I traded Lenny in.
Annie Benson-Lennaman
Well, sorta. Lenny has considered a warrior to be his main for over
a year now, on a couple of different servers. He liked that he just
mindlessly walked up to stuff and started whaling (sp?) on it. Easy,
neat and simple.
But, there was a hitch developing. His 46th level ogre warrior on
FV was the highest character he had ever had, but he was getting less
and less happy with how it was going. He saw that a variety of other
tank like classes could easily take agro from him, even if they were
younger than he, and there wasn't a damned thing he could do about it.
Also, he had been playing with a few of the testbuff characters he has
on Test sever. He found himself enjoying the additional abilities that
his Beastlord and Shadowknight had. A month or so ago, he told me that
if he had to it over again, his main would be a BL or SK.
This weekend, we both dinged 46, and entered the Plane of
Tranquility for the first time. We also went to the Plane of Justice,
just to look around, not to hunt. It felt a bit odd to both of us. Our
first planar guild raid, to air, was due this coming Saturday, and we
were interested in the adventure. But it did drive it home to us... If
he continued to develop Lenny the warrior past this point, there was a
very real chance he always be stuck with a main that he found less and
less fun to play. He spoke often saying things like if knew then what
he knew now, he would not be the class that he is. He wanted to be
something different.
I was all in favor of him rerolling. I could tell he was staying a
warrior out of a sense of duty, rather than fun. I encouraged him to
reroll. He had several arguments against it lined up. "It would take
too long to level back to the point where I am now, where I've worked so
hard to get". I countered that with my being dedicated to PL'ing him,
we could get him there in less than three weeks if we really wanted to.
"I would have to max out all my skills again." Yep. Those will take
care of themselves, you know how to max out your skills. "Lots of
people know me already here." You're not going anywheres. You're still
role-playing the exact same character, except that he's decided that
since his wife and daughter know magic, it might be fun to know some
too. He was silent for a second, then started saying the other things
he was thinking of "WEll, with a SK I would get snare, dots, a pet.
Better ways to get agro... and Harmtouch is fun!" He started to give
more and more reasons why he wanted to be something other than a
warrior. Then he asked me... "Do you want me to do this?"
I know that the pc answer would have been to say "I want you to do
whatever will make you happiest, and I will support you either way".
But I also knew that the answer he really wanted from me was a simple
"Yes, I do. Give me your gear and reroll right now.". Which is what I
said. I fully expect that some people out there will think to
themselves "I bet that's what she always thinks when she nags him into
doing something." There's really no effect way for me to counter that
thought, other than to point out that we're been together for over 18
years, and I believe I have a pretty good idea of what goes on in his
head. Anyways, this gives him an out. If he regrets the decision, he
can always rationalize that "I made him do it".
This was Tuesday night. It felt a bit weird to see him hit delete on
Lenny, a character he had worked so hard on. I know that this is just a
fictional character, and that my husband really wasn't going anywhere,
but it really felt like I was losing him in some sense. I urged him to
hurry up and dump his stats on his new ogre shadowknight and JUST HURRY
so that no one could create a character and "steal" his name. He dumped
every spare point into stamina, and typed in the name "Lenny". We were
both a bit relieved when it was accepted. He later told me that if it
hadn't been, he would have petitioned. Well, I don't know what good
that would have done, and if he lost his name, I would be hearing about
it for a while. Once in the game, he picked his old face, then put on
the vast majority of his old armor. One thing he really wanted to do
was dye himself black, which he felt was essential for a SK. He decided
on dark grey, so the details on his armor weren't lost, and I have to
say he looks very nice indeed (before he was dyed a dark red, a color he
felt was important for a warrior to be). He matched me better now, I
think, because I am also dyed dark grey, and have grey hair too, which
is obviously a good choice when riding around on a bright green
drogmar. Style wise, we are too cool for school.
So, is a SK/Cleric combo as viable as a War/Cleric? And are SK's
really more attractive in the higher end game as we believe? Our guild
leader seemed a bit bummed that the guild's highest level warrior
rerolled, but since we have only been in the guild a week, I can't say
that I overly care what he thinks. His main point seemed to be that
"Raids need warriors". I countered "Well, it might need one."
Anyways, the vast majority of Lenny's time is not spent on raids, but
rather on duoing with me.
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"Annie Benson-Lennaman" <annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
>
>
> So, is a SK/Cleric combo as viable as a War/Cleric?
Yes, it is. The only thing you'll lose is a little mana efficiency on
Complete Heal, which you'll probably make back in aggro controlled healing.
> And are SK's
> really more attractive in the higher end game as we believe? Our guild
> leader seemed a bit bummed that the guild's highest level warrior
> rerolled, but since we have only been in the guild a week, I can't say
> that I overly care what he thinks. His main point seemed to be that
> "Raids need warriors". I countered "Well, it might need one."
> Anyways, the vast majority of Lenny's time is not spent on raids, but
> rather on duoing with me.
Well, yes and no. In a single group situation, a shadowknight is as
attractive as a warrior. Some would argue more attractive.
The last holdout of warrior power is raids. For what it sounds like
you're doing... planar raid armor farms, the odd epic fight, a shadow knight
or paladin can tank it every bit as well as a warrior could. Maybe better.
The only place warriors really shine anymore is where you're fighting with
your entire raid vs. one single very hard mob. In those situations, due to
/discipline defensive, a warrior can take the damage for that fight much
better. Allowing your raid to kill the mob at a much earlier time (either
level wise or equipment wise) than you otherwise would.
More than ever before, warriors have become a one trick pony. Raid tanking
big mobs.
Since returning to playing myself, I've become more and more discouraged
with the current state of warriors in the game. (I'll spare you the details,
unless someone really wants to hear it). Luckily I had gotten my rogue up
to a moderately high level, and after buying her a new weapon, I've had a
lot of fun playing her. I've probably played her twice as much as Dearic in
the last week. Likely I'll continue to do that, and just pull him out if I
want to raid something nasty for some reason.
--
Dearic
Dwarven Overlord on E'ci
Empty
news:5Gvcb.9715$ai7....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
> Well, yes and no. In a single group situation, a shadowknight is as
> attractive as a warrior. Some would argue more attractive.
I would definitely argue that.
SKs hold aggro like noones business- Better yet, they can FD pull, and pull
with a snare which builds up a fair chunk of aggro right out of the gate.
Having Snare also frees a slot in a group- I always try to have a ranger SK
druid or necro in my groups for snare alone. If the MA can also snare, so
much the better.
These days I don't even look to a warrior for my first choice- their taunt
is dependant on gear, and most warriors are not geared as well as the many
twink pallies and SKs I see running around.
~Empty
--
'You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it
kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other
till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains,
children, it's blood... blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may
be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.'
Spike
droidsdonotpoop
"Annie Benson-Lennaman" <annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
If Lenny is starting from scratch then why not consider starting from
scratch yourself? He could start a Shadow Knight and you could start a
Shaman. Before the Monks were nerfed over a year ago, the Monk/Shaman combo
was the best in the game. As previously posted in this group, now the
Shadow Knight / Shaman is one of the best combos in the game. You will have
the Shadow Knight as MA and two pets as additional melees. He can fear
kite, Shaman can cripple, slow, haste, SOW, buff the hell out of the SK, DOT
and at higher levels use Cani.
James Grahame
"Annie Benson-Lennaman" <annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
Yes. Lenny won't have as many HPs, but he will end up putting out more
damage than he did before and he has some pretty nifty utility things he can
do. You can also do a lot more places as a duo with Lenny 2.0, as between
his feign/snare pulling and your Pacify line there's not going to be many
camps the two of you can't break. He's also better suited for indoor duty,
because of the Darkness line.
> And are SK's
> really more attractive in the higher end game as we believe?
What part of the "higher end game" do you mean? In raiding post-55, the
warrior is king. Without a warrior, frequently there is no raid. But SK's
have some nice things they bring to a raid, like feign/snare pulling before
your bards get the Fading Memories AA. They also make excellent offtanks
when a pile of mobs comes to camp, as they can pull one out of the crowd and
glue it to themselves. So while Lenny won't be the king of raids, he will
make a nice Prince of the Pull. (That's something he should practice
whenever he can, BTW - splitting mobs. A good puller will always find an
end-game job.)
> Anyways, the vast majority of Lenny's time is not spent on raids, but
> rather on duoing with me.
Where he should be! :-)
The most important point is this: is Lenny happy being a Shadow Knight?
If he is, then that's all there is to it.
James
Dan Harmon
"Annie Benson-Lennaman" <annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote in
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Hehe sorry, but I don't have time to read everything (though I enjoy your
stories).
If he's considering DELETING his warrior, bonk him up-side his head a few
times, and just cancel that account and buy a new CD. You've spent a lot of
time on him...it'd be a waste when, 6 months from now, he finds that he
wishes that he didn't delete the warrior after all.
Graeme Faelban
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Too late.
In the end, he should play whatever class he enjoys playing.
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On Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr>
Venerable Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons
Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 30 seasons
Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 25 seasons
Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons
On Test
Emgraeme, Gnome Wizard of 25 seasons
Annie Benson-Lennaman
droidsdonotpoop wrote:
> If Lenny is starting from scratch then why not consider starting from
> scratch yourself? He could start a Shadow Knight and you could start a
> Shaman. Before the Monks were nerfed over a year ago, the Monk/Shaman combo
> was the best in the game. As previously posted in this group, now the
> Shadow Knight / Shaman is one of the best combos in the game. You will have
> the Shadow Knight as MA and two pets as additional melees. He can fear
> kite, Shaman can cripple, slow, haste, SOW, buff the hell out of the SK, DOT
> and at higher levels use Cani.
I have played a shaman in the past, in fact my first real character,
the first one I got above level 4, was a shaman. I have lots of very
good memories of playing her. However, as I started grouping, I found
myself most enjoying my role as healer. I liked watching the health
bars while avoiding agro. I was very effective using my healing powers,
and not so good as using my offensive spells. But of course, if there
was a cleric in the group, then I wasn't the best or most logical main
healer. In those situations, I have to admit, I wasn't the most
effective at playing Tealeef. I liked being able to buff, but I found
it tedious to have SO many buffs to chose from. I liked throwing SoW on
people, but to be honest, often my SoW would bounce because the already
had better. By level 25, (this way before there was testbuff, of
course) I realized that maybe being a shaman wasn't the best choice for
me.
I played a ton of class/race combos after that, including a halfling
cleric I got to about 16 or so. And I liked playing her alot. When I
decided to move to FV pretty much for good (though I still stray from
time to time) I didn't have to thing to hard about what class I wanted
to be my main. Teapray is a fun character for me, and I have no desire
to reroll her. Well, not true... I sorta wish I had made her a dark
elf. But as for my Main class... this I have absolutely no desire to
change, even if doing so would result in a more effective duo. Plus
there are the roleplaying aspects. Lenny is playing the exact same
character... he just decided to go to magic school and learn some
spells, so he has to start his studies over from level one. But other
than that, he is the same. To become a shaman, I would have to kill off
the character of Teapray entirely, and have Lenny "remarry" a shaman
from some other race. I guess I could say that in a fit of jealous rage
my spirit took over that body of the shaman, but I don't really want to
roleplay the demonic possession from a cleric to a shaman.
Maybe a more vigorous answer than you were looking for, but there it
is.
Annie Benson-Lennaman
Graeme Faelban wrote:
>
> "Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote in
> news:tsmdnUZXdto...@giganews.com:
> > If he's considering DELETING his warrior, bonk him up-side his head a
> > few times, and just cancel that account and buy a new CD. You've
> > spent a lot of time on him...it'd be a waste when, 6 months from now,
> > he finds that he wishes that he didn't delete the warrior after all.
> >
>
> Too late.
>
> In the end, he should play whatever class he enjoys playing.
Indeed. And so far, we're doing good. I have good feelings about
the long term effects of this one. Anyways, I don't have a lot of faith
in the "You're put alot of effort into the character, so don't dare
reroll because you might regret it later!" theory. While it is
certainly true that it could work out that way, I think it is it truer
that if you are playing a character that you are finding less and less
enjoyable to play for whatever reason, then it isn't going to magically
get better as you sink more time into it. This is certainly true with
Lenny. We had this very discussion 3 months ago, and he decided that
because of the faction work he had done, he would rather stick with his
warrior. But he just got more and more unhappy the farther the
character progressed.
There is a danger of the "grass is always greener on the other side"
effect going on, of course, but I think this was a pretty well informed
decision.
Khosh
<annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Indeed. And so far, we're doing good. I have good feelings about
>the long term effects of this one. Anyways, I don't have a lot of faith
>in the "You're put alot of effort into the character, so don't dare
>reroll because you might regret it later!" theory.
I've rerolled a 44 BL and a 30 Wizard on FV. I currently have a 29
Mage and might reroll him if my mood swings again. Don't sweat it. As
long as you both are having fun levels mean nothing.
Koscha
> There is a danger of the "grass is always greener on the other side"
> effect going on, of course, but I think this was a pretty well informed
> decision.
/nod
I'm bad at the grass thing -- it's the main reason why I rereolled my monk
into a warrior; so far I haven't regretted it, and I'm enjoying the Iksar
warrior pike quests (just got my geozite tool and am now hunting froglok
escorts in the swamp, woo).
Glad to hear that Lenny's enjoying his new career, by the way. :)
--
Satrika (not Koscha the evil traitor, honest!) 8 Iksar Warrior, Firiona Vie
droidsdonotpoop
"Dan Harmon" <deha...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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After going through two periods of account inactivity I started up again
last April. Played full time from April to the end of August. Then, after
seeing how SOE did not give a rip about their veteran players I did the
unmentionable thing. I deleted my 63 Shadow Knight and 61 Monk. Trust me.
If you really want to disconnect from this addition then deleting your toons
is the best way. I tried SWG for awhile and then gave up after the first
free month was over. When I am ready to experience my next MMORPG it will
not be with SOE.
John Henders
> So, is a SK/Cleric combo as viable as a War/Cleric?
I think you'll do fine. As some people suggested, from a pure
powergaming point of view the shaman would be better, with the ability
to haste the sk and slow the mobs, and add some dps with dots and pet,
but you'll still do fine with the sk, as either of you can control
adds effectively, either with feign or pacify, the pet can add a tiny
bit extra dps, and later on the sk can actually supply you and himself
with a bit of free mana.
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Annie Benson-Lennaman
droidsdonotpoop wrote:
> After going through two periods of account inactivity I started up again
> last April. Played full time from April to the end of August. Then, after
> seeing how SOE did not give a rip about their veteran players I did the
> unmentionable thing. I deleted my 63 Shadow Knight and 61 Monk. Trust me.
> If you really want to disconnect from this addition then deleting your toons
> is the best way. I tried SWG for awhile and then gave up after the first
> free month was over. When I am ready to experience my next MMORPG it will
> not be with SOE.
I'm very happy for you. But what in this thread gave you any idea
that anyone here wanted to disconnect with this "addition"? (Running a
spell checker isn't enough. You have to also check to see if the word
it suggests is correct in the context you are using it.) Believe it or
not, it is possible to play this game for entertainment, without having
it adversely affect other areas of one's life. Please explain why I
should trust you or care one whit about anything you are prattling on
about?
Posts like this remind me of a reformed alcoholic wandering up to
people at a cocktail party and lecturing them on how it's possible to
kick the lure of demon rum if they just have a bit a strength of
character like _they_ did, never considering that some people are
capable of finding balance without any help.
Aruvqan
mandated by the US Navy [because he got caught doing something idiotic
while drunk, and the Navy will sentance people to AA, and restrict
driving priveleges...] and everybody at the stupid meeting spending more
time trying to force me to see that I was an alcoholic in full rampaging
denial then trying to help people who were there because they had a
drinking problem...i was inside because it was winter outside and i
didnt feel like waiting in a cold car. I *don't* drink, it interferes
with my pain meds and *i* would like to have my liver stay relatively
intact...The most I ever drink is a sip toasting at a wedding, or if
there is some in whatever food i order in a resteraunt or at a friends
house.
aru
and i think lenny did the right thing, and if he had been 65 it still
would have been the right thing for him=) Huzzas to him=)
Foxeye Vaeltaja
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Annie Benson-Lennaman wrote:
>
> Posts like this remind me of a reformed alcoholic wandering up to
> people at a cocktail party and lecturing them on how it's possible to
> kick the lure of demon rum if they just have a bit a strength of
> character like _they_ did, never considering that some people are
> capable of finding balance without any help.
Ooohh, I love the analogy Annie...thanks! :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Baroness Foxeye Vaeltaja
Misinformation Queen and
65 Half-Elven Forest Stalker of Xev
Epone 21 Dark Elf Cleric
"I was just saying that basically if I tried to tell everyone a tree is
a tree while they think it's a vegetable then they're going to think I'm
a fruit." - Zardak Zephiroth, Warder Brother on Xev
droidsdonotpoop
Nothing really. Originally you asked about a Cleric/Warrior or
Cleric/Shadow Knight combo. Then you indicated your friend was
contemplating deleting their character. All I was pointing out was if
someone was TRULLY tired of the game then deleting their character can be
the best thing to do. When the fun factor is gone then deleting in my
opinion is the best thing. Otherwise you will eventually forget all of the
reasons you quit and then come back thinking it will somehow be a better
experience. Insanity is coming back to the same thing and doing the same
thing expecting a different outcome.
And the point I was refering to about SOE screwing veteran players was with
the release of Evolutions. Many of us have been with EQ since the early
days and it was a slap in our face to give the whole farm away in one
package that is cheaper than the LOY oriiginally sold for. Maybe I am
pissed about how let down I was about SWG. But that is another issue.
So continue on in your jouneys in Norath. I was only pointing out that if a
character sucks to play and you no longer find an enjoyment in playing it
then deletion is a viable option.
Now for a flame: You only a 46 pissing baby cleric? Dam, come back when
you grow up.
Hehe.
Ed Jensen
: When I
: decided to move to FV pretty much for good
I miss the FV server. *sigh*
If they ever decide to turn off Trivial Loot Code, please, please
let me know. I'd love to return to my druid there... But TLC just
spoils too many quests...
-Ed
Annie Benson-Lennaman
droidsdonotpoop wrote:
> Nothing really. Originally you asked about a Cleric/Warrior or
> Cleric/Shadow Knight combo. Then you indicated your friend was
> contemplating deleting their character.
He is my friend, yes. But it is more accurate to refer to him as my
husband. Benefits and all that. I never said he wanted to delete his
character, I said he wanted to play a different class that he had more
fun playing with on a different server. Neither of us have any desire
or need to stop playing EQ. If I have to go into more details about how
FV is a roleplaying server, and Lenny can be the exact same character
even though he a different class, just let me know.
> All I was pointing out was if
> someone was TRULLY tired of the game then deleting their character can be
> the best thing to do. When the fun factor is gone then deleting in my
> opinion is the best thing. Otherwise you will eventually forget all of the
> reasons you quit and then come back thinking it will somehow be a better
> experience. Insanity is coming back to the same thing and doing the same
> thing expecting a different outcome.
Fair enough. But this has nothing to do with what I was talking
about. We've never stopped having fun with the game, we've just tried
different classes and found that some are more suited to our playing
style.
> And the point I was refering to about SOE screwing veteran players was with
> the release of Evolutions. Many of us have been with EQ since the early
> days and it was a slap in our face to give the whole farm away in one
> package that is cheaper than the LOY oriiginally sold for. Maybe I am
> pissed about how let down I was about SWG. But that is another issue.
Sure is. I disagree with you on this "slap in the face" thing, but
it doesn't really matter to what I was talking about.
> So continue on in your jouneys in Norath.
Thank you for permitting this.
> I was only pointing out that if a
> character sucks to play and you no longer find an enjoyment in playing it
> then deletion is a viable option.
Let me go back to the drinking analogy, stretched though it may be
getting. Say that for years I have enjoyed drinking a glass of sherry
after my supper. I don't drink enough to get drunk, it doesn't
negatively effect my life quality, I just find it enjoyable and
relaxing. Then I go to my friend's house for dinner. After we eat, she
offers me a glass of port. I'm not real familiar with port, but I am
open to new things, and accept. I find that I really like the port,
even more than I like the sherry. The next day, when I am in my house
after dinner, I find my glass of sherry to be lacking. I remember how
the port just simply tasted better to me. I've just bought a full
bottle of sherry, and it seems to be a shame, but I really would much
rather just get some port and drink that from now on instead. And to
make the analogy fit since I am on the FV server where only one
character at a time is possible on one account, let's say, I dunno, that
I live in a thimble and can only fit one bottle of wine in my house at a
time (I warned that this was getting stretched). So.... after some
thought I pour out the sherry and get some port. Now I am happier.
So I am discussing my change of habits with some friends, oh, let's
say at a wine tasting party where we like to discuss our preferences
(s-t-r-e-t-c-h). You come to me and tell me that since I felt motivated
to pour out my sherry, I might as well have had the fortitude to just
stop drinking altogether and pull my life together for a change, like
you have. Do you understand why we are all looking at you oddly?
> Now for a flame: You only a 46 pissing baby cleric? Dam, come back when
> you grow up.
Ok. I'll stop posting here until I am level 61 and have earned the
right to post here with the big boys. See you till then, everyone.
> Hehe.
Back at you.
Sean Kennedy
> droidsdonotpoop wrote:
>
>> Now for a flame: You only a 46 pissing baby cleric? Dam, come back
>> when you grow up.
>
> Ok. I'll stop posting here until I am level 61 and have earned the
> right to post here with the big boys. See you till then, everyone.
>
Let's see............ Annie, long time contributer, who's posts I seek
out (even in dumb threads) or some bozo I don't remember seeing before
the last week or so. Hmmmm, tough call.
Wait, no it's not - don't touch that dial Annie. And to the arrogant
little fuckwit you replied to, I don't really care where you are or what
you do - you've demonstrated that you're a complete of air as well as
bandwidth.
--
Arch Convoker Mairelon Snapbang of Lanys T'vyl
droidsdonotpoop
"Sean Kennedy" <x@n.n> wrote in message
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ROTFLMFAO. I have been in this forum for over three years. Sure, I change
my name ever so often. Humm, maybe it is hard for you to realize that noone
may be who they seem to be on the Internet. By the way, I was on this group
way back when the Sleeper was first awoken. Found out about it right here
on this newsgroup. As I recall that was back in the Spring of 2001. Hell,
I also remember when one of the hottest topics discussed here was how to
make PP. I remember when former players would give very detailed posts on
using baking to make decent PP. This was a year before Luclin even came
out. Before the Luclin ports, before the "do not have to look at freaking
spellbook while medding".
It is past your bedtime Spanky.
kaev
> "Sean Kennedy" <x@n.n> wrote in message
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>
>>Annie Benson-Lennaman <annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:3F74A56B...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com:
>>
>>>droidsdonotpoop wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Now for a flame: You only a 46 pissing baby cleric? Dam, come back
>>>>when you grow up.
>>>
>>> Ok. I'll stop posting here until I am level 61 and have earned the
>>>right to post here with the big boys. See you till then, everyone.
>>>
>>
>>Let's see............ Annie, long time contributer, who's posts I seek
>>out (even in dumb threads) or some bozo I don't remember seeing before
>>the last week or so. Hmmmm, tough call.
>>
>>Wait, no it's not - don't touch that dial Annie. And to the arrogant
>>little fuckwit you replied to, I don't really care where you are or what
>>you do - you've demonstrated that you're a complete of air as well as
>>bandwidth.
>>
>>--
>>Arch Convoker Mairelon Snapbang of Lanys T'vyl
>>
>>http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=701866
>
>
> ROTFLMFAO. I have been in this forum for over three years. Sure, I change
> my name ever so often.
<snip>
translation: "haha I'm a pathetic whiny creep who has to change his
handle regularly to escape the killfiles that deny me the exposure
I so desperately desire"
Please, don't go away mad, just go away.
kaev
Sean Kennedy
news:3f74e631$0$163$a186...@newsreader.visi.com:
Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what
made me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
Of course, I still don't have the knowledge of the high level game
they do - but I've been around forever, so I *must* be more uber
than them :-P
Annie Benson-Lennaman
droidsdonotpoop wrote:
>
> ROTFLMFAO. I have been in this forum for over three years. Sure, I change
> my name ever so often. Humm, maybe it is hard for you to realize that noone
> may be who they seem to be on the Internet. By the way, I was on this group
> way back when the Sleeper was first awoken. Found out about it right here
> on this newsgroup. As I recall that was back in the Spring of 2001. Hell,
> I also remember when one of the hottest topics discussed here was how to
> make PP. I remember when former players would give very detailed posts on
> using baking to make decent PP. This was a year before Luclin even came
> out. Before the Luclin ports, before the "do not have to look at freaking
> spellbook while medding".
Anyone else think its funny that he's defending against the
allegation that he's only been in this newsgroup for a couple of weeks,
not that he's a bozo and an arrogant little fuckwit, or being a complete
waste of air and bandwidth?
I will admit it, I've been feeling a bit cranky these last couple of
days. I would have been willing to admit that I might have reacted a bit
harshly to a bit of missed humor that didn't come across or something.
I'm feeling better about it now, though.
Thanks Sean.
Dennis Francis Heffernan
wrote:
|ROTFLMFAO. I have been in this forum for over three years. Sure, I change
|my name ever so often.
Changing your pseudo means losing any credibility you may have earned
under that name.
Of course, if I wrote like you, I'd change my psuedo frequently too.
|Humm, maybe it is hard for you to realize that noone
|may be who they seem to be on the Internet.
It's very easy for us to realise that. It's even easier for us to realise
that it is as least as likely that you are a relatively new poster who did ten
minute's research with Google as it is that you are actually a long-time
player and contributer to this group who likes changing names.
Dennis F. Heffernan EQ: Venture Fletcher(E'ci) heff...@comcast.net
#include <disclaim.h> ICQ:9154048 CompSci/Philosophy
"It's better some times if we don't get to touch our dreams."
-- Harry Chapin
John Epler
"droidsdonotpoop" <anyw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20030926205908.597$O...@news.newsreader.com...
> ROTFLMFAO. I have been in this forum for over three years. Sure, I
change
> my name ever so often. Humm, maybe it is hard for you to realize that
noone
> may be who they seem to be on the Internet. By the way, I was on this
group
> way back when the Sleeper was first awoken. Found out about it right here
> on this newsgroup. As I recall that was back in the Spring of 2001.
Hell,
> I also remember when one of the hottest topics discussed here was how to
> make PP. I remember when former players would give very detailed posts on
> using baking to make decent PP. This was a year before Luclin even came
> out. Before the Luclin ports, before the "do not have to look at freaking
> spellbook while medding".
>
> It is past your bedtime Spanky.
known Annie through the serverwide age channel for a little while now, and
she's one of the nicest people I've met in game. She may not be 'uber', but
she certainly does not lack in knowledge or (apparent) skill. I say
apparent, because I don't play on the same server as her.
As for the "you only a 46 pissing baby cleric" comment, let me reply with an
arrogant, holier-than-thou comment of my own. I've been playing since Beta
2; I've gotten several characters past 50, and even had a character at 50
when that was as high as the levels went. My current character is a 63
(almost 64) Enchanter, in an upper-end medium raiding guild. And you know
what? Level means absolutely jack shit in this game. I have met people in
their 40s who know more about this game then 20 level 65 players combined.
It's almost trivial to level once you get past the hump that begins at
around 40 and ends around the mid-50s. End result? You end up with idiots
who wipe groups because they don't know what the fuck they are doing.
I'm a bitter, cynical person. Ask anyone in the serverwide.age channel; I
get annoyed over trivial matters in my group, I tend to assume that people
can't play their classes until they're proven me otherwise. I also have a
somewhat arrogant attitude in my playing; I always take the path that "my
group will wipe unless I guide them down the road", unless I've either
played with you before or I know you through friends or guild rep. Yet even
I am willing to state that Annie (who I know as Tea) is a much more positive
contributor than you are, no matter what your former aliases were (unless
you were once Lokari, which I highly doubt, or jazz).
So kindly bugger off, will you? You're sucking up valuable bandwidth.
-Vsove Daishan,
63rd High Elf Phantasmist
<Sign of One>, Karana
Chimera
> This was Tuesday night. It felt a bit weird to see him hit delete on
> Lenny, a character he had worked so hard on. I know that this is just a
> fictional character, and that my husband really wasn't going anywhere,
> but it really felt like I was losing him in some sense. I urged him to
> hurry up and dump his stats on his new ogre shadowknight and JUST HURRY
> so that no one could create a character and "steal" his name. He dumped
> every spare point into stamina, and typed in the name "Lenny". We were
> both a bit relieved when it was accepted. He later told me that if it
> hadn't been, he would have petitioned. Well, I don't know what good
> that would have done, and if he lost his name, I would be hearing about
> it for a while. Once in the game, he picked his old face, then put on
> the vast majority of his old armor. One thing he really wanted to do
I started Camthiely as a cleric way back when (pre-SoL by a good
margin). I played her to 30th level but after passing 20th it seemed
every level was a Hell level. Could never get groups because they
filled the healer spot with a druid or shaman kind of thing. So I get
in groups that would cost me more xp from dying then I could make up in
a week. Sheesh.
But I was in an RP guild and had made several very good friends (and a
sister). What to do. In a flash of insight I decided that Camthiely
would have communed with Quellious about her "ill-fated" career choice
and through her power was changed into a magician. Then I did what
Lenny did, except I didn't reequip my old gear until 6th level.
Smart move Lenny.
Camthiely Carillon,
60th Erudite Arch Mage of Quellious, Morell-Thule. (Hiya Lance)
georg
>
> I'm a bitter, cynical person. Ask anyone in the serverwide.age channel; I
> get annoyed over trivial matters in my group, I tend to assume that people
> can't play their classes until they're proven me otherwise. I also have a
> somewhat arrogant attitude in my playing; I always take the path that "my
> group will wipe unless I guide them down the road", unless I've either
> played with you before or I know you through friends or guild rep. Yet even
> I am willing to state that Annie (who I know as Tea) is a much more positive
> contributor than you are, no matter what your former aliases were (unless
> you were once Lokari, which I highly doubt, or jazz).
>
Trust me, the fuckwit ain't Jazz. Jazz hasn't read this group in ages.
He currently doesn't even have EQ installed on his computer. If it
weren'the for the fact that an old friend of ours emailed him to show
him the birfday greetings he received on his old guild board, he
wouldn't have thought of this game for months.
Jazz & I have deleted SWG and cancelled our accounts. That game is truly
broken and fucked up beyond repair.
I keep saying I'm going to play EQ again, and Jazz babbles sometimes
about waiting for EQ2 to come out. But I think at the moment, we're
enjoying the real life thing, and actually LOOKING at each other and
SPEAKING instead of just typing back and forth.
I did log on last week. Maybe I'll log on this week. Who knows. I'd like
to see Tarre hit 65. But there's a lot of other shit around the house
I'd like to do too.
-georg
Mrs. Jazz
Tarre Solskin, 61 necro and other things.
John Epler
"georg" <theg...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b2ndb.15172$oa4....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Trust me, the fuckwit ain't Jazz.
"Lokari" comment.
-Vsove
Davian
>
> Jazz & I have deleted SWG and cancelled our accounts. That game is truly
> broken and fucked up beyond repair.
>
Well, I don't think it's all /that/ bad, but it does have some problems.
Thats another argument for another place though ; )
> I keep saying I'm going to play EQ again, and Jazz babbles sometimes
> about waiting for EQ2 to come out. But I think at the moment, we're
> enjoying the real life thing, and actually LOOKING at each other and
> SPEAKING instead of just typing back and forth.
>
But isn't that like... hard on the voice? ; )
--
Dearic
Dwarven Overlord on E'ci
Sean Kennedy
news:ONDdb.27465$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
Yeah, but it leaves your fingers free for other things..........
David Navarro
> Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
> James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
> from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
> group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what
> made me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
--
Venerable Hanrahan, Storm Warden (Human), Fennin Ro
The post above may contain opinions.
Graeme Faelban
@usenet.f9.net.uk:
> Strangely enough, Sean Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
>> James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
>> from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
>> group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what made
>> me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
>
> I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
> afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
> flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
> think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
>
Except for that one slip a few days back.
--
On Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr>
Venerable Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons
Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 30 seasons
Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 25 seasons
Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons
On Test
Emgraeme, Gnome Wizard of 25 seasons
Richard Lawson
> Strangely enough, Sean Kennedy wrote:
>
> > Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
> > James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
> > from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
> > group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what
> > made me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
>
> I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
> afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
> flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
> think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
That's actually the exact reason why I post under my real name, too. Not
because I'm really much of a flame hound - although I can get my dander up
from time to time. But I've seen *so* many people become *so* nasty and
abusive simply because the Internet gives them a measure of anonymity. I
*don't* want that to happen to me, so I've made certain to hide nothing
about myself - I want to make sure that it's my own good name I'm dragging
in the mud every time I feel the urge to flame away. =)
> Venerable Hanrahan, Storm Warden (Human), Fennin Ro
--
-Richard
Monual Lifegiver
Archon of Rodcet Nife
Silent Tempest
Marrtuk
Cavalier of Mithaniel Marr
Drinal server
David Navarro
> David Navarro <da...@alcaudon.com> wrote in news:
> 20030929213330420+0100 @usenet.f9.net.uk:
>
>> Strangely enough, Sean Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
>>> James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
>>> from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
>>> group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what
>>> made me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
>>
>> I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
>> afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
>> flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
>> think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
>>
>
> Except for that one slip a few days back.
That was definitely a slip of the finger, not of judgement; I had
already decided not to post that... I discard a good ten or twenty
percent of the replies I write.
--
Venerable Hanrahan, Storm Warden (Human), Fennin Ro
The post above may contain information, uninformation
and disinformation in variable amounts.
Sean Kennedy
> Strangely enough, Sean Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
>> James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
>> from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
>> group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what
>> made me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
>
> I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
> afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
> flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
> think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
>
The earliest post of mine I can find is Mar 30, 1999.
My screen name was the same as my isp account name (Orang).
I found the post by searching for my first character's name
(Tindayen).
I didn't change my name to hide anything, it's just that
I had problems with Teleport and switched ISP's (then got
DSL and switched again), plus I've used several computers
with a variety of news software - I don't always enter it
the exact same way :-P
Of note - My post was in response to a post by Dennis, I'd forgotten
he was around that long.
Jekke, Just Jekke
wrote:
>I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
>afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
>flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
>think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
OMG! I remember you.
You were an ass.
Of course, so was I. I might still be.
--Jekke
=====================
Playing on Torvonilous
Venerable Sheava Ebonrezzor (Dark Elf Cleric, 65)
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=392441
Veteran Moulin Khmer (Dark Elf Rogue, 65)
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=87681
Qiin Dred (Iksar Necromancer, 55)
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=717977
Graeme Faelban
@usenet.f9.net.uk:
> Strangely enough, Graeme Faelban wrote:
>> David Navarro <da...@alcaudon.com> wrote in news:
>> 20030929213330420+0100 @usenet.f9.net.uk:
>>
>>> Strangely enough, Sean Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lol. Hey, if being here for so long makes you uber, then I got
>>>> James and Martin beat. The only name still around that I remember
>>>> from when I started reading is Biz. (BTW - I started reading the
>>>> group before release, and the things said about EQ in it are what
>>>> made me decide to buy it - the day after release.)
>>>
>>> I used to post here around the release date and for a few months
>>> afterwards, under the handle "Shrike". I was an abrasive little
>>> flamehound back then... I find that using my real name now makes me
>>> think twice about what I post, which is generally a good thing.
>>>
>>
>> Except for that one slip a few days back.
>
> That was definitely a slip of the finger, not of judgement; I had
> already decided not to post that... I discard a good ten or twenty
> percent of the replies I write.
>
Yeah, I do the same.
Dennis Francis Heffernan
|Of note - My post was in response to a post by Dennis, I'd forgotten
|he was around that long.
I have always been here....
Sean Kennedy
news:r6pjnvkgvgfb9bhur...@4ax.com:
/bow
You are eternal :)
Lenny the Ogre
>On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:16:27 GMT, Annie Benson-Lennaman
><annie...@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Indeed. And so far, we're doing good. I have good feelings about
>>the long term effects of this one. Anyways, I don't have a lot of faith
>>in the "You're put alot of effort into the character, so don't dare
>>reroll because you might regret it later!" theory.
>
>I've rerolled a 44 BL and a 30 Wizard on FV. I currently have a 29
>Mage and might reroll him if my mood swings again. Don't sweat it. As
>long as you both are having fun levels mean nothing.
Truth is the hard part was the only citys that did not have free run
of Barb city frog and lizard (NOTE hafling city was a problem with
clierc Guild in the way of going in.)
lenny at time of re-roll can train in dwarf Gnome and wood elf citys
show me another oger that was trainable by the war guild leader of the
Dwarf city.
54 day play time just trying to make myself liked by good citys (may
even have been the first Ogre on FV to go into the tree elf city.
was fun running round the tree elf city or hanging out in the high elf
city hell even knew all the speaks to master. for a ogre War that was
allso to be proud of
I miss lenny ogre but should have fun now with me ogre Shadow knight
Lenny
Lenny the Ogre
wrote:
>ROFL....Or the idioticness of me driving a friend to an AA meeting
>mandated by the US Navy [because he got caught doing something idiotic
>while drunk, and the Navy will sentance people to AA, and restrict
>driving priveleges...] and everybody at the stupid meeting spending more
>time trying to force me to see that I was an alcoholic in full rampaging
>denial then trying to help people who were there because they had a
>drinking problem...i was inside because it was winter outside and i
>
The one time the Navy sent me i got sent back because i told the i am
ALKY...so i was told with thinking like that there is no way i can be
a alky.....(ppppsss /em wisper I am a alky) so as I sit here drinking
my rum I will tell ya fast way out of the AA meeting is tell them you
are to start and that ends it.
STG1 Lenny (ret.)
Lenny the Ogre
there is a way around the Trivia Loot code now if you kill stuff in
rade not group the loot code is no longer a problem
lenny
Aruvqan
Although I will confess one evening after a guild meeting held by the
felwithe book, about 5 of us 50+ went and cleared/kept cleared crusbone
for about 45 minutes...the carnage was incredible, and all the lowers
there got to loot anything they wanted=) i thing we were responsible for
at least 5 or 6 completed newbie armor quests=)
More of a case of lets get the buggers now when THEY are helpless....grin
aru
Aruvqan
[and i dont think i have ever gotten the slightest buzz of my coq au
vin...]and a sip of a toast [hm, last one was a year ago November 20th,
a wedding...] and i am NOT going to knuckle under when it is not the truth.
Yup, If i were an early christian, i would be the toasty end of a
torture session because i *don't* go against honesty. i am not an
alcoholic, and I will not claim to be one to make some people happy and
leave me alone. Burn incense to the gods? Nope...
Not that AA [and its variants, weight, sex, drugs, kids of
alcoholics...] don't do good, but it des require that the person
involved recognize their probem and want to deal with it...as a
nondrinker, AA is about as useful to me as te@ts on my cat. At least on
my sheep i could make cheese...
aru
Lenny the Ogre wrote: