pvp paladin Q

[Rancid]

Opinions plz.
Was thinking about maxing
Conviction
Fist of the Heavens
Vigor
Charge
Enough HS to max block.

What are some suggestions on equip.
Some being cost NOT an object, or cost being a problem, I dont care.
I happen to have an ethreal hellslayer(zod) for the charging. Thinking a
Herald and Hand of Blessed Light for the FoH.

I could use an uber elite item like a fury seraph rod, I have a fury Balrog
blade or something to trade for it.
USWEST btw.

[short]

"Rancid" <Ran...@diediedie.com> wrote in message
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ARGH! How about I tell you my ideas, and you give me that ethereal
Hellslayer? :o)

I've only seen 2 pvp Paladins, one was pretty much exactly what you are
planning (without the vigor), and IIRC the other went with Vengeance, Smite,
Holy Shield, Fanat, and Conviction. He kinda kicked ass, but he was already
90+ when I saw him in action, but I'm not a dueler, I was just watching.

As far as equipment, it looks like you pretty much have that covered to me

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[Buddabing]

"Rancid" <Ran...@diediedie.com> wrote in message
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You might consider holy freeze instead of vigor. You'll need quite a few
points in the skill to build up the radius.

Some equipment you might consider:
- Physical damage reduction (shaftstop, rockstopper, string of ears, etc)
- Elemental damage reduction (guardian angel, TGV, raven frost, 4D shield)

If you have good resists elsewhere you can use the herald of zak all the
time instead of the 4D shield.

Hand of Blessed Light is a good choice for a FoH paladin.

Good luck!
Buddabing

[Rancid]

"Buddabing" <budd...@nospaam.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rancid" <Ran...@diediedie.com> wrote in message
> news:arduep$hhkp6$1...@ID-123544.news.dfncis.de...
> > Opinions plz.
> > Was thinking about maxing
> > Conviction
> > Fist of the Heavens
> > Vigor
> > Charge
> > Enough HS to max block.
> >
> > What are some suggestions on equip.
> > Some being cost NOT an object, or cost being a problem, I dont care.
> > I happen to have an ethreal hellslayer(zod) for the charging. Thinking a
> > Herald and Hand of Blessed Light for the FoH.
> >
> > I could use an uber elite item like a fury seraph rod, I have a fury
> Balrog
> > blade or something to trade for it.
> > USWEST btw.
>
> You might consider holy freeze instead of vigor. You'll need quite a few
> points in the skill to build up the radius.

The Vigor was to supplement the charge, making the attack faster. I can cut
that down a bit to balance HF :) hmmm
This bugger is just in the planning.

[flame_thrower]

Zons will be your biggest problem and ww barbs will be second but you still
have to deal with ith everything and occy rings. My pally has DR/ absorbs
normal gear:
LS, rockstopper - tal'd, crafted +1 amulet, shaftstop, dwarft star, raven
frost, war travs (just there), SoE 7/12, LoH

optional gear: 2 soj, raven frost, dwarf star, TGV, blackhorns, crescent
moon, rising sun, hellmouth ( fire absorb gloves)

poison kills me and piercing cold does this i know. something a WW barb did
too.

[short]

"Rancid" <Ran...@diediedie.com> wrote in message

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I would just get 6 or so FRW small charms, and forget the Vigor. But thats
just me :o) I never thought about Holy Freeze, i've never seen anyone use
it in PvP before. But like I said, I've only seen 2 PvP pallys :)

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[short]

"flame_thrower" <mweb...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Hehehehe, a few hits from a Doombringer kills you too, IIRC :o)

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[flame_thrower]

"short" <sho...@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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: "flame_thrower" <mweb...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message

:
:
I knew you knew but I didnt know.
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[tcells]

Rancid wrote in message ...

I expect some smite would be handy, perhaps a juiced up 5 socket flail or
wiz spike for it on W, silence phase if you want a much richer option

[tcells]

short wrote in message ...

HF is generally frowned upon in pally V pally duels, that may be why you
didn't see it

[Rancid]

"tcells" <tce...@Xcapmon.com> wrote in message
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Hmmmm /me has vex and ist handy..... if I went that way, what benifit do I
get? For smiting? I really havent played much in so long :/

[tcells]

there are two biggies - the direct one is the +skills, these are major in
terms of smite as it effects fanatacism, holy shield and smite - effectively
adding 6 skills to your attack. The second is indirect - the resistances,
these allow you a lot more flexibility in your choice of shield and what you
socket it with. Smite is determined by weapon speed (along with things
which effect weapon speed) - a 20ias phase isn't a slouch :) It's not the
ultimate smite weapon as you canget better rares for the job - but these are
harder to get than the runes for silence. If you need a six socket phase
blade for the endeavour I'm happy to provide one, as a silence phase blade
is something I've wanted for a long time but I expect another 6 socket phase
will turn up for me well before the runes.

[Buddabing]

> >
> >
> > I expect some smite would be handy, perhaps a juiced up 5 socket flail
or
> > wiz spike for it on W, silence phase if you want a much richer option
>
>
> Hmmmm /me has vex and ist handy..... if I went that way, what benifit do I
> get? For smiting? I really havent played much in so long :/
>
>

For smite, you'll need an elite paladin shield, since they have a lot higher
base damage, and you'll need to max holy shield. I built a smiter paladin
and he was able to get to a respectable 1000-1500 smite damage with maxed
smite, holy shield, and fanaticism, using Hand of Blessed Light and a 4D
sacred targe. I haven't tried dueling with this pally, though.

[ss01]

HF is part of the paladin skill tree. No one is prevented in using HF.
Probably Clegclaw and Nosferatu coil is not allowed in pvp.

silvre

tcells <tce...@Xcapmon.com> wrote in message

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[tcells]

ss01 wrote in message ...

>HF is part of the paladin skill tree. No one is prevented in using HF.
>Probably Clegclaw and Nosferatu coil is not allowed in pvp.
>
>silvre
>

I agree with you. However, that doesn't change the fact that HF in pally vs
pally duels is generally frowned upon.

[mika vastamaa]

I might be wrong but fair duels include not wearing more than one absorb
item per element, i.e. only one raven, no TGV if with LS, etc.

- Mika

[Erik Winkels]

"short" <sho...@zoominternet.net> wrote on Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:18:00 -0500:
>
> I would just get 6 or so FRW small charms, and forget the Vigor.

Do put at least one point in Vigor. You need all the speed you can
get when duelling amazons, both to avoid GA's and to be faster than
the amazon herself to make her play your game and not you hers.

[short]

"Buddabing" <budd...@nospaam.houston.rr.com> wrote in message

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I would have had a pretty nifty Pally shield to donate, but I lost it (along
with a bunch of waypoints) in a rollback. Had some pretty hefty defense, 23
resistall, 39% ED and some other crap. I hate losing stuff to Bnut.

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[Siavash Behdashti]

Duel me, whenever you're done. I think it'd be funny.

Classes a paladin can beat:
Necro
Sorc

Classes a paladin can easily be beaten by:
Barb
Amazon

Classes that can beat a paladin:
Any. (Yes, a druid can beat a paladin.)

I'm talking best possible gear here. =(

[Buddabing]

> Any. (Yes, a druid can beat a paladin.)
>

I think that a FoH + Holy Freeze/Conviction pally will make short work of a
druid. A smiter can turn on holy freeze, freeze the druid, and smite away.
The druid will be stun-locked.

In theory, anyway. :)
Are you on Europe or Asia 3?