Advocates are whipping me bad, HELP!!!
reddog
i need big time help, advocates are wearing me out in nightmare level. I
don't know what to do, they won't follow me out of the room so i can take
them separately.
level 33 warrior
ac124
st 204
mag 98
dex 108
vit 163
i realize i am a little magic heavy for a warrior, it's the zodiac rings
that are doing it.
any help would be greatly appreciated
segal lvl 33 warrior
Hai Wong
> i need big time help, advocates are wearing me out in nightmare level. I
> don't know what to do, they won't follow me out of the room so i can take
> them separately.
You might have heard this a lot but how high is your fire resist? I was
able to do nightmare/hell using a warrior with 0% resist but it was HARD.
With maxed fire resist (75%) your character will only take one-fourth of
the damage done by the advocates' fireballs. Even 50% or so will help a
lot. Keep those jewels, helms, or shields with +resist prefixes but
useless or no suffixes for these occasions. Slap on the items with the
resist you need, do your thing, and switch back to your normal gear
afterwards. When facing monsters that do a lot of magic or fire damage,
resists are more important than stats.
Several advocates clumped together can be a real pain(just wait until you
try hell level :) What you can do is run around is front of them,
avoiding their fireballs. The group will eventually break apart as they
teleport to different places. Run out of the room and wait for them to
stop shooting. When you go back in, you should be able to take one or
two of them at a time without the whole group hitting you from the same
angle.
If you aren't already aware of this, two things that are very useful
against advocates are the stone curse spell and a weapon of haste or
speed. Stone cursing a few of the advocates means they can teleport away
or shoot fireballs at you but it doesn't last very long. A weapon of
speed or haste will stunlock an advocate so you can kill him before he
gets away. Don't worry too much about to hit% because they don't have
much armor.
Hope all this helps...
Hai Wong
Blood-n-Guts, level 45 warrior
Stiletto, level 38 rogue
Fire_Hazard, level 41 sorcerer
Cold_Steel, level 25 warrior
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Dariusz Zaremba
Another way to manage with the Advovates is using a Staff of Apocalypse. It decreases your AC of course, but gives you the ability to kill all of them.
I'm using The Bountifull Staff of Apocalypse (27 charges) during my hell/hell runs (only against triple immune) and I'm very glad of that.
BTW: What is the maximum possible capacity of any Staff of Apocalypse? I mean a legit one :o)
Have a nice Diablo runs :~)
Zetoriush, Sorceror lev. 38 [100% Legit]
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Jimmy Nilzohn
Dariusz Zaremba skrev i meddelandet
<367BAA10...@panda.bg.univ.gda.pl>...
>Hi!
>Another way to manage with the Advovates is using a Staff of Apocalypse. It
decreases your AC of course, but gives you the ability to kill all of them.
>I'm using The Bountifull Staff of Apocalypse (27 charges) during my
hell/hell runs (only against triple immune) and I'm very glad of that.
>BTW: What is the maximum possible capacity of any Staff of Apocalypse? I
mean a legit one :o)
>
>Have a nice Diablo runs :~)
> Zetoriush, Sorceror lev. 38 [100% Legit]
Apoc staves are 8-12 charges. Plentiful is 2x that (16-24), and Bountiful 3x
(24-36).
Jimmy Nilzohn
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Jimmy Nilzohn
reddog skrev i meddelandet ...
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:37:00 PDT
>
I
>don't know what to do, they won't follow me out of the room so i can take
>them separately.
>ac124
>st 204
>mag 98
>dex 108
>vit 163
>
>i realize i am a little magic heavy for a warrior, it's the zodiac rings
>that are doing it.
>any help would be greatly appreciated
Try to use a sword of Haste or Speed, with a prefix that adds to
+tohit, like Strange, Weird, Meteoric or Mithril, or even better,
both +tohit and +damage, like King's, Champion's, Master's or
Knight's.
If you don't have one of these, try stonecursing the advocates;
then you'll hit them easily.
Also do not forget Fire resistance!
DaIai Lama
>Another way to manage with the Advovates is using a Staff of Apocalypse.
His character has 98 magic, and would need 149 magic to use a staff of Apoc.
>BTW: What is the maximum possible capacity of any Staff of Apocalypse? I mean
>a legit one :o)
Apoc can go up to 12, and bountiful will triple that, so maximum number of
charges is 36.
Dalai Lama
moc.levelwoc\\:ptth
DaIai Lama
>don't know what to do, they won't follow me out of the room so i can take
>them separately.
>level 33 warrior
>ac124
>st 204
>mag 98
>dex 108
>vit 163
>
>i realize i am a little magic heavy for a warrior, it's the zodiac rings
>that are doing it.
>any help would be greatly appreciated
In addition to the advice already given, I would add the following (dependant
on whether you have these spells):
If the advocates are clumped in a group, and your firewall spell is level 4 or
better, you can zig zag in (never give them an easy target) cast a couple of
firewalls, and zig zag back out. a couple of guardians wil also thin them
out IF your guardian spell is fairly high level. If you have Golem (and you
have already killed the Bloodknights) you can send a golem in there (the
advocates will use flash against him, so he'll last a fairly long time, but a
low level golem will take forever to kill them.) One advanatge to all three of
these methods, is that the attacks will sometimes get a few of the advocates to
phase out of their clump, where you can pick them off one or two at a time.
The other method, is to load up on full life potions, and charge in with a full
belt. When you are almost dead, hit the NUMBER key for that potion (using #1
through #8) is MUCH faster than right clicking them. and when you are down to 2
potions, run back out to a safe area and restock that belt. You may get only
one or two the first time, but the next time, you will last a little longer,
the third time, you will make significantly better progress, and the fourth
should clean quite a few, if not all of them out.
Hope this helps.
Dalai Lama
moc.levelwoc\\:ptth
Nikita Synytskyy
>The other method, is to load up on full life potions, and charge in with a
full
>belt. When you are almost dead, hit the NUMBER key for that potion (using
#1
>through #8) is MUCH faster than right clicking them. and when you are down
to 2
>potions, run back out to a safe area and restock that belt. You may get
only
>one or two the first time, but the next time, you will last a little
longer,
>the third time, you will make significantly better progress, and the
fourth
>should clean quite a few, if not all of them out.
In addition to that, I usually use a weapon that deals the greatest amount
of damage (i.e. the ax). You lose some AC for not wearing a shield, but if
you use a decent ax, you can kill an advocate with one blow, so you don't
have to chase him (her?) all around the room. In hell/hell it may be a bit
difficult though, 'cause you need a very very VERY good ax.
Nikita.
Jimmy Nilzohn
Nikita Synytskyy skrev i meddelandet ...
>In addition to that, I usually use a weapon that deals the greatest amount
>of damage (i.e. the ax). You lose some AC for not wearing a shield, but if
>you use a decent ax, you can kill an advocate with one blow, so you don't
>have to chase him (her?) all around the room. In hell/hell it may be a bit
>difficult though, 'cause you need a very very VERY good ax.
Even my L50 warrior with a King's Great Axe of Speed 12-30 +99% +173%
(max damage above the 230's) can not kill a Hell/Hell Advocate in one blow,
and any axe, even of Haste or Speed is too slow to stunlock Advocates.
Sword is the way to go!
Nikita Synytskyy
>Even my L50 warrior with a King's Great Axe of Speed 12-30 +99% +173%
>(max damage above the 230's) can not kill a Hell/Hell Advocate in one blow,
>and any axe, even of Haste or Speed is too slow to stunlock Advocates.
>
>Sword is the way to go!
>
I was thinking more along the lines of Hellfire and Barbarian. He gets an
additional bonus when using an ax. But I have not tried Hell/Hell yet
because my level is too low (and my equipment sucks--compared to KAOS.)
Nikita.
K. Laisathit
Nikita Synytskyy <nik...@NOSPAMmondenet.com> wrote:
>
>In addition to that, I usually use a weapon that deals the greatest amount
>of damage (i.e. the ax). You lose some AC for not wearing a shield, but if
>you use a decent ax, you can kill an advocate with one blow, so you don't
>have to chase him (her?) all around the room. In hell/hell it may be a bit
>difficult though, 'cause you need a very very VERY good ax.
Axe? Can you stunlock the advocate with Axe of Haste? I serious doubt
that. Better stick with the usual sword of haste in any variation. In
hell/hell, you're guaranteed not to be able to kill anything in one
blow. Stunlock becomes very critical to killing advocates.
Later...
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Jimmy Nilzohn
Nikita Synytskyy skrev i meddelandet
Oh .. never thought of that.. But the original post was about a warrior :)
Well, you are of course right, a Barbarian with an axe of speed/haste
easily stuns an Hell/Hell Advocate.
DaIai Lama
>>additional bonus when using an ax. But I have not tried Hell/Hell yet
>>because my level is too low (and my equipment sucks--compared to KAOS.)
>
>
>Oh .. never thought of that.. But the original post was about a warrior :)
>Well, you are of course right, a Barbarian with an axe of speed/haste
>easily stuns an Hell/Hell Advocate.
Stuns? I guess you could call the bloody tatters left after a good swing
"stunned". It'll be interesting to see how much damage the Barbarian can
do in Diablo 2.
Dalai Lama
moc.levelwoc\\:ptth
Cameron
DaIai Lama wrote in message
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But then you'll have monsters that can do heaps back as well.
Cameron
camer...@bigpond.com.au