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jon nadeau

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Dec 30, 1994, 7:19:42 PM12/30/94
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Does anyone know if Heretic 1.0 will run on a 386/40 with 8 megs of RAM?
I read on here earlier that the beta version wouldn't run on a 386, but
never heard anything about version 1.0.

Scott Notenberg

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Dec 31, 1994, 3:49:19 AM12/31/94
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We've got it working on a 386/40 _but_ with a 387 math coprocessor
installed. When we didn't have the coprocessor installed it hung
10% through the green "loading" bar. I assume it was doing some
number crunching there. :-)

And, whil I may have the nets attention:
Anybody know of a math coprocessor addon emulator for DOS/4GW
(e.g. some sort of library located in the same dir as the executable
which it will use if it can't use the CPU for math)

Scott Notenberg (nots...@myra.com)

Robin Moseley

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Jan 1, 1995, 12:47:40 PM1/1/95
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type HERETIC -DEBUG at the C:\HERETIC> prompt....
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= Why is General Failure trying to read my disk?? =
=Robin Moseley = ro...@necpe.demon.co.uk = HAM G1MHU@GB7PMB =
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Robin Moseley

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Jan 2, 1995, 1:06:19 PM1/2/95
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In article <9A67...@rook.wa.com> JON.N...@rook.wa.com "jon nadeau" writes:

Robin here, Telford UK
My friend has a 383DX40 with 8MB RAM, he is running Heretic, he types
HERETIC -DEBUG to make it run, else it will hang on him....
I have just stuck some more RAM into my 386 40 that I normally only use for
Packet Radio (I run a small BBS over VHF and UHF Radio).
Well, needless to say I managed to get Heretic up and running now that it has
8MB RAM and only if I type the -debug at the command line.
Oh, my machine and also my Friend's machine do not have 80387's fitted.

Oh, my machine is running Cirrus Logic CL5422 Video, my mate's machine is
running a TSENG ET4000 card,

(My other machine is a 486 DX2 66 clocked to 80Mhz much better for such games)

Bye...


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Tom Wentworth

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Jan 4, 1995, 12:06:29 PM1/4/95
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In article <3edbp2$8...@news1.digex.net>, tda...@access4.digex.net (Paul Robinson) writes:
|> jon nadeau (JON.N...@rook.wa.com) wrote:
|>
|> : Does anyone know if Heretic 1.0 will run on a 386/40 with 8 megs of RAM?

|> : I read on here earlier that the beta version wouldn't run on a 386, but
|> : never heard anything about version 1.0.
|>
|> I have 16 meg on my 386 DX 40. According to some people, the reason I
|> can run it is because I have a math coprocessor in my machine.

My take on this is that Heretic does some stuff that requires a math
co-processor. That's why it runs on 486's and not 386's. I've talked
to people who have 386 W/ a co-processor, and Heretic runs fine. I think
this floating point optimization allows Heretic some speed improvements
over Doom. I'd also guess that the -debug flag runs Heretic in a mode that
doesn't optimize floating point calculations (I'll bet Heretic does a lot
of texture mapping computations that would benefit from a co-processor).

So, Heretic will run on a 386/40 w/ 8 meg (runs on my machine at work) -- IF
you give it the -debug flag (also, if you use the dm program to setup a
deathmatch, give it the -debug flag as well). Good luck


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William Lane

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Jan 4, 1995, 1:47:34 PM1/4/95
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I've got a 386DX40 w/8MB or RAM
and can run Heretic a lot better
(IMHO) than DOOMII. I can start
Heretic w/o the -debug switch or
with it; it seems to crash less
often when I start it w/the -debug
switch though. Just for the record,
I've got a ULSI (or is it VLSI?)
math coprocessor in my system.
-Bill Lane


Paul Robinson (tda...@access4.digex.net) wrote:
: jon nadeau (JON.N...@rook.wa.com) wrote:

: : Does anyone know if Heretic 1.0 will run on a 386/40 with 8 megs of RAM?


: : I read on here earlier that the beta version wouldn't run on a 386, but
: : never heard anything about version 1.0.

: I have 16 meg on my 386 DX 40. According to some people, the reason I

: can run it is because I have a math coprocessor in my machine.


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Space Ace

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Jan 4, 1995, 2:42:05 PM1/4/95
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In article <D1w4u...@granite.mv.net>, to...@aimtech.com (Tom Wentworth) writes:
> In article <3edbp2$8...@news1.digex.net>, tda...@access4.digex.net (Paul Robinson) writes:
> |> jon nadeau (JON.N...@rook.wa.com) wrote:
> |>
> |> : Does anyone know if Heretic 1.0 will run on a 386/40 with 8 megs of RAM?
> |> : I read on here earlier that the beta version wouldn't run on a 386, but
> |> : never heard anything about version 1.0.
> |>
> |> I have 16 meg on my 386 DX 40. According to some people, the reason I
> |> can run it is because I have a math coprocessor in my machine.
>
> My take on this is that Heretic does some stuff that requires a math
> co-processor. That's why it runs on 486's and not 386's. I've talked
> to people who have 386 W/ a co-processor, and Heretic runs fine. I think
> this floating point optimization allows Heretic some speed improvements
> over Doom. I'd also guess that the -debug flag runs Heretic in a mode that
> doesn't optimize floating point calculations (I'll bet Heretic does a lot
> of texture mapping computations that would benefit from a co-processor).
>
> So, Heretic will run on a 386/40 w/ 8 meg (runs on my machine at work) -- IF
> you give it the -debug flag (also, if you use the dm program to setup a
> deathmatch, give it the -debug flag as well). Good luck

> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


> |
> Tom Wentworth SQA Unix AimTech Corp. |
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> ________________________________________
>
> "If you're not cheating, you're not trying ...."

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Actually, just last night I got Heretic (thanks to the kind person
who posted the -debug switch) to work on my 386DX/40 system with only
4 megs of RAM and no coprocessor! It worked fine and actually it
seemed that the frame rate was a little quicker compared to how DOOM
plays on my system. So maybe there is still hope for us people who
do not have all the high-tech specs yet! I hope that others can get
the game to work, it is well worth it...

Good Luck!

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Paul Robinson

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Jan 4, 1995, 12:30:10 AM1/4/95
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jon nadeau (JON.N...@rook.wa.com) wrote:

: Does anyone know if Heretic 1.0 will run on a 386/40 with 8 megs of RAM?


: I read on here earlier that the beta version wouldn't run on a 386, but
: never heard anything about version 1.0.

I have 16 meg on my 386 DX 40. According to some people, the reason I

can run it is because I have a math coprocessor in my machine.

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