Crazy idea: AGD2 European RL meeting

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Gundemarie Scholz

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:44:51 PM6/19/04
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Some time ago, after one of the Green Team sessions the idea came up
if maybe it is fun to organize a Real Life meeting. Most likely I will
be unemployed for two more months, so I would have the time to think
some more about it and find a nice place. But the most important
question then is: Would anybody here be interested in meeting the
others, or do you all prefer the anonymity of usenet? (:

Brian Brunner

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Jun 19, 2004, 6:36:20 PM6/19/04
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Babe Bridou

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Jun 19, 2004, 7:04:39 PM6/19/04
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Gundemarie Scholz wrote:

Why not? I like the idea. I'll be on holidays with no hard plans from
july 9th to july 22nd. That would be fine if you could manage to gather
the troops between those dates :)

Tora

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Jun 21, 2004, 3:52:48 AM6/21/04
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I like the idea.
If it's doable for me, i'll be present.

Wouldnt the first step be to see a picture of each other ?

Tora

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Hansi

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Jun 21, 2004, 8:51:02 AM6/21/04
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Hi,

if the time and place for the meeting are convenient for Kris and/or me
we would gladly join in...

HAnsi

Ian Oversby

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Jun 21, 2004, 8:51:22 AM6/21/04
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"Gundemarie Scholz" <spamyo...@inbox.ru> wrote in message news:<2jjcbdF...@uni-berlin.de>...

I'm definitely interested in principle. In practise, it may be a
little difficult to organise for me these days :-/

Ian

Michael Vondung

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Jun 22, 2004, 4:10:46 AM6/22/04
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Ian Oversby wrote:

> I'm definitely interested in principle. In practise, it may be a
> little difficult to organise for me these days :-/

Ditto. Depends on where, when, how, expenses, etc.

M.

Gundemarie Scholz

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Jun 22, 2004, 11:41:01 AM6/22/04
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So far we have Belgium, France, England and Germany. I would be
interested in finding out what means of transport you would be using:
car, plane, train, hitch-hiking?

Babe said he is free July 9th-22nd, and I know I am in England July
22nd-27th. When do the others have time?

Hansi

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Jun 23, 2004, 3:08:42 AM6/23/04
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>
> So far we have Belgium, France, England and Germany. I would be
> interested in finding out what means of transport you would be using:
> car, plane, train, hitch-hiking?
>
> Babe said he is free July 9th-22nd, and I know I am in England July
> 22nd-27th. When do the others have time?
as you probably know, i am unemployed at the moment, so i have more
free time that i care to have, but at the same time money is kind of
scarce...

but with enough time to plan i guess its possible to get cheap flights
throughout europe...

Hansi

Babe Bridou

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Jun 23, 2004, 3:17:46 AM6/23/04
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Hansi wrote:

You know, I plan on moving using my car during my vacations. If we go
to, say, Berlin, I think I can come by and give you and Kris a lift, or
something like that

just my two cents, ooopsie I'm very, very late this morning :)

Mark Morrison

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Jun 23, 2004, 5:56:12 AM6/23/04
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I'd be interested - when I get some cash (soon I hope).

I'll be in the US in the first half of august, but I should be ok for
the latter part of July.

I'm in the UK, but would be willing to catch a cheap flight to
mainland Europe.

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Tora

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Jun 23, 2004, 7:15:51 AM6/23/04
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Mean of transport : car
Any weekend in july or august i think
Place to be; Brussels ? Central for everyone and easy for me :)
Paris is good too, or maybe a town in Germany near the border, like Koln or
Aachen ?

Tora

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Gundemarie Scholz

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Jun 23, 2004, 11:27:58 AM6/23/04
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Tora wrote:
> Mean of transport : car
> Any weekend in july or august i think
> Place to be; Brussels ? Central for everyone and easy for me :)

Is that an invitation to your place?

> Paris is good too, or maybe a town in Germany near the border, like
> Koln or Aachen ?

I looked at the map, and the Cologne/Bonn area is halfway between
Paris and Berlin, and not too far from Brussels. Plus there is an
airport for the people who want to fly.

Easyjet flies there in principle from Gatwick, but a popup window
announces upon testing that this route will be served again only from
September 27th. You could go from Luton to Dortmund (and then onwards
by different means of transport), but *testing* only from September
1st, d'oh! Oh, you could go to Paris with the Eurostar and meet Babe
there, before leaving from Paris together.

If Hannes is still here then we would probably go by car and could
pick up Hansi and Kris on the way, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Any pros or cons concerning that area of Germany?

I could of course invite you all to my place (in Berlin), very
central, three airports around, each of them not more than 40 minutes
away by public transport (and not much faster by car), Easyjet,
Ryanair, Air Berlin etc fly here from Stansted or Luton (my flight to
Stansted and back is 40 Euro btw). Three rooms, bathtub, DSL flatrate,
no pets currently, what more do you need?

Babe Bridou

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Jun 23, 2004, 12:50:08 PM6/23/04
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Gundemarie Scholz wrote:

> Tora wrote:
>> Mean of transport : car
>> Any weekend in july or august i think
>> Place to be; Brussels ? Central for everyone and easy for me :)

> Is that an invitation to your place?

>> Paris is good too, or maybe a town in Germany near the border, like
>> Koln or Aachen ?

My roommates would find it weird - they won't be on holidays on July -
that's too bad, cause it would have been fun to have you around: 30th
floor, gorgeous view over Paris, 3 rooms, huge living-room and even a
"fumoir" with couchs everywhere, comics, books, big CD collection, quad
JMLabs HiFi, and 1m-thick floor, walls and ceiling... a student's dream :)

> I looked at the map, and the Cologne/Bonn area is halfway between
> Paris and Berlin, and not too far from Brussels. Plus there is an
> airport for the people who want to fly.

> Easyjet flies there in principle from Gatwick, but a popup window
> announces upon testing that this route will be served again only from
> September 27th. You could go from Luton to Dortmund (and then onwards
> by different means of transport), but *testing* only from September
> 1st, d'oh! Oh, you could go to Paris with the Eurostar and meet Babe
> there, before leaving from Paris together.

Hmm, I wonder how much is the Eurostar ticket nowadays. There might be a
critical amount of people required to make the overall transport cost
cheaper with Eurostar&Car than with plane. Besides, AFAIK, as for
travelling from Paris to Koln, the fastest solution might well be the
THALYS train. Gotta check this: the problem is, as soon as the train
leaves France, it travels slower, or so I'm told ;)

Another thing to take into account is the 14th of July is holiday in
France, meaning a lot of people will travel back to Paris on Sunday 18th
(damn lazy french ;)) -> high traffic back to Paris -> plane for english
agd2ers on that week-end?

> If Hannes is still here then we would probably go by car and could
> pick up Hansi and Kris on the way, so that shouldn't be a problem.

> Any pros or cons concerning that area of Germany?

Pro : half-way for about everyone
Con : how long can we stay there (it would be bizarre to just spend an
afternoon together), and how much will the hotel cost? I don't have a
problem with spending money during my vacations (that's what vacations are
for, anyway) - but I suppose students & jobless people might find it
hard...

> I could of course invite you all to my place (in Berlin), very
> central, three airports around, each of them not more than 40 minutes
> away by public transport (and not much faster by car), Easyjet,
> Ryanair, Air Berlin etc fly here from Stansted or Luton (my flight to
> Stansted and back is 40 Euro btw). Three rooms, bathtub, DSL flatrate,
> no pets currently, what more do you need?

Hmm, on my wishlist, there is also:
_a Mrs Bridou
_a pair of warshrikes
_a cup of coffee
:)

Pros: It's Gunde's place!!! Free Europe HCL Hot Chocolate Giveaway, for
Tyrael's sake! :D
Cons: How much time would it take to travel? I mean, for those who don't
have much much more than a week-end?

Gundemarie Scholz

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Jun 23, 2004, 2:23:10 PM6/23/04
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Babe Bridou wrote:
> Gundemarie Scholz wrote:
>
> > Tora wrote:
> > > Mean of transport : car
> > > Any weekend in july or august i think
> > > Place to be; Brussels ? Central for everyone and easy for me :)
>
> > Is that an invitation to your place?
>
> > > Paris is good too, or maybe a town in Germany near the border,
> > > like Koln or Aachen ?
>
> it would have been fun to have you around: 30th floor, gorgeous
> view over Paris, 3 rooms, huge living-room

That sounds great!

> and even a "fumoir" with couchs everywhere

That doesn't. ):
I guess the word comes from "fumer"?

> > I looked at the map, and the Cologne/Bonn area is halfway between
> > Paris and Berlin, and not too far from Brussels. Plus there is an
> > airport for the people who want to fly.
>
> > Easyjet flies there in principle from Gatwick, but a popup window
> > announces upon testing that this route will be served again only
> > from September 27th. You could go from Luton to Dortmund (and
> > then onwards by different means of transport), but *testing* only
> > from September 1st, d'oh! Oh, you could go to Paris with the
> > Eurostar and meet Babe there, before leaving from Paris together.
>

> Pro : half-way for about everyone
> Con : how long can we stay there (it would be bizarre to just spend
> an afternoon together), and how much will the hotel cost? I don't
> have a problem with spending money during my vacations (that's what
> vacations are for, anyway) - but I suppose students & jobless
> people might find it hard...

I didn't think so much about a hotel, rather to rent an apartment or
little house for the weekend. I know the people from diablo2.de do it
regularly, somewhere in the middle of nowhere not too far away from
Aachen, so it should be possible. Plus my brother lives in Bonn, I
could ask him if he knows a cheap place.

> > I could of course invite you all to my place (in Berlin)[...]
> > [...] Three rooms,


> > bathtub, DSL flatrate, no pets currently, what more do you need?
>
> Hmm, on my wishlist, there is also:
> _a Mrs Bridou

Lots of girls live in Berlin, or do you want to bring your own?

> _a pair of warshrikes

Doable, definitely.

> _a cup of coffee

Even though I don't drink coffe I do have a coffee-machine.

> :)

Lots of smiles will be available for free.

> Cons: How much time would it take to travel? I mean, for those who
> don't have much much more than a week-end?

For Kris and Hansi: Less than 2h by car or train
For people in England: 1.5h by plane from London
From Brussels: 12h by bus, probably easier to fly
From Paris: 12h by bus, probably easier to fly
From Karlsruhe (near where Michael lives): 7h f you have a speedy car


Now the same thing for Cologne...

For Kris and Hansi: 4h by car or train
For people in England: 1.5h by plane from London
From Brussels: 7h by bus (estimated)
From Paris: 7h by bus (estimated)
From Karlsruhe (near where Michael lives): 3.5h (estimated)
From Berlin: 6h by car or train, 1h by plane


Hansi and I am both unemployed, Kris is a student, so of course at
least for us a lot depends on the price of this event. I will check
for a nice place around Cologne tomorrow and see if it is affordable.

Babe Bridou

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Jun 23, 2004, 5:49:01 PM6/23/04
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Gundemarie Scholz wrote:

> Babe Bridou wrote:

>>it would have been fun to have you around: 30th floor, gorgeous
>>view over Paris, 3 rooms, huge living-room
>
> That sounds great!

It is, but sadly I'll be moving to another place in september... I don't
expect to live in such an appartment anytime soon :(

>
>
>>and even a "fumoir" with couchs everywhere
>
>
> That doesn't. ):
> I guess the word comes from "fumer"?
>

It does, but in french it's more or less become a generic and rather
"classy" word to call a room where you can lean in and just forget about
everything. My roommate calls it "le Havre de Paix" ("The Peace Haven"),
and she doesn't smoke. I do, and she yells at me every time she can :)

> I didn't think so much about a hotel, rather to rent an apartment or
> little house for the weekend. I know the people from diablo2.de do it
> regularly, somewhere in the middle of nowhere not too far away from
> Aachen, so it should be possible. Plus my brother lives in Bonn, I
> could ask him if he knows a cheap place.

Could be a solution

>
>
>>>I could of course invite you all to my place (in Berlin)[...]
>>>[...] Three rooms,
>>>bathtub, DSL flatrate, no pets currently, what more do you need?
>>
>>Hmm, on my wishlist, there is also:
>>_a Mrs Bridou
> Lots of girls live in Berlin, or do you want to bring your own?

now where did I put mine...? ;)

>>_a pair of warshrikes
> Doable, definitely.

How much? Name the quest, I'm already interested in the reward!

<snip>


> Lots of smiles will be available for free.

That's definitely the best teaser for the week-end.

>>Cons: How much time would it take to travel? I mean, for those who
>>don't have much much more than a week-end?
>
>
> For Kris and Hansi: Less than 2h by car or train
> For people in England: 1.5h by plane from London
> From Brussels: 12h by bus, probably easier to fly
> From Paris: 12h by bus, probably easier to fly

gotta check the tickets price and availability

> From Karlsruhe (near where Michael lives): 7h f you have a speedy car
>
>
> Now the same thing for Cologne...
>
> For Kris and Hansi: 4h by car or train
> For people in England: 1.5h by plane from London
> From Brussels: 7h by bus (estimated)
> From Paris: 7h by bus (estimated)

same as above

> From Karlsruhe (near where Michael lives): 3.5h (estimated)
> From Berlin: 6h by car or train, 1h by plane
>
>
> Hansi and I am both unemployed, Kris is a student, so of course at
> least for us a lot depends on the price of this event. I will check
> for a nice place around Cologne tomorrow and see if it is affordable.
>

cheers, Gunde, you're doing great!

Hannes Brunner

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Jun 24, 2004, 9:06:45 AM6/24/04
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Of course I'm in too :).

---
Hannes

Gundemarie Scholz

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Jun 24, 2004, 12:48:51 PM6/24/04
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Gundemarie Scholz wrote:
> I will check
> for a nice place around Cologne tomorrow and see if it is
> affordable.

I have talked to my brother, he doesn't know a place like we are
looking for, neither does he know anybody who is on holiday and
willing to rent out their flat/house to us.

The currently biggest problem is: Most German states have school
holidays. There are houses called "Jugendgästehaus", they are run by
either some kind of youth hostel organisation or by a church. They are
quite cheap (~10 Euro per night and person), and you have to bring
your own food (kitchen available), bedclothes etc. There are one or
two available during the July weekends, but they are not even close to
Cologne, rather near Dresden. So I guess we need a different idea.

Brian Brunner

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Jun 25, 2004, 5:18:31 PM6/25/04
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