The best Joystick ?
Antonio Roig
What is the best Joystick for player to Duke Nukem 3D or Quake in your
opinion please?
I have got buy one and I like know the opinion of experts.Thanks.
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Tony Miller
This "expert" says that using a combination of mouse and keyboard is
*much* better than a joystick.
Tony
Joe Siegler
On Tue, 06 Jan 1998 19:12:32 +0100, Antonio Roig <aroig...@mx2.redestb.es>
wrote:
>What is the best Joystick for player to Duke Nukem 3D or Quake in your
>opinion please?
None. These games are horrible with joysticks. Our way of playing is a
mouse/keyboard combo. In fact, most of the industry plays this way. A few
keyboarders, but the bulk are mouse/keyboard.
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chet lubrant
I disagree with the comment that Duke plays horribly with a joystick. I
am using a Stock Gateway D5-166 (R3D added) about two years ago. The very
first games I purchased were Doom and Duke 3D. There I was sitting in my
family room about ten feet away from my 31" monitor, keyboard on the
cocktail table and wireless mouse in my hand, sitting back in my favorite
chair... During gameplay I found myself constantly leaning forward to hit
keys for various reasons... particularly for Duke which had many more
functions than Doom. After my back and shoulders starting hurting so bad
(remember how we all would play for hours on end) I said to myself...let me
try this joystick approach. I purchased a CH Combat stick. Configured it
to fire, open, swim up/down, change weapons, strafe left/right etc. I have
been using it ever since and I love it. My back and shoulders feel better
too. I suppose if your sitting at a work station or sitting at your desk
or whatever, the keyboard/mouse arrangement works fine but if you have ever
tried to use a Gateway wireless mouse (the type you hold in your hand with
your thumb rolling the mouse button instead of moving around on a pad)
there's a big difference. I think the only game that played better for me
with the mouse/keyboard was Diablo. Everything else has been with the
Combat Stick. I truly am curious... Do the majority of players use
mouse/keybaord combos for all games? C'mon joystick users... let me know.
Joe Siegler <dope...@gte.net> wrote in article
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LEONARD Daniel
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Antonio Roig wrote:
> What is the best Joystick for player to Duke Nukem 3D or Quake in your
> opinion please?
> I have got buy one and I like know the opinion of experts.Thanks.
>
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My friend likes gamepads for those, I prefer keyboard with mouse help
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John Wolanski
> On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Antonio Roig wrote:
> > What is the best Joystick for player to Duke Nukem 3D or Quake in your
> > opinion please?
I'm not an expert, but if you GOTTA have a joystick, try to get one with
lots of buttons you can program for different functions, since there are
SO many in Duke and Quake. A four button gamepad might be alright, but
you'll have to do a lot of reaching for them keys to look around or
switch weapons.
You'll probably get lots of recommendations to use a mouse, and rightly
so, it is THE most flexible way to play the game. All the experts use
mice, and you did ask for expert opinions, eh? :)
Trackballs, such as the Logitech Trackman Marble is probably the next in
line below a mouse.
Next is keyboard only, and at the bottom of the list...you guessed
it...begins with a "j" ends in "k" and rhymes with "joystick"...
Although, what I would like to see is someone that uses rudder pedals,
throttle and a steering wheel! With games like Shadow Warrior that let
you drive....nahhhhhh!
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On 7 Jan 98 17:44:45 GMT, "chet lubrant" <utop...@snip.net> wrote:
>I disagree with the comment that Duke plays horribly with a joystick. I
<blacrap>
Have you played it with a mouse/keyboard combo then? =)
>Joe Siegler <dope...@gte.net> wrote:
><aroig...@mx2.redestb.es>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >What is the best Joystick for player to Duke Nukem 3D or Quake in your
>> >opinion please?
>>
>> None. These games are horrible with joysticks. Our way of playing is a
>> mouse/keyboard combo. In fact, most of the industry plays this way. A
>few
>> keyboarders, but the bulk are mouse/keyboard.
>>
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>> Joe Siegler (jo...@3drealms.com)
>> Apogee Software, Ltd.
>> http://www.apogee1.com
There is someone who knows what he is talking about. =)
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Mike Mumper wrote:
> I don't see how anyone play using the mouse.
One thing you have to keep in mind is that mouse use is not "using the
mouse", but using the mouse WITH the keyboard. When I first started
playing with the mouse, I thought you used only the mouse. Moving
forward and backward totally blew! I was like "what the--?! How the
HELL can someone play this way?!? So I went back to my Gamepad for a
year or two. Then, I found out the proper way to play with a mouse.
You use the mouse for turning and the normal movement keys on the
keyboard to move around forward and backward.
A good source for playing with a mouse is the Facility Deathmatch
Training Manual for Doom2, written by BahdKo. Yeah, it says it's for
doom and for deathmatch, but that don't matter. A 3d game is basically
a 3d game--from Wolf3d to Duke3D to Quake2 and beyond, they all play
pretty much the same. The stuff you learn from this manual will open up
new roads for you where you can think for yourself as far as comfortable
keyboard configuration go.
You can get it at:
ftp.cdrom.com/pub/doom2/deathmatch/facility.zip
...you won't believe what's to be learned here if you're not too
familiar with how the mouse is used in a 3d game.
Mike Mumper
In article <34b3a677...@news.concentric.net>, dope...@gte.net says...
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>None. These games are horrible with joysticks. Our way of playing is a
>mouse/keyboard combo. In fact, most of the industry plays this way. A few
>keyboarders, but the bulk are mouse/keyboard.
I hope that doesn't mean you're going to discontinue joystick support. I use
a four-button joystick to play Duke, and I like it just fine. I don't see
how anyone play using the mouse.
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>> > What is the best Joystick for player to Duke Nukem 3D or Quake in your
>> > opinion please?
I use a joystick, so I guess I'm not an "expert"!! Mine is a Cyclone 3D; 17
programmable buttons, hat switch, the whole nine yards. Fifty bucks at Best Buy
and I love it. I've heard that some people have trouble installing the
software, but my installation went smoothly.
Hope this helps!
Tony Miller
Mr. Joe:
Of course, some of the bugs in Duke are a pain, like the "wall kill" bug
in Dukematch.
But what I'm asking about here is the other bugs. Like the one in Holly
where you can get behind the door coming in off the street to the
theater and "warp" to behind the red key door. Are those bugs
intentional?
I started wondering how you could finish Holly so fast, but I found that
if I used that "bug" to jump behind the red door, I could finish it
really fast.
Tony
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