Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Princess Morgiah problem

399 views
Skip to first unread message

Ian Holmes

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 10:20:58 AM11/4/01
to
I've got a bug in the game that I'm having trouble with. About a month or
two after completing the Princess Morgiah quest to Scourg Barrow, a page
with the rose of Wayrest gives me an engraved card. But when I look in my
inventory that card is not there or anything else new. How do I fix this
bug?


Wes

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 12:23:10 PM11/4/01
to

Ian Holmes wrote:

It is an old bug. Nothing really to fix. It does not effect the game or give
you another quest. A bug patch was posted by Tipton I think a couple of weeks
back.

Princess Morgiah

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 3:38:51 PM11/4/01
to
"Ian Holmes" <ianh...@optusnet.com.au> schreef in bericht
news:3be55c7b$0$3443$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...

No need to fix this bug, it's just a message to let you know you're invited
to my wedding. Please do bring a gift ;)

Princess Morgiah


Ian Holmes

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 5:09:55 PM11/4/01
to

"Princess Morgiah" <princess...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vHhF7.4355$8c3.45...@hebe.telenet-ops.be...
WHEN AND WHERE? By the way how do you know this? Doesn't this bug exist on
your version of Daggerfall? If not is there a patch that fixes this
specific bug?


Princess Morgiah

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 6:40:01 PM11/4/01
to

"Ian Holmes" <ianh...@optusnet.com.au> schreef in bericht
news:3be5bc67$0$21956$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...

The reason I know is because I am Princess Morgiah ;)

No seriously, this is a known bug and some people on this NG found out that
this was a wedding invitation. If you look at the contents of some of the
files in the arena2 directory, there is evidence of such a wedding
(apparently).

As far as I know, the bug appears on every version of Daggerfall, and there
is no official patch.

Recently, Donald Tipton posted a message about this very bug. I'm relying on
somebody else to post a URL to the site, I don't have it with me at the
moment.

Princess Morgiah


Princess Morgiah

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 6:42:51 PM11/4/01
to
"J.O. Vermeulen" <j-ver...@chello.dutch> schreef in bericht
news:_ZjF7.484593$2n1.17668152@Flipper...
> Still not married, are ye? Maybe next time you shouldn't use those new
> invisible invitations, but stay with the old ways. Perhaps a mummy with a
> 'kick me' note?
> :-)

Still single indeed. I did not fancy the idea of giving up my castle for
Scourg Barrow ;)

Oh no, I couldn't possibly do that. I can see it already: a mummy on a
couch, working with his shrink trying to figure out why everyone near him
reacts so hostile to his appearance...

Princess Morgiah


Donald Tipton

unread,
Nov 4, 2001, 8:14:25 PM11/4/01
to
In article <vHhF7.4355$8c3.45...@hebe.telenet-ops.be>,

Princess Morgiah <princess...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>No need to fix this bug, it's just a message to let you know you're invited
>to my wedding. Please do bring a gift ;)

Tsk. Every PC needs at least one royal keepsake :-)

Don

Xocyll

unread,
Nov 5, 2001, 12:00:49 AM11/5/01
to
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 23:42:51 GMT, "Princess Morgiah"
<princess...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>Oh no, I couldn't possibly do that. I can see it already: a mummy on a
>couch, working with his shrink trying to figure out why everyone near him
>reacts so hostile to his appearance...

A mummy in Shrink-wrap, oh what a mental image.

Xocyll
--
The "RTFM" bumper sticker affixed to my briefcase often prompts people to
ask "is that a radio station?"

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. -- Christian Wagner in the Monestary

Georgethe4

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 6:10:20 PM11/6/01
to
Previously,

>> I've got a bug in the game that I'm having trouble with. About a month or
>> two after completing the Princess Morgiah quest to Scourg Barrow, a page
>> with the rose of Wayrest gives me an engraved card. But when I look in my
>> inventory that card is not there or anything else new. How do I fix this
>> bug?

>No need to fix this bug, it's just a message to let you know you're invited
>to my wedding. Please do bring a gift ;)
>Princess Morgiah

I always thought this message was a summons to see Prince Helseth of Wayrest.
(He's in Castle Wayrest in the back behind some big doors.)
This quest is optional regarding completing the main story line. Just as well
perhaps.
Cool, cool
George IV

Donald Tipton

unread,
Nov 6, 2001, 7:59:24 PM11/6/01
to
In article <20011106181020...@mb-ch.aol.com>,
Georgethe4 <georg...@aol.com> wrote:
[snip]

>I always thought this message was a summons to see Prince Helseth of Wayrest.
>(He's in Castle Wayrest in the back behind some big doors.)

From Morgiah's quest, the text from the letter handed over by the
page in Wayrest livery:

King Eadwyre and
Queen Barenziah,
Sovereigns of the Kingdom
of Wayrest
Are Proud to Announce The Engagement
of Morgiah, Princess of Wayrest,
to Karoodil,
King of Firsthold
in the Isle of Sumurset.

(It looks much nicer, centered as it is in the game)

The bug is that the quest neglects to make the letter permanent
before stopping that quest, at which point it vaporizes, as is
usual with expired quest items.

Don

Brizon

unread,
Nov 7, 2001, 11:16:26 AM11/7/01
to
I guess its a few hundred years too early for a Toaster right?

--

-------
BriZon

Co-Founder & Director of VFX DarkICE fx.
===================/\===================
www.lexxpark.co.uk || www.darkicefx.co.uk
Work: +44 (0) 771 9859450 7am - 5pm GMT
Home: +44 (0) 786 6039358 5pm - 7am GMT
W: bri...@darkicefx.co.uk
H: ch...@biomechanics.fsnet.co.uk
ICQ: 124947563 || MSN: Lexxpark
===================\/===================

Princess Morgiah <princess...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vHhF7.4355$8c3.45...@hebe.telenet-ops.be...

Princess Morgiah

unread,
Nov 8, 2001, 6:38:44 PM11/8/01
to
"Brizon" <Bri...@darkicefxiaboutasfunnyasastevemartinsketch.co.uk> schreef
in bericht news:9sdof7$6l8$2...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...

> I guess its a few hundred years too early for a Toaster right?

Maybe a pet dragon as a replacement then?

Princess Morgiah


Georgethe4

unread,
Nov 9, 2001, 1:41:20 AM11/9/01
to
Previously,
>> I always thought this message was a summons to see
>> Prince Helseth of Wayrest.

> From Morgiah's quest, the text from the letter handed over by
> the page in Wayrest livery...


> to Announce The Engagement of Morgiah

How do you know the letter is about the wedding rather than from Helseth? Isn't
he also supposed to send a letter?
(I'm not saying you couldn't be right, just want to know how you figure it.)
The best guess during the NG's heyday (long past) was that this note was from
Helseth IIRC.
Cool, cool
George IV

Donald Tipton

unread,
Nov 9, 2001, 11:19:23 AM11/9/01
to
In article <20011109014120...@mb-fi.aol.com>,

Georgethe4 <georg...@aol.com> wrote:
>Previously,
>>> I always thought this message was a summons to see
>>> Prince Helseth of Wayrest.
>
>> From Morgiah's quest, the text from the letter handed over by
>> the page in Wayrest livery...
>> to Announce The Engagement of Morgiah
>
>How do you know the letter is about the wedding rather than from Helseth? Isn't
>he also supposed to send a letter?
>(I'm not saying you couldn't be right, just want to know how you figure it.)

Sure, but I didn't `figure' it, I found it--big difference as no
reasoning is required to find something. I can't figure the sand
on the beach either, but there it is. Logic suxs ;-)

There is a message box in Helseth that says

A page wearing the colors and pale yellow
rose of Wayrest appears silently at your side.
He hands you a letter and disappears as
quietly as he arrived.

but this message is never actually used by his quest script. It is
also different from the delivery text in Morgiah's quest which says

A young lad with the Rose of Wayrest embroidered
on his surcoat appears at your side, hands you an
engraved card, and disappears.

If you search the quest messages (*.qrc) for "Rose of Wayrest",
guess what? That's the only place in the quest universe where
that text appears. Everyone receives an engraved card that goes
missing. Ergo it came from Morgiah's quest. QED.

If you undertake Helseth and Elysanna simultaneous and finish Elly's
quest before Helseth, he is suppose to contact you by courier with
a gold payment for your time, instead of the usual trashy trinket:

A breathless courier shoves a leather pouch
into your hands. A cautious examination reveals
a letter and a sum of gold.

But almost no one will mistake that for a missing invitation to
meet him for the first time.

>The best guess during the NG's heyday (long past) was that this note was from
>Helseth IIRC.

I know, and I thought so too for the longest time. It makes perfect
sense. How else would we know the time is right to tap on him?
He'll ignore you until level 4, IIRC. Since Morghy waits on level 3,
it's a natural conclusion.

The quest decompiler burst that illusion. The decompiler can,
of course, be wrong. But it isn't likely in this case. The proof
is that changing Morgiah's quest to keep the letter after it
is delivered actually works.

Don

Georgethe4

unread,
Nov 10, 2001, 3:11:26 PM11/10/01
to
Previously,
>> How do you know the letter is about the wedding rather than from Helseth?

> I didn't `figure' it, I found it--big difference as
> no reasoning is required to find something...


> If you search the quest messages (*.qrc) for
> "Rose of Wayrest"

Better you than me, especially considering the abysmally low level of my
computer skills. :-)
Until I forget, which may not take as long as one might hope, I will never
again inform anyone that this message is from PH.
Thanks for the in depth response.
Cool, cool
George IV

Magnus Itland

unread,
Nov 11, 2001, 1:23:07 PM11/11/01
to

For some reason I found this image hilarious.
"Is breakfast ready yet?"
"Just a moment, honey, I'm waiting for my little pet dragon to spit
out the toast."
--
itl...@online.no The one and only Magnus Itland.
http://home.online.no/~itlandm/
"Kinda platonically cute in an odd sort of way."

Princess Morgiah

unread,
Nov 12, 2001, 3:42:46 PM11/12/01
to
"Magnus Itland" <itl...@online.no> schreef in bericht
news:3bee660f...@news.online.no...

> "Princess Morgiah" <princess...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> >"Brizon" <Bri...@darkicefxiaboutasfunnyasastevemartinsketch.co.uk>
schreef
> >in bericht news:9sdof7$6l8$2...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> >> I guess its a few hundred years too early for a Toaster right?
> >
> >Maybe a pet dragon as a replacement then?
>
> For some reason I found this image hilarious.
> "Is breakfast ready yet?"
> "Just a moment, honey, I'm waiting for my little pet dragon to spit
> out the toast."

Reminds me of that Fawlty Towers scene with John Cleese where he compares
his wife to a dragon.

"Have you ever seen my wife make toast, Polly?" after which he makes
breathing noises over his hand...

Princess Morgiah


0 new messages