Doom 3 on Windows 98?
Dr. Tom B. Whatever
completely screwed out of Doom 3???
NuQ
Dr. Tom B. Whatever <kna...@hotmail.com> typed:
> For losers like me that aren't planning on buying Windows 2000/ME,
> are we completely screwed out of Doom 3???
Chances are, if you are running Win98, the hardware on the system won't be
up to par to run D3 anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
M.W.H
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Doom3/FAQ_Windows9xME.htm >
HTH
M.W.H
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hunkahunkaburninluv
> completely screwed out of Doom 3???
>
as $50 online.
EvilBill
interruptions are enough to make one insane!!
Personally, I've had Issues with some games and XP.
The Pharaoh expansion pack will not run on XP at all, compatibility mode
or not. Nor will any of the Tomb Raiders apart from the latest.
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McGrandpa
> What! Why is hunkahunkaburninluv <so...@where.come> here?? All these
> interruptions are enough to make one insane!!
>> "Dr. Tom B. Whatever" <kna...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:pc8Vc.6011$de4.1858@trndny07...
>>> For losers like me that aren't planning on buying Windows 2000/ME,
>>> are we completely screwed out of Doom 3???
>>>
>> Why are you runing Windows 98? You can get an OEM copy of XP for as
>> little as $50 online.
>
> Personally, I've had Issues with some games and XP.
> The Pharaoh expansion pack will not run on XP at all, compatibility
> mode or not. Nor will any of the Tomb Raiders apart from the latest.
Um, EB.... I run all 6 tombraiders and all the 'gold' packs as well. XP
Pro. They DO run under XP, even TR1 in software mode. Then ya get hold
of GliDOS or some other wrapper and play it in ince visual mode. :)
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EvilBill
interruptions are enough to make one insane!!
>>
>> Personally, I've had Issues with some games and XP.
>> The Pharaoh expansion pack will not run on XP at all, compatibility
>> mode or not. Nor will any of the Tomb Raiders apart from the latest.
>
> Um, EB.... I run all 6 tombraiders and all the 'gold' packs as well.
> XP Pro. They DO run under XP, even TR1 in software mode. Then ya
> get hold of GliDOS or some other wrapper and play it in ince visual
> mode. :)
>
That's odd. I can't get any of the first 5 to run on XP without
downloading the unofficial patches from Stella's site. And Chronicles
will run with that patch, but I can't save games :(
McGrandpa
> What! Why is McGrandpa <McGran...@NOThotmail.com> here?? All these
> interruptions are enough to make one insane!!
>> EvilBill wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I've had Issues with some games and XP.
>>> The Pharaoh expansion pack will not run on XP at all, compatibility
>>> mode or not. Nor will any of the Tomb Raiders apart from the latest.
>>
>> Um, EB.... I run all 6 tombraiders and all the 'gold' packs as well.
>> XP Pro. They DO run under XP, even TR1 in software mode. Then ya
>> get hold of GliDOS or some other wrapper and play it in ince visual
>> mode. :)
>>
>
> That's odd. I can't get any of the first 5 to run on XP without
> downloading the unofficial patches from Stella's site. And Chronicles
> will run with that patch, but I can't save games :(
Been a while since I installed them all. Don't recall if I used any of
the patches or not. There is ONE for TR4 that is a must for XP. It's
the tomb4.exe that's been fixed so load times are faster, that's the
only change to it. Works great :) I play some user made levels, and ya
have to have the Level Editor to do it.
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McGrandpa [AGQx]
EvilBill
interruptions are enough to make one insane!!
> EvilBill wrote:
>>
>> That's odd. I can't get any of the first 5 to run on XP without
>> downloading the unofficial patches from Stella's site. And Chronicles
>> will run with that patch, but I can't save games :(
>
> Been a while since I installed them all. Don't recall if I used any
> of the patches or not. There is ONE for TR4 that is a must for XP.
> It's the tomb4.exe that's been fixed so load times are faster, that's
> the only change to it. Works great :) I play some user made levels,
> and ya have to have the Level Editor to do it.
>
Yeah, I've been able to run TR2, 3 and 4 by applying the unofficial
patches. Chronicles will run, but I can't load or save games.
Marshall
"EvilBill" <evilb...@freeuk.com> wrote in message news:2os0fvF...@uni-berlin.de...
> What! Why is McGrandpa <McGran...@NOThotmail.com> here?? All these
> interruptions are enough to make one insane!!
> > EvilBill wrote:
> >>
> >> That's odd. I can't get any of the first 5 to run on XP without
> >> downloading the unofficial patches from Stella's site. And Chronicles
> >> will run with that patch, but I can't save games :(
> >
> > Been a while since I installed them all. Don't recall if I used any
> > of the patches or not. There is ONE for TR4 that is a must for XP.
> > It's the tomb4.exe that's been fixed so load times are faster, that's
> > the only change to it. Works great :) I play some user made levels,
> > and ya have to have the Level Editor to do it.
> >
>
> Yeah, I've been able to run TR2, 3 and 4 by applying the unofficial
> patches. Chronicles will run, but I can't load or save games.
I can empathize with your reluctance to upgrade to XP, but what are
you going to do when (soon) most new games that come out won't
even play on Windows 98 anymore, and there won't even be any
patches to make them do so? Will you give up gaming? Only play
old games that still work with 98? Or bite the bullet and upgrade?
Just curious how far your aversion to XP will take you...
-Marshall
McGrandpa
http://tombraiders.net/stella/
It's always got something useful. Been here before? there are FAQs
that have some troubleshooting tips. I know there have been issues in
the past with just about every one of the TR games not wanting to
save/load games. There have been solutions too. You might simply have
to edit your shortcut to be SURE the game is running from the hd and not
the cd rom.
HIH
McG.
EvilBill
I *am* running XP, this is how I know the damn things don't work
properly <g>
Marshall
"EvilBill" <evilb...@freeuk.com> wrote in message news:2os8enF...@uni-berlin.de...
LOL! Sorry, mistakenly thought you were still holding firm against it!
Carry on... :-)
-Marshall
PAUL SUTTON
I used the hex editor hack, and it works great, on my duron 1600, 512mb
ram, Geforce4 mx4000 graphcs card,
You could always get linux and get a local lug to help you set up linux
doom3 on that, Unless you can install linux you self, Linux is free
and the linux client will hopefully be available shortly.
Paul
PS I take it you meant 2000/XP as I don't even think the hack works with
ME.
Ai.Learning
> Why are you runing Windows 98? You can get an OEM copy of XP for as little
> as $50 online.
Windows XP sucks. I have a XP3000+ with a radeon 9700Pro running on Windows
98! : )
I was wondering, if just a simple hex editing let make Doom 3 run on Win98,
so Doom 3 was designed for Win98. Is it possible that Bill Gates gave ID
financing but told them to make this game run on Windows XP only?
Raymond Martineau
No. The dependancy on Windows XP is actually a legitimare one, as one
component makes an API call that was only introduced in Windows 2000/XP.
While the API call can be replaced with the older one without too much
trouble, you will encounter problems when your computer gets upgraded past
4GB of ram.
Ai.Learning
> component makes an API call that was only introduced in Windows 2000/XP.
>
> While the API call can be replaced with the older one without too much
> trouble, you will encounter problems when your computer gets upgraded past
> 4GB of ram.
Nah, impossible, this game was programmed for Win98.. Impossible that
something created for XP is that easilly reverted. Bill Gates has something
to do with it.. 25% of users still has win98, they're losing 1/4 of the
market for a reason. All u have to do is change GlobalMemoryStatusEx in the
EXE file.. LOL!!
Marshall
"Ai.Learning" <N0__SP3Mtr...@hotmail.comN0___SP3M> wrote in message news:K9n%c.123719$Np3.5...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > No. The dependancy on Windows XP is actually a legitimare one, as one
> > component makes an API call that was only introduced in Windows 2000/XP.
> >
> > While the API call can be replaced with the older one without too much
> > trouble, you will encounter problems when your computer gets upgraded past
> > 4GB of ram.
>
> Nah, impossible, this game was programmed for Win98.. Impossible that
> something created for XP is that easilly reverted. Bill Gates has something
> to do with it.. 25% of users still has win98, they're losing 1/4 of the
> market for a reason.
Yep- laziness, stubbornness, ignorance, paranoia, or good old-fashioned lack
of funds. Or any combination of those. Or a desire to continue to use older
legacy hardware and software that isn't compatible with a modern 32-bit OS
like XP.
I used 98/98SE for years of gaming, and now I've used XP for several more
years of gaming- and there is no comparison for me- in all departments that
matter at all to me, XP is a superior OS to 98. Simply not having to always
reboot your PC after the majority of game/application crashes, like you have
to do with 98, has saved me many hours of disgust. And when you do
have to reboot, it is at least 2-3 times faster to do so, than any Win98 loading
time I ever saw. Same with shutdowns. Add to that XP's superior stability and
much more mature support for modern hardware technologies, etc., etc., etc...
and it's a no brainer.
But if you insist on allowing dislike and paranoia of Microsoft to prevent you
from making a good and sensible upgrade, well, that's your problem :-)
-Marshall
traveler
GREAT GAME !!!
DooM 3 ran WONDERFULLY well on my P4P800d system with 1 Gig of RAM
running win98se !!! Looked great on my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro!
No problems whatsoever on my win98se system.
traveler
Ai.Learning
> GREAT GAME !!!
>
> DooM 3 ran WONDERFULLY well on my P4P800d system with 1 Gig of RAM
> running win98se !!! Looked great on my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro!
>
> No problems whatsoever on my win98se system.
I had some problems, random lock ups, but It might my my CPU overheating.
After all of the crash, my CPU temp was 75c. And that is after the complete
scandisk and reboot, so it had the time to cool off. My XP 2000 isnt enough
and is a bottle neck for my Radeon 9700PRO.
Anyway, I just received my brand new Asus mobo with a AMD 3000+, I'll do the
upgrade today, and I'll keep u informed if it fixes the problem! Can't wait
to see how Win98 runs on a XP 3000! : )