Beware of possible PK'r in Justus
Cindy
sometimes hangs around Justus and has been banned numerous times for causing
problems in the channel and one of our regulars Newbie's-Uncle was playing
with him and someone else from the channel along with his 8 year old Nephew,
when Kiki PK'd the child. Because of net splits, banning is not a viable
option to prevent this person from coming on the channel, but if you see him
there, please alert people that he is not to be trusted. Thanx.
--
Wild`
wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
ald
wrote:
Isn't Purple (aka PurpleDragonSOA) an avowed PK, too? He was hanging
around in Justus today. Also, the guy currently battling it out with
Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread, Paladjin or
something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
had been causing problems in Justus, and he has stated that he's a PK.
Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
ald
"Knowledge is Power"
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Cindy
those that want to ruin the fun for others. As for Paladjin, yes, he has
been there and he has played with some of our regulars, which is disturbing,
because he was told we formed the channel to protect ourselves from PK'rs,
he knew this and yet he still has come to the channel and had at least 2
games that I know of. I'm sure he can play co op. However, he's not
welcome as far as I am concerned, even if he can play co op, he's an
admitted PK. I'm sure he will understand that concept, he was the one that
told me that because I have a PKK character, (cheater) he could never play
with any of my characters, because I was a cheater. As for Purple, he has
not been playing with any of the group and he swears he is PK no more. So
far I have heard no reports to discredit that, and for the most part he's
been on his best behavior.
--
Wild`
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ald <10317...@compuserv.com> wrote in message
<3658fc00...@news.erols.com>...
SubSpace
>Ald, yes you are correct, once a channel gets popular, there are always
>those that want to ruin the fun for others. As for Paladjin, yes, he has
>been there and he has played with some of our regulars, which is
disturbing,
Uhm I don't know what you're talking about exactly, Paladijn is not a PK.
He's a regular on NLD-1 where I got to know him and I never seen him PK
anyone nor have I heard such a thing from others.
-SubSpace- Level 39 Warrior (not intirely legit)
-=HellFire=- Level 41 Sorcerer
--Scorpion-- Level 35 Rogue
Species`8472` Level 36 Warrior
--FireStarter-- Level 19 Sorcerer
-=Link=- Level 17 Warrior (purist)
(All the rest is legit)
Stalker~||AE||
In case you have missed it, the person in question and I have been
exchanging rather heated posts. Paladjin wrote this in response to a point I
made:
"Hey smiley...a cheat alters the program, I only cheat when being a PK,
checking
out my prey's stuff...
So I didn't recommend any cheat...and I never will, as I feel it ruins the
game,
but once again, stick to the subject".
Pretty much sums it up as far as Im concerend. Maybe Diablo is just too
challenging for him.
Stalker~||AE||
SubSpace wrote in message <73bb5b$ed4$1...@news.accu.uu.nl>...
SubSpace
>"Hey smiley...a cheat alters the program, I only cheat when being a PK,
>checking out my prey's stuff... So I didn't recommend any cheat...and I
>never will, as I feel it ruins the game, but once again, stick to the
subject".
>Pretty much sums it up as far as Im concerend. Maybe Diablo is just too
>challenging for him.
You guys take things too literal.. Paladijn explained later this quote
wasn't serious..
Stalker~||AE||
dont.....totally up to you.
Stalker~||AE||
SubSpace wrote in message <73beml$evg$1...@news.accu.uu.nl>...
paladijn
ald wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:08:27 -0600, "Cindy" <wild...@XXXdatastar.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Please be on the defense of kiki_the_cRazy account #2293256, this person
> >sometimes hangs around Justus and has been banned numerous times for causing
> >problems in the channel and one of our regulars Newbie's-Uncle was playing
> >with him and someone else from the channel along with his 8 year old Nephew,
> >when Kiki PK'd the child. Because of net splits, banning is not a viable
> >option to prevent this person from coming on the channel, but if you see him
> >there, please alert people that he is not to be trusted. Thanx.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Wild`
> >wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
> >
>
> Isn't Purple (aka PurpleDragonSOA) an avowed PK, too? He was hanging
> around in Justus today. Also, the guy currently battling it out with
> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread,
battling it out...I suggest you refer to the thread "Angry Diablo .... Big Puff
Ball" instead of making trouble about such things...I guess I'lll meet one of you
pricks with a severely hacked up char claiming this and that and ready to PK
me...just to bad that I don'tplay wiht cheaters/hackers...that's what the thread
was about...Stalker just evaded questions and the thread became bigger and
bigger...
If I state there that PK(K) are the same to me because they both hack up their
char and ruin a fine game (as are all cheaters)...and suddenly I get burned as
being a PK..yeah right....
> Paladjin or
> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
> had been causing problems in Justus,
I.e. got into a discussion on cheating with cindy...I backed out when cindy
notified me that justus had both cheaters and legits and that she felt
offended...As I wasn't in a public channel..that's called respect..something
justus claims to be built on.
Cindy choose to continu the flamewar for a while after which I played two games
with legits (one of them had hackes, but the other co-opper form justus asked him
to use his spare armor instead, when I informed him I had to leave because the
other was using dupes, my deepest respect for this man (unfortunately I have
forgotten his name, plz remind me)).
These were nice games as I have with most other LEGIT player on b.net.
I dislike people for their cheating, not for their character...they can be nice
guys and good friends...however I will not play with them and will ask them to
play legit as I feel that cheating ruins the game.
> and he has stated that he's a PK.
Did I?
> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
>
I would call someone that blames someone from somehting untrue indeed
untrustworthy...shouldn'y you use facts to support your claims ALD?
Regards.
--palad
paladijn
Cindy wrote:
> Ald, yes you are correct, once a channel gets popular, there are always
> those that want to ruin the fun for others. As for Paladjin,
learn to spell cyndi
> yes, he has
> been there and he has played with some of our regulars, which is disturbing,
why??
> because he was told we formed the channel to protect ourselves from PK'rs,
> he knew this and yet he still has come to the channel and had at least 2
> games that I know of. I'm sure he can play co op.
good, I'm glad you see that
> However, he's not
> welcome as far as I am concerned, even if he can play co op, he's an
> admitted PK.
Am I?
> I'm sure he will understand that concept, he was the one that
> told me that because I have a PKK character, (cheater) he could never play
> with any of my characters, because I was a cheater.
I stated I don't play with people ising cheats in a game..if you walked in with
a 100% legit char with a name I don't know I wouldn't ask you to leave and we
would play a normal co-op without this crap
> As for Purple, he has
> not been playing with any of the group and he swears he is PK no more. So
> far I have heard no reports to discredit that, and for the most part he's
> been on his best behavior.
discredit
respect
truthfullness
You don't show much of these...all I see that my name is smothered because of
some personal disagreements on the usage of cheats on battle.net
Regards,
--paladijn
>
> --
> Wild`
> wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
>
> ald <10317...@compuserv.com> wrote in message
> <3658fc00...@news.erols.com>...
> >On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:08:27 -0600, "Cindy" <wild...@XXXdatastar.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Please be on the defense of kiki_the_cRazy account #2293256, this person
> >>sometimes hangs around Justus and has been banned numerous times for
> causing
> >>problems in the channel and one of our regulars Newbie's-Uncle was playing
> >>with him and someone else from the channel along with his 8 year old
> Nephew,
> >>when Kiki PK'd the child. Because of net splits, banning is not a viable
> >>option to prevent this person from coming on the channel, but if you see
> him
> >>there, please alert people that he is not to be trusted. Thanx.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Wild`
> >>wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
> >>
> >
> >Isn't Purple (aka PurpleDragonSOA) an avowed PK, too? He was hanging
> >around in Justus today. Also, the guy currently battling it out with
> >Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread, Paladjin or
> >something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
> >had been causing problems in Justus, and he has stated that he's a PK.
> >Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
> >things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
> >
paladijn
first..stalker's vain reaction...
> Since you are an admitted PK, I certainly see why you would be angry with
> me. Its been my experience that PKs lie through their teeth and cheat too.
> Ill bet theres a Dreamflange ring on both of your characters hands. I can
> count on one hand the times Ive came across a legit PK and that was when
> 1.07 or any of the versions, were new at one time. The PKs were hiding under
> the rocks from whence they came until Godmode appeared. You have my
> sympathy. Since it is apparent that you refuse to see any reasoning beyond
> your own warped thoughts, I will not be responding to your posts. Ive made
> my points perfectly clear and others that I do care about know the score.
>
> Stalker~||AE||
>
>
my reaction....
> You are a moron, you don't answer questions, drift away form the subject, and
> now because you are seemingly illiterate you think you can call me a
> PK/liar/cheater? And you dare call other people immature??
> for your information..I started playing online when v1.07 was released (to be
> exact two days afterwards...) before that I was condemned to LAN-play...
>
> Regards,
> --palad
>
> P.S. I must admit that the word "would" doesn't appear in my posting as it
> should have..I have no idea why it disappeared
>
a following post on THIS (me being a PK) subject...
> hehehe when I kill someone I apologize and res him or offer a TP to get down
> again, I even carried around gear of people that dropped out giving it back atr
> a later time, you would of course not do such things as the only thing you worry
> about is your sour smart@ss doesn't get bothered by PK's...unfortunately for you
> I only have 4 kills on my name, and died 2-3 times at the hand of a friend that
> shot me with friendly fire. You seem so obsessed with PKs that you don't care to
> give everyone hacks to "protect" themselves and helping them in PK(K)
> tactics...of course you don't care about hacks, they give you joy, they make you
> great, people visit your page for it...just don't forget that PKs got their
> power through those cheats that you're handing out to everyone...
>
And ended with being rather unkind...my apologies, but how would you feel if
someone tells you that you should accept cheating and that you are PK...
I'm not looking for a flamewar..I'm looking for ration
> You're still evading questions, thinking you are so good commenting on others
> Yes I'm a smart@ss telling someone to play legit, but you're also telling people
> to cheat in order to prevent PK....I call that forcing a "playing style" upon
> others. So you're telling ME I'm wrong but good old stalky is right by doing the
> same! Once again you totally ignore questions...I don't know what you're trying
> to achieve with that...I'm open to you, explaining my points, you reacted on
> that in a prickish way, so be it, but at least have the guts to answer my
> questions as well
>
my point was proven in these points, read if you wish to know why *I* would not
be the liar. I could spam much more on this onto this post..but I suppose you'd
do best in reading yourself then judging from someone that chat cheats and
PK(K)'s
you can find the thread "Angry Diablo .... Big Puff Ball" if you're up to it...
but be carefull I brought a buddy to attack stalker (according to him) and now
another "buddy" (whom I identical never met in a real game) aka Jarulf has
joined in...however...througout the whole post stalker is evading questions and
now I'm a PK...I call that respect, justice, and truthfullness.... I hope there
are any better people in Justus, more then the ones I played with...
Regards,
paladijn
Stalker~||AE|| wrote:
> Hey SubSpace,
>
> In case you have missed it, the person in question and I have been
> exchanging rather heated posts. Paladjin wrote this in response to a point I
> made:
>
> "Hey smiley...a cheat alters the program, I only cheat when being a PK,
> checking
> out my prey's stuff...
> So I didn't recommend any cheat...and I never will, as I feel it ruins the
> game,
> but once again, stick to the subject".
>
> Pretty much sums it up as far as Im concerend. Maybe Diablo is just too
> challenging for him.
>
> Stalker~||AE||
>
> SubSpace wrote in message <73bb5b$ed4$1...@news.accu.uu.nl>...
> >Hi Cindy,
> >
> >>Ald, yes you are correct, once a channel gets popular, there are always
> >>those that want to ruin the fun for others. As for Paladjin, yes, he has
> >>been there and he has played with some of our regulars, which is
> >disturbing,
> >
> >Uhm I don't know what you're talking about exactly, Paladijn is not a PK.
> >He's a regular on NLD-1 where I got to know him and I never seen him PK
> >anyone nor have I heard such a thing from others.
> >
paladijn
Fuzzy_paladin's cheater's paradise, all the PK tools you need, get them here
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
Stalker~||AE|| wrote:
> Ask him about Fuzzy_Paladin or whatever his characters name is. Or
> dont.....totally up to you.
>
> Stalker~||AE||
>
> SubSpace wrote in message <73beml$evg$1...@news.accu.uu.nl>...
> >Hi Stalker,
> >
> >>"Hey smiley...a cheat alters the program, I only cheat when being a PK,
> >>checking out my prey's stuff... So I didn't recommend any cheat...and I
> >>never will, as I feel it ruins the game, but once again, stick to the
> >subject".
> >
> >>Pretty much sums it up as far as Im concerend. Maybe Diablo is just too
> >>challenging for him.
> >
> >You guys take things too literal.. Paladijn explained later this quote
> >wasn't serious..
> >
Mike Muizebelt
ald wrote:
> . Also, the guy currently battling it out with
> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread, Paladjin or
> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
> had been causing problems in Justus, and he has stated that he's a PK.
> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
>
>
For my two pence worth of thought,
I've played with Paladijn on numerous occasions in co-op games. He definitely is
no PK, nor a cheat. In fact he almost obsessed with being legit and checks out
people with Diablo sight to see if they are legit. If they are not, he asks them
to leave, if they don't he is the one that leaves.
It's sad to see that someone with a good name in Diablo Retail NLD-1 gets some
dirt here.
Mike Muizebelt
LvL 40 warrior Mousehill
LvL 44 Mage Magic-Mouse
LvL 24 Rogue Mousevalley (RIP)
Cindy
this crap alive??? You don't even have the nerve to use your own e'mail
address. Get a grip, sheesh. Name calling, nice. You are truly the mature
one. But then, I discovered that along with several others in the channel,
so no surprise to me. I won't be drawn any farther into your little desire
for arguement. You call people names, you missuse their names in a
demeaning way, basically you are a troll. You may have valid points, you
even have some I agree with, but you are talking in circles and being very
nasty about it, making new threads so that you can see yourself in print. If
you aren't a PK, trust me, I'd never want to play with such a jerk as you
have proven yourself to be anyway. AND as I said on the channel, it's your
loss, I play a totally fair co op, and legit game, I don't need nor want
your support, I only wish to no longer see your threads, therefore you are
the newest member of my killfile ***PLONK***
ahhhhh the alkaseltzer of usenet ;)
--
Wild`
wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
paladijn <"paladijn"@unforgettable.:).com> wrote in message
<73c03g$c...@news3.euro.net>...
>
>
>ald wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:08:27 -0600, "Cindy" <wild...@XXXdatastar.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Please be on the defense of kiki_the_cRazy account #2293256, this
person
>> >sometimes hangs around Justus and has been banned numerous times for
causing
>> >problems in the channel and one of our regulars Newbie's-Uncle was
playing
>> >with him and someone else from the channel along with his 8 year old
Nephew,
>> >when Kiki PK'd the child. Because of net splits, banning is not a
viable
>> >option to prevent this person from coming on the channel, but if you see
him
>> >there, please alert people that he is not to be trusted. Thanx.
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Wild`
>> >wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
>> >
>>
>> Isn't Purple (aka PurpleDragonSOA) an avowed PK, too? He was hanging
>> around in Justus today. Also, the guy currently battling it out with
>> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread,
>
>battling it out...I suggest you refer to the thread "Angry Diablo .... Big
Puff
>Ball" instead of making trouble about such things...I guess I'lll meet one
of you
>pricks with a severely hacked up char claiming this and that and ready to
PK
>me...just to bad that I don'tplay wiht cheaters/hackers...that's what the
thread
>was about...Stalker just evaded questions and the thread became bigger and
>bigger...
>If I state there that PK(K) are the same to me because they both hack up
their
>char and ruin a fine game (as are all cheaters)...and suddenly I get burned
as
>being a PK..yeah right....
>
>> Paladjin or
>> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
>> had been causing problems in Justus,
>
>I.e. got into a discussion on cheating with cindy...I backed out when cindy
>notified me that justus had both cheaters and legits and that she felt
>offended...As I wasn't in a public channel..that's called
respect..something
>justus claims to be built on.
>Cindy choose to continu the flamewar for a while after which I played two
games
>with legits (one of them had hackes, but the other co-opper form justus
asked him
>to use his spare armor instead, when I informed him I had to leave because
the
>other was using dupes, my deepest respect for this man (unfortunately I
have
>forgotten his name, plz remind me)).
>These were nice games as I have with most other LEGIT player on b.net.
>I dislike people for their cheating, not for their character...they can be
nice
>guys and good friends...however I will not play with them and will ask them
to
>play legit as I feel that cheating ruins the game.
>
>> and he has stated that he's a PK.
>
>Did I?
>
>> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
>> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
>>
>
>I would call someone that blames someone from somehting untrue indeed
>untrustworthy...shouldn'y you use facts to support your claims ALD?
>
>Regards.
>--palad
>
>>
paladijn
If you would have taken the time to look at the tread, and what others
mentioned..all you base this on is an ar
argument we had on cheaters, like I'm having with stalker now...furthermore if
you look at post dates you can se that is is stalker who started posting here in
this thread, NOT me. You don't mind cheaters, I do and I'm not going to hide it
for your sake or for anyone that cheats. Now suddenly (oh wee can't make any
good point) I'm a Player Killer / cheater / liar / troll.
Sure...but where is your credebility with all this? You acting as PKK can easily
join a game and attempt to kill me for me being a PK. sure...how many innoncent
have you killed this way? or any other "hero" that protects the poor legits and
minor cheaters from those hidious Cheating PKs.
I don't care if our views are different, that's what discussions are born from,
but that still is no raison to throw dirt at someones name..especially not with
stalkers selective cut&paste
Regards,
--paladijn, Pig Killer and proud of it!
Time Goddess
post.
Cindy
that it was a typo, then goes on later to indicate that again, which now I'm
assuming was some sort of jab at humor. I spend a lot of my free time in
Justus, trying to not only keep the peace but make it a place where people
feel comfortable coming to meet others for games. Also, understand that due
to newsfeeds being the way they are, we don't all see every post. I
directly asked him in my comment to him in that thread if he was a PK, I
never got a straight answer.
--
Wild`
wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
Mike Muizebelt wrote in message <36599091...@culinair.com>...
>
>
>ald wrote:
>
>> . Also, the guy currently battling it out with
>> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread, Paladjin or
>> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
>> had been causing problems in Justus, and he has stated that he's a PK.
>> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
>> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
>>
>>
>
Time Goddess
Cindy
this post, so I UN killfiled you to see it. You told me this morning when I
offered to retract my statement that you said you were a PK (which sorry,
but you DID, so it was a typo, I'm not in control of your fingers, geeze,
does someone ALWAYS have to be the blame for you?) You can dish it out, but
you certainly cannot take it. I did not crown you PK, you did that
yourself. Glad to hear you aren't. As for your debates with Stalker et al,
I don't really care, my concern is for the people out there that need
information, and I will continue to provide it. I understand you called me
ignorant and prejudice earlier today, that was certainly big of you. You
cannot seem to make your point with cursing, calling names, and belittling.
I do not care one wit what you think, you've proven yourself to me in
conversation to be very close-minded and argumentative. I have been civil
to you, unlike you to me. You seem to want to carry this rant of yours on
forever, for what? If you name was sullied, I'm sorry, again, YOU posted
that paragraph, not me, I had no control over what you wrote.
Speaking of not caring, you don't know me, and obviously have not hung
around the newsgroup long enough to know that I also spend hours a day
helping people. And no, I don't turn them onto .dats and trainers. I offer
them the relative safety of Justus and help coordinate games so that new
folks can find good co oppers to play with. Don't think that you are the
only one out there trying to do some good. You've misjudged a lot of us
horribly. And just so it makes you feel better, I have never PKK'd a PK,
never. I have a character that I take into games sometimes, and annoy
godmoded PK's, they try to kill me, they can't, but at least they are tied
up with me, instead of trashing some newbies game. I've never taken that
character into a legit game, and I don't use hacks when playing co op. I'm
sure I really don't care for *cheaters* much more than you do. If not for
the cheats, a PK wouldn't stand a chance against my Rogue, I duel with her,
she's totally legit and I do very well. You don't know me at all, but yet
you assume so much. JUST because I am tolerant of cheaters. Would you like
to know why? Because I feel like if a person chooses to use cheats, what
ever kind, for what ever reason, it's their decision to make, not mine. I
know the info, where to point them, and I do. You seem to want to browbeat
them into submission or something, lighten up!!!!
It seems to me like one of two things:
Either you really want to continue this tirade, endless arguments,
namecalling, etc
OR, you have, like several others, gotten into it so deeply now that backing
out seems a loss of face.
That's a shame, because if not for your ranting, I'm sure you'd find a lot
of people actually agree with you. I do not advocate cheating, I teach
people to play co op. HOWEVER, I will not browbeat them into submission, if
they want to cheat, then that's fine, just don't play with me. There are
others on Justus and the ng that do cheat, with no qualms and they play
together nicely. There are varying degrees of cheating, and I think that is
the point that is missed here. A person with a Lightforge is not
necessarily the guy with the 255 charge APOC that's going to ruin your co op
game. When I first got on Battlenet someone gave me a Veil of Steel. I
wore it proudly, and gamed and learned co op and it was later that I learned
it couldn't be legit. That did not make me a bad person NOR did it screw up
someone's game. I played co op and died right there beside the rest. I
eventually retired that character and started a new rogue, but I learned a
lot of lessons. It's that gentle teaching that I received that I try to
pass along. I'm not judgmental, just helpful.
I really don't care what you think of me personally and to that end, I'm
done trying to reason with you. If you cannot see that people here are
nice, helpful and gently guiding then you are blind to the truth. I
personally think hitting people with a brick the way you seem to advocate is
unnecessary. I'm sorry you are so hate filled. You know, I truly don't
even hate the PK's not all of them, I dislike the ones that use cheats, and
even the legit ones that lure newbies and ruin their fun. There just isn't
a lot for me to like about the mentality of someone who would deliberately
set out to kill another player without consent. I do know some nice
cheaters however, I just don't game with them, but I do call them my
friends.
Once more just so you UNDERSTAND....it's not your opinion on cheaters that
sucks, it's your manner of goading people because they may be cheaters.
There are a lot of people here who share your opinion, they are just not so
rude as to make snide comments to people who are cheaters or who are wanting
information here. THAT is what drew so much ire. You were rude, and you
are still being rude, get a clue.
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paladijn <"paladijn"@unforgettable.:).com> wrote in message
<73d04q$4...@news3.euro.net>...
>
>
>Cindy wrote:
>
>> All we had to go on was HIS statement that he was a pk, apparently he
says
>> that it was a typo, then goes on later to indicate that again, which now
I'm
>> assuming was some sort of jab at humor.
>
>Sure you don't give a fuck, do you? As long as nobody touches those
cheaters...
>
>> I spend a lot of my free time in
>> Justus, trying to not only keep the peace but make it a place where
people
>> feel comfortable coming to meet others for games.
>
>Nice if people get burned as PK, just because they have a different opinion
then
>you. did it ever come up to you that you could just ask? You could explain
that
>there are certain rules if someone violates them in "your" chatroom?
>
>> Also, understand that due
>> to newsfeeds being the way they are, we don't all see every post. I
>> directly
>
>Either direct(time) or directly(through Email) I have seen none of those,
I
>accidentally stumbled across this thread by looking for palad...remember
the
>post you didn't reply to?? you did reply to this post..someone that tells
you
>you are making insane remarks about a person... of course you don't give a
fuck,
>you probably also don't give a fuck that I spend several hours rescueing
people,
>helping people and trying to let cheaters make the choice between cheating
and
>legitism... and who am I? just a person that is intolerant to cheaters, to
which
>you claimed to belong..so that makes me that bad that I'm a PK...wow how
many
>innocent have gotten the mark PK by you and your fellow PK(K)s ...
intolerant
>right? respect right? All that you can do is read an illogical post and
don't
>check it, even after several comments by people about the wrongness of your
>ideas towards me... what you're also not telling here is that we had a
>conversation earlier this day...Once again *I* got comment for restarting
old
>threads in a new one, since you decided for whatever reason to reply to
another
>post ...if you would have taken the time to check dats on posts you would
see
>that stalky posted his posts here FAR earlier then mine...and still blame
me..of
>course..i'm am the so much hated PK...I have four ears of people I killed
by
>accident and 2-3 people have my ear in that way..wow...i'm a top legit
PK...and
>yes stalker, it sucks I can't kill more thanks to moe's hacks...your hatred
for
>PKs has brought you both to an intolerance ... and yet you proclaim how
wrong I
>am because we have different opinions on cheating...
>I'm rude/PK/intolerant/arrogant/smartass/troll/cheater/etc. right...and
what are
>you? GOD?
>
>> asked him in my comment to him in that thread if he was a PK, I
>> never got a straight answer.
>
>Indeed, you even never have gotten any answer, as I only found one posting
by
>you that was a reply to Jarulf. must be the newsreader, eh? besides as it
was
>said in the following post I didn't intend to post it that way that was
stated
>several times, though no reaction by you..you just follow things that suit
your
>mind, how tolerant...
>
>Regards,
>palad
paladijn
Dark Half
>
> Yes you're tolerant (to cheaters) yes you're ignorant, yes you're prejudiced
> If you would have taken the time to look at the tread, and what others
> mentioned..all you base this on is an ar
> argument we had on cheaters, like I'm having with stalker now...furthermore if
> you look at post dates you can se that is is stalker who started posting here in
> this thread, NOT me. You don't mind cheaters, I do and I'm not going to hide it
> for your sake or for anyone that cheats. Now suddenly (oh wee can't make any
> good point) I'm a Player Killer / cheater / liar / troll.
> Sure...but where is your credebility with all this? You acting as PKK can easily
> join a game and attempt to kill me for me being a PK. sure...how many innoncent
> have you killed this way? or any other "hero" that protects the poor legits and
> minor cheaters from those hidious Cheating PKs.
> I don't care if our views are different, that's what discussions are born from,
> but that still is no raison to throw dirt at someones name..especially not with
> stalkers selective cut&paste
You're the one who all but outright said "I'm a PKer" in another post.
Then you tried to feed us some BS about your news reader dropping a
word. Riiiiight, I've seen lots of news readers that only drop one word
from a post.
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[Hasan-chop!]
Paladijn, first of all, watch the language. I'm sure you are capable of
restraining yourself from using obscenities for the sake of the children
that read this group.
Second, about 3/4s of your responses there were totally unrelated to
what was quoted above. It looks as though you are not even reading and
just babbling on.
Finally, chill out or get the hell out. Period. Walk away from the
flamewars you seem so intent on pressing or walk away from the NG.
paladijn
yes I know that I'm rude/namecalling/non-tolerable to cheats and you are the
godess that does everything in the way it should be..(iow good)
I don't care about this crap you write down here and the crap that you mentioned
in our discussions ..
I told you (for as far as you could hear) and the others what I think oy you and
WHY... you just have to wonder why someone starts acting rude...probably also
why I got banned from justus for just being there...if that's the way you define
co-op and anti-pk, so be it...if that's what you call non-prejudiced so be it
just some qoutes from our beloved cindy
After five minutes...my appearence is noted
*Evul`Wild* why are you hear, i've told you you are not welcome
[No you hadn't..you've told me I wasn't welcome when I started ranting at
cheaters, iou t of repsect I will refrain from that and did that]
*Evul`Wild* here even
-> *Evul`Wild* you said otherwise then what you posted on the BB...I said I
wasn't going to rant aginst cheaters here..I haven't yet..so why would you care?
*Evul`Wild* you're here just to irritate people and you damn well know it
[talking about prejudice, actually I was looking for a game..what other reason
would I have to be there?]
*Evul`Wild* what is it with you???
*Evul`Wild* do you not have anything better to do?
[I was going to a game here..hence set my chat on away]
*Evul`Wild* are you wanting me to kick or ban you so you can whine about that in
the newsgroup too?
*Evul`Wild* cute you are away now??
-> *Evul`Wild* I don't care what you think...you start acting like the 30 year
old that you're supposed to be
-> *Evul`Wild* guess why
*Evul`Wild* oh pleaze
*Evul`Wild* where do you get off telling me how to act?
-> *Evul`Wild* if you're not prejudiced don't fight our personal vendetta on
this, though I know how much you would like that
*Evul`Wild* look, you are only here to upset people and you know that, you
aren't even using a character
["I understand you called me ignorant and prejudice earlier today, that was
certainly big of you."]
*Evul`Wild* i have the harmony of this room to consider, and after that shit you
posted again and again in the ng, you obviously care not for our channel
*Evul`Wild* and obviously it has started
*Evul`Wild* please leave
*Evul`Wild* i'm asking you nicely to leave and not return
-> *Evul`Wild* how could you know taht I'm here to upset people...that's what I
call prejudice..the same you reject..now stop this nonsense
*Evul`Wild* excuse me? your very presense here has upset people
*Evul`Wild* i will ask you again to leave are you refusing?
*Evul`Wild* People are comlaining that you are here
<Evul`Wild> paladijn: you may write this up in the newsgroup if you like
[no problem, that can be solved]
<Evul`Wild> I asked you nicely to leave, and you have not
<Evul`Wild> You are disrupting the harmony of our channel by being here
<Evul`Wild> your very presence is annoying people
<Evul`Wild> no he isnt Mike
<Evul`Wild> he just has that away on
<Evul`Wild> he's not away
<Evul`Wild> so...since you wont leave and my duty is to uphold the harmony
here...
paladijn was banned by Evul`Wild.
Nice harmony...for people with such attitudes...my apologies to the ones with
whom I've played, I can't get in anymore unless I reinstall Diablo. The
hypocrite way in which Cindy sees it necesary to block my rude/arrogant
personality out of the channel...I hope you're not next for speaking up in a
small thread, which wasn't supposed to be a big deal at all, and that turned out
likewise..we got back where we started...hence I conclude stalkers and cindy's
rantings totally unnecesary and extremely hypocrite...I don't have to be
unbanned for the channel justus, my fun has already been spoiled by vain people,
who knew better anyway...
We'll see what the future brings...I'll meet plenty of other legits in other
games, alaz
Regards,
paladijn
Cindy wrote:
> Good grief, get a grip will ya???? someone on the channel just told me of
> this post, so I UN killfiled you to see it. You told me this morning when I
> offered to retract my statement that you said you were a PK (which sorry,
> but you DID, so it was a typo, I'm not in control of your fingers, geeze,
> does someone ALWAYS have to be the blame for you?) You can dish it out, but
> you certainly cannot take it. I did not crown you PK, you did that
> yourself. Glad to hear you aren't. As for your debates with Stalker et al,
> I don't really care, my concern is for the people out there that need
> information, and I will continue to provide it. I understand you called me
> ignorant and prejudice earlier today, that was certainly big of you. You
> cannot seem to make your point with cursing, calling names, and belittling.
> I do not care one wit what you think, you've proven yourself to me in
> conversation to be very close-minded and argumentative. I have been civil
> to you, unlike you to me. You seem to want to carry this rant of yours on
> forever, for what? If you name was sullied, I'm sorry, again, YOU posted
> that paragraph, not me, I had no control over what you wrote.
>
> Speaking of not caring, you don't know me,
so..do YOU know me? I give you reasons...I don't hear you about that...so I'm
giving them again with your permision
> and obviously have not hung
> around the newsgroup long enough to know that I also spend hours a day
> helping people. And no, I don't turn them onto .dats and trainers.
where did I say this?? plz qoute..you're prejudiced,admit it
> I offer
> them the relative safety of Justus and help coordinate games so that new
> folks can find good co oppers to play with. Don't think that you are the
> only one out there trying to do some good. You've misjudged a lot of us
> horribly
and so did you
> . And just so it makes you feel better, I have never PKK'd a PK,
> never. I have a character that I take into games sometimes, and annoy
> godmoded PK's, they try to kill me, they can't, but at least they are tied
> up with me, instead of trashing some newbies game. I've never taken that
> character into a legit game, and I don't use hacks when playing co op. I'm
> sure I really don't care for *cheaters* much more than you do. If not for
> the cheats, a PK wouldn't stand a chance against my Rogue, I duel with her,
> she's totally legit and I do very well. You don't know me at all, but yet
> you assume so much. JUST because I am tolerant of cheaters. Would you like
> to know why? Because I feel like if a person chooses to use cheats, what
> ever kind, for what ever reason, it's their decision to make, not mine. I
> know the info, where to point them, and I do. You seem to want to browbeat
> them into submission or something, lighten up!!!!
>
> It seems to me like one of two things:
> Either you really want to continue this tirade, endless arguments,
> namecalling, etc
> OR, you have, like several others, gotten into it so deeply now that backing
> out seems a loss of face.
I backed out already... you knew this, then why do you continue in TWO of the
three discussions we had?
> That's a shame, because if not for your ranting,
if it wasn't for your hypocrisy these posts weren't written
> I'm sure you'd find a lot
> of people actually agree with you. I do not advocate cheating, I teach
> people to play co op. HOWEVER, I will not browbeat them into submission, if
> they want to cheat, then that's fine, just don't play with me. There are
> others on Justus and the ng that do cheat, with no qualms and they play
> together nicely. There are varying degrees of cheating, and I think that is
> the point that is missed here. A person with a Lightforge is not
> necessarily the guy with the 255 charge APOC that's going to ruin your co op
> game. When I first got on Battlenet someone gave me a Veil of Steel. I
> wore it proudly, and gamed and learned co op and it was later that I learned
> it couldn't be legit. That did not make me a bad person NOR did it screw up
> someone's game. I played co op and died right there beside the rest. I
> eventually retired that character and started a new rogue, but I learned a
> lot of lessons. It's that gentle teaching that I received that I try to
> pass along. I'm not judgmental, just helpful.
I know and I merely stated that I only play with legits..if you're not we won't
play
> I really don't care what you think of me personally and to that end, I'm
> done trying to reason with you.
reason me??
> If you cannot see that people here are
> nice, helpful and gently guiding then you are blind to the truth.
> I personally think hitting people with a brick the way you seem to advocate is
>
> unnecessary. I'm sorry you are so hate filled.
of course we aren't hatefulled towards each other
> You know, I truly don't
> even hate the PK's not all of them, I dislike the ones that use cheats, and
> even the legit ones that lure newbies and ruin their fun. There just isn't
> a lot for me to like about the mentality of someone who would deliberately
> set out to kill another player without consent. I do know some nice
> cheaters however, I just don't game with them, but I do call them my
> friends.
It might suprise you that I do talk to cheaters and yes, they can be nice
people, however I DO NOT PLAY with them that's all I stated...
> Once more just so you UNDERSTAND....it's not your opinion on cheaters that
> sucks, it's your manner of goading people because they may be cheaters.
may be? either you are or are not
> There are a lot of people here who share your opinion, they are just not so
> rude as to make snide comments to people who are cheaters or who are wanting
> information here.
Read the original post...
> THAT is what drew so much ire. You were rude, and you
> are still being rude, get a clue.
I got the clue from you...
I also got the clue that you didn't answer all questions, alike your "friend"
stalker
I don't care anymore who is write or wrong in this case, perhaps we both are...
I just leave that up to the others...they will make up their mind about
this...but how you twist or turn the case..cheating has once again annihilated
ones fun in a facet of the game of diablo.
As I can't seem to reason with YOU...I'm resting my case here, I frankly don't
care who won, the only thing I learned is that I'm glad I'm not visiting justus
anymore...imagine me being there for a couple of months being kicked out for a
simular reason...
Regards,
paladijn
Cindy
You even typed in extra stuff so that people can *understand* you better I
suppose. I asked you nicely to leave. You ignored me, I asked you nicely
again, you ignored me. I was asked by several people to remove you from the
channel, because your presence was disruptive, the very thought that you
were there, after all the name calling, etc that you have engaged in here in
this newsgroup. You care not for our channel, and apparently you only care
for your agenda. As long as I use my free time to keep the channel Justus
going, and free from PK's and disruptives, then as far as I am concerned you
will never be welcome. You have been rude to me, publicly and privately.
You have engaged in word battles with others from the channel. Others have
asked that you be removed because of this. So, it is done. Go find
someplace else to push your opinions. Your only purpose coming there tonite
was so that I would ban you, and you got your wish, so that you could whine
about it here. Grow up. Get real. I have no time for this idiotic ranting
from someone who only see's parts of posts. I'm past being NICE to you,
you're an idiot. These theads could have been closed long ago, but you
persist in dragging them out to suit yourself. You cut/paste posts, make
them into something they weren't to begin with, and for what? So you can
see your name in print? Does this make you feel good? Nothing you ever say
from this point on will be of any relevance to me, you've discredited
yourself.
And WHY did you edit that conversation? you left out the line where you
said:
<paladijn> afraid that I'll kill ya? :)
wow, checking out, you really did an editing number on it didn't you??? you
have me saying: guess why? YOU said that
all that stuff in brackets you added later
and i never said this:
>["I understand you called me ignorant and prejudice earlier today, that was
>certainly big of you."] not to you in chat, that was a cut from an earlier
post from today.
Why did you post our conversation if you intended to edit it? Why?? because
you need this attention I guess. You may try to discredit me all you like
Paladijn, but you have done more damage to yourself here than to me. These
people know me, and know I'm fair. You've made this into something
personal, so fine, personal it is. You are an idiot, there...I've sunk to
your level and called it like it is. Suddenly you seem to have a real
problem with me. Is it because I'm female? Is it because I'm well liked?
Just what IS your problem with me, no never mind, I really dont give a damn,
you obviously have some major personality problems. Hope you find help for
them. Buzz off.
--
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paladijn wrote in message <73dj78$2...@news3.euro.net>...
>
>yes I know that I'm rude/namecalling/non-tolerable to cheats and you are
the
>godess that does everything in the way it should be..(iow good)
>I don't care about this crap you write down here and the crap that you
mentioned
>in our discussions ..
>I told you (for as far as you could hear) and the others what I think oy
you and
>WHY... you just have to wonder why someone starts acting rude...probably
also
>why I got banned from justus for just being there...if that's the way you
define
>co-op and anti-pk, so be it...if that's what you call non-prejudiced so be
it
>just some qoutes from our beloved cindy
>
Snipz more crap
Z-man
> paladijn was banned by Evul`Wild.
Aww...poor liar, are you that pathetic? I know you editted stuff from
one line alone. You wouldn't have seen that.
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paladijn
Cindy wrote:
> ahhh very nice posting my private conversation with you to the newsgroup.
> You even typed in extra stuff so that people can *understand* you better I
> suppose. I asked you nicely to leave. You ignored me, I asked you nicely
> again, you ignored me. I was asked by several people to remove you from the
> channel, because your presence was disruptive, the very thought that you
> were there, after all the name calling, etc that you have engaged in here in
> this newsgroup. You care not for our channel, and apparently you only care
> for your agenda. As long as I use my free time to keep the channel Justus
> going, and free from PK's and disruptives, then as far as I am concerned you
> will never be welcome. You have been rude to me, publicly and privately.
> You have engaged in word battles with others from the channel. Others have
> asked that you be removed because of this. So, it is done.
People can read form previous posts how that happened...You call me a PK,
someone who disturbes other co-oppers in the channel, I had two great games with
three guys from your channel, you're rigth..it's my loss...you are rfeferring to
a wordbattle witjh charly, which I didn't start and of which I asked him to back
off..you only seem to see the things as they fit in your mind, ok perhaps I was
wrongi in name--calling you...but what about you name-calling me..do I have to
list all the words that were thrown at me? Including PK/cheater?
I'm considered disruptive by some because You WARNED them for a PK in your
channel...would have my handle...
> Go find someplace else to push your opinions.
It appaers that you're pushing your opinion in this newsgroup and channel;
justus..<g> sorry for entering your playground and having a different opinion
> Your only purpose coming there tonite
> was so that I would ban you, and you got your wish, so that you could whine
> about it here.
How can you call yourself not prejudiced???
> Grow up. Get real. I have no time for this idiotic ranting
> from someone who only see's parts of posts.
WHAT? YOU and stalker are the ones missing posts, neglecting questions and
evading them.
> I'm past being NICE to you,
were you? I haven't really noticed
> you're an idiot. These theads could have been closed long ago, but you
> persist in dragging them out to suit yourself. You cut/paste posts, make
> them into something they weren't to begin with, and for what? So you can
> see your name in print? Does this make you feel good? Nothing you ever say
> from this point on will be of any relevance to me, you've discredited
> yourself.
You have a sick point of view
> And WHY did you edit that conversation? you left out the line where you
> said:
> <paladijn> afraid that I'll kill ya? :)
>
> wow, checking out, you really did an editing number on it didn't you??? you
> have me saying: guess why? YOU said that
> all that stuff in brackets you added later
> and i never said this:
> >["I understand you called me ignorant and prejudice earlier today, that was
> >certainly big of you."] not to you in chat, that was a cut from an earlier
> post from today.
guess why this was in brackets? you could find it 10 sentences below that one.
It seems I'm not the only one making a fool of myself, eh?
> Why did you post our conversation if you intended to edit it?
errrrm..did I edit it? I qouted some things in between
> Why?? because you need this attention I guess.
It's quite simple why...your rantings in the post... It's also very funny, that
you the one that reads all and is reasonable still claim that I started movign
the thread into your post?? [check yourself, ALD and stalker did]
> You may try to discredit me all you like Paladijn, but you have done more
> damage to yourself here than to me. These
> people know me, and know I'm fair.
then appearently they don't know you...
> You've made this into something
> personal, so fine, personal it is.
I call it personal if someone starts calling me a PK and a cheater in another
thread and moves on to another yes..how would you define it?
> You are an idiot, there...I've sunk to
> your level and called it like it is.
You had already done that, don't apologize for it
> Suddenly you seem to have a real
> problem with me. Is it because I'm female? Is it because I'm well liked?
> Just what IS your problem with me, no never mind, I really dont give a damn,
> you obviously have some major personality problems. Hope you find help for
> them. Buzz off.
thanks..I guess that all that you did doesn't show you have serious problems...o
tolerant one...serious problems with me that is... and why is that? why should
it be madeinto the "name-calling" of PK/cheater in which my name is being fowled
in headers..without me knowing...then I am being balemd that I moved to the
other thread??
now let's end this crap and let it begone... I may have gotten a win over
stalker but it is a loss for me, that I can't meet more legit co-oppers in
justus...so be it.
Regards,
paladijn
>
> --
> Wild`
> wild...@XXXdatastar.net (you know the routine, remove the XXX to reply)
>
> paladijn wrote in message <73dj78$2...@news3.euro.net>...
> >
> >yes I know that I'm rude/namecalling/non-tolerable to cheats and you are
> the
> >godess that does everything in the way it should be..(iow good)
> >I don't care about this crap you write down here and the crap that you
> mentioned
> >in our discussions ..
> >I told you (for as far as you could hear) and the others what I think oy
> you and
> >WHY... you just have to wonder why someone starts acting rude...probably
> also
> >why I got banned from justus for just being there...if that's the way you
> define
> >co-op and anti-pk, so be it...if that's what you call non-prejudiced so be
> it
> >just some qoutes from our beloved cindy
> >
> Snipz more crap
Cindy
about you in the first place, that you were an admitted PK, and I don't have
to cut/paste here to prove that you said it more than once. Once you say
you had some weird typo error, fine, I offered to retract anything I said
about you, but NO, you would not have it, you said you had taken care of it
already. Then in the thread: Trainer for 1.07 and HIF file opener you say
it again, right in the middle of an unrelated thread, just one line, nothing
else. I will copy/paste this one, because I had to go to the trouble of
looking it up, you said: *cheaters suck, and I'm doing something about
it..and now I'm a PK* I guess that was supposed to be interpreted as saying
you are accused of being a PK? Funny, NOT.
I have called you an admitted PK, which is what you were by definition of
your OWN posting. Sorry you screwed up I bet. I even offered to retract my
saying the very thing that you said yourself. You refused that offer. So
don't keep saying *I* sullied your name, YOU and YOU alone made that post
that indicated that you claimed to be a PK. I never called you a cheater.
And, you refused my offer to retract that statement publicly even though you
alone started the whole thing with your *typo*.
You are a troll however. I see you made a nice new thread today. Can't get
enough of it I see.
Speaking of answering questions, you never do. I asked why you edited our
conversation, you answer with a question, the answer is *yes* you did edit
the conversation, you left our lines you said, attributed others you said to
me, and pasted in comments and quotes from other posts. To begin with,
posting our private whispered conversation, was far from honorable. Of
course, I had you pegged. I told you to post it if you wanted to, I knew
that is why you came there with a chat program, you are not that bright.
If you are going to attribute things to me, at least get them right, you
have a habit of screwing up posts it seems. And you are so wrong, these
people do know me, and you do not. Of course, lets see how big of a man you
really are, lets see if you REALLY let this thread die, or if you have to
have the last word. I've deliberately asked no questions here, so you won't
feel inclined to reply, so I'll be waiting to see if you lie about that
also. It was very telling that you said you had a win over another poster
here, obviously this is a game to you. Of course, I'm sure you can just
start yet ANOTHER thread to carry on your legacy of bullshit.
--
Wild`
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paladijn <"paladijn"@unforgettable.:)com> wrote in message
<73eh52$n...@news3.euro.net>...
ald
<"paladijn"@unforgettable.:).com> wrote:
>ald wrote:
>
>>Also, the guy currently battling it out with
>> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread,
>
>battling it out...I suggest you refer to the thread "Angry Diablo .... Big Puff
>Ball" instead of making trouble about such things...I guess I'lll meet one of you
>pricks with a severely hacked up char claiming this and that and ready to PK
>me...just to bad that I don'tplay wiht cheaters/hackers...that's what the thread
>was about...Stalker just evaded questions and the thread became bigger and
>bigger...
>If I state there that PK(K) are the same to me because they both hack up their
>char and ruin a fine game (as are all cheaters)...and suddenly I get burned as
>being a PK..yeah right....
>
Sorry about my choice of terms, but reading your flamewar (and, in my
opinion, it definitely is that) with Stalker is getting me down.
Perhaps "battling it out" wasn't the best way to put that. As to
meeting up with the PKK's in our group, you won't unless you seek them
out, the people in here aren't bounty hunters, they form games called
things like "PKs come and die" and wait for PK's to join them, not go
seek them out.
>> Paladjin or
>> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
>> had been causing problems in Justus,
>
>I.e. got into a discussion on cheating with cindy...I backed out when cindy
>notified me that justus had both cheaters and legits and that she felt
>offended...As I wasn't in a public channel..that's called respect..something
>justus claims to be built on.
>Cindy choose to continu the flamewar for a while after which I played two games
>with legits (one of them had hackes, but the other co-opper form justus asked him
>to use his spare armor instead, when I informed him I had to leave because the
>other was using dupes, my deepest respect for this man (unfortunately I have
>forgotten his name, plz remind me)).
>These were nice games as I have with most other LEGIT player on b.net.
>I dislike people for their cheating, not for their character...they can be nice
>guys and good friends...however I will not play with them and will ask them to
>play legit as I feel that cheating ruins the game.
>
Ok, I admit (and thought I had admitted) that I was relying on
second-hand info as to trouble in Justus.
>> and he has stated that he's a PK.
>
>Did I?
>
>> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
>> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
>>
>
>I would call someone that blames someone from somehting untrue indeed
>untrustworthy...shouldn'y you use facts to support your claims ALD?
>
>Regards.
>--palad
>
Yes, you did state that you were a PK, in the quote that Stalker keeps
throwing in your face. However, this is the quote that you claim that
the word "would" somehow got cut out of (perhaps you forgot to type
it?), which would totally change the meaning of the sentence. Since
the only evidence that you are a PK comes from this quote, I will
humbly apologize for continuing it, retract the claim that you are a
PK, and beg your pardon.
ald
wrote:
>
>
>ald wrote:
>
>> . Also, the guy currently battling it out with
>> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread, Paladjin or
>> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
>> had been causing problems in Justus, and he has stated that he's a PK.
>> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
>> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
>>
>>
>
>For my two pence worth of thought,
>
>I've played with Paladijn on numerous occasions in co-op games. He definitely is
>no PK, nor a cheat. In fact he almost obsessed with being legit and checks out
>people with Diablo sight to see if they are legit. If they are not, he asks them
>to leave, if they don't he is the one that leaves.
>
>It's sad to see that someone with a good name in Diablo Retail NLD-1 gets some
>dirt here.
>
>Mike Muizebelt
>LvL 40 warrior Mousehill
>LvL 44 Mage Magic-Mouse
>LvL 24 Rogue Mousevalley (RIP)
>
>
Well, as I said in a reply to him, he did state that he was a PK,
apparently a word got dropped from his post (one way or another). I'm
glad to see someone vouching for him, hopefully this will clear up the
issue.
paladijn
Cindy wrote:
> Paladijn, you are really really warped. I said in my thread, that was not
> about you in the first place, that you were an admitted PK, and I don't have
> to cut/paste here to prove that you said it more than once.
WHAT?
> Once you say
> you had some weird typo error, fine, I offered to retract anything I said
> about you, but NO, you would not have it, you said you had taken care of it
> already. Then in the thread: Trainer for 1.07 and HIF file opener you say
> it again, right in the middle of an unrelated thread, just one line, nothing
> else. I will copy/paste this one, because I had to go to the trouble of
> looking it up, you said: *cheaters suck, and I'm doing something about
> it..and now I'm a PK* I guess that was supposed to be interpreted as saying
> you are accused of being a PK? Funny, NOT.
why don't you paste the rest of the statement with that?
>
> I have called you an admitted PK, which is what you were by definition of
> your OWN posting.
Which I corrected before you even posted it, sveral people pointed this out to
YOU, even before I saw the thread.
> Sorry you screwed up I bet. I even offered to retract my
> saying the very thing that you said yourself. You refused that offer.
WHAT?
> So don't keep saying *I* sullied your name, YOU and YOU alone made that post
> that indicated that you claimed to be a PK. I never called you a cheater.
that's true, that was Stalker
> And, you refused my offer to retract that statement publicly even though you
> alone started the whole thing with your *typo*.
WHERE?
>
> You are a troll however. I see you made a nice new thread today. Can't get
> enough of it I see.
same counts for you...:)
>
> Speaking of answering questions, you never do. I asked why you edited our
> conversation, you answer with a question, the answer is *yes* you did edit
> the conversation, you left our lines you said, attributed others you said to
> me, and pasted in comments and quotes from other posts.
that was an attribute, are you that stupid or acting as such?
> To begin with,
> posting our private whispered conversation, was far from honorable. Of
> course, I had you pegged. I told you to post it if you wanted to, I knew
> that is why you came there with a chat program, you are not that bright.
hmmm, nice accusations..once again question: why are you not prejudiced?
> If you are going to attribute things to me, at least get them right, you
> have a habit of screwing up posts it seems. And you are so wrong, these
> people do know me, and you do not. Of course, lets see how big of a man you
> really are, lets see if you REALLY let this thread die, or if you have to
> have the last word. I've deliberately asked no questions here, so you won't
> feel inclined to reply, so I'll be waiting to see if you lie about that
> also.
geesz...about what??
> It was very telling that you said you had a win over another poster
> here, obviously this is a game to you.
*sigh* sure..it is, if onl;y you read other threads before judging...and weren't
so fucking hypocrite.
Why would I expect a thread to die if you still insult me... All you seem to be
able to post here is you personal grief towards me... <g> Why would I behave
rude towards you?
Regards,
--paladijn
Stalker~||AE||
posts now that he is a PK. News servers just dont drop a word....and wouldnt
it be convienient for that word to be the exact one that would change the
entire meaning?...sorry, but he screwed up and showed his true colors with
the first "Im a PK" post. He cant decide which way he wants to go with that
issue. I think it stems from him at first wanting to be a PK and realizing
that they are just hated while being a troll or a public annoyance is
controversial.
Stalker~||AE||
ald <10317...@compuserv.com> wrote in message
<365add57...@news.erols.com>...
Mike Muizebelt
ald wrote:
> >
>
> Well, as I said in a reply to him, he did state that he was a PK,
> apparently a word got dropped from his post (one way or another). I'm
> glad to see someone vouching for him, hopefully this will clear up the
> issue.
>
> ald
As being the one who vouched for paladijn, just a few lines.
I definitely hope we can put an end to this thread, as these are not the kind of
messages i like to read in alt.games.diablo What happened to the nice threads where
people share their gaming experiences in a positive way?
I hope that either Stalker, Cindy or Paladijn has the common sense not to reply to
"stupid" remarks anymore. Harm has been done already and there is no way that
continuing these insults will solve them.
I hope i can check justus again and find out that this has stopped (Otherwise I would
consider a private email war between them an option ;-))
Happy gaming,
Mike
Mousehill lvl 40 warrior
Magic-Mouse lvl 44 mage
(Both 100% legit, non PK or PKK)
Skee::Daddle
being rude to Cindy in JustUs and I called him on it...a little later we
played a game together. He was going to leave when the other player that I
invited joined with a GPOW, but when I loaned the rogue a plain saintly
plate and the GPOW stayed in the square, we had a good game. Yes, Paladijn
needs to learn tolerance of others and to control his mouth in a private
channel when he doesn't agree with the stated goals of the channel. Most
of us have been there before I would imagine. Let's cut him some slack
until he learns the ropes.
Britt
AKA Skee::Daddle
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, ald wrote:
>
> Well, as I said in a reply to him, he did state that he was a PK,
> apparently a word got dropped from his post (one way or another). I'm
> glad to see someone vouching for him, hopefully this will clear up the
> issue.
>
> ald
paladijn
I hope the others in this post will follow your example rather then continuing ranting
and expanding this thread. The error was my fault as I helped a friend on ICQ in
between, I completed the post and forgot to complete the rephrasing of the sentence.
The post in which this occured had nothing to do with "the flamewar", but was a
reaction to a sick joke by stalker...I'm sorry to see how it ran out of control, I
should have just ignored it.
As for meeting people in your group n/m..I don't come in unless I change handle and
reinstall diablo. I'm not asking for an unban..even when that would happen I wouldn't
enter...I dont feel the need to after the hostile approach of my being there.
Regards,
--palad
ald wrote:
> On 23 Nov 1998 15:48:00 GMT, paladijn
> <"paladijn"@unforgettable.:).com> wrote:
>
> >ald wrote:
> >
> >>Also, the guy currently battling it out with
> >> Stalker in what's becoming a very depressing thread,
> >
> >battling it out...I suggest you refer to the thread "Angry Diablo .... Big Puff
> >Ball" instead of making trouble about such things...I guess I'lll meet one of you
> >pricks with a severely hacked up char claiming this and that and ready to PK
> >me...just to bad that I don'tplay wiht cheaters/hackers...that's what the thread
> >was about...Stalker just evaded questions and the thread became bigger and
> >bigger...
> >If I state there that PK(K) are the same to me because they both hack up their
> >char and ruin a fine game (as are all cheaters)...and suddenly I get burned as
> >being a PK..yeah right....
> >
>
> Sorry about my choice of terms, but reading your flamewar (and, in my
> opinion, it definitely is that) with Stalker is getting me down.
> Perhaps "battling it out" wasn't the best way to put that. As to
> meeting up with the PKK's in our group, you won't unless you seek them
> out, the people in here aren't bounty hunters, they form games called
> things like "PKs come and die" and wait for PK's to join them, not go
> seek them out.
>
> >> Paladjin or
> >> something like that, it was stated a few times in that thread that he
> >> had been causing problems in Justus,
> >
> >I.e. got into a discussion on cheating with cindy...I backed out when cindy
> >notified me that justus had both cheaters and legits and that she felt
> >offended...As I wasn't in a public channel..that's called respect..something
> >justus claims to be built on.
> >Cindy choose to continu the flamewar for a while after which I played two games
> >with legits (one of them had hackes, but the other co-opper form justus asked him
> >to use his spare armor instead, when I informed him I had to leave because the
> >other was using dupes, my deepest respect for this man (unfortunately I have
> >forgotten his name, plz remind me)).
> >These were nice games as I have with most other LEGIT player on b.net.
> >I dislike people for their cheating, not for their character...they can be nice
> >guys and good friends...however I will not play with them and will ask them to
> >play legit as I feel that cheating ruins the game.
> >
>
> Ok, I admit (and thought I had admitted) that I was relying on
> second-hand info as to trouble in Justus.
>
> >> and he has stated that he's a PK.
> >
> >Did I?
> >
> >> Apparently Justus is getting too popular, happens to the best of
> >> things, but just a heads up, not everyone there is to be trusted.
> >>
> >
> >I would call someone that blames someone from somehting untrue indeed
> >untrustworthy...shouldn'y you use facts to support your claims ALD?
> >
> >Regards.
> >--palad
> >
>
> Yes, you did state that you were a PK, in the quote that Stalker keeps
> throwing in your face. However, this is the quote that you claim that
> the word "would" somehow got cut out of (perhaps you forgot to type
> it?), which would totally change the meaning of the sentence. Since
> the only evidence that you are a PK comes from this quote, I will
> humbly apologize for continuing it, retract the claim that you are a
> PK, and beg your pardon.
>
Celleste
Celleste
Celleste
<stalk...@XXXyahoo.com> wrote:
>Actually ALD, you are not wrong. This guy has said in at least 3 different
>posts now that he is a PK.
Well, reading one of the posts where he said he was a PK I
think was only a matter of him being scrupulously honest.
He said (and I'm paraphrasing because I don't care to go
searching through all the posts to find it) that he was a
pk--he had 2 or 3 ears that he had gotten from friendly fire
during coop games. If you look at it that way, then I'm a
PK too as I've taken out a few comrades accidentally.
Celleste
Casman
still have him killfiled and refuse to respond to his inflammatory posts.
However, if he shows any kind of reticence for the disharmony in Justus and
here in the NG he has caused...I would heartily consider giving him a second
chance. (not that he really gives a **it what I think) Maybe Paladijn
should talk to one of the Bobs...Dysentery or Inbred, or whatever Bob Mike
plays right now and see how much fun playing in Justus can be and how
informative and uplifting this NG can be.
--
"Save the Planet--recycle barrel splinters!"
Moon~Shadow (Rogue), Khandurian (Sorcerer) and Red~Leader (Warrior)
Now also appearing as -+=KillaBee=+- PKK and Brl~Hunter(BNM)
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Skee::Daddle wrote in message ...
>I will vouch for Paladijn's non-PK status, at least in our game.
-snip-
.Yes, Paladijn
Charlie
paladijn <"paladijn"@unforgettable.:)com> wrote in message
>
>
>Cindy wrote:
>
>> Paladijn, you are really really warped. I said in my thread, that was
not
>> about you in the first place, that you were an admitted PK, and I don't
have
>> to cut/paste here to prove that you said it more than once.
>
>WHAT?
She said that you admitted to being a PK and that she doesn't have to
copy/paste from other posts to prove that you did say you admitted to it.
What was so hard to understand in that statement?
>
>> Once you say
>> you had some weird typo error, fine, I offered to retract anything I said
>> about you, but NO, you would not have it, you said you had taken care of
it
>> already. Then in the thread: Trainer for 1.07 and HIF file opener you
say
>> it again, right in the middle of an unrelated thread, just one line,
nothing
>> else. I will copy/paste this one, because I had to go to the trouble of
>> looking it up, you said: *cheaters suck, and I'm doing something about
>> it..and now I'm a PK* I guess that was supposed to be interpreted as
saying
>> you are accused of being a PK? Funny, NOT.
>
>why don't you paste the rest of the statement with that?
I reread that post several times to see if you said *anything* else other
than "cheaters suck, and I'm doing something about it..and now I'm a PK"
I'm afraid that was all you said. What were we supposed to paste if you
didn't type anything else?
>
>>
>> I have called you an admitted PK, which is what you were by definition of
>> your OWN posting.
>
>Which I corrected before you even posted it, sveral people pointed this out
to
>YOU, even before I saw the thread.
You just admitted to it again with this "cheaters suck, and I'm doing
something about it..and now I'm a PK". I would get a pretty good kick out
of seeing you try to worm your way out of this one. Let me guess...another
ICQ message or 2 lowered your already low mentality and you left out a
keyword that would have changed the whole meaning in your post. Or better
yet, your newsreader omitted the keyword. Whatever.
>
>> Sorry you screwed up I bet. I even offered to retract my
>> saying the very thing that you said yourself. You refused that offer.
>
>WHAT?
She is referring to your "screw-up" with your first post about admitting to
being a PK, where you claim ICQ ruined your train of thought and you left
out a keyword in your post. And she offered to take back accusing you of
being a PK, which you turned right around and admitted to it
again..."cheaters suck, and I'm doing something about
it..and now I'm a PK".
>
>> So don't keep saying *I* sullied your name, YOU and YOU alone made that
post
>> that indicated that you claimed to be a PK. I never called you a
cheater.
>
>that's true, that was Stalker
Nope, Stalker, or anyone else for that matter, called you a cheater. YOU,
on the other hand, launched numerous and unprovoked attacks against people
who do use hacks or trainers when they play.
>
>> And, you refused my offer to retract that statement publicly even though
you
>> alone started the whole thing with your *typo*.
>
>WHERE?
I'm really starting to believe you are getting dumber and dumber with each
passing day. She is referring to the original post where you left out the
word "would" when you said you cheat when you "would" be a PK. Whatever you
meant by that post (I've tried to reword it differently to see if it makes
the least bit of sense...and it doesn't). You've got to be the dumbest
troll I've ever seen.
>
>>
>> You are a troll however. I see you made a nice new thread today. Can't
get
>> enough of it I see.
>
>same counts for you...:)
I'm not even going to bother with this one.
>
>>
>> Speaking of answering questions, you never do. I asked why you edited
our
>> conversation, you answer with a question, the answer is *yes* you did
edit
>> the conversation, you left our lines you said, attributed others you said
to
>> me, and pasted in comments and quotes from other posts.
>
>that was an attribute, are you that stupid or acting as such?
>
>> To begin with,
>> posting our private whispered conversation, was far from honorable. Of
>> course, I had you pegged. I told you to post it if you wanted to, I knew
>> that is why you came there with a chat program, you are not that bright.
>
>hmmm, nice accusations..once again question: why are you not prejudiced?
Why is she not prejudiced? Boy.....get the hell out of here.
>
>> If you are going to attribute things to me, at least get them right, you
>> have a habit of screwing up posts it seems. And you are so wrong, these
>> people do know me, and you do not. Of course, lets see how big of a man
you
>> really are, lets see if you REALLY let this thread die, or if you have to
>> have the last word. I've deliberately asked no questions here, so you
won't
>> feel inclined to reply, so I'll be waiting to see if you lie about that
>> also.
>
>geesz...about what??
>
>> It was very telling that you said you had a win over another poster
>> here, obviously this is a game to you.
>
>*sigh* sure..it is, if onl;y you read other threads before judging...and
weren't
>so fucking hypocrite.
>Why would I expect a thread to die if you still insult me... All you seem
to be
>able to post here is you personal grief towards me... <g> Why would I
behave
>rude towards you?
>
>Regards,
>--paladijn
And, my Fuzzy_Troll, I dug up my PKK...just for you =)Have a REALLY nice
day on BattleNet.
tovemi
No Stalker, you are wrong. Paladjin is not a PK. I played a game with
him this weekend, and although it was not one of my memorable ones - he
is not a Pk. He has on several occasions explained what happened when
he posted that article. He is however rather unfamiliar with good
netiquette and this group.
tovemi
Babajaga
> Actually ALD, you are not wrong. This guy has said in at least 3 different
> posts now that he is a PK. News servers just dont drop a word....and wouldnt
> it be convienient for that word to be the exact one that would change the
> entire meaning?...sorry, but he screwed up and showed his true colors with
> the first "Im a PK" post. He cant decide which way he wants to go with that
> issue. I think it stems from him at first wanting to be a PK and realizing
> that they are just hated while being a troll or a public annoyance is
> controversial.
>
> Stalker~||AE||
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ald
<stalk...@XXXyahoo.com> wrote:
>Actually ALD, you are not wrong. This guy has said in at least 3 different
>posts now that he is a PK. News servers just dont drop a word....and wouldnt
>it be convienient for that word to be the exact one that would change the
>entire meaning?...sorry, but he screwed up and showed his true colors with
>the first "Im a PK" post. He cant decide which way he wants to go with that
>issue. I think it stems from him at first wanting to be a PK and realizing
>that they are just hated while being a troll or a public annoyance is
>controversial.
>
>Stalker~||AE||
>
>
Well, the first one certainly sounded that way, but if you believe his
more recent explanation, blaming the dropping of the word "would" on
switching between writing in the NG and typing ICQ messages (which I
can understand, I'm doing the same thing now), this can be passed off.
The others (something about I do suchandsuch and now I'm a PK) I think
were just a badly phrased reference to the fact that he's being
accused of being a PK in here, at least that's the way I read it. I
think the drawbacks of the medium (ie, not being able to see sarcasm
on people's faces) are really hurting paladjin in this ongoing
turmoil. Remember, we have no evidence that he *is* a PK except these
statements, we even have at least one person vouching for him. I am
willing to believe that this is a monumental screw-up, but I have a
forgiving nature, and haven't been in the kind of pissing contest with
him that you have :-)
SubSpace
[Paladijn a PK?]
>Ask him about Fuzzy_Paladin or whatever his characters name is.
That character doesn't exist, he made it up... Oh whatever, you have
killfiled him already and that's your decision...
-SubSpace- Level 39 Warrior (not entirely legit)
-=HellFire=- Level 41 Sorcerer
--Scorpion-- Level 35 Rogue
Species`8472` Level 36 Warrior
--FireStarter-- Level 19 Sorcerer
-=Link=- Level 18 Warrior (purist)
(all the rest is legit)
Stalker~||AE||
guy. I also refer you to my "Comment" post.
Stalker~||AE||
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In article <1dj2hrs.1dy...@t4o209p10.telia.com>,
tov...@olSPERRE.telia.no (tovemi) wrote:
> Stalker~||AE|| <stalk...@XXXyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> No Stalker, you are wrong. Paladjin is not a PK. I played a game with
> him this weekend, and although it was not one of my memorable ones - he
> is not a Pk. He has on several occasions explained what happened when
> he posted that article. He is however rather unfamiliar with good
> netiquette and this group.
>
> tovemi
> Babajaga
>
> > Actually ALD, you are not wrong. This guy has said in at least 3 different
> > posts now that he is a PK. News servers just dont drop a word....and wouldnt
> > it be convienient for that word to be the exact one that would change the
> > entire meaning?...sorry, but he screwed up and showed his true colors with
> > the first "Im a PK" post. He cant decide which way he wants to go with that
> > issue. I think it stems from him at first wanting to be a PK and realizing
> > that they are just hated while being a troll or a public annoyance is
> > controversial.
> >
> > Stalker~||AE||
>
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Adam Kusnierz
<pala...@unforgettable.com> writes
>
>yes I know that I'm rude/namecalling/non-tolerable to cheats and you are the
>godess that does everything in the way it should be..(iow good)
It's sad that you resort to this kind of language that effectively cloud
your otherwise very valid points. I hope that by now you have realised
that Cidy (and Co.) can't be reasoned with. Let it rest.
If you _must_ react to their posts, however don't do it when you are
angry. If being here makes you angry then it would be better if you
found someting other to do ;)
They can't reason, they have no arguments, so their only chance is to
upset you. They have done a very good job on you, and they have you now
discrediting yourself. Relax! This NG is _supposed_ to be fun too ;)
[...]
>rantings totally unnecesary and extremely hypocrite...I don't have to be
>unbanned for the channel justus, my fun has already been spoiled by vain people,
>who knew better anyway...
>We'll see what the future brings...I'll meet plenty of other legits in other
>games, alaz
FYI - you are only banned from a channel for as long as person who
banned you holds the gavel. I know, I banned many ppl.
You need to consider something tho' - _why_ go where you are not wanted?
There are many other channels where you can easily get a legit game
going. If you want to play specifically with ppl from here then you may
contact them via email, or try /who justus (to see who is there) and
then whisper those you fancy a game with from where you are.
[pls cut out 'dead wood' - parts of the previous posts you are not
replying to]
--
Adam Kusnierz
Jornt van Dijk
and for all. I have played with Paladijn for a number of times now. I can safely say
that he is the most NOT PK I have ever played with, as a rogue he took great care
not to hurt people and heal them if he accidently did.
When people do die (by his hand or not) he resurrects that person or opens a TP
after clearing the area to ensure a safe return.
What started this rumor is just the lack of attention to detail by some people... It
did more damage than it should ever have done. I surely hope you are all very
ashamed of yourselves.
~When the truth walks away
Everybody stays
Cause the truth about the world is that crime does pay
So if you walk away
Who is gonna stay
Cause I'd like to think the world is a better place~
BruteChick: level 32 Rogue (100% legit, semi-purist)
Time Goddess
was a PK. After it was posted here, he quickly said that it was a typo every
time. (I won't point out that he then needs to work on his skills) He then
perpetuated it to a large extent, going so far as to try to martyrize
himself and posting two more threads on how it was everyone else's fault, so
they should all stop. Though some were, at first, perpetuating it
themeselves, they soon stopped and only stated facts.
How Paladijn plays now is irrelevant. That is not what the argument was
about.
paladijn
Time Goddess wrote:
> Actually, IRC, it was started by Paladijn saying a few times(?)
That's worth a questionmark indeed, I stated that once and admitted the typo in
it
> that he was a PK. After it was posted here, he quickly said that it was a typo
EVERY TIME? just once..take a dictionary and look up the word SARCASM, that
might explain other occasions in which I "claimed" to be PK. Have you checked
Fuzzy_paladin's PK site?
> every time. (I won't point out that he then needs to work on his skills)
well, you did anyway...may I suggest you learned to read all relative posts and
then come back with some replies?
> He then perpetuated it to a large extent,
yep..that was me..the others didn't do a thing..I just spammed your whole NG
full of it...
> going so far as to try to martyrize himself and posting two more threads on
> how it was everyone else's fault, so they should all stop.
Just one, to bring some reasoning in the cahso..I had the feeling people read
half the posts and had their opinion ready..Guess I'm stilll right about that.
If you are so prejudiced and don't read all the relative posts don't reply.
and... everyone else?? geesz once again...learn to read.
> Though some were, at first, perpetuating it
> themeselves, they soon stopped and only stated facts.
[cough cough]
You really need to reread the whole thread before you start screaming here
again, apparantly you "missed" a couple of posts...
> How Paladijn plays now is irrelevant. That is not what the argument was
> about.
a) NOW? iow I WAS PK in the past?!
b) the original discussion was about forcing a playing style upon someone, me
being a possibly being a PK had nothing to do with that..however Stalker ported
it to another thread after someone reacted on Ald stated that I was a PK. That
was in this thread to which you reply, it also includes some headers proclaiming
me to be PK..."not what the argument was about...."
Apparently ytou are not able to think rationaly, if you want answers check the
postings, I won't reply until you start making any sense in your postings
Regards,
paladijn
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Dark Half
>
> Time Goddess wrote:
>
> > Actually, IRC, it was started by Paladijn saying a few times(?)
>
> That's worth a questionmark indeed, I stated that once and admitted the typo in
> it
>
> > that he was a PK. After it was posted here, he quickly said that it was a typo
>
> EVERY TIME? just once..take a dictionary and look up the word SARCASM, that
> might explain other occasions in which I "claimed" to be PK. Have you checked
> Fuzzy_paladin's PK site?
Oh, now it wasn't typos, it was sarcasm. Wow, we're supposed to just
forget all the "IT WAS A TYPO!" whining you did? YOu realize you just
FLUSHED what little credibility you had left by changing your story,
don't you?
And, umm, you did start more than one new thread. Don't go lying about
that now that they've scrolled off your server. Anyone can go to DeJa
News and see that you're full of BS on that.
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>
> Time Goddess wrote:
>
> > Actually, IRC, it was started by Paladijn saying a few times(?)
>
> That's worth a questionmark indeed, I stated that once and admitted the typo in
> it
Oh, yeah... You stated it at *least* twice, btw. And only cried "typo"
on one. I'm not gonna go hunt up both occasions where you stated it
because that's already been done. Give it up and let it rest.
Cindy
that the orignal post did not mention ANY person except kiki-the-crazy, who
btw, came into JustUs 2 days ago and proudly proclaimed that YES, he did PK
Newbies Uncle's 8 year old nephew and that YES he is a PK, and that he would
come into JustUs every chance he got and do it again.
REPOST:
Please be on the defense of kiki_the_cRazy account #2293256, this person
sometimes hangs around Justus and has been banned numerous times for causing
problems in the channel and one of our regulars Newbie's-Uncle was playing
with him and someone else from the channel along with his 8 year old Nephew,
when Kiki PK'd the child. Because of net splits, banning is not a viable
option to prevent this person from coming on the channel, but if you see him
there, please alert people that he is not to be trusted. Thanx.
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paladijn wrote in message <3663C579...@unforgettable.com>...
>
>
>Time Goddess wrote:
>
>> Actually, IRC, it was started by Paladijn saying a few times(?)
>
>That's worth a questionmark indeed, I stated that once and admitted the
typo in
>it
>
>> that he was a PK. After it was posted here, he quickly said that it was a
typo
>
>EVERY TIME? just once..take a dictionary and look up the word SARCASM, that
>might explain other occasions in which I "claimed" to be PK. Have you
checked
>Fuzzy_paladin's PK site?
>
paladijn
killfile
Dark Half wrote:
> paladijn wrote:
> >
> > Time Goddess wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, IRC, it was started by Paladijn saying a few times(?)
> >
> > That's worth a questionmark indeed, I stated that once and admitted the typo in
> > it
> >
> > > that he was a PK. After it was posted here, he quickly said that it was a typo
> >
> > EVERY TIME? just once..take a dictionary and look up the word SARCASM, that
> > might explain other occasions in which I "claimed" to be PK. Have you checked
> > Fuzzy_paladin's PK site?
>
> Oh, now it wasn't typos, it was sarcasm. Wow, we're supposed to just
> forget all the "IT WAS A TYPO!" whining you did? YOu realize you just
> FLUSHED what little credibility you had left by changing your story,
> don't you?
>
> And, umm, you did start more than one new thread. Don't go lying about
> that now that they've scrolled off your server. Anyone can go to DeJa
> News and see that you're full of BS on that.
>
Brute Gast
Paladijn has never been (and judging by his style will never be) a PK, I
have known Paladijn from the very beginning and can savely say that he
has never PKed anyone on purpose. The problem is that people who cannot
(or will not...) understand his sarcasm, will read in his postings that
he is a PK.
And as for him having to work on his typing skills... well that is just
kicking a man when he is down isn't it really....?
Brute Gast: Level 33 rogue (100% Legit, semi-purist)
~You can't take back, the one mistake
That still lives on after life it takes.
In that one day, that changed our lives
And bitter memories are left behind~
Time Goddess
vocalization.
>And as for him having to work on his typing skills... well that is just
>kicking a man when he is down isn't it really....?
Time Goddess
typo in
>it
I was not there when the chat room argument ensued, so I am unaware of how
many times you said that you were a PK.
>EVERY TIME? just once..take a dictionary and look up the word SARCASM, that
>might explain other occasions in which I "claimed" to be PK.
Sarcasm is conveyed by tones of vocalization, not a collection of
pixels. Also, like I said, I wasn't there, so I have to take the word of
those who were- who I tend to trust more than you.
>Have you checked
>Fuzzy_paladin's PK site?
No, and I don't care.
>well, you did anyway
Well, duh.
>...may I suggest you learned to read all relative posts and
>then come back with some replies?
I did.
>yep..that was me..the others didn't do a thing..I just spammed your whole
NG
>full of it...
I did not say that. I said that you "perpetuated it to a large extent".
Which you did, and you are doing so now (As I myself am, of course, by
replying to you. But I felt that since you have insulted me, it is my right
to defend myself. And I'd bet that you *haven't* blocked me; your behavior
has shown that you would prefer to argue instead of dropping it.) It would
be hypocritical for you to say otherwise, not to mention a lie.
>Just one, to bring some reasoning in the cahso..I had the feeling people
read
>half the posts and had their opinion ready..Guess I'm stilll right about
that.
>If you are so prejudiced and don't read all the relative posts don't reply.
As I felt that it might be relevant in the future (guess what, I was
right!), I did read every post. You're probably right, about myself being
"prejudiced" against you; you are a very rude little man, and I don't
especially like you. But I everything I have said in relation to your or
your actions has been facts.
>and... everyone else?? geesz once again...learn to read.
I read well enough that I top out all tests, and have 100%
comprehension. I advise that you find out whether or not your insults are
true before you slander a person.
>[cough cough]
>You really need to reread the whole thread before you start screaming here
>again, apparantly you "missed" a couple of posts...
Assuming that by ""missed"" you meant that I did not read them, I now
refer to above statements. But I can not re-read them; my server has not
kept them. It has been too long.
>a) NOW? iow I WAS PK in the past?!
You said it, not me...
>b) the original discussion was about forcing a playing style upon someone
<snip irrelevant snippage>
RII
>Apparently ytou are not able to think rationaly, if you want answers check
the
>postings, I won't reply until you start making any sense in your postings
You seem to be confused. I have not changed any facts, only stated them,
along with the occasional opinion. I easily slip into "cooly logical" mode,
as I have done here and in my earlier post.
Dark Half
>
> /me puts two other names in his "cannot read, only trying to inflict a new flamewar"
> killfile
Oh, you sit there calling TG a friggin' liar, and *we're* the ones
trying to start a flamewar? God d*mn, are you really that dense?
paladijn
Time Goddess wrote:
> >That's worth a questionmark indeed, I stated that once and admitted the
> typo in
> >it
> As I rarely, anymore, play Diablo on the Net (limited monthly Net time),
> I was not there when the chat room argument ensued, so I am unaware of how
> many times you said that you were a PK.
R E A D...that wasn't in a chatrooom, that was once here in the NG, due to a
typo
> >EVERY TIME? just once..take a dictionary and look up the word SARCASM, that
> >might explain other occasions in which I "claimed" to be PK.
> Sarcasm is conveyed by tones of vocalization, not a collection of
> pixels. Also, like I said, I wasn't there, so I have to take the word of
> those who were- who I tend to trust more than you.
Apparently you right about the sarcasm part. About the rest...why did you ever
reply to this thread? You were not involved, not insulted...
> >Have you checked
> >Fuzzy_paladin's PK site?
> No, and I don't care.
>
> >well, you did anyway
> Well, duh.
> >...may I suggest you learned to read all relative posts and
> >then come back with some replies?
> I did.
now look what YOU write below...
> >yep..that was me..the others didn't do a thing..I just spammed your whole
> NG
> >full of it...
> I did not say that. I said that you "perpetuated it to a large extent".
> Which you did, and you are doing so now (As I myself am, of course, by
> replying to you. But I felt that since you have insulted me, it is my right
> to defend myself. And I'd bet that you *haven't* blocked me; your behavior
> has shown that you would prefer to argue instead of dropping it.) It would
> be hypocritical for you to say otherwise, not to mention a lie.
Apperently not, I'm ending it here, once again after you REstarted it, this
thread wasn't about you, nor where you insulted before posting, I can claim
otherwise.
> >Just one, to bring some reasoning in the cahso..I had the feeling people
> read
> >half the posts and had their opinion ready..Guess I'm stilll right about
> that.
> >If you are so prejudiced and don't read all the relative posts don't reply.
> As I felt that it might be relevant in the future (guess what, I was
> right!), I did read every post. You're probably right, about myself being
> "prejudiced" against you; you are a very rude little man, and I don't
> especially like you. But I everything I have said in relation to your or
> your actions has been facts.
So you read every post...
Don't start to ask yourself why I *MIGHT* act rude towards certain people. I
consider your reply to Brute_Gast as RUDE towards both him and me..but as you
are probably like Stalker and cindy you are right and I am wrong....
> >and... everyone else?? geesz once again...learn to read.
> I read well enough that I top out all tests, and have 100%
> comprehension. I advise that you find out whether or not your insults are
> true before you slander a person.
I fully agree with the insult part...
> >[cough cough]
> >You really need to reread the whole thread before you start screaming here
> >again, apparantly you "missed" a couple of posts...
> Assuming that by ""missed"" you meant that I did not read them, I now
> refer to above statements. But I can not re-read them; my server has not
> kept them. It has been too long.
[cough cough] once again, I thought you read all (relative) posts...
And once agian why did you reply, trying to reopen a flamewar?
> >a) NOW? iow I WAS PK in the past?!
> You said it, not me...
> >b) the original discussion was about forcing a playing style upon someone, me
> being a possibly being a PK had nothing to do with that..however Stalker
> ported
> it to another thread after someone reacted on Ald stated that I was a PK. That
> was in this thread to which you reply, it also includes some headers
> proclaiming
> me to be PK..."not what the argument was about...."
>
> >Apparently ytou are not able to think rationaly, if you want answers check
> the
> >postings, I won't reply until you start making any sense in your postings
> You seem to be confused. I have not changed any facts, only stated them,
> along with the occasional opinion. I easily slip into "cooly logical" mode,
> as I have done here and in my earlier post.
I noticed... don't mind slipping into it again, I won't reply anymore, I just
hope that you see that what you are doing here doesn't make any sense to me nor
others..and if you do bother to read all the posts check DejaNews
Hoping this nonsense ends for once; regards,
paladijn
Time Goddess
Dark Half
Your point?
If you are really willing to walk away, do it. ignore the thread.
Period. Me, I'm not going to just sit here and watch you harass the
regs. Yeah, you heard me: *You* harass *the regs*. Not the other way
around. You're the one calling them liars when anyone who wishes can go
back and see that they are stating events quite factually. You are the
one doing all the whining about how we're ganging up on you and calling
them all horrible people and biggots. YOu are the one insisting on
pressing a flamewar every time you see your name mentioned in a way that
isn't supportive. IIRC, TG was explaining what was going on to someone.
You took it personally and decided to kick up the flamewar again. And
you wonder why you've been labled a troll...
moe SAINT EverGreen
so so
what a weird word so
so weird
so so
so there it is, ya know..
is it all so always ain't no something so that is all it knew?
there, it is so, just so ya know
so this is what you can do
just say so, so so what
so you don't do none of it do ya..
you know what, it is so there
but what is
that and this
all of it?
or so so so
(c) 1998, moe SAINT EverGreen
Lo Fi Cat
response:
:) heh
:)
:) so so
:) what a weird word so
:) so weird
:) so so
:)
:) so there it is, ya know..
:) is it all so always ain't no something so that is all it knew?
:) there, it is so, just so ya know
:) so this is what you can do
:)
:) just say so, so so what
:) so you don't do none of it do ya..
:) you know what, it is so there
:) but what is
:) that and this
:) all of it?
:) or so so so
:)
:) (c) 1998, moe SAINT EverGreen
:)
Beautiful.
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Lo Fi Cat wrote in message <366fb601...@news.megsinet.net>...
DaIai Lama
>that Cidy (and Co.) can't be reasoned with.
Reasoned with? Certainly. Approach someone with a very negative and critical
attitude and they will never buy your side of the story, even if your points
are 100% valid. Validity is only part of a debate. Persuausivness is the
other. The whole thing got blown WAY out of proportion simply because a few
invectives were slipped in that didn't need to be. Both sides had some valid
points, but they didn't want to simply say, well you are right but I hold a
different opinion.
Still, even though the arguments may still be twitching here and there, why
don't we just bury this hatchet and forget it happened? Everyone has a
special unique way of annoying others that is just part of who they are (I'm
sure my pedantry has rubbed many readers the wrong way). In time, you can
learn to compensate or adjust yoru behavior, and others will learn to accept
part of that behavior. Compromise will go quite a ways, especially when we are
all here to read, learn, and share Diablo experience. All this warm
mushiness is making me queasy, so I'll stop.
I will say that whoever is responsible for keeping servers from splitting
deserves some rather choice swear words. It basically ruined what could have
been a fun night on Bnet tonight. Blizzard needs to re-think sereve side
only, and re-think it again and again, until they have done so for a googleplex
of iterations. Server side only is simply WRONG. What lag and server
splits do to ruin a gaming experience is far more than any PK's, cheaters,
lamers, trolls, etc can do to ruin a game. I can go find another game or
others who will play a decent co-op game. I can't escape Lag or server splits
(sometimes you can, but often you are stuck).
Players choice server side only character and ladder, or non ladder
server.player side =GOOD
Server Side only =BAD (maybe even Evil)
Dalai Lama
Lo Fi Cat
:)
:) Dalai Lama
Woo Hoo ---and--- Yee Haw!
You know, I work harder at this then most aspiring Olympians. I can
only hope that in some small way, you were recognizing all of my
extensive training and devotion in/to honing this particular
attribute.
This is one of my favourite lines in recent history!
Merci!
_______
Nothing comes between me and my jell-o. Nothing.
Vox
Dalai Lama said:
>been a fun night on Bnet tonight. Blizzard needs to re-think sereve side
>only, and re-think it again and again, until they have done so for a googleplex
>of iterations. Server side only is simply WRONG. What lag and server
>splits do to ruin a gaming experience is far more than any PK's, cheaters,
>lamers, trolls, etc can do to ruin a game. I can go find another game or
>others who will play a decent co-op game. I can't escape Lag or server splits
>(sometimes you can, but often you are stuck).
>Players choice server side only character and ladder, or non ladder
>server.player side =GOOD
>Server Side only =BAD (maybe even Evil)
Well...as some of you know, there's a Blizzard guy who shows
up once in a while at justus for a game and some chatting, and last
time he did, we all nailed him with questions about D2 (as usual :)
and one of teh things I asked was abotu the server-side chars thing.
what he said was, more or less, that you WILL have a choice as of
server side or client side characters...if you have a server side
char, you can only play with other people who have server-side chars,
if you have a client side char, you can only play with people with
client-side chars...I *think* he said something about there being 2
separate battlenets, one for server side and one for char side, but am
not quite sure about this last data (was too happy jumping all over
'cause of teh choice :)
So...almost certainly (he said there were some issues that
were still being discussed about it) we'll have those two choices
(proly a combination of em too)
Arioshi ba :)
Vox.
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really don't, but then, if they put enuf cat nip in the jello, I won't mind
at all, purrrrrrrr. Tis true, tis true, I got it off the tongue of the VP
himself (ack, do NOT ask me about that, none of your business!!!.. but he
likes green jello too, it's a fact, undeniably) woohoo... will be a wiggly,
jiggly, bouncy time. Jello molds for all!!!! soon to be had in your
favorite demon shapes, remember to use half the water and they are
indestructible and may be used in food fights on the channel, in place of
those messy cream pies.
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Lo Fi Cat wrote in message <3669e1e4...@news.megsinet.net>...
>Please do not forget to add that there will "special jell-o content"
>in Diablo 2.
>
>For further information, please verify with Wild or one of the many
>other participants of the "Jell-o Party".
>
>Merci,
>
>LFC
tovemi
> I will say that whoever is responsible for keeping servers from splitting
> deserves some rather choice swear words. It basically ruined what could
> have been a fun night on Bnet tonight. Blizzard needs to re-think
> sereve side only, and re-think it again and again, until they have done so
> for a googleplex of iterations. Server side only is simply WRONG.
> What lag and server splits do to ruin a gaming experience is far more than
> any PK's, cheaters, lamers, trolls, etc can do to ruin a game. I can go
> find another game or others who will play a decent co-op game. I can't
> escape Lag or server splits (sometimes you can, but often you are stuck).
>
> Players choice server side only character and ladder, or non ladder
> server.player side =GOOD
>
> Server Side only =BAD (maybe even Evil)
>
> Dalai Lama
I have been reading a lot about Ultima Online recently, (pure
professional interest..lol) and they have some problems with time-warps
etc. When you log back on you find that your char is somewhere else than
when you logged out. So you may have lost about an hour or more of exp
and items. Even if the chars are serverside only, they do also have a
problem with trainers etc. And the lag is a PK in Ultima Online too..
But I don´t think Blizzard will uninvent lag...I mean how can they? Lag
is a net thing, and we have no way of prevent it from happening, even
more so when more people get connected every day. If Blizzard mainly do
this serverside thing to prevent cheating, they might take a look at UO.
Of course, I am against serverside only chars for one reason only, I
can´t be online as much as my US playing partners..And my char will
certainly be a lowlevel char all her life.That limits where I can go,
and who I can play with. It can still be a coop experience though..
The major difference between these two games, among other things of
course.., is that in Diablo we will have a choice of who we want to play
with. In the world of UO you generally don´t have that as much.
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Adam Kusnierz
<daia...@aol.com> writes
>>I hope that by now you have realised
>>that Cidy (and Co.) can't be reasoned with.
>
>Reasoned with? Certainly. Approach someone with a very negative and critical
>attitude and they will never buy your side of the story, even if your points
>are 100% valid. Validity is only part of a debate. Persuausivness is the
>other.
No it isn't. You don't have to be polite, persuasive or pretty to be
right. How you present your points can, indeed, affect how those are
received, but can never _make_ you right or wrong.
> The whole thing got blown WAY out of proportion simply because a few
>invectives were slipped in that didn't need to be. Both sides had some valid
>points, but they didn't want to simply say, well you are right but I hold a
>different opinion.
It's not possible with all ppl. Some ppl are more reasonable than
others, and some will not see reasonable approach if it came and hit
them on the head. Sure, swearing at them does not help, but even if you
were as sweet as can be, BUT presented opinion different than theirs
there would be only one possible outcome. Ppl I wrote about (above) are
unable meet their opponents half way. Unable to agree to disagree. They
are there to dish out and receive verbal abuse because they believe it
is their purpose here (or in justus channel). Either that, or they like
it, or perhaps both ;)
>Still, even though the arguments may still be twitching here and there, why
>don't we just bury this hatchet and forget it happened?
Well, we've tried. This whole thing was dead for past 2-3 weeks (maybe
longer). The answer to your question then is: the hatchet is not
burried, cos YOU dug it up. ;)
[...]
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