Full Set Bonus: Display Aura
Kinlaw
it's ugly).
I know that Trang's makes the char a vampire, and Nat's has a fade effect
(etherial looking).
IK, Aldur's and Griswolds, and Mavina's, all have "Display Aura" as a full
set bonus.
So is it the same aura effect as Tal's?
Anyone know of any screenshots? (I tried Arreat's, no go).
Anybody here ever spend some time playing a char with one of the elite sets
completed?
~misfit~
I've used complete Gris and M'av, both display the same "aura" as Tals
(which I've also used). I've played with an IK barb, same deal. I've used
Trang's, as you say, vampire but there's a bug that slows your cast rate
right down to base lvl or below. I couldn't think of a reason anyone would
bother with Aldur's.
HTH,
--
Shaun.
"Build a man a fire, and he`ll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and
he`ll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett, Jingo.
Patrick Vervoorn
Kinlaw <kinl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>IK, Aldur's and Griswolds, and Mavina's, all have "Display Aura" as a full
>set bonus.
>
>So is it the same aura effect as Tal's?
Yes, it looks the same. It does, however, do absolutely nothing
practical.
>Anyone know of any screenshots? (I tried Arreat's, no go).
Just try entering some games, in Hell preferably, and you should bump
into a few chars who have the full sets equipped, so you can see what it
looks like. Some use/abuse the Str bug of some sets, so that they're
shown with some parts of the set unequipped.
>Anybody here ever spend some time playing a char with one of the elite sets
>completed?
I've played an FO/CL Sorc who used a full Tal-Rasha set, and she was
pretty durable.
I've also played a Concentrate/WW Barb who used the Full IK set, and he
was also very durable.
Can't comment on the other sets; since I don't really play Druids or
Amazons.
I do play assassins, but only Trappers, and for that build Nat's set is
not good, so I had no reason to use it.
I also play Paladins, but for a Zealot/Smiter, Grisworld is easily
outclassed by uniques (most of which are also easier to find than
Grisworld's weapon, shield and helmet).
Finally, I also play Necromancers quite extensively, and also the full
TO set isn't too bad for one, it's also easily outclassed by uniques
which are again easier to find than TO's Helmet and Belt.
Regards,
Patrick.
Shiflet
"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick....@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
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> Just try entering some games, in Hell preferably, and you should bump
> into a few chars who have the full sets equipped,
Tal's maybe, but that's honestly the only full set I see with ANY regularity
at all, at least on West.
> I've played an FO/CL Sorc who used a full Tal-Rasha set, and she was
> pretty durable.
Tal's is fairly common, it's got fcr, skills, and the big MF boost, so a lot
of sorcs run it for that.
> Can't comment on the other sets; since I don't really play Druids or
> Amazons.
The set blows for druids. The damage is far too low for a melee druid, and
it doesn't have nearly enough +skills or FCR for a wind druid. You can get
much better windy gear with cheap stuff like a suicide branch, vipermagi,
and similar gear that's a lot more common than a set shadow plate is.
> I also play Paladins, but for a Zealot/Smiter, Grisworld is easily
> outclassed by uniques (most of which are also easier to find than
> Grisworld's weapon, shield and helmet).
I've actually seen a few FoH paladins that do okay with Griswolds. FoHers
don't need FCR, and while Gris won't have as much +skills as other straight
caster setups, they can fill all those sockets with 5/5 light facets gaining
a pretty high damage boost, while still getting the benefits of the set(high
resists and defense and such).
> Finally, I also play Necromancers quite extensively, and also the full
> TO set isn't too bad for one, it's also easily outclassed by uniques
> which are again easier to find than TO's Helmet and Belt.
Beyond that, if you're a poison or bonemancer, you're totally boned, cause
of the way the set reduces your FCR to negatives, which makes it WAY too bad
for one. For a summoner, it's no biggie, but a bonemancer or a poisonmancer
using full trangs is severely gimping their damage.
> Regards,
>
> Patrick.
Patrick Vervoorn
Shiflet <rshi...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick....@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
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>
>> Just try entering some games, in Hell preferably, and you should bump
>> into a few chars who have the full sets equipped,
>
>Tal's maybe, but that's honestly the only full set I see with ANY regularity
>at all, at least on West.
I've been in quite a few public games the last several days (trying to
offload items for pgems), and I did see quite a few Tal's sorcs, IK
barbs, TO necros, and at least 1 or 2 Griswold Paladins, Aldur's Druids
and Nat's assassins. Can't remember a Mav's amazon though.
>> I've played an FO/CL Sorc who used a full Tal-Rasha set, and she was
>> pretty durable.
>
>Tal's is fairly common, it's got fcr, skills, and the big MF boost, so a lot
>of sorcs run it for that.
It's definately ok.
>> Can't comment on the other sets; since I don't really play Druids or
>> Amazons.
>
>The set blows for druids. The damage is far too low for a melee druid, and
>it doesn't have nearly enough +skills or FCR for a wind druid. You can get
>much better windy gear with cheap stuff like a suicide branch, vipermagi,
>and similar gear that's a lot more common than a set shadow plate is.
Still, a lot of the less experienced players apparantly want and use it.
It's also a regular question in the 'items-for-pgems'-games: Aldur's
stuff, usually the armor of course.
>> I also play Paladins, but for a Zealot/Smiter, Grisworld is easily
>> outclassed by uniques (most of which are also easier to find than
>> Grisworld's weapon, shield and helmet).
>
>I've actually seen a few FoH paladins that do okay with Griswolds. FoHers
>don't need FCR, and while Gris won't have as much +skills as other straight
>caster setups, they can fill all those sockets with 5/5 light facets gaining
>a pretty high damage boost, while still getting the benefits of the set(high
>resists and defense and such).
At least another set which doesn't totally blow. ;)
>> Finally, I also play Necromancers quite extensively, and also the full
>> TO set isn't too bad for one, it's also easily outclassed by uniques
>> which are again easier to find than TO's Helmet and Belt.
>
>Beyond that, if you're a poison or bonemancer, you're totally boned, cause
>of the way the set reduces your FCR to negatives, which makes it WAY too bad
>for one. For a summoner, it's no biggie, but a bonemancer or a poisonmancer
>using full trangs is severely gimping their damage.
Since I usually max Bone Spirit (and the relevant synergy after that) on
my Summoning Necros, the set definately isn't good for my builds. ;)
Ciao, Patrick.
~misfit~
A couple ladders ago I had a very successful strafer wearing M'av's set, I
think it needed a couple IAS jewels, one each in the armour and diadem, to
hit the fastest strafe speed with the GMB and then she was quite the killing
machine. Easilly outclassed by the next strafer I built who used CoH, 3/2
Mat. bow Faith etc. though.
--
Shaun.
"Build a man a fire, and he`ll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and
he`ll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett, Jingo.
~misfit~
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Kinlaw wrote:
>> I've seen a sorc with full Tal's, and the aura it shows (personally,
>> I think it's ugly).
>>
>> I know that Trang's makes the char a vampire, and Nat's has a fade
>> effect (etherial looking).
>>
>> IK, Aldur's and Griswolds, and Mavina's, all have "Display Aura" as a
>> full set bonus.
>>
>> So is it the same aura effect as Tal's?
>>
>> Anyone know of any screenshots? (I tried Arreat's, no go).
>>
>> Anybody here ever spend some time playing a char with one of the
>> elite sets completed?
>
> I've used complete Gris and M'av, both display the same "aura" as Tals
> (which I've also used). I've played with an IK barb, same deal. I've
> used Trang's, as you say, vampire but there's a bug that slows your
> cast rate right down to base lvl or below. I couldn't think of a
> reason anyone would bother with Aldur's.
Should have mentioned, my full Gris' pally was a Freezalot and I used the
multitude of sockets the set provides for IAS, leech and 5/5 cold facets. He
was very playable. Alas, he was off ladder a couple resets ago and is long
gone due to not being refreshed. :-(
Kinlaw
> think it needed a couple IAS jewels, one each in the armour and diadem, to
> hit the fastest strafe speed with the GMB and then she was quite the
> killing machine. Easilly outclassed by the next strafer I built who used
> CoH, 3/2 Mat. bow Faith etc. though.
First of all, thanks for all the responses. It's fun to hear about some of
the things you haven't been able to do yourself in this game.
The only full sets I have ever equipped are Sigon's (who hasn't), and the
Arctic gear (great starter kit for a zon).
I had a pally use a combo of Civerbs and Milabregas. (Steep strength req for
that armor though, seeing as how you aren't going to use it that long). In
fact, I was tired of him not having enough strength yet to wear it when he
was young, so I traded some magefists for a strength charm. Sounds a little
one sided now but damn did I need that charm.
When you say 3/2 mat, you mean a + 3 to skills matriarchal bow with 2
sockets? What does the 2 signify?
Shiflet
"Kinlaw" <kinl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> When you say 3/2 mat, you mean a + 3 to skills matriarchal bow with 2
> sockets? What does the 2 signify?
Well, Faith has +1-2 all skills. So I assume a 3/2 Faith mat bow is a +2 all
skills Faith made in a mat bow with +3 bow/xbow skills
Kinlaw
"Shiflet" <rshi...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Shiflet.
Damn, that is now blindingly obvious, doh.
You see, I didn't know until yesterday (or I wasn't sure anyway) that you
could make a runeword in a zon bow with +skills.
What a combo.
RelMark
>
> Should have mentioned, my full Gris' pally was a Freezalot and I used the
> multitude of sockets the set provides for IAS, leech and 5/5 cold facets.
> He was very playable. Alas, he was off ladder a couple resets ago and is
> long gone due to not being refreshed. :-(
Is there a time limit beyond which old characters can't be retrieved?
My impression was that you could still get them back, so long as they
hadn't been deleted and their name hadn't been taken by someone else.
RelMark
~misfit~
I was under that impression too but when I went to go into some of my old
off-ladder accounts this week I got the "does not exist" message on all but
two. Of the two one had all but one of the characters permenantly expired
and with the other I managed to ressurect four of the characters. Probably
not coincidently, this was the last account I checked, 6 months ago.
I lost uber gear, eBotD Zerker, multiple Faiths, both GMBs and Mat bows as
well as a couple great bows for mercs, a Beast Zerker, said Gris' set,
CoH's, 'Nigmas, Infinity, Stormlash's, upped Hoz's Upped eth Zodded Arreats
and GA...... About 5 accounts of playing characers and 15 accounts of mules.
Not only that but my sentimental value first successful characters of each
type. I'd been refreshing them regularly until Bliz (apparently) removed the
need to. :-(
~misfit~
Correct. It had a perfect roll on the Fana aura too, lvl 15. A damn nice
bow.
RelMark
Oof. That certainly is an expensive way to discover this.
Thanks for the information.
RelMark
Magnate
>> A couple ladders ago I had a very successful strafer wearing M'av's set,
>> I think it needed a couple IAS jewels, one each in the armour and diadem,
>> to hit the fastest strafe speed with the GMB and then she was quite the
>> killing machine. Easilly outclassed by the next strafer I built who used
>> CoH, 3/2 Mat. bow Faith etc. though.
>
> First of all, thanks for all the responses. It's fun to hear about some of
> the things you haven't been able to do yourself in this game.
>
> The only full sets I have ever equipped are Sigon's (who hasn't), and the
> Arctic gear (great starter kit for a zon).
>
> I had a pally use a combo of Civerbs and Milabregas.
My favourite low-level set is Death's. It takes some twinking to equip the
sword at level six, but the damage is astounding, and the CBF is great too.
On a pally or barb I can cruise from A1 normal to A4 or A5 NM without
needing to change kit. (Having said that, unless I'm in a real hurry I'll
re-equip with an exceptional weapon at level 25 or so, which is usually A2
or A3 NM.)
If I don't have the twinks necessary to equip Death's, Civerb's is a decent
fallback at least until A1 or A2 NM. Bizarrely I've never seen Milabrega's
armour.
CC
~misfit~
And my favourite is most of the Angelic set with most of Hsarus' set.
I have four sets of CD keys and four machines reachable from my seat (three
laptops and a desktop
<http://test.internet-webmaster.de/upload/1236377909.jpg> [Thanks Gunde]). I
use Angelic armour, ammy and two rings with Hsarus boots and belt. That
leaves the hat, gloves and weapon slots free. I can make a necro who can run
three mules through to hell using my enchantress (and swapping out for the
mule at the crusial time, the 'chant lasts a fair while) by the time he's
about lvl 44. He starts with any bow, then graduates to Ravenclaw and on to
a Hel'ed Kuko. I haven't done this for a while but he uses a Topazed
Tarnhelm when he can and any IAS/leech gloves. (For a while I used Sigon's
hat and gloves [for even more AR that scales with clvl, IAS and LL] but they
required too much strength/too many strength charms and I soon found
different/better options.) The only skills he goes for are decrep and clay
golem/synergies. That serves to keep act end bosses quiet enough while he
plinks away at them.
The rusher is himself rushed through so that he's lvl 24 for normal Diablo
(summon resist and decrep) and then lvl 40 for nightmare ancients. I have a
different character bring the nules through parts of the difficulties,
mainly to save time although the rushing necro is capable. If I'm rushing
all the way with the necro he ends up a higher lvl and has to be lvl 24 for
Duriel. He's no pushover in a four-player game.
He uses a prayer merc who gets an Insight at lvl 27 (usually in act 1
nightmare). I've done this eight times last ladder, I had a full stable of
necro rushers, all of whom had provided 4 nm and hell hellforges (other
chars rush them through once they get to hell). I got some nice runes out of
it, a couple HoTOs, Duress, Oath..... (One of my favourite weapons was an
Oath eth cryptic sword. My pally would cruise through UT with it. Self-made
runewords rock, as does being different from all those Grief-wielding
cookie-cutters....)
The great thing about those two part-sets is that they both have huge AR
that scales with clvl, meaning I don't need dex to hit. (I keep some str/dex
charms for him to equip gear, everything goes into vitality.) Add to that
the splash effect from both bows carries the enchant damage over a small
area, making killing bunches of critters easier. The other great thing is
the MF on the Angelic rings (and Tarnhelm) which keeps the excercise from
being too boring, ensuring some nice low/mid level finds along the way.
The Ravenclaw had a sapphire in it and the armour an amethyst. A bonus to
all the forges is all the socket quests.
I've really only recently started playing this ladder and don't have all of
that gear yet to make rushers. Going by another thread I could well be too
late for this ladder. Oh well, at least I've made every one of my playing
characters drag three mules with them into each higher difficulty so far...
Hmmm, wandered a bit OT there....
Shiflet
> sockets? What does the 2 signify?
Well, Faith has +1-2 all skills. So I assume a 3/2 Faith mat bow is a +2 all