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Brian Owen

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Welcome,

Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of
Polished Bone Bracers. When I arrived I found two groups "camping" the Evil
Eyes they are found on. I make my way around the room and take up a spot
watching each side carefully. After medding to full mana I wait for a spawn
and immediately attack. It was a regular Evil Eye and was easily taken by
myself. The group who'd just lost their kill begins to start ranting about
Kill Stealing. I informed them that no spot is "camped" and I have full
right to the kill as they do. This led to a few hours of fun for myself.
Not only was I attacked their side, but the other as well. While I wasn't
getting the kills every time I was getting enough to satisfy myself and keep
me there. That includes the PBB I picked up off the normal Evil Eye.

This continues for some time until they bring in some high level friends
to try and take over. Problem with this is I only needed ONE cast to deal
enough damage to take the kill. In the middle of fighting a Gorge Minotaur
I saw a group option scroll by and figured this new person would like to
group and discuss the matter. Hitting F-10 to get back to the menu I hit
Follow and see two members in the group. I am still fighting the Minotaur
when I notice one member disband. After rooting the Minotaur I started
backing up and noticed immediately the spell being cast was a TELEPORT.
Loading... Please Wait. Not a bad trick at all I must say, but
unfortunately I was BOUND in the room and simply gated back. After
returning, I applauded the attempt and was admitted being surprised by the
tactic.

After coming back and taking a kill from a Lvl 28 Wiz who claimed it
couldn't be done I continued swapping back and forth picking up XP from time
to time. Now the GM's are about to get involved. I had petitioned some
abusive name calling, intentional training, attempting a trade during a
fight, and general harrassment. I was told by the GM that Kill Stealing
does not exist and that no spot can be taken by a group. Upon hearing this
I gladly continued my attack until we were all asked to sit together by the
two GMs on the server and discuss it openly. The GMs informed my dear
friends that NOTHING could be done about my actions and that I was totally
within my rights to attack the Evil Eyes. Shortly following this meeting I
continued as I always had and picked up one or two more kills before
deciding to camp out for the night.

I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know that I
will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my presence
be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or any
group.

Aelane
Lvl 21 Wiz
The Tribunal

bal...@my-deja.com

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Nothing like a solo wizard that needs friends. I heard a similar story
to this, but it ended with the asshole wizard getting charmed by an
Evil-eye then both the evil eye and its pet were dealt with!

I'm not saying what you were doing was against any rules, just saying
that you may get a name for yourself that you cant get rid of when you
need those same people helping you.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Devast

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Hehe way to go buddy! Wait til your level 35, find out you can't solo
very well anymore and start looking for a group. I know several people
who did exactly what you did. They got quite a name for themsleves to
the point that they had to roll up a new character or get heckled out of
EVERY SINGLE ZONE in the game. Sounds like that will be your kind of
fun.

I'm sure the people on Tribunal who read this newsgroup already have
your name jotted down and will be spreading the word. Enjoy!

> ... snip a KS bragging story (of course by a wizrd)... <


> Aelane
> Lvl 21 Wiz
> The Tribunal
>
>

Alasdair Allan

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote

> I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know that I
> will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my presence
> be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or any
> group.
>
> Aelane
> Lvl 21 Wiz
> The Tribunal

Oh, please, someone take a Chanter or Bard over there and show this
fuckstick what an idiot he is.

Wish I'd been there. Got a nice little trick for obnoxious KSers who try
and fight mobs which charm...

--
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x-st...@null.net | the basis of Communism
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Derek J. Ludwig

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Payback is a bitch and karma is going to bite you in the ass later MR. Lowbie
KS'er. 21 is not all that high and soon you will need to be grouping, believe
it or not your reputation is what is most important at higher levels. While I
see your point about no area being owned and such, you miss the point about
courtesy and asking to share or whatnot. Every zone has it unwritten rules that
are accepted by almost all players, I also notice you came from HH where KSing
is accepted at the orc area. That is the only kown place where your type of
actionsare tolerated in the game.

Brian Owen wrote:

Des Herriott

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:39:28 -0500, Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote:
> Welcome,
>
> Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of
> Polished Bone Bracers. When I arrived I found two groups "camping" the Evil
> Eyes they are found on. I make my way around the room and take up a spot
> watching each side carefully. After medding to full mana I wait for a spawn
> and immediately attack. It was a regular Evil Eye and was easily taken by

You didn't even bother to ask if you could share first?

Maybe you're not a kill stealer, but you're certainly not the type of
individual I'd care to associate with.

--
Des Herriott, Oracle Corporation UK Ltd.
dher...@uk.oracle.com
- speaking for myself, not my employer.

nospam

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I fear you are one of the few people that feel making larger groups angry
makes you happy. I do know that on my server KS is a serious offense.
I have personally seen them delt with by GMs. I truly wish you were on my
server I would show you what can be done to KSers.
Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> Welcome,
>
> Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of
> Polished Bone Bracers. When I arrived I found two groups "camping" the
Evil
> Eyes they are found on. I make my way around the room and take up a spot
> watching each side carefully. After medding to full mana I wait for a
spawn
> and immediately attack. It was a regular Evil Eye and was easily taken by

PhoneDude

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> I fear you are one of the few people that feel making
larger groups angry
> makes you happy. I do know that on my server KS is a
serious offense.
> I have personally seen them delt with by GMs. I truly
wish you were on my
> server I would show you what can be done to KSers.

From my viewpoint there is a difference between
kill-stealing and fighting for a spawn. While it may be
rude to barge into a camped area and attack spawning mobs it
is not kill-stealing. My definition if kill-stealing is
when a player attacks a mob that has already been engaged by
another player -- especially if the other player has gotten
in a hit before the second player engages.

Camp busting may be rude and obnoxious, but kill-stealing is
just plain intolerable.

Leandar
Cazic-Thule

Barrett

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What kind of idiot 28th level wizard could have a kill stolen from him by a
21st level wizard. Something about this story sounds definitely suspect.
Somehow I don't believe it's possible you stole a kill from a 28th level
wizard.

Brian Owen

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It's quite possible considering the target. The target was a normel Evil
Eye and not a Lord. In that case my DD does enough with a single strike to
take the kill. Hope this helps.

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Joe D

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Brian Owen <Back...@aol.com> wrote:
> [snip]

You have become better at Trolling! (147)

Joe D
--
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rak...@my-deja.com

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In article <87c3vt$2nc$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net>,


I had this same thing happen to my lvl 9 (at the time) Warrior. Me and
3 other Halflings were camping the orcs (which are ALWAYS camped..i
finally found an opening and was happy to play there.) After the first
round of orcs...a lvl 11 Druid Woodelf came along, "Can I join you?"
Well, I told him NICELY that we had some lvl 7s in group (and we DID!)
He said, "ok." Sat over by the tree...as we healed and waited for the
next spawn. Next spawn: I assumed he may have been helping us...but we
didn't get the exp...one 11 druid against: two lvl 7 Druids, lvl 8
Cleric, and a lvl 9 Warrior. I let him go thinking: It could be a
mistake. He goes after that battle: "Gee, thanx for weakenin' it for
me guys." He stole the 2nd orc too.


I /ted him...hoping he just DIDN'T understand: He said, "I asked if
you wanted to join me...at least you'd be making SOME experience." I
said, "We have some lvl 7s in group...they'd be making NO experience."
He goes on to say the exact same stuff as that 21 Wizard poster said:
"you can't own a spawn." I got ticked, and told him my 36 Enchanter
would be along soon and that he can talk to him about owning a spawn.
Then he said, "Yeah...my lvl 48 Pally...." I stopped there and said,
"Shut up, you pain in the ass...you're going on ignore." Plainly, this
jerk was having fun doing it: "Thanx for weakenin' it guys." Yeah, ok,
you aren't here to start trouble.


My Enchanter was on Faydwer and I considered it a waste of my time to
go there and KS him....I wouldn't gain exp, and i'd have to put up w/
an asshole all night...so I walked away. Now this druid will NEVER get
in a group w/ my Enchanter/Warrior...and when he's powerlvling in
Skarana when I walk thru, my 'chanter will laugh if he /t's me for
clarity. Matter of fact I may clarity everyone in that zone but him so
his chances are lower to be able to find anything.


The reason why GMs and Verant support the "Can't own a spawn issue" is
because basically, they can't police every spawn and every complaint.
So, opportunist like you (lvl 21 Wizard) can feel justified in your
"Not-Really-Kill-Stealing, Kill stealing."


So, are you proud that you muscled in and took a good item from them
when you stole it? Are you happy that they may have traveled a long
distance to be there...maybe for exp as much as the loot? Displacing
ppl there first is wrong. You know-- that simple rule as in: "I was
in line first to get to the teller...why are you coming in off the
street and getting serviced b4 me" kinda thing.


I can't wait until your wizard can't find a group...maybe you and my
Druid pal would like to team up then?

Rakadar, The Rules Must Be Re-Written, The Enchanter.

Barrett

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Then you didn't truly steal the kill, as you would have had to have hit it
first and that means it was YOUR kill. Hope this helps.


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Pin

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Sure its possible... The level 24 dd spell for wizards is a marginal upgrade
from 176 damage Force shock at level 20, to a 181 ice spell at level 24. the
differnce in the two is that the level 24 spell is resisted less because there
is no force element to it, and it is alot more mana effiecient.

So if he Ksed, its entirely possible that he got a full DD off with his spell
before the 28th wizard could get his off.. simply because the casting time on
the Force shock spell is shorter. And he may have his spells hotkeyed.. Its alot
faster to click on the mob and wack a keyboard buttun than to click on the mob
then click on the spell icon.

Barrett wrote:

> What kind of idiot 28th level wizard could have a kill stolen from him by a
> 21st level wizard. Something about this story sounds definitely suspect.
> Somehow I don't believe it's possible you stole a kill from a 28th level
> wizard.
>

> Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

> news:87c3vt$2nc$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...

Brian Owen

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Exactly. Spells are hotkeyed and F8 is used to target. What else do I
need? This eliminates the annoyance of people walking in front of me and
increases the ability to cast right away. Thanks for clearing that up.

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jfeyas

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What do EE's con at 21st level?

Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

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> It's quite possible considering the target. The target was a normel Evil
> Eye and not a Lord. In that case my DD does enough with a single strike
to
> take the kill. Hope this helps.
>
> Barrett <gai...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:87c7v7$9fd$1...@bob.news.rcn.net...

lsu...@hotmail.com

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Brian, you are just like me. Last night I camped the gate at Queynos
and SOW'ed as many people as I could. I wasn't going to let anyone
else SOW someone if I wanted to do it first. MY target MY sow.

I was there for several hours and the amazing thing was, no petitioned
me. There was this other group of guards there the whole time. They
didnt seem to mind what I was doing. They did however KS snakes and
rats that I had my eye on as they wandered up to the gate, but I didnt
feel like I should report them. They didnt talk to much and seemed a
freindly enough group of guys, so I let them go

I was being pretty blatant about it also. If I really felt like taking
over the gate, I buffed people too. I look forward to camping that
gate again tonight. We'll see what happens this time.

- Dorr -
Barbarian Shaman Baker - Quellios

Bill Peebles

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Although you were within the games rules, you'r actions leave much to be
desired. I'm fortunate not to play on that particular server.
Play nice, live long, behave like a member of humanity rather than the inhumane.

Brian Owen

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Evil Eyes have not conned less than Blue. Lords will range from Blue to
Yellow.

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Pin

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I wil advise you tho.. everyone here is correct in that reputation at higher
levels is the most important thing you will ever have; even more important than
an ice comet scroll.. The places that a wizard can solo effectively dry up very
quickly after the Beholder area.. The good news is that if you really wanted to,
you can make exp off of lord eyes until level 29 or 30, and get rich along the
way.. But if you need a group after that, and your reputaion precedes you; you
will be SOL for a while until people forget.

Brian Owen wrote:

> Exactly. Spells are hotkeyed and F8 is used to target. What else do I
> need? This eliminates the annoyance of people walking in front of me and
> increases the ability to cast right away. Thanks for clearing that up.
>
> Pin <rbi...@erols.com> wrote in message news:3899AC44...@erols.com...
> > Sure its possible... The level 24 dd spell for wizards is a marginal
> upgrade
> > from 176 damage Force shock at level 20, to a 181 ice spell at level 24.
> the
> > differnce in the two is that the level 24 spell is resisted less because
> there
> > is no force element to it, and it is alot more mana effiecient.
>
> > So if he Ksed, its entirely possible that he got a full DD off with his
> spell
> > before the 28th wizard could get his off.. simply because the casting time
> on
> > the Force shock spell is shorter. And he may have his spells hotkeyed..
> Its alot
> > faster to click on the mob and wack a keyboard buttun than to click on the
> mob
> > then click on the spell icon.
>
> > Barrett wrote:
> >

Bob Marley

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HAHA a lev 21 wiz boasting of KSing HAHAHAHA
There are so many people who could out damage a 21 wiz its not even
funny. I hope someone of even moderatly high lev goes to teach him a
lesson. HAHA what an idiot

On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:01:15 GMT, "Alasdair Allan"
<posth...@x-static.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote


>> I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know that I
>> will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my presence
>> be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or any
>> group.
>>
>> Aelane
>> Lvl 21 Wiz
>> The Tribunal
>

zi...@nb.sympatico.ca

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:52:32 -0500, "Barrett" <gai...@erols.com>
wrote:

>What kind of idiot 28th level wizard could have a kill stolen from him by a
>21st level wizard. Something about this story sounds definitely suspect.
>Somehow I don't believe it's possible you stole a kill from a 28th level
>wizard.
>
>

It can be done rather easily In some cases and if the 28 doesn't know
his cast times.
I assume (tell me if I am wrong) the mob in question is from lvl 17 to
19 hp 272 to 312.
I allso assume he is casting force shock at his level it would do 173
points of damage If it wasn't resisted. This would account for his
sparodic results. Force shock has a casting time of 2.8 very low so
will go off first doing more than half his kill. I only know this
because shaman friends of mine wanted pbb and were being kill stole
from on quellious last night. I was waiting for a spot in king in
naggies lair so I logged off and told them what there sitch was and
why they were losing ( level 42 pair loosing to a 28 they were miffed)

Tell me you rude ass SOB did I get it right in your case ( note the
preceding line to the original poster not the person i replied to)

Brian Owen

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You are correct. I am not sure of the hp range though. At one point I
dealt 173 dmg with Force Shock and then casted Shock of Lightning for a big
8dmg. The total 181 gave me enough on a higher con, but other than this you
are correct. And the casting time is lowering as my Specialize Evocation is
increasing. At least I believe so.

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Jeff

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Actually, its easier than you think. Many wizards suffer from an ego about
how much damage they can do with their newest DD.. If the previous circles
DD is enough to do half damage, then you can generally get it cast before
the wizard finishes casting his big DD. Then all he is acomplishing is to
finish it off for you.


"Barrett" <gai...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> What kind of idiot 28th level wizard could have a kill stolen from him by
a
> 21st level wizard. Something about this story sounds definitely suspect.
> Somehow I don't believe it's possible you stole a kill from a 28th level
> wizard.
>
>

> Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

> news:87c3vt$2nc$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...

Dan Harmon

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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GM/Guide approved or not, you're still an asshole.

Terry Wilcox

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I'm trying to come up a motto for people who play like that. So far my
favorite is "Live like a jerk, die like a jerk".

I just wish the jerks understood the motto. It would save me a lot of
explaining when they're yelling for help. I could just hotkey it.

Terry Wilcox


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> Although you were within the games rules, you'r actions leave much to be
> desired. I'm fortunate not to play on that particular server.
> Play nice, live long, behave like a member of humanity rather than the
inhumane.
>
> Brian Owen wrote:
>

Brian Owen

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Now that's just plain rude. But then again, I'm sure it fits you well.


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nospam

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Reason for me not posting my server is I wish to keep trash like you off of
it.

buc

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> Welcome,
>
> Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of
> Polished Bone Bracers . . .


Tsk Tsk Tsk. . . Bad move my friend. It's a very small EQ world out there
and you'll find later on that your reputation becomes the most important
part of your character. I've refused many people in my groups because they
had either screwed me in the past or one of my group members. Believe me -
in Norrath what goes around comes around - if you play the game long enough
you'll regret pulling crap like this.

Cheers

buc

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zi...@nb.sympatico.ca

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:42:41 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

>Now that's just plain rude. But then again, I'm sure it fits you well.


>
>
>Dan Harmon <deha...@email.com> wrote in message
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>>

>> Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

>> news:87c3vt$2nc$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...\
>>
>> GM/Guide approved or not, you're still an asshole.
>
>

Rude perhaps but right on the head you sir are a fuckwit in game. So
says Cyndzia Sangnoire future queen of norrath

Adar

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> Dan Harmon <deha...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:PQim4.422$MF.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > GM/Guide approved or not, you're still an asshole.

Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> Now that's just plain rude. But then again, I'm sure it fits you well.
>
>

Nah, it's just plain right.

I would also add 'Yet another clueless egotistical moron who thinks he's
better than others because his mommy pays 10 dollars a month', and maybe
'Yet another clueless egotistical moron whose character gets to retire at
30'...but that's just me.

Are you on E'ci by any chance? I'd love to get you put on the list...and our
list is *quite* effective.

Brudo (E'ci)
Loredaeron (E'ci)

Terry Henne

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If a mob has for example 300 hp, one only needs to get 151 damage to get the
kill. If two casters are standing side by side and one casts 160 dd that takes
1.5 sec casting time and the other launches a 300 dd that take 2 sec of casting
time, the quicker nuker is going to win.

Terry

Brian Owen wrote:

> It's quite possible considering the target. The target was a normel Evil
> Eye and not a Lord. In that case my DD does enough with a single strike to
> take the kill. Hope this helps.
>

Kelly South

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"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> Welcome,
>
> Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of
> Polished Bone Bracers. When I arrived I found two groups "camping" the
Evil
> Eyes they are found on. I make my way around the room and take up a spot
> watching each side carefully. After medding to full mana I wait for a
spawn
> and immediately attack. >

And you're proud of this? This attitude is gonna make you really unhappy at
higher levels. People remember this stuff, and not only that, there are a
lot of ways to make sure you learn to play nice and share :)


GHPOOBAH2

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I want to see this idiot try to get into a plane group or camp any type of
decent item.Making people mad is not cool,especially guild people who have lots
of friends.

Freek

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Oh no another newbie idiot. Some mobs that have few hitpoints
can easily be KS'ed from a low level guy. Why? A high level
Wiz spells usually have a longer casting time. A low level Wiz
can cast a faster lower damage spell on a mob with low hitpoints
and create more then half the damage.

So sometimes it is he who has the 'Faster Draw' then who can
do the most damage.

Don't you feel like an idiot now?

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George Ruof

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"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote:

> This continues for some time until they bring in some high level friends
>to try and take over. Problem with this is I only needed ONE cast to deal
>enough damage to take the kill. In the middle of fighting a Gorge Minotaur
>I saw a group option scroll by and figured this new person would like to
>group and discuss the matter. Hitting F-10 to get back to the menu I hit
>Follow and see two members in the group. I am still fighting the Minotaur
>when I notice one member disband. After rooting the Minotaur I started
>backing up and noticed immediately the spell being cast was a TELEPORT.
>Loading... Please Wait. Not a bad trick at all I must say, but
>unfortunately I was BOUND in the room and simply gated back. After
>returning, I applauded the attempt and was admitted being surprised by the
>tactic.

Amateurs. If it was me I would have had 2 casters in the group and you
would have been teleported and bound in Tox. :)


--
George Ruof
gr...@pacificnet.net

Aaron Michael Newton

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PhoneDude <fone...@gte.net> wrote:

: From my viewpoint there is a difference between
: kill-stealing and fighting for a spawn. While it may be
: rude to barge into a camped area and attack spawning mobs it

Agreed. I also subscribe to your differentiation between ksing and camp
crashing. If I am camping a spot and others show up I usually ask them to
group. even if they are too low level to share exp at least they will get
to share the loot, and there is less chance of dying.

If I /go/ to a spot that is already camped, I'll ask to join or share. If
refused I will _sometimes_ stay and fight for what I can get.

However, I will NEVER run up to a fight in progress and interrupt if they
don't need help. To me THAT is kill stealing.

-Aaron

--
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Brian Owen

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With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the
time comes. Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more trouble
for me than I do for them.

buc <b...@chicagonet.net> wrote in message
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>
> Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> > Welcome,
> >
> > Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of

Brian Owen

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Congrats! A thought myself when I quickly checked to see if I was still
grouped when I zoned.

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Brian Owen

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When the times my friend... when the time comes. These people were guild
member and they tried to call reinforcements in. It didn't help much.

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Brian Owen

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Actually I distinctly declare at the bottom:

Aelane
Lvl 21 Wiz
The Tribunal

Now who's not reading? And my mommy doesn't pay my $10/mo. I do. As for
the rest of you I can't say where you get your money.

Brian Owen

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Future Queen? Heaven forbid it cannot be. Name Calling... that's just to
childish.

Adar

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> With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
> worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the
> time comes.

Muahahahahahahaha...

Brian Owen

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That was never done here. These are fresh spawns open to anyone. Unlike HH
where it is very easy to pick off an Orc that is nearing half damage and
take the XP. The Evil Eyes are attacked at full health.

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Brian Owen

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If you're going to state such a request please identify what server you are
on. That would really help.

Thanks

<nospam> wrote in message news:s9j7ep...@corp.supernews.com...
> I fear you are one of the few people that feel making larger groups angry
> makes you happy. I do know that on my server KS is a serious offense.
> I have personally seen them delt with by GMs. I truly wish you were on my
> server I would show you what can be done to KSers.


zi...@nb.sympatico.ca

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:15:45 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

>With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no


>worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the

>time comes. Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more trouble
>for me than I do for them.
>

I am 40 now and still keep seeing the same people i saw at 20 and 30.
Unless the time you play at changes players are fairly static

Sartorii

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Hate this damn server patch!! Though I know its sometimes for the good. I
just hope I can get an hour of play before i go out tonight *sigh* This is
way I'm posting so much today... I don't know what "Trolling" is.. but if
its a serious of posting and making it appear that you are the most
knoledgeable (but can't spell) person in all areas.. I assure you I'm not.

But when it comes to twits liket the original poster here.. You WILL be
marked. Like a certain freak named Salladar on Quellious. Poor guy, let him
find the few that don't know him know and group. Because Solo + Wiz = only
with Speed + No good loot.

When I run into these type of losers, time allowing I will just let my group
let him have the camp, and if there is another group.. I'd confer with them.
Back when I was there at lvl 22 or some such, a lvl 30 Necro was doing the
same thing. We decided that since we could get no F**king kills.. we
wouldn't tank for him *it* and let him get his crap and leave. We just
waited for the occational Chasm or high gorge or an exp trickle.

Lo and Behold ! He comes running passed us /yelling as his *own* pet was
decimating him. We had a good laugh.. but I left him to that camp to him
when I had a guild member come tele us to NK to fight in SK.

Now that I know how painful dying at lvl 30 is..... served him right.


Oh we had such a good laugh.

Brian Owen

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I never start a fight I can't win. So, if I'm only at a quarter of mana I
will not cast on the Evil Eye. It's for this reason you won't see me
running passed you yelling for help. If I become charmed I'm open game and
everyone can cast away on me. Beware though... I always come back for more.

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Mason Barge

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Ve haf vays uff dealing mit dis. Just so you are warned. You were lucky you
got something as mild as a fraudulent teleport.

Of course, the most effective is a DoT, i.e. the little list people keep. Keep
this up and your wizard will never see 35. Ever. Period. The other players
are going to treat you the way people in real life probably already treat you,
and for the same reason.

Why don't you play a shadowknight or rogue so that at least you have some
roleplay satisfaction from being an asshole.

Oops, didn't mean to be rude.

Brian Owen

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What's wrong in playing a High-Elf Wizard on the evil side? Why should I be
forced into playing a SK or Rogue to see some roleplaying in my evil ways?
And are we playing the same game? EQ has NO roleplaying that I've seen.

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Jerry The Cow

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"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
> worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the
> time comes.

I don't recall anyone saying that this time would come. In fact,
as many have pointed out, it won't.

>Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more trouble
> for me than I do for them.

I don't have to. All I have to do is sit back and watch it happen.
And who said anything about a guild? Enjoy your next 10 levels
or so. They're your last.

-Manlaven

Dan Harmon

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
> worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the
> time comes. Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more trouble

> for me than I do for them.

Level 30+ players don't come & go nearly as much as levels 15-25.

You are an asshole, and if you don't stop being an asshole soon, you will
not be able to find any decent groups. Wizards have a hard enough time
grouping as it is. Being a wizard AND an ass is a very bad combination.

You are not mature enough for this game. Go away.

Dan Harmon

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> I never start a fight I can't win. So, if I'm only at a quarter of mana I
> will not cast on the Evil Eye. It's for this reason you won't see me
> running passed you yelling for help. If I become charmed I'm open game
and
> everyone can cast away on me. Beware though... I always come back for
more.

Ooooh, I'm very scared.

Tough-guy = boy
boy=immature.

Mason Barge

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>With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
>worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the
>time comes.

Not the ones who make it past 30. By 45 everyone knows each other. You have a
rude surprise in store, heehee.

> Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more trouble
>for me than I do for them.

No need, you will find them soon enough, tough guy.


"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me
some coffee."
- Abraham Lincoln

Mason Barge

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>I never start a fight I can't win.

You are so skillful!

> So, if I'm only at a quarter of mana I
>will not cast on the Evil Eye.

What an extraordinary accomplishment!

> It's for this reason you won't see me
>running passed you yelling for help.

Superior planning too!

>Beware though... I always come back for more.

We are fairly warned. A terrific sportsman on top of it all!

Brian Owen

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This reply is simply amusing. I'll clap my hands for this one.

Mason Barge <mason...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message

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Brian Owen

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Where in my posting does it say I've done this my characters entire life? I
merely started this yesterday and brought the results here. All of a sudden
people feel I am going to stay here until Lvl 30 at which time I'll find no
one around who wants to group. My posting say I came for a pair of PBBs and
when I have attained them I'll only be after XP. If, in that case, people
are there "camping" the spawn for them as well I may go own my way. I don't
suspect that will happen until I reach Lvl 22 or possibly Lvl 23, but even
then if I wanted to be troublesome it would be all that much easier.
Lighten up people. There's not a one of you who hasn't done a bad thing in
the game at some point. I just chose to do mine at Lvl 21.

Dan Harmon <deha...@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

> news:87ck5s$qv2$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...


> > With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
> > worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the

> > time comes. Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more


trouble
> > for me than I do for them.
>

> Level 30+ players don't come & go nearly as much as levels 15-25.
>
> You are an asshole, and if you don't stop being an asshole soon, you will
> not be able to find any decent groups. Wizards have a hard enough time
> grouping as it is. Being a wizard AND an ass is a very bad combination.
>

Brian Owen

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And even though it was a trade off of Evil Eyes when I attacked several Lord
I knew I wouldn't get the kill, but it was fascinating to watch the
reactions of people when I cast. I may get 4 for every 9 that spawn, and
with those I don't get I've done enough damage to help them out greatly. I
have friends by the way. Several in fact. And all of whom support my
actions and will be there in the higher levels.

<bal...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:87cs2g$ubo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Nothing like a solo wizard that needs friends. I heard a similar story
> to this, but it ended with the asshole wizard getting charmed by an
> Evil-eye then both the evil eye and its pet were dealt with!
>
> I'm not saying what you were doing was against any rules, just saying
> that you may get a name for yourself that you cant get rid of when you
> need those same people helping you.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Terry Wilcox

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"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> Where in my posting does it say I've done this my characters entire life?
I
> merely started this yesterday and brought the results here. All of a
sudden

So you just became an obnoxious EQ-jerk yesterday? Since you still don't
realize you're an EQ-jerk, don't you think it's possible you've been an
EQ-jerk all along and you jsut don't know it?

"Why don't jerks know they're jerks?"

Terry Wilcox


Brian Owen

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You think this is bad. Wait til you hear my prices... 10pp for a bind. Any
item sold for more than "normal" prices. Much much more...

Devast <dev...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Hehe way to go buddy! Wait til your level 35, find out you can't solo
> very well anymore and start looking for a group. I know several people
> who did exactly what you did. They got quite a name for themsleves to
> the point that they had to roll up a new character or get heckled out of
> EVERY SINGLE ZONE in the game. Sounds like that will be your kind of
> fun.
>
> I'm sure the people on Tribunal who read this newsgroup already have
> your name jotted down and will be spreading the word. Enjoy!
>
> > ... snip a KS bragging story (of course by a wizrd)... <


> > Aelane
> > Lvl 21 Wiz
> > The Tribunal
> >
> >
>
>

Dan Harmon

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> And even though it was a trade off of Evil Eyes when I attacked several
Lord
> I knew I wouldn't get the kill, but it was fascinating to watch the
> reactions of people when I cast. I may get 4 for every 9 that spawn, and
> with those I don't get I've done enough damage to help them out greatly.
I
> have friends by the way. Several in fact. And all of whom support my
> actions and will be there in the higher levels.

Great, create a guild. Call it "Gimme Mine Now, I Am Better Than You. So
What If YOU Had to Wait 2 Hours to Get into this Group. That's because YOU
are a Loser. Gimme Mine Now."

Dan Harmon

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> What's wrong in playing a High-Elf Wizard on the evil side? Why should I
be
> forced into playing a SK or Rogue to see some roleplaying in my evil ways?
> And are we playing the same game? EQ has NO roleplaying that I've seen.

Now you're claiming to be roleplaying?

The Shortest Barbarian On the Block

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You, Sir, are a dink. Thank you for posting your character name so your
servermates may all avoid you and petition you at the first possible
oppportunity.


Brian Owen wrote:
>
> Welcome,
>
> Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair of

> Polished Bone Bracers. When I arrived I found two groups "camping" the Evil
> Eyes they are found on. I make my way around the room and take up a spot
> watching each side carefully. After medding to full mana I wait for a spawn
> and immediately attack. It was a regular Evil Eye and was easily taken by
> myself. The group who'd just lost their kill begins to start ranting about
> Kill Stealing. I informed them that no spot is "camped" and I have full
> right to the kill as they do. This led to a few hours of fun for myself.
> Not only was I attacked their side, but the other as well. While I wasn't
> getting the kills every time I was getting enough to satisfy myself and keep
> me there. That includes the PBB I picked up off the normal Evil Eye.


>
> This continues for some time until they bring in some high level friends
> to try and take over. Problem with this is I only needed ONE cast to deal
> enough damage to take the kill. In the middle of fighting a Gorge Minotaur
> I saw a group option scroll by and figured this new person would like to
> group and discuss the matter. Hitting F-10 to get back to the menu I hit
> Follow and see two members in the group. I am still fighting the Minotaur
> when I notice one member disband. After rooting the Minotaur I started
> backing up and noticed immediately the spell being cast was a TELEPORT.
> Loading... Please Wait. Not a bad trick at all I must say, but
> unfortunately I was BOUND in the room and simply gated back. After
> returning, I applauded the attempt and was admitted being surprised by the
> tactic.
>

> After coming back and taking a kill from a Lvl 28 Wiz who claimed it
> couldn't be done I continued swapping back and forth picking up XP from time
> to time. Now the GM's are about to get involved. I had petitioned some
> abusive name calling, intentional training, attempting a trade during a
> fight, and general harrassment. I was told by the GM that Kill Stealing
> does not exist and that no spot can be taken by a group. Upon hearing this
> I gladly continued my attack until we were all asked to sit together by the
> two GMs on the server and discuss it openly. The GMs informed my dear
> friends that NOTHING could be done about my actions and that I was totally
> within my rights to attack the Evil Eyes. Shortly following this meeting I
> continued as I always had and picked up one or two more kills before
> deciding to camp out for the night.
>
> I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know that I
> will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my presence
> be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or any
> group.

Sartorii

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Maybe not your entire life.. but you clearly stated that you intend to keep
doing this.
I deleted your entry but it was someting like..

--- 'der.. heheheh.. umm ggaah oh ya1. huh? ahh shifft .. ! Me am be der
'marrow, ---
--- me wern u not cum me dos dis marrow.---

Or very close.. and was answered by asking which server you were on and you
replied something like you won't tell because you don't want morons on your
server. (?)

Then you proclaimed challenges to all here, and even entire guilds. Don't go
back on your word now. =)


Sartorii.


"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

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> Where in my posting does it say I've done this my characters entire life?
I
> merely started this yesterday and brought the results here. All of a
sudden

> people feel I am going to stay here until Lvl 30 at which time I'll find
no
> one around who wants to group. My posting say I came for a pair of PBBs
and
> when I have attained them I'll only be after XP. If, in that case, people
> are there "camping" the spawn for them as well I may go own my way. I
don't
> suspect that will happen until I reach Lvl 22 or possibly Lvl 23, but even
> then if I wanted to be troublesome it would be all that much easier.
> Lighten up people. There's not a one of you who hasn't done a bad thing
in
> the game at some point. I just chose to do mine at Lvl 21.
>
> Dan Harmon <deha...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:tmmm4.954$MF.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >

> > Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

Kay-Yut Chen - remove ABC in email to reply

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:11:08 -0600, "Freek" <Fr...@msn.com> wrote:

>Oh no another newbie idiot. Some mobs that have few hitpoints
>can easily be KS'ed from a low level guy. Why? A high level
>Wiz spells usually have a longer casting time. A low level Wiz
>can cast a faster lower damage spell on a mob with low hitpoints
>and create more then half the damage.
>
>So sometimes it is he who has the 'Faster Draw' then who can
>do the most damage.
>
>Don't you feel like an idiot now?
>

Geez, i don't believe you will say this.

If i am a L29 wiz (I play a wiz up to L40), i can always use a L20
nuke which cast as fast as a L20 wiz but do a bit more damage.

Only dumb wiz will let a lower level wiz KS from him. A wise wiz will
win every time since he is doing *more* damage with the same spell.

If I see a L21 wiz, do u think I will be dumb enough to use my L39
nuke, of course not. I will fall back to my L20 nuke. (Or even L16
since L20 has a shitty nuke that got resisted all the time).


Kay-Yut

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Only if the L28th wiz is *dumb* enough to use his biggest nuke. He can
easily fall back to a smaller nuke that cast as fast but do a bit more
damage than the lower level wiz.

>If a mob has for example 300 hp, one only needs to get 151 damage to get the
>kill. If two casters are standing side by side and one casts 160 dd that takes
>1.5 sec casting time and the other launches a 300 dd that take 2 sec of casting
>time, the quicker nuker is going to win.
>
>Terry
>
>Brian Owen wrote:
>
>> It's quite possible considering the target. The target was a normel Evil
>> Eye and not a Lord. In that case my DD does enough with a single strike to
>> take the kill. Hope this helps.
>>
>> Barrett <gai...@erols.com> wrote in message
>> news:87c7v7$9fd$1...@bob.news.rcn.net...
>> > What kind of idiot 28th level wizard could have a kill stolen from him by
>> a
>> > 21st level wizard. Something about this story sounds definitely suspect.
>> > Somehow I don't believe it's possible you stole a kill from a 28th level
>> > wizard.
>

Kay-Yut

Strongest of Druids

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KSing and camp busting isn't illegal by Verant standards, but there are
unwritten rules for every camp site in Norrath that most every player follows.
I've know about 4 wizs on my server who did stuff like this. Each one of them,
however, disappeared around or just before level 30. At the time, the big zone
to camp was cazic (back in the days of rubi). Everyone knew everyone else. And
everyone knew who the KSers were. They got black listed immediately. It didn't
matter if you hadn't KS'ed from everyone there...everyone would know you and
refuse you a group. So, they would sit in the courtyard stealing all that they
could from the newbies, until they just couldn't level anymore.

Rumor had it that a couple of these wizs that I knew were the same guy. He had
to keep starting over because he kept ruining his characters' reputations. He
even had the last name Steels. Instead of starting over again, he got a gm to
change his last name to "prove" that he had changed. But he didn't. So,
eventually he too disappeared.

That is why most KS'ers and camp crashers are newbies. They are those same
people who can't level past 30 and instead keep starting new characters, but
never change their ways. They are too afraid to reach higher levels because
they won't be able to boost their egos. I really feel sorry for him that he has
to use a game to make himself feel better about how much of a loser he is.

I also feel sorry for all the new people who are playing EQ everyday. These
poor people will have to deal with idiots like him over and over again because
he will be a newbie for life. And yes, you will always be a newbie because at
higher levels everyone knows everyone else. Your reputation will stay with
you. You might as well check out the EQ sites and download a picture of a
dragon or of the planes, because that is the only way you will ever see either
of them.

George Ruof

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iron...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Also with specialize you would cast the same spell faster

Specialize does not reduce casting time, only mana cost and chance to
fizzle.


--
George Ruof
gr...@pacificnet.net

Dorr

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Brian, you are just like me. Last night I camped the gate at Queynos and
SOW'ed as many people as I could. I wasn't going to let anyone else SOW
someone if I wanted to do it first. MY target MY sow.

I was there for several hours and the amazing thing was, no petitioned me.
There was this other group of guards there the whole time. They didnt seem
to mind what I was doing. They did however KS snakes and rats that I had my
eye on as they wandered up to the gate, but I didnt feel like I should
report them. They didnt talk to much and seemed a freindly enough group of
guys, so I let them go

I was being pretty blatant about it also. If I really felt like taking over
the gate, I buffed people too. I look forward to camping that gate again
tonight. We'll see what happens this time.

- Dorr -
Barbarian Shaman - Quellios

danstrad

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Adar wrote in message <87ckhm$icg$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>...

>
>Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
>news:87ck5s$qv2$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...
>> With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no
>> worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the
>> time comes.
>
>Muahahahahahahaha...
>
>Brudo (E'ci)
>Loredaeron (E'ci)

Yep, maniacal laughter is pretty much the only thing you can say to that.

Good luck, Brian *snigger*

iron...@hotmail.com

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Also with specialize you would cast the same spell faster

Silverlock

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:28:06 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

>I never start a fight I can't win. So, if I'm only at a quarter of mana I
>will not cast on the Evil Eye. It's for this reason you won't see me
>running passed you yelling for help. If I become charmed I'm open game and

>everyone can cast away on me. Beware though... I always come back for more.
>

OOoooooooh Scary. Face it you came here bragging about acting like a
jerk and you got called on it. Furthermore people will remember you
and as a wizard your will be very lonely and frustrated soon enough
with your reputation.

--
Silverlock, ICQ 474725

Household Pests? The SW-404 'SpitFire' APRL cleansing system
will remove them, we Guarantee IT! Not responsible for damage
to persons or structures from use of this product.
Dial 1-800-FRY-THEM for info and a home demonstration.


na

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"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> gurgled and spewed:
<SNIP>

Personally, I'd sit and watch patiently until you get charmed, then kill ya.
Then I'd watch where you were bound, and have a friend choose that place to
fight gorge minos for the next time. Lather-rinse-repeat... all quite legal
too. Have a nice day. :)

p.s. there's a BUNCH of other ways to deal with KSing pukes like you, that'd
just be the most satisfing one fer me. Wait till you run up against a decent
bard. :) At only 21st level, you don't know squat yet... and if you play like
that regularly (which would be no surprise given the piss-proud tone of your
post) you won't get a whole lot higher. Putz.

na


Heartguard+

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News flash, you were not called a name... you are a fuckwit.

Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

news:87ck27$qqn$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...
> Future Queen? Heaven forbid it cannot be. Name Calling... that's just to
> childish.
>
> > Rude perhaps but right on the head you sir are a fuckwit in game. So
> > says Cyndzia Sangnoire future queen of norrath
>
>
>

Sock Monkey

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:39:28 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

> The group who'd just lost their kill begins to start ranting about


>Kill Stealing. I informed them that no spot is "camped" and I have full
>right to the kill as they do.


True it's not killstealing, but it's sure is rude behavior on your
part and theirs. Yours for being socially retarded (happens when you
sit in front of a computer all the time and little else). Theirs for
stooping to your level.


> I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know that I
>will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my presence
>be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or any
>group.
>
>Aelane
>Lvl 21 Wiz
>The Tribunal


And here is the evidence of your social retardation and wiz no less
(good to see that powergamer/Kewl d00d stereotype is alive and well).

On the brell server we're dopes. Somebody actually walks up to a
camping group and asks if they might participate by rotating kills
among participants. You'd be surprised how often you'll be excepted
when you ask nicely. Only the occasional asshole ruins this
arrangement. Sadly there always seems to be at least one little dink
with poor self-esteem that can only feel good about himself when
others are put down.

Sock Monkey

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On 3 Feb 2000 16:16:01 GMT, Joe D <jo...@cws.org> wrote:

>Brian Owen <Back...@aol.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>
>You have become better at Trolling! (147)
>
>Joe D


Ahh, if only it were a troll post. However, troll posts very seldom
have the original poster following up with replies to other's posts.
Sadly, this guys for real. A kewl d00d in the flesh. More's the pity.

Sang K. Choe

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On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:01:15 GMT, "Alasdair Allan"
<posth...@x-static.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote


>> I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know that I
>> will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my presence
>> be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or any
>> group.
>>
>> Aelane
>> Lvl 21 Wiz
>> The Tribunal
>

>Oh, please, someone take a Chanter or Bard over there and show this
>fuckstick what an idiot he is.
>
>Wish I'd been there. Got a nice little trick for obnoxious KSers who try
>and fight mobs which charm...

LOL!

I play on the Tribunal.
I decided to go over and see what was happening. Appearantly, they
finally decided on a rotation--the group there takes on ee spawn,
Aelane takes "her" spawn next (a female high elf wizard).

The first time she tried to solo Lord Svir, she got charmed and was
sent to wack on the group that was waiting there for the next spawn (I
was almost tempted to nuke her. :-)

Second time it was her turn, she got Lord Svir again, and this time
she went down fast and hard.

It was easily the funniest thing I've seen in a long while--needless
to say, very few in that zone had any sympathy for her.

-- Sang.

Sang K. Choe

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 00:24:59 GMT, iron...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Also with specialize you would cast the same spell faster

No you do not.
Specialization has nothing to do with casting times.

If it did, my starfire should be casting a helluva lot sooner given
that my specialization is now at 196!

-- Sang.

Sang K. Choe

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On 3 Feb 2000 16:16:01 GMT, Joe D <jo...@cws.org> wrote:

>Brian Owen <Back...@aol.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>
>You have become better at Trolling! (147)

Actually, he isn't.
I saw Aelane in the gorge camping the eyes tonight. I also saw "her"
get charmed once and then get killed the next time the Lord spawned.

My advice Brian, apologize to the group and pray that they will
eventually group with you--because sure as it rains in the Karana, you
will have a helluva time finding groups later on in life.

-- Sang.

Sang K. Choe

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:15:45 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

>With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have no


>worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when the

>time comes. Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more trouble
>for me than I do for them.

You don't get it do you?
You're already on the shit list of at least 6 different 50th and 49th
level characters.

You're also already on the shit list of at least 12 different 30 -
35th level characters. Not to mention on the shitlist for 4 different
25 to 28th level characters.

These people are on different guilds (and several are guild
officers)--how long do you think it will be before you're shitlisted
on all of these guilds?

How do I know this? Who do you think that little halfling sitting on
the side of the gorge watching you get charmed and later die was?

Your name is the only thing that's worth a damn in this game--you can
ALWAYS get more loot, you can ALWAYS get more money. But getting your
good name back is damn near impossible once you've been shitlisted.

-- Sang.

Sang K. Choe

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:16:46 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

>When the times my friend... when the time comes. These people were guild
>member and they tried to call reinforcements in. It didn't help much.

Right, at that specific spawn, it didn't help much.

Think that's going to hold throughout your life? Don't bet on it.
Critter's hit points go up exponentially as they get higher level.

And good luck pulling this shit in a dungeon. The first time you may
get the kill, the second time the group will just interrupt their
casts and let the critter bitch slap you silly.

-- Sang.

Sang K. Choe

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:28:06 -0500, "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com>
wrote:

>I never start a fight I can't win.

Bullshit.
I *SAW* you get charmed once and die the second time tonight.

>So, if I'm only at a quarter of mana I
>will not cast on the Evil Eye. It's for this reason you won't see me
>running passed you yelling for help. If I become charmed I'm open game and
>everyone can cast away on me. Beware though... I always come back for more.

And you will continue to lose exp until you get to level 5.

-- Sang.

Alasdair Allan

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Dan Harmon <deha...@email.com> wrote
> Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote
> > What's wrong in playing a High-Elf Wizard on the evil side? Why should
I
> be
> > forced into playing a SK or Rogue to see some roleplaying in my evil
ways?
> > And are we playing the same game? EQ has NO roleplaying that I've seen.
>
> Now you're claiming to be roleplaying?

Its the old "I'm *roleplaying* an arsehole!"

Gotta love 'em, they do try so hard.

--
Alasdair Allan, Ibrox, Glasgow |England - Country where Marx developed
x-st...@null.net | the basis of Communism
X-Static's Rangers Webzine |Scotland - Country where Smith developed
http://www.x-static.demon.co.uk/ | the basis of Capitalism

Brian Owen

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Actually despite the two deaths you continue to refer to I left the evevning
1 1/2 bubbles higher in XP, 20pp, and several other small things. And
that's with not fighting for a good 45 minutes while I talked to a Senior
Guide over the matter and worked out a deal with them. What did you leave
with?


Sang K. Choe <sa...@choenet.com.remove.this.com> wrote in message
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Brian Owen

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So according to your logic after one EE they should have left the zone.
Sorry pal, items don't spawn 100% of the time and this causes the need for
continued attacks.

<rak...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:87d1e7$241$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <87c3vt$2nc$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net>,


> "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote:
> > Welcome,
> >
> > Last night I moved from HighHold to The Gorge in search of a pair
> of
> > Polished Bone Bracers. When I arrived I found two groups "camping"
> the Evil
> > Eyes they are found on. I make my way around the room and take up a
> spot
> > watching each side carefully. After medding to full mana I wait for
> a spawn
> > and immediately attack. It was a regular Evil Eye and was easily
> taken by

> > myself. The group who'd just lost their kill begins to start ranting


> about
> > Kill Stealing. I informed them that no spot is "camped" and I have
> full

> > I bring this to your attention to let everyone out there know
> that I
> > will be in The Gorge for some time and if you find yourself in my
> presence
> > be prepared to fight for the kill. I won't back down from anyone or
> any
> > group.
> >
> > Aelane
> > Lvl 21 Wiz
> > The Tribunal
> >
> >
>
>

> I had this same thing happen to my lvl 9 (at the time) Warrior. Me and
> 3 other Halflings were camping the orcs (which are ALWAYS camped..i
> finally found an opening and was happy to play there.) After the first
> round of orcs...a lvl 11 Druid Woodelf came along, "Can I join you?"
> Well, I told him NICELY that we had some lvl 7s in group (and we DID!)
> He said, "ok." Sat over by the tree...as we healed and waited for the
> next spawn. Next spawn: I assumed he may have been helping us...but we
> didn't get the exp...one 11 druid against: two lvl 7 Druids, lvl 8
> Cleric, and a lvl 9 Warrior. I let him go thinking: It could be a
> mistake. He goes after that battle: "Gee, thanx for weakenin' it for
> me guys." He stole the 2nd orc too.
>
>
> I /ted him...hoping he just DIDN'T understand: He said, "I asked if
> you wanted to join me...at least you'd be making SOME experience." I
> said, "We have some lvl 7s in group...they'd be making NO experience."
> He goes on to say the exact same stuff as that 21 Wizard poster said:
> "you can't own a spawn." I got ticked, and told him my 36 Enchanter
> would be along soon and that he can talk to him about owning a spawn.
> Then he said, "Yeah...my lvl 48 Pally...." I stopped there and said,
> "Shut up, you pain in the ass...you're going on ignore." Plainly, this
> jerk was having fun doing it: "Thanx for weakenin' it guys." Yeah, ok,
> you aren't here to start trouble.
>
>
> My Enchanter was on Faydwer and I considered it a waste of my time to
> go there and KS him....I wouldn't gain exp, and i'd have to put up w/
> an asshole all night...so I walked away. Now this druid will NEVER get
> in a group w/ my Enchanter/Warrior...and when he's powerlvling in
> Skarana when I walk thru, my 'chanter will laugh if he /t's me for
> clarity. Matter of fact I may clarity everyone in that zone but him so
> his chances are lower to be able to find anything.
>
>
> The reason why GMs and Verant support the "Can't own a spawn issue" is
> because basically, they can't police every spawn and every complaint.
> So, opportunist like you (lvl 21 Wizard) can feel justified in your
> "Not-Really-Kill-Stealing, Kill stealing."
>
>
> So, are you proud that you muscled in and took a good item from them
> when you stole it? Are you happy that they may have traveled a long
> distance to be there...maybe for exp as much as the loot? Displacing
> ppl there first is wrong. You know-- that simple rule as in: "I was
> in line first to get to the teller...why are you coming in off the
> street and getting serviced b4 me" kinda thing.
>
>
> I can't wait until your wizard can't find a group...maybe you and my
> Druid pal would like to team up then?
>
>
>
> Rakadar, The Rules Must Be Re-Written, The Enchanter.

Brian Owen

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Very interesting reply. There are people who are so kind as yourself, and
then there are people who are not so kind such as myself. It's the
combinations of us all that will make a peaceful world.

<lsu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:87d252$2pb$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> Barbarian Shaman Baker - Quellios

Brian Owen

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Petition all you'd like. Not a thing can be done to prevent my actions. As
for last night and the night before... ask anyone fighting the EEs. I
wasn't taking ALL of them. Had I been then you're complaints would have
fallen into an open mind and I would have left. Competition will make us
all stronger.

The Shortest Barbarian On the Block <kaya...@red-star.net> wrote in
message news:3890D0D2...@red-star.net...


> You, Sir, are a dink. Thank you for posting your character name so your
> servermates may all avoid you and petition you at the first possible
> oppportunity.
>
>
>
>

Alasdair Allan

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Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote

> Petition all you'd like. Not a thing can be done to prevent my actions.
As
> for last night and the night before... ask anyone fighting the EEs. I
> wasn't taking ALL of them. Had I been then you're complaints would have
> fallen into an open mind and I would have left. Competition will make us
> all stronger.

Not "all" because it's gonna kill you.

Favourite tactic with KS twats where Charm mobs are involved :-

Disease on the KSer, Envenomed Bolt on the mob.

Mob dies first, KSer dies second, takes xp loss.

Alasdair Allan

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> On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:01:15 GMT, "Alasdair Allan"
> <posth...@x-static.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Oh, please, someone take a Chanter or Bard over there and show this
> >fuckstick what an idiot he is.
> >
> >Wish I'd been there. Got a nice little trick for obnoxious KSers who try
> >and fight mobs which charm...
>
> LOL!
>
> I play on the Tribunal.
> I decided to go over and see what was happening. Appearantly, they
> finally decided on a rotation--the group there takes on ee spawn,
> Aelane takes "her" spawn next (a female high elf wizard).
>
> The first time she tried to solo Lord Svir, she got charmed and was
> sent to wack on the group that was waiting there for the next spawn (I
> was almost tempted to nuke her. :-)

Damn, you are a saint. Had I seen the little twat charmed, it would have
been curtains for the shitebag.

> Second time it was her turn, she got Lord Svir again, and this time
> she went down fast and hard.
>
> It was easily the funniest thing I've seen in a long while--needless
> to say, very few in that zone had any sympathy for her.

Repeat after me, "it's ok to kill twats when charmed".

Terry Henne

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Oh, you're absolutely correct, but no one is assuming brilliance here. Besides,
there are many other factors that can play in fighting for a kill. Such as lag,
personal reaction time, and computer speed. Theoretically, if both casters hit the
mob simulataneously, then yes, the higher level caster could get more kills.

Terry

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Sergey Dashevskiy

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In article <01bf6f24$799cfae0$cd0201c0@dell40>, posthamster@x-
static.demon.co.uk says...

> > The first time she tried to solo Lord Svir, she got charmed and was
> > sent to wack on the group that was waiting there for the next spawn (I
> > was almost tempted to nuke her. :-)
>
> Damn, you are a saint. Had I seen the little twat charmed, it would have
> been curtains for the shitebag.

Actually that happened to me once, was quite embarassing. Me (level 30
druid at the moment) went to Beholder to take revenge on the eyes that
kicked my ass when I was a wee druid. I warned the groups camping there
that I'm here just for fun, won't KS from them, and will help if they
need. If I happen to get the kill, they can have the loot (I didn't need
it).
After that I buffed them and sat down to med. Lo and behold, lord
<what's-his-face> spawns and charms me. I've no idea how he managed
that, but he did. At that point (not sure if it was ever fixed), when
you are charmed you had unlimited mana. I shot 7 people before they
figured out what was going on and zoned

Suineko

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:12:33 -0500, Brian Owen wrote:
>Actually I distinctly declare at the bottom:

>
>Aelane
>Lvl 21 Wiz
>The Tribunal
>
>Now who's not reading? And my mommy doesn't pay my $10/mo. I do. As for
>the rest of you I can't say where you get your money.
>

Guess what? Nobody gives a shit. You ARE an egocentric fuckwit
with no appreciation for others.


Hey, juvenile name calling DID make me feel better ;) Lets try it
again....

FUCKWIT FUCKWIT FUCKWIT FUCKING FUCKWITTED FUCKWIT

Nope. not as much fun the second time. Ahh well...

Sui

Suineko

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 15:21:40 GMT, Alasdair Allan wrote:
>Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote
>> Petition all you'd like. Not a thing can be done to prevent my actions.
>As
>> for last night and the night before... ask anyone fighting the EEs. I
>> wasn't taking ALL of them. Had I been then you're complaints would have
>> fallen into an open mind and I would have left. Competition will make us
>> all stronger.
>
>Not "all" because it's gonna kill you.
>
>Favourite tactic with KS twats where Charm mobs are involved :-
>
>Disease on the KSer, Envenomed Bolt on the mob.
>
>Mob dies first, KSer dies second, takes xp loss.
>

Why do you need to envenom the mob al? It has to die to
make the xp loss happen?

I have to say though, I like the group, port, bind tactic ;)

Sui

Mason Barge

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>I was told by the GM that Kill
>Stealing
>> does not exist and that no spot can be taken by a group.

No, but Verant policy clearly states that players must SHARE a spawn. If he
steals every kill, you should repeatedly petition until you get some relief.

Yes, you can't hog the spawn if you don't group him, but neither can he.


"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me
some coffee."
- Abraham Lincoln

Jerry The Cow

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"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message
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> Actually despite the two deaths you continue to refer to I left the
evevning
> 1 1/2 bubbles higher in XP, 20pp, and several other small things.

D00D! U R L33T!
U gotz phat xps an lewtz!!

And all it cost you was your name, and the future of your character.

As for what they got... well, they got to watch you croak. You
can't buy that kind of entertainment.

-Manlaven

Devast

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And your point is that you revel in being an asshole that noone likes?

I think you're probably just a 10 year seeking attention

In article <87ctsn$6m9$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net>,
"Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote:
> You think this is bad. Wait til you hear my prices... 10pp for a
> bind. Any item sold for more than "normal" prices. Much much more...

Jeff Hoppe

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There is no such thing as role-playing an asshole.

There are, however, assholes who justify their actions with "role-playing"

Jeff
Cadfael, EM

PS. Bet you a dollar he will be back in 10 levels saying the game sucks,
because no one will group with him.

Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

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> Where in my posting does it say I've done this my characters entire life?
I
> merely started this yesterday and brought the results here. All of a
sudden
> people feel I am going to stay here until Lvl 30 at which time I'll find
no
> one around who wants to group. My posting say I came for a pair of PBBs
and
> when I have attained them I'll only be after XP. If, in that case, people
> are there "camping" the spawn for them as well I may go own my way. I
don't
> suspect that will happen until I reach Lvl 22 or possibly Lvl 23, but even
> then if I wanted to be troublesome it would be all that much easier.
> Lighten up people. There's not a one of you who hasn't done a bad thing
in
> the game at some point. I just chose to do mine at Lvl 21.
>
> Dan Harmon <deha...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:tmmm4.954$MF.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...


> >
> > Brian Owen <Back...@Aol.Com> wrote in message

> > news:87ck5s$qv2$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net...


> > > With as many people who come and go on these servers, please. I have
no
> > > worries of finding a group to fight the planes or a dragon raid when
the
> > > time comes. Show me a guild that stands a chance at causing more
> trouble
> > > for me than I do for them.
> >

> > Level 30+ players don't come & go nearly as much as levels 15-25.
> >
> > You are an asshole, and if you don't stop being an asshole soon, you
will
> > not be able to find any decent groups. Wizards have a hard enough time
> > grouping as it is. Being a wizard AND an ass is a very bad combination.
> >
> > You are not mature enough for this game. Go away.
> >
> >
>
>

John Henders

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In <87ejn6$kl2$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net> "Brian Owen" <Back...@Aol.Com> writes:

>Actually despite the two deaths you continue to refer to I left the evevning

>1 1/2 bubbles higher in XP, 20pp, and several other small things. And
>that's with not fighting for a good 45 minutes while I talked to a Senior
>Guide over the matter and worked out a deal with them. What did you leave
>with?

Maybe you missed it but he's L50. He left with something even more
valuable, a really good laugh at your expense. You still haven't
answered the point about how you never start a fight you can't win
though. Guess that was just idle braggery, like most of your other spew.


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Syss

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