99

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Jul 17, 2003, 5:32:43 PM7/17/03
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>Why back in
>> my day, there weren't any that were high enough level to even *know*
>> the spell. Hell, we walked everywhere we wanted to go, and we were
>> proud when we got there.

>Walk? You got to walk? .....

LOL! Yup, and it was up hill, both ways... and we only had one pair of
tattered boots to last us the whole year... Snow up to our eyeballs... (well
ok, if you were born in Halas anyway) and dangerous critters around every
corner...

I'm loving where this thread is going! :o) I see I'm not the only one who had
to grow up listening to 'Joshua Stories' as my family called them... hehe My
Dad actually used to pull that whole "I had to walk 5 miles to school, each
way... blah blah" until such time that I was old enough to understand
distance... Then, we were visiting the little town in Southern Illinois where
he grew up and he took me to the spot where his childhood home had once stood
(it had been destroyed by fire sometime in the late 60's) and from there he
drove (LITERALLY) 2 blocks around the corner to where he went to school...
Nice try Pops. hehe

What on EARTH are we going to tell our own children? "When I was your age, we
only had BASIC cable..." "You don't know how good you have it! When I was
your age, we didn't have all this Playstation, XBox crap... we had an Atari and
we were damn lucky to have that!"

LMBO! Of course, I'm 38, so I actually didn't even have cable or Atari as a
kid. Those didn't come about til I was in my early High School days... hehe

Dan Day

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Jul 17, 2003, 5:42:51 PM7/17/03
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:57:20 GMT, Lance Berg <emp...@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
>My first mage wore Raw Silk armor he'd made himself all the way up to when I
>stopped playing him at level 28.

My Paladin (still my main character) wore full Bronze plate armor
for over a dozen levels, until I quested a full set of Armor of Ro
in his early 30's.

Armor of Ro was great stuff then, and although the quests were
hard at that level, they were fair and a huge amount of fun -- I
still think that's one of the best examples of a well designed quest.
After doing the quests you had seen remote areas you'd never have
been to otherwise, fought mobs you didn't think you could handle
(e.g. Sand Giants, deep Mistmoore, eek!) but could pull off with
some good friends of similar level, and gained a real sense of
accomplishment. It was the first time I really felt like a
traveling knight, slaying dangerous beasts in remote regions just
like in the movies.

Today, of course, people just buy better armor in the Bazaar for
less plat than cost of just the storebought ingredient portion
of the Armor of Ro quests (2 platinum bars per item), and no one
does the quests. It's a shame.

Davian

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Jul 17, 2003, 5:59:31 PM7/17/03
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"Dan Day" <dd...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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Drezeldna, I believe, was the name of the mob that dropped the J'boots.

I quit before attempting to camp that, so I'm probably spelling it wrong.

--
Dearic

Dwarven Overlord on E'ci


Lance Berg

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Jul 17, 2003, 11:53:17 PM7/17/03
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Mclan99 wrote:

> >Newbie
> >
> >When I was your age there -was- no breeze, we had to get from 1 to 29 without
> >a
> >single taste of caffeine, I remember when Kunark came out...
>
> Holy Wha! I didn't realize there was no Breeze/Clarity in the Pre Kunark days!
> I've been playing for a long time, but apparently not quite as long as you...
> :o)
>

There was clarity (although the number of enchanters so high level they could cast
it wasn't all that high) but no Breeze, Breeze is a Kunark only spell, but unlike
similar spells in later supplements it could be bought from a vendor in FV (or
perhaps OT?) and then sold... so people who bought ROK and got it running during
the couple weeks after release ended up making their guild's happy by importing the
spell, or making a small fortune by selling it to every chanter in Oasis/NRo/WC

There was similar but much more muted excitement about some of the other vendor
buyable ROK spells... but a mana regen spell castable at level 16, that was HOT.

Splendid, 7 mage, Firiona Vie


Lance Berg

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Jul 17, 2003, 11:55:37 PM7/17/03
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Graeme Faelban wrote:

>
> >>But while we're on the subject of 'When I was your age' EQ style, does
> >>anyone have any others?
> >
> > Dammit! You had druids and wizards to port you around? Why back in
> > my day, there weren't any that were high enough level to even *know*
> > the spell. Hell, we walked everywhere we wanted to go, and we were
> > proud when we got there.
> >

> Walk? You got to walk? .....

Had to, cause we didn't know that there were no penalties for engaging Run
mode... remember, it was so long ago that when you logged in you were in
walk mode and only started running if you manually activated it.

brian

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Jul 18, 2003, 2:40:17 AM7/18/03
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dd...@houston.rr.com (Dan Day) wrote in message news:<3f1916cc....@news-server.houston.rr.com>...


My 54 Cleric was wearing mostly Bronze into his 40s. He still has a
few pieces of FS Plate. 190 Wis. KEI dropped about 2 months ago and I
haven't bothered to refresh it.

My 54 Enchanter was "twinked" with a full set of Raw Silk. He's still
wearing several pieces of it.

b.

Graeme Faelban

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mcl...@aol.comnospam (Mclan99) wrote in
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>>Why back in
>>> my day, there weren't any that were high enough level to even *know*
>>> the spell. Hell, we walked everywhere we wanted to go, and we were
>>> proud when we got there.
>
>>Walk? You got to walk? .....
>
> LOL! Yup, and it was up hill, both ways... and we only had one pair
> of tattered boots to last us the whole year... Snow up to our
> eyeballs... (well ok, if you were born in Halas anyway) and dangerous
> critters around every corner...
>
> I'm loving where this thread is going! :o) I see I'm not the only
> one who had to grow up listening to 'Joshua Stories' as my family
> called them... hehe My Dad actually used to pull that whole "I had
> to walk 5 miles to school, each way... blah blah" until such time that

Well, actually, it was more a Monty Python reference.

Graeme Faelban

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Jul 18, 2003, 9:05:46 AM7/18/03
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Lance Berg <emp...@dejazzd.com> wrote in
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That was still the case in late 2000 when I started playing. You could
set a flag in your ini file to start in run mode though as I recall, or
perhaps that was added later, not sure.

Mclan99

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Jul 18, 2003, 9:09:47 AM7/18/03
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>
>Well, actually, it was more a Monty Python reference.

LOL I totally missed it... and I call myself a Python fan.

Color me embarrassed... :o)

Archerbear

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:12:57 AM7/18/03
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"brian" <mcbr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My baby-twink cleric has a full set of the old quested cleric armor. Really
gotta dust him off and play him one of these days. Was a lot of fun to do
the quest, though. Damned log in Kithicor...


kaev

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Jul 18, 2003, 11:00:47 AM7/18/03
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Lance Berg wrote:

Do you remember what it was like when they introduced raw silk?
Suddenly people weere paying the princely sum of 5 gold for spider
silks (soon upped to 1pp by higher levels who just wanted to get
tailoring skill-ups), and every low level Monk and INT caster in
game turned yellow (except for those evil twinkers wearing their
FBR's, heh).

kaev

kaev

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Jul 18, 2003, 11:49:49 AM7/18/03
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Dan Day wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:57:20 GMT, Lance Berg <emp...@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
>>My first mage wore Raw Silk armor he'd made himself all the way up to when I
>>stopped playing him at level 28.
>>
>
> My Paladin (still my main character) wore full Bronze plate armor
> for over a dozen levels, until I quested a full set of Armor of Ro
> in his early 30's.
>
> Armor of Ro was great stuff then, and although the quests were
> hard at that level, they were fair and a huge amount of fun -- I
> still think that's one of the best examples of a well designed quest.


Really? You thought it was fun spending days in Erud's Crossing
camping the damned boat in hopes that not only would a Killer
Shark follow it in, but that you'd be able to kill it and it
would actually drop the quest bit? Oh, and then do it again
since you need two? You thought it was fun that a Paladin of
"valor" (M. Marr) or "love" (E. Marr) or "nature" (Tunare)
should be sent off to slaughter faeries who were just minding
their own business deep in LFay? You thought it was fun that
most of the drops, and the rewards themselves, were droppables
from outdoor zones scatterred all over Norrath making Ro armor
and its ingredients second only to Temple of Ro Cleric armor as
a source of cash for Druids who didn't feel like joining the KS
fest in Rathe Mountains? I thought, and still think, that those
quests sucked even worse than the brilliant idea of sending
Paladins off to murder a Paladin defending his people against a
plague of undead in order to steal his sword.


kaev

Dan Harmon

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Jul 18, 2003, 5:47:43 PM7/18/03
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"the wharf rat" <wr...@io.com> wrote in message
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>
> How do I get to Freeport?

PRACTICE!

Oh...sorry...wrong joke...ignore me.


the wharf rat

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Jul 20, 2003, 12:17:40 AM7/20/03
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In article <Xns93BB724133C2Bri...@130.133.1.4>,

Graeme Faelban <Richar...@netscape.net> wrote:
>You take the other boat, not the one that takes you to Timorous Deep.

Thanks, everybody, for all the help on this. I may get that planes
expansion so I cna travel easily. Hmmm, it's not sold seperatley, wonder
what happens if I try to install "full version with planes" on top
of "full version with other stuff" ? Reckon we'll see :-)

the wharf rat

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Jul 20, 2003, 12:29:55 AM7/20/03
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OK, so I wander into crushbone to smite some orcs, and end up
near the slave pits. AFAIK there's never anything much here, just, well,
slaves, and slavers, which were my intended targets. So I get there and
there's like 6 or 8 people sitting around just outside detection range of the
orcs. I go over and kill one, but the _players_ get madder than the orc
did! "It's camped!!! Get lost!!!"

I argued a bit, along the lines of "My 12 bucks is just as good as
yours and _you're_ not killing them" but decided not to buck an (unwritten
rule? bullshit group more? whatever) so I left.

What's the deal on camping? I understand waiting for a rare
monster but hording ordinary old green orcs?

Terry Collins

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...re arrange....


> What's the deal on camping? I understand waiting for a rare
> monster but hording ordinary old green orcs?

They may have been green to you, but not to them. I am seeing lower and
lower level groups invading CB these days. Lets face it, until you get
to level 10, corpse recovery is not a problem, but you get great
experience.

The major problem is that these group don't have the continual fire
power to continually kill the mobs and have to take significant Medd
time outs and/or generally fart around wasting time.


The rule of camping as I understand it is "first in-best dressed" until
your group dies/flees, then it is open slather again. Not a lot of
people like this last bit, but it is the only fair way (hold your place
or loose it).


> OK, so I wander into crushbone to smite some orcs, and end up
> near the slave pits. AFAIK there's never anything much here, just, well,
> slaves, and slavers, which were my intended targets. So I get there and
> there's like 6 or 8 people sitting around just outside detection range of the
> orcs. I go over and kill one, but the _players_ get madder than the orc
> did! "It's camped!!! Get lost!!!"

In this case and place, I'd ask why they were not killing. If they were
up for a while, then I would ignore their complaints. CB is a rather
quick respawn anyway. If you camp, then you kill, you don't hatch/horde
it.


<flamebait>
Frankly, you have little to lose (sp?).
Maybe your guild might be anal retentive and turf you if a complaint is
lodged?
Unless you are in an "uberguild", there is always another useless guild
around the corner.[1]

Or worse, {:-) you go on the "ignore" list of someone who would never
help you anyway.

</flamebait>


>
> I argued a bit, along the lines of "My 12 bucks is just as good as
> yours and _you're_ not killing them" but decided not to buck an (unwritten
> rule? bullshit group more? whatever) so I left.

People who get abusinve in the game are not worth being in the good
books of anyway. There are so many others to help before them.


--
Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www:
http://www.woa.com.au
Wombat Outdoor Adventures <Bicycles, Computers, GIS, Printing,
Publishing>

"People without trees are like fish without clean water"

sugarman

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Jul 20, 2003, 4:23:28 AM7/20/03
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Wait til Aug 18 if you need 2 or more expansions. THe new Evolutions
boxed set will probably work out cheaper. It's due on Aug 18.

--sugarman--

dstep

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Jul 20, 2003, 8:02:25 AM7/20/03
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:29:55 -0500, wr...@io.com (the wharf rat) wrote:

>
> OK, so I wander into crushbone to smite some orcs, and end up
>near the slave pits. AFAIK there's never anything much here, just, well,
>slaves, and slavers, which were my intended targets. So I get there and
>there's like 6 or 8 people sitting around just outside detection range of the
>orcs. I go over and kill one, but the _players_ get madder than the orc
>did! "It's camped!!! Get lost!!!"

I would have said, if you are not here you are not camping them. Then
proceeded to kill them.


> I argued a bit, along the lines of "My 12 bucks is just as good as
>yours and _you're_ not killing them" but decided not to buck an (unwritten
>rule? bullshit group more? whatever) so I left.

Nope, there is no such rule. There is no rule at all by SOE, except
not taking an ALREADY engaged mob. Players only have loose rules if
someone is obviously camping something.


> What's the deal on camping? I understand waiting for a rare
>monster but hording ordinary old green orcs?

Just don't let them. It is the only way they will learn. You can't
claim every spawn in an area, which is not even within your focus of
control.

dstephenatcoxdotnet
( using the @ and . for email )

Tim Smith

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Jul 20, 2003, 7:07:21 PM7/20/03
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In article <20030717133839...@mb-m13.aol.com>, Mclan99 wrote:
> from one end of Antonica to the other and then take the boats... (And for
> the record... that boat from BB to FP is indeed a LONG ride... I had
> enough time to get on the boat in game, then in r/l get up, drive to the
> store, do a bit of shopping, come home and I STILL had not zoned into
> Freeport... hehe Ok, so the store is less than a minutes drive from my
> house and all I had to get were smokes and some snacks, but still...)

Then there's the long wait for the boat to arrive in the first place so you
can get on. Here's a trick: levitate and stand off the end of the dock.
The boat will then pick you up when it runs over you, so you don't have to
be there to get on.

...


> 'When I was your age', we didn't have KEI, we had to make due with Breeze
> and Clarity and we were damned happy to get those... (ok, so this is less
> applicable since they fixed the 'bug' allowing lowbies to get KEI but
> still... LOL)

'When I was your age', we didn't have Breeze. That came in with Kunark.

--
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--Tim Smith

Tim Smith

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Jul 20, 2003, 7:13:06 PM7/20/03
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In article <20030717142017...@mb-m13.aol.com>, Mclan99 wrote:
> Player: So the zone is a person?
>
> Me: Um... No. Najena is the only NPC that I'm aware of that has an
> entire zoned named for her though.

Sleeper's Tomb. Greig's End. Mistmoor. Cazic Thule (although he's not in
the zone named after him). Trakanon's Teeth (although, like Cazic, he's not
in the zone named after him).

Frank E

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Jul 21, 2003, 12:58:01 PM7/21/03
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:32:30 GMT, dd...@houston.rr.com (Dan Day) wrote:

>>Me: Um... No. Najena is the only NPC that I'm aware of that has an entire
>>zoned named for her though.

Cryptkeeper Nadox

Rgds, Frank

Matt Collins

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Jul 22, 2003, 8:00:07 AM7/22/03
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29.99 for the evolutions set. Good price.
33.00 for the shipping. Hmmm.

Plus whatever import tax they decide I have to pay.

Oh well.

Matt

-martin

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Jul 22, 2003, 8:24:03 AM7/22/03
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"Matt Collins" <ma...@clues.com> wrote in message
news:slrnbhq9q7...@sherlock.clues.com...

> >Wait til Aug 18 if you need 2 or more expansions. THe new Evolutions
> >boxed set will probably work out cheaper. It's due on Aug 18.
>
> 29.99 for the evolutions set. Good price.
> 33.00 for the shipping. Hmmm.
>
> Plus whatever import tax they decide I have to pay.
>
> Oh well.

Is it online only, or gonna hit retailers for the same price?

Im going to be in the US during this time period, so if somebody UK based
wants it, and will sort me out for the UK postal fees, lemme know. Icq:
161876821

-martin


Terry Collins

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Jul 22, 2003, 10:29:08 AM7/22/03
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Matt Collins wrote:

> 29.99 for the evolutions set. Good price.
> 33.00 for the shipping. Hmmm.

Where to?

Ray Rocker

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Jul 27, 2003, 1:22:17 PM7/27/03
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In article <FUOdnbfoMNa...@speakeasy.net>,

Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>In article <20030717142017...@mb-m13.aol.com>, Mclan99 wrote:
>> Player: So the zone is a person?
>>
>> Me: Um... No. Najena is the only NPC that I'm aware of that has an
>> entire zoned named for her though.
>
>Sleeper's Tomb. Greig's End. Mistmoor. Cazic Thule (although he's not in
>the zone named after him). Trakanon's Teeth (although, like Cazic, he's not
>in the zone named after him).

Velketor the Sorceror shouts, "hey don't forget about me!"

--
Ray Rocker
roc...@datasync.com

John Muir

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Jul 27, 2003, 6:33:05 PM7/27/03
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On 27 Jul 2003 12:22:17 -0500, roc...@datasync.com (Ray Rocker)
wrote:

>>> Me: Um... No. Najena is the only NPC that I'm aware of that has an
>>> entire zoned named for her though.
>>
>>Sleeper's Tomb. Greig's End. Mistmoor. Cazic Thule (although he's not in
>>the zone named after him). Trakanon's Teeth (although, like Cazic, he's not
>>in the zone named after him).
>
>Velketor the Sorceror shouts, "hey don't forget about me!"

In fact he sometimes comes to the zoneline just to remind folks he's
around.

--
Hunter Schadenfreude
Forest Stalker
Bristlebane server

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