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Peter Sųsted

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)

And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)

As I've wrote before, I'v made a item hunt-list with my lvl 38 barbarian.
I'm only including items my barbarian or my friends characters (a bard lvl
32, sorcerer lvl 33 and a sorcerer lvl 37) could use..

In normal:
amulet of the zodiac
obsi. ring of the zidoac
obsi. ring of wizardry
jade amulet of stars
lords battle axe of speed
royal circlet
xorines ring
awesome plate of the lion

In nightmare:
masters sword of haste
ring of the heavens
mindcry
amulet of many
obsi. great helm of the lion

I spend about 3-4 hours in both normal and nightmare..

I see no real difference between items found in normal compared to items
found in nightmare.. Only the base items stat (full plate, great axe etc.)
and exp.....

Peter


ald

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Mar 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/20/99
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On Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:09:26 +0100, "Peter Sųsted"
<peter....@get2net.dk> wrote:

>Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)
>
>And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
>It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
>Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)
>

Yeah, it's only about the rarest ring (or am) in the game, which is
why so many of them are duped. The stats on that one are a little low,
but I'd still take it :-) I have yet to find a single Obs/Zod jewel,
my level 41 HF V&K Rogue finally found her first prefixed Zodiac ring
a few weeks ago, Diamond or something like that, definitely *not* Obs.


ald
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Jimmy Nilzohn

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Peter Sųsted skrev i meddelandet ...

>Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)
>
>And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
>It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
>Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)


<snipped a list of pretty great items>

Kinda good? Is it rare? IS it rare, boy!?
It's the crown jewel!

Congrats on your nice find, Peter!


..
Jimmy Nilzohn

Tommi Helminen

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Peter Sųsted wrote in message ...

>Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)
>
>And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
>It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
>Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)

Is this a rare ring you ask?!? It's the most RAREST out there lol!! I've
never even heard of anyone who would have found more than one of those, and
those who I know that have found one, I can count with the fingers of just
one hand :)
I've found only one myself, 33% resist all and +18 to all attributes, from
regular Diablo and after around 6-8 months of active Diablo playing :)
Obsidian of The Zodiac is *really* kinda good :)

-------------------------------------------------
Tommi Helminen - B.Net #3811407
www.kolumbus.fi/tommi.helminen

lvl 50 sor, El-ahrairah
lvl 41 sor, Hyzenthlay
lvl 41 war, Threa
lvl 41 sor, Nildrohain
lvl 40 rog, SSL:Tharn[OP]
lvl 40 war, SSL|Tharn[OP]

Total of 190 unique items found since 6-Feb-1999

Peter Sųsted

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Jimmy Nilzohn wrote in message ...
>
>Peter Sųsted skrev i meddelandet ...

>>Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)
>>
>>And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
>>It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
>>Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)
>
>
><snipped a list of pretty great items>

I found that my barbarian are able to find a lot better items then my
friends characters... Hm.....


>Kinda good? Is it rare? IS it rare, boy!?
>It's the crown jewel!


Weell... Guees it's huuurrraaa then :-)

>Congrats on your nice find, Peter!


Tnx... Mayby I should tried it again... :-)

>
>..
>Jimmy Nilzohn
>
>

Paladijn

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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"Peter Sųsted" wrote:
>
> Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)
>
> And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
> It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
> Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)

It's EXTREMELY rare in Diablo, don't know about HF though... It seems to
be found more often there...
<snipz>
>
> Peter

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DaIai Lama

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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>And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
>It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
>Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)

They are not all that great. In fact, I'd suggest that you ditch that one, and
send it my way. He he. Congrats!! Took me countless games and over 2 years
to find one of those beauties.

>In normal:
>amulet of the zodiac
>obsi. ring of the zidoac
>obsi. ring of wizardry
>jade amulet of stars
>lords battle axe of speed
>royal circlet
>xorines ring

Hmm, is this a single player barbarian or MP? From what I understand,
finding Xorine's ring is rather tough too, and I never saw that one :/

Barbarians do seem to be more lucky than other classes. One of the programmers
at synergistc said that they "tweaked" the barbarian to make him more lucky,
but others have pointed out that considering the time based seed for
randomization, any tweaking would cause morphing of those items if they were
passed to other non barbarian characters. Maybe it only applies to single
player Barbarians if at all?


Dalai Lama
http://www.cowlevel.com


ald

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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On 21 Mar 1999 08:32:02 GMT, daia...@aol.com (DaIai Lama) wrote:

>Hmm, is this a single player barbarian or MP? From what I understand,
>finding Xorine's ring is rather tough too, and I never saw that one :/
>

>Dalai Lama
>http://www.cowlevel.com
>

Then remind me to show it to you the next time we get into a game ;-)

Frank Bollongino

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It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.

It seems that sometimes the game is in a certain mode. You find lots of
armor, or mainly swords or king's prefixes for a couple of days. Then
the next few days it is back to rags and clubs. Is it true that the game
use date/time as some kind of seed for item generation or is it just my
imagination? We tested this theory on several machines (both stand alone
and IPX network) and all machine seem to burb up similar
items/pre-/suffixes. Anybody know???


Peter Sųsted wrote:
>
> Well... I'm starting a new thread... (Happy now Nicholas??)
>

> And yes... I found an obsidian ring of the zodiac - 100% legit.
> It gives my barbarian +36 resist. and +16 to all...
> Is this a rare ring? It's kinda good.. :-)
>

> As I've wrote before, I'v made a item hunt-list with my lvl 38 barbarian.
> I'm only including items my barbarian or my friends characters (a bard lvl
> 32, sorcerer lvl 33 and a sorcerer lvl 37) could use..
>

> In normal:
> amulet of the zodiac
> obsi. ring of the zidoac
> obsi. ring of wizardry
> jade amulet of stars
> lords battle axe of speed
> royal circlet
> xorines ring

Nicholas Knight

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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!!!!!!!
You realize that first one is nearly perfect? just ONE PERCENT resist off
from being perfect


Frank Bollongino wrote in message <36F5471E...@home.com>...

Jimmy Nilzohn

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Frank Bollongino skrev i meddelandet <36F5471E...@home.com>...

>It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.


Aaaaaaahhhhhh!!
You kidding? Please tell me it ain't true!


..
Jimmy Nilzohn


Anorexorcist

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Mar 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/21/99
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Remember the last week of '98, LOTS of good items, especially uniques, where
found then, hell, thats when I got my Rogue's Royal Circlet.
If that is the case, then finding the right date and setting your computer
to that date would be a great way to find that special item. But would it
be considered legit? I would, I dont know about some other people though.

Anorexorcist
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An0rex0rcist-L lvl 34 Sorcerer
Anorexorcist-L lvl 29 Rogue
AnorXorcist-AMZ lvl 23 Amazon Avenger
Exc-AnorXorcist lvl 16 Executioner
AnorXorcist-BNM lvl 9 BNM (0/46/0/-2)


Frank Bollongino <fboll...@home.com> wrote in message
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> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>

Tommi Helminen

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Frank Bollongino wrote in message <36F5471E...@home.com>...
>It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>


Wow man! Geez... you HAVE to play with me someday... I want to get a share
of your luck too lol! :)

DaIai Lama

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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>Remember the last week of '98, LOTS of good items, especially uniques, where
>found then, hell, thats when I got my Rogue's Royal Circlet.
>If that is the case, then finding the right date and setting your computer
>to that date would be a great way to find that special item. But would it
>be considered legit?

I'm not sure just how tiny the variance in time seeds are, but I spent a couple
of days playing Y2K bug games (all games started exactly (well on the exact
second anyway) as 1999 turned into 2000. Every single game was different.
So, depending on just how tiny a slice a time the game uses (I think I saw
where standard Cmos clock is 55 milliseconds, but not sure) you might have to
play a few thousand games, even if you know the day of a good drop.

If someone gives you the exact time of a good drop and you use it, that's no
better than duping (IMO). If you speculate and try random times, than I don't
see where you are gainining any advantage. My best games item drop wise,
tend to be games that I almost didn't play, but decided to go ahead and play
one more game, or such.

Dalai Lama
http://www.cowlevel.com


Cameron

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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I did find a +40% resists amulet recently with a suffix of ........ nothing.
I also have found numerous (well at least 3) zodiac rings recently but can I
get combinations of these or even just a jade heavens. No, and it's not
fair.

Cameron
Nicholas Knight wrote in message ...


>!!!!!!!
>You realize that first one is nearly perfect? just ONE PERCENT resist off
>from being perfect
>
>

>Frank Bollongino wrote in message <36F5471E...@home.com>...
>>It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>>levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>>ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>>try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>>zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>>

Anorexorcist

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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So in other words it would be ok to pick a random date in that week and go
with it, but not, say, go back to the exact time when the Royal Circlet
dropped?

Anorexorcist
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Anorexorcist-L lvl 37 Warrior
An0rex0rcist-L lvl 34 Sorcerer

Anorexorcist-L lvl 28 Rogue
AnorXorcist-AMZ lvl 24 Amazon Avenger


Exc-AnorXorcist lvl 16 Executioner
AnorXorcist-BNM lvl 9 BNM (0/46/0/-2)

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Paladijn

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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The seed is based upon the time you created the game... in SP, when you
save at the beginning and at the end load the game, you get the exact
game/drops

--

Anorexorcist

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Thx, for the info but the question still stands, albeit modified to fit the
new info... :)

Anorexorcist


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Purple

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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ah. primitive intuition. very handy LOL.

--
Purple
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http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
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Jeff Kusalik

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I may be new to this fourm but from others I can tell this guy
is clearly a cheat. Or he has an over reactive imagination.

Frank Bollongino wrote:

> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.

First things first, An obs/zod jewel CANNOT come out of a chest. The ONLY
things that can legitimatly drop and obs/zod jewel are: Bloodknights, Sir
Gorash, Advocates, Lazures, soul burners, and whoever there boss is. But the
jewels can be found on all dificulties.

>
>
> It seems that sometimes the game is in a certain mode. You find lots of
> armor, or mainly swords or king's prefixes for a couple of days. Then
> the next few days it is back to rags and clubs. Is it true that the game
> use date/time as some kind of seed for item generation or is it just my
> imagination? We tested this theory on several machines (both stand alone
> and IPX network) and all machine seem to burb up similar
> items/pre-/suffixes. Anybody know???

No. Items are not generated depending on the time. Diablo's engine randomly
creates items depending on: the difficulty you are playing, the dungeon level
you are on (dlvl), and the monster's level that you killed (mlvl) for a
complete breakdown on almost everything you need to know go to:
http://www.diabloii.net/jarulfsguide/jarulf_1.shtml . I am amazed al of you
seem to be veterns in this game yet you do not know these simple facts yet.
BTW Hi! My name is Jeff, I just started viewing this forum today. If anyone
wants to know where I get my info from just email me at jkus...@yahoo.com

Jeff

Nicholas Knight

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Jeff Kusalik wrote in message <36F7FB14...@yahoo.com>...

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I may be new to this fourm but from others I can tell this
guy
>is clearly a cheat. Or he has an over reactive imagination.
>
>Frank Bollongino wrote:
>
>> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>
>First things first, An obs/zod jewel CANNOT come out of a chest. The ONLY
>things that can legitimatly drop and obs/zod jewel are: Bloodknights, Sir
>Gorash, Advocates, Lazures, soul burners, and whoever there boss is. But
the
>jewels can be found on all dificulties.


Oh? then how is it that there are many stories of obsidian rings of the
zodiac popping out of chests?

>
>>
>>
>> It seems that sometimes the game is in a certain mode. You find lots of
>> armor, or mainly swords or king's prefixes for a couple of days. Then
>> the next few days it is back to rags and clubs. Is it true that the game
>> use date/time as some kind of seed for item generation or is it just my
>> imagination? We tested this theory on several machines (both stand alone
>> and IPX network) and all machine seem to burb up similar
>> items/pre-/suffixes. Anybody know???
>
>No. Items are not generated depending on the time. Diablo's engine
randomly
>creates items depending on: the difficulty you are playing, the dungeon
level
>you are on (dlvl), and the monster's level that you killed (mlvl) for a
>complete breakdown on almost everything you need to know go to:
>http://www.diabloii.net/jarulfsguide/jarulf_1.shtml . I am amazed al of you
>seem to be veterns in this game yet you do not know these simple facts yet.
>BTW Hi! My name is Jeff, I just started viewing this forum today. If
anyone
>wants to know where I get my info from just email me at jkus...@yahoo.com
>

it is a well known "fact" that different times of the day (and potentialy
different dates) have an impact on item generation. Ask anyone who has
played a lot and they'll tell you that they get better (or worse) items at
certian times.

>Jeff
>
>

Nicholas Knight

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BE MY FUCKING GUEST GO CALL MY FATHER AND EMAIL HIM AT THE (now defunct)
EMAIL ADDRESS
and while you're at it go read the interview with V&K at diabloii in it they
state that item generation is based on time

Joshua Kramer wrote in message ...
>In article <Xp%J2.14697$A6.82...@news1.teleport.com>, "Nicholas Knight"


><nn...@4077.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Kusalik wrote in message <36F7FB14...@yahoo.com>...

>> >Frank Bollongino wrote:
>> >
>> >> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>> >> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>> >> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>> >> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>> >> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>> >
>> >First things first, An obs/zod jewel CANNOT come out of a chest. The
ONLY
>> >things that can legitimatly drop and obs/zod jewel are: Bloodknights,
Sir
>> >Gorash, Advocates, Lazures, soul burners, and whoever there boss is.
But
>> >the jewels can be found on all dificulties.
>>
>>
>> Oh? then how is it that there are many stories of obsidian rings of the
>> zodiac popping out of chests?
>

>Stories are irrelevent. Read the guide. ObZods can fall out of chests on
15.


>
>> it is a well known "fact" that different times of the day (and potentialy
>> different dates) have an impact on item generation.
>

>No it's not. It is, however, a well known fact that you are a wanker. Time
>of day has no computable effect, merely a random effect.


>
>> Ask anyone who has
>> played a lot and they'll tell you that they get better (or worse) items
at
>> certian times.
>

>Anecdotal. Not relevent. Creation Time is the only determining factor as
>to item drops on levels 15 and 16, but it's randomly distributed in time.
>
>You are mininformed or lying. I tend to think that you are lying, based
>on your history, wanker. Stop poluting the fact (hell, gene) pool.
>
>You'd best not be messing up other peoples game experiences, or I will
>drop a dime on your father, child.
>
>--
>Joshua B. Kramer jkr...@sccs.swarthmore.edu
> Vote for "Jump" on MTV's Total Request live March 31!
> Info at <http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~jkramer/mtv/>
> Knight of the Ancient Garter of Romath

Jimmy Nilzohn

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Jeff Kusalik skrev i meddelandet <36F7FB14...@yahoo.com>...

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I may be new to this fourm but from others I can tell this
guy
>is clearly a cheat. Or he has an over reactive imagination.

Perhaps. Not *clearly* a cheat though!

>Frank Bollongino wrote:
>
>> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>
>First things first, An obs/zod jewel CANNOT come out of a chest. The ONLY
>things that can legitimatly drop and obs/zod jewel are: Bloodknights, Sir
>Gorash, Advocates, Lazures, soul burners, and whoever there boss is. But
the
>jewels can be found on all dificulties.

Obs/Zod jewelry are L30, and can thus be found from chests and barrles on
L15 (dlvl15*2 = 30), but ONLY on 15, since 16 has no barrels or chests.

<snip>

..
Jimmy Nilzohn

Pedro Faria / Jarulf

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On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:32:26 -0500, jkra...@swarthmore.edu (Joshua
Kramer) wrote:

>In article <j92K2.14853$A6.83...@news1.teleport.com>, "Nicholas Knight"


><nn...@4077.com> wrote:
>
>> BE MY FUCKING GUEST GO CALL MY FATHER AND EMAIL HIM AT THE (now defunct)
>> EMAIL ADDRESS
>> and while you're at it go read the interview with V&K at diabloii in it they
>> state that item generation is based on time
>

>Randomly based on time, child. All random number algorithmys are based
>on time.

Nope. At least not if you mean that you use the time/date in some way
to get some sort of initial seed.
--
Pedro Faria

Jarulf's Guide to Diablo and Hellfire
http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/

Tommi Helminen

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Jeff Kusalik wrote in message <36F7FB14...@yahoo.com>...

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I may be new to this fourm but from others I can tell this
guy
>is clearly a cheat. Or he has an over reactive imagination.
>
>Frank Bollongino wrote:
>
>> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>
>First things first, An obs/zod jewel CANNOT come out of a chest. The ONLY
>things that can legitimatly drop and obs/zod jewel are: Bloodknights, Sir
>Gorash, Advocates, Lazures, soul burners, and whoever there boss is. But
the
>jewels can be found on all dificulties.

Read your precious Jarulf's guide a bit closer... Obsidian of The Zodiac CAN
come out of a chest and barrels in dlvl 15. Would be possible to come out of
a chest in dlvl 16 too, but there ain't any there.
And Soul Burners doesn't have a boss btw. And your lists exludes Diablo with
his mlvl of 30.

>> It seems that sometimes the game is in a certain mode. You find lots of
>> armor, or mainly swords or king's prefixes for a couple of days. Then
>> the next few days it is back to rags and clubs. Is it true that the game
>> use date/time as some kind of seed for item generation or is it just my
>> imagination? We tested this theory on several machines (both stand alone
>> and IPX network) and all machine seem to burb up similar
>> items/pre-/suffixes. Anybody know???
>
>No. Items are not generated depending on the time. Diablo's engine
randomly
>creates items depending on: the difficulty you are playing, the dungeon
level
>you are on (dlvl), and the monster's level that you killed (mlvl) for a
>complete breakdown on almost everything you need to know go to:
>http://www.diabloii.net/jarulfsguide/jarulf_1.shtml . I am amazed al of you
>seem to be veterns in this game yet you do not know these simple facts yet.
>BTW Hi! My name is Jeff, I just started viewing this forum today. If
anyone
>wants to know where I get my info from just email me at jkus...@yahoo.com
>

>Jeff


The item GENERATION ain't depended on the time, but the random number
generation algorithms are.
So, as the item generation is depended on randomly generated numbers, what
then are depended on the time, item generation IS depended on the time too
via accumulation.

Anyway, welcome to the newsgroup Jeff :)

-------------------------------------------------
Tommi Helminen - B.Net #3811407
www.kolumbus.fi/tommi.helminen

lvl 50 sor, El-ahrairah
lvl 41 sor, Hyzenthlay
lvl 41 war, Threa
lvl 41 sor, Nildrohain
lvl 40 rog, SSL:Tharn[OP]
lvl 40 war, SSL|Tharn[OP]

Total of 191 unique items found since 6-Feb-1999

Purple

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actually, i think Black Jade is the Soul Burner boss. but i could be
wrong...BloodLust or Red Vex might be.

--
Purple
"1998, the Year of Contrast, brought us Viagra and Linda Tripp."
http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
"Multitasking: noun: screwing up several things at once"

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Jimmy Nilzohn

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Purple skrev i meddelandet <7decn5$att$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>...

>actually, i think Black Jade is the Soul Burner boss. but i could be
>wrong...BloodLust or Red Vex might be.


Wrong. Because all three of those are on L15 regardless if there are
Soulburners or not.

..
Jimmy Nilzohn

Pedro Faria / Jarulf

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On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:20:53 -0500, "Purple"
<annih...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>actually, i think Black Jade is the Soul Burner boss. but i could be
>wrong...BloodLust or Red Vex might be.

The only soulburner boss is Fleshdancer, set to appear on level 16. As
we all know, soulburners will never appear on level 16 so you will
never see her. Feel free to check it all out at:

http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/data/datad7.txt

ald

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On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:36:08 GMT, pedro...@chemeng.lth.*se (Pedro
Faria / Jarulf) wrote:

>The only soulburner boss is Fleshdancer, set to appear on level 16. As
>we all know, soulburners will never appear on level 16 so you will
>never see her. Feel free to check it all out at:
>
>http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/data/datad7.txt
>--
>Pedro Faria
>
>Jarulf's Guide to Diablo and Hellfire
>http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/

Or check her out in HF V&K. I just checked, I have a screenshot of her
on level 15.

Peter Sųsted

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Yep.. Ald's right.

Just killed her on lvl 15 in HF V&K.

Peter

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Purple

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LOL!

whoever programmed the Fleshdancer, then, must be a dumbarse ;)
if not, and he was just misinformed, then GEEZ, Blizzard!!!!!

--
Purple
"1998, the Year of Contrast, brought us Viagra and Linda Tripp."
http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
"Multitasking: noun: screwing up several things at once"

Pedro Faria / Jarulf wrote in message <36fac7fb....@news.lth.se>...


>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:20:53 -0500, "Purple"
><annih...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>actually, i think Black Jade is the Soul Burner boss. but i could be
>>wrong...BloodLust or Red Vex might be.
>

Purple

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we aren't talking about HF V&K :)

--
Purple
"1998, the Year of Contrast, brought us Viagra and Linda Tripp."
http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
"Multitasking: noun: screwing up several things at once"

Peter Sųsted wrote in message ...


>Yep.. Ald's right.
>
>Just killed her on lvl 15 in HF V&K.
>
>Peter
>
>ald <10317...@compuserv.com> wrote in message
><36fb1d85...@news.erols.com>...
>>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:36:08 GMT, pedro...@chemeng.lth.*se (Pedro
>>Faria / Jarulf) wrote:
>>

>>>The only soulburner boss is Fleshdancer, set to appear on level 16. As
>>>we all know, soulburners will never appear on level 16 so you will
>>>never see her. Feel free to check it all out at:
>>>
>>>http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/data/datad7.txt
>>>--
>>>Pedro Faria
>>>
>>>Jarulf's Guide to Diablo and Hellfire
>>>http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/
>>

Purple

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chests *CAN* drop obs/zod rings
it's all in this simple formula:
dlvl * 2 = chest ilvl
so, the only place where you can get an obs/zod from chests is level 15 (you
could get it on 16---if there were chests there :)
same thing goes for barrels.


also, the taunting (IMO) in the beginning of your post was uncalled for.
please stop or go away. newbies don't dis vets; they have a habit of laying
face-down on the floor >:)


--
Purple
"1998, the Year of Contrast, brought us Viagra and Linda Tripp."
http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
"Multitasking: noun: screwing up several things at once"

Jeff Kusalik wrote in message <36F7FB14...@yahoo.com>...


>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I may be new to this fourm but from others I can tell this
guy
>is clearly a cheat. Or he has an over reactive imagination.
>
>Frank Bollongino wrote:
>
>> It is rare indeed. However one night I made a run through the hell
>> levels in nightmare mode and out of a chest (!!!) popped an obsidian
>> ring of the zodiac (+39, +20). Now i just had to start a new game and
>> try again. Surprise surprise, out of another chest popped a obs amu of
>> zod (+40, +18). After that night never again of course.
>
>First things first, An obs/zod jewel CANNOT come out of a chest. The ONLY
>things that can legitimatly drop and obs/zod jewel are: Bloodknights, Sir
>Gorash, Advocates, Lazures, soul burners, and whoever there boss is. But
the
>jewels can be found on all dificulties.
>
>>
>>

Anorexorcist

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There are also bosses set to appear on lvls such as 28.... :)

Anorexorcist
--
Anorexorcist-L lvl 38 Warrior
An0rex0rcist-L lvl 34 Sorcerer
Anorexorcist-L lvl 29 Rogue
AnorXorcist-AMZ lvl 27 Amazon Heroine
Exc-AnorXorcist lvl 19 Executioner
AnorXorcist-BNM lvl 13 BNM (0/66/0/-2)


Purple <annih...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> LOL!
>
> whoever programmed the Fleshdancer, then, must be a dumbarse ;)
> if not, and he was just misinformed, then GEEZ, Blizzard!!!!!
>

> --
> Purple
> "1998, the Year of Contrast, brought us Viagra and Linda Tripp."
> http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
> "Multitasking: noun: screwing up several things at once"
>

> Pedro Faria / Jarulf wrote in message <36fac7fb....@news.lth.se>...
> >On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:20:53 -0500, "Purple"
> ><annih...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >>actually, i think Black Jade is the Soul Burner boss. but i could be
> >>wrong...BloodLust or Red Vex might be.
> >

Peter Sųsted

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And... :-) LOL


Purple wrote in message <7dh0ep$hc3$1...@camel21.mindspring.com>...


>we aren't talking about HF V&K :)
>

>--
>Purple
>"1998, the Year of Contrast, brought us Viagra and Linda Tripp."
>http://www.angelfire.com/md/PurpleDragon2/
>"Multitasking: noun: screwing up several things at once"
>

>Peter Sųsted wrote in message ...
>>Yep.. Ald's right.
>>
>>Just killed her on lvl 15 in HF V&K.
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>ald <10317...@compuserv.com> wrote in message
>><36fb1d85...@news.erols.com>...
>>>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:36:08 GMT, pedro...@chemeng.lth.*se (Pedro
>>>Faria / Jarulf) wrote:
>>>

>>>>The only soulburner boss is Fleshdancer, set to appear on level 16. As
>>>>we all know, soulburners will never appear on level 16 so you will
>>>>never see her. Feel free to check it all out at:
>>>>
>>>>http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/data/datad7.txt
>>>>--
>>>>Pedro Faria
>>>>
>>>>Jarulf's Guide to Diablo and Hellfire
>>>>http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo/
>>>

Michael Ben-Tovim

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Don't you call me a cheat, I think I am one of the few legit characters
on the Bnet (it seems watching others with Dsight). Both jewels DID come
out of a chest. If you read Jafulfs guide you will also read that some
chests drop items with 2*dlvl instead of dlvl. That is what must have
happened. You really must be new to the forum and to the game.

Frank Bollongino (aka tiberian)

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