Tanks escort Ore truck ? How ?

Igal Sapir

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Feb 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/7/98

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Hi,

I read here that you can get your tanks to escort your ore trucks. Can
anyone please tell me how to do that ?

Thanks :)

marco merkelijn

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Feb 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/8/98

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Select some tanks hold CTRL and Alt at the same time and do a mouse klik on
the ore truck
Igal Sapir heeft geschreven in bericht <6bjhfb$b...@ecuador.earthlink.net>...

Jason

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Feb 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/8/98

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select you tanks, press control and alt keys together and put your cursor
over the ore truck it will turn into a guard icon and then left click you
mouse. Tanks
will follow and guard the ore truck but they can get in the way and stop it
unloading so be careful. Your usually OK with one or two tanks. I usually
guard the truck with one tank then guard that tank with two more to stop
them getting in the way.

--

Jason
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
Dan Quayle
Igal Sapir wrote in message <6bjhfb$b...@ecuador.earthlink.net>...

Xinhuan

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Igal Sapir <ig...@dziners.com> wrote in article

<6bjhfb$b...@ecuador.earthlink.net>...
> Hi,
>
> I read here that you can get your tanks to escort your ore trucks. Can
> anyone please tell me how to do that ?
>
> Thanks :)

Select the units the you want to follow the Harvester around. CTRL + ALT
click on the harvester. The units selected will follow the Harvester around
wherever it goes. The units will not attack anything unless they are
stationary and the enemy is whithin range. The units will immediately
attack anything that attacks the Harvester or the tanks itself.

You can use this escort thingy with any unit.

--
From Xinhuan at <xin...@cyberway.com.sg>

Igal Sapir

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Feb 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/8/98

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COOL!

Thanks everybody for your input!

Igal :)

Igal Sapir wrote in message <6bjhfb$b...@ecuador.earthlink.net>...

Chris Monger

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Feb 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/9/98

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I am replying to the article titled:-
Tanks escort Ore truck ? How ?
I think Xinhuan <xin...@cyberway.com.sg> wrote:-

>Igal Sapir <ig...@dziners.com> wrote in article

><6bjhfb$b...@ecuador.earthlink.net>...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I read here that you can get your tanks to escort your ore trucks. Can
>> anyone please tell me how to do that ?
>>
>> Thanks :)
>

>Select the units the you want to follow the Harvester around. CTRL + ALT
>click on the harvester. The units selected will follow the Harvester around
>wherever it goes. The units will not attack anything unless they are
>stationary and the enemy is whithin range. The units will immediately
>attack anything that attacks the Harvester or the tanks itself.
>
>You can use this escort thingy with any unit.
>

Not with V2s
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UIN:2952253

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Xinhuan

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Feb 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/12/98

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Chris Monger <Ch...@monger.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<xqz7raA4...@monger.demon.co.uk>...

> >
> >You can use this escort thingy with any unit.
> >
>
> Not with V2s

Actually you can, but only that the V2s will have a hard time catching up
with faster units and that the V2s will probably be destroyed while
defending against any unit.

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From Xinhuan at <xin...@cyberway.com.sg>

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Nightraven

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Feb 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/16/98

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any one ever heard RTFM???

Laidher.
Night...@psynet.net

ksf

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98

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RTFM?
Never heard of it...
As for the original post, try Ctrl-Alt...

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Ian

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Jun 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/30/98

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This Bloke is completely right, you use Ctrl-Alt and the curser and the
curser changes to a yellow colour, but this is not restricted to ore trucks,
you can escort anything, you can get a tank to escort a civilian if you
wanted to, but i normally use it if i'm going to start a second base, i
escort the MCV with about 8 formationed tanks. Oh and person whooriginally
posted the message should have read the bloody manual.
ksf wrote in message <88773860...@wagasa.cts.com>...

Walter McDonnell

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Jul 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/6/98

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i have tried the ctrl, alt and click, but nothing happens!! my units never
follow

Ozjish Kahn

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Jul 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/6/98

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Then you have a lousy Ctrl.

Buddy Master

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Jul 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/6/98

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You should get a gold cursor when you hold down <CTRL> and <ALT>

The Buddy Master

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Dyldo Sides

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On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:27:11 -0400, "Walter McDonnell"
<Walt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>i have tried the ctrl, alt and click, but nothing happens!! my units never
>follow
>

Select units that will be protecting the OT....Press ctrl & alt...your
cursor will turn to a gold colour.....click on OT......Certain units
can't be used to escort the OT....MGG is one of these IIRC.

Dyldo Sides
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A: Cut off his fingers.

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http://www.planetcnc.com/redalert

Zagadka

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YoJo wrote in message <6nuqrp$c4v$1...@news1.iamerica.net>...
>It's Alt.+Ctrl. not Ctrl.
> Desert Fox

Hey, that's my nick. In the name of Rommel, give it back.

A.M. Farley

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To make units guard another unit its either (ctrl or shift) + alt left click.
You will notice that the placement cursor goes red. Also good for making units
guard a mammoth tank, so you can convoy them without too much attention. This is
documented in the C&C readme ( where you will probably find I've got it wildly
wrong ).

--
Andy Farley

"The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest." ...Kilgore Trout

Dries Staelens

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98

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select the tanks, press ctrl+alt WAIT until the cursor changes and click
then left on the ore truck

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YoJo wrote in message <6oltcd$b7v$1...@news1.iamerica.net>...
>

>The Mythical Alex wrote in message <6olc3c$6...@news3.force9.net>...
>>
>>Zagadka wrote in message <6nv2mq$hfv$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>>>YoJo wrote in message <6nuqrp$c4v$1...@news1.iamerica.net>...
>>>>It's Alt.+Ctrl. not Ctrl.
>>>> Desert Fox
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey, that's my nick. In the name of Rommel, give it back.
>>
>>
>>I think that if you said "In the name of Montgomery, give it back." it
>would
>>have more effect. Remember, Rommel was a loser.
>>
>>

>If you want that name, what name can I have. If you make no suggestions I
>keep it.
> Desert Fox

Cool deal.

I could make a few suggestions - you probably wouldn't like them ,though.
:-)

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Ozjish Kahn wrote in message <35AF48B3...@xs4all.nl>...

>Zagadka wrote:
>
>> The Mythical Alex wrote in message <6olc3c$6...@news3.force9.net>...
>> >
>> >Zagadka wrote in message <6nv2mq$hfv$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>> >>YoJo wrote in message <6nuqrp$c4v$1...@news1.iamerica.net>...
>> >>>It's Alt.+Ctrl. not Ctrl.

>> >>> Desert Fox
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hey, that's my nick. In the name of Rommel, give it back.
>> >
>> >
>> >I think that if you said "In the name of Montgomery, give it back." it
>> would
>> >have more effect. Remember, Rommel was a loser.
>>

>> Oh, whine whine whine. Montgomery landed with a force 3 times the size of
>> Rommel's, and Rommel had no supplies. And he was outflanked.
>
> Excuses, excuses, excuses...

Mobile Warfare tends to be a tad restricted when, well, you have no fuel.

I've seen the charts. Its like:

German infantry XXXXXXX
Italian infantry XXXX
German tanks XXXXXXXXXXXX
Italian tanks XXXXXXXXX
German Artillery XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
British infantry XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
British Tanks XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
British arti XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

And the italian stuff is all crap... i mean, they attack Egypt with a
superior force (in numbers) and ended up losing almost everything. That was
the first great mvoement; with the Italians running across the desert,
runnign out of supplies, then getting hte shit kicked out of them by Brit
forces who chased them. Thats what Rommel learned from. What was his name...
Auchlend? Auch something, the Brit commander... he was pretty sharp, too....

Zagadka

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James wrote in message ...

>Poster: The Mythical Alex <Al...@crosby.force9.co.ukNimspimiusanddontyouf
>orgetit>
>Group: alt.games.redalert
>Subject: Tanks escort Ore truck ? How ?
>>

>>Zagadka wrote in message <6nv2mq$hfv$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>>>YoJo wrote in message <6nuqrp$c4v$1...@news1.iamerica.net>...
>>>>It's Alt.+Ctrl. not Ctrl.
>>>> Desert Fox
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey, that's my nick. In the name of Rommel, give it back.
>>
>>
>>I think that if you said "In the name of Montgomery, give it back." it
would
>>have more effect. Remember, Rommel was a loser.
>>

>You must not insult Brian's country, family, or lifelong heros (not in
>that order)... :o)

Add my family to that list.

James

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Poster: Zagadka <b...@pagecaster.com>

Group: alt.games.redalert
Subject: Tanks escort Ore truck ? How ?

>>You must not insult Brian's country, family, or lifelong heros (not in
>>that order)... :o)
>
>Add my family to that list.

Please re-read the list... I'd included it already...
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Zagadka

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James wrote in message ...

>Poster: Zagadka <b...@pagecaster.com>
>Group: alt.games.redalert
>Subject: Tanks escort Ore truck ? How ?
>>>You must not insult Brian's country, family, or lifelong heros (not in
>>>that order)... :o)
>>
>>Add my family to that list.
>
>Please re-read the list... I'd included it already...

Er...

You insultin' my family?

Zagadka

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Ozjish Kahn wrote in message <35AFCDDE...@xs4all.nl>...
>>
>
>Zagadka told us in a historic mood:
>
>Yeah, well... the Italians used tanks which were not worthy the name
"tank". It
>had a far too weak cannon and far too many machine-guns, which were of no
use
>against British tanks. And its hull was made of pudding. In the end, Rommel
used
>the Italians to slow down the English (and be all but annihilated) to give
his
>own army a chance to escape. There's a movie of that, but I don't recall
it's
>name.

There's a movie called "The Road to Benghazi" made by Italy durign the war
that shows Brits running like chickens, Germans hiding, and triumphant
Italian troops parading everywhere. When Rommel saw it he said "Excellent. I
often wondered what happened at that battle."

See, even my histroical favorites are sarcastics sobs...

The Italian tanks were about 15 years behind everyoen else. Most of their
equipment was left over from WWI and the 20s. Their troops were generally
panzies that Rommel couldn't rely on, so he used them to fake troop
movements and concentrations.

>And don't forget the British airforce. They too played a significant
anti-tank
>role, especially the last version of the Hawker Hurricane, which had two
40mm
>cannons, leaving nothing left of German tanks.

Did you know (probably not) that Rommel had a personal conflict with
Goerring? And with general High Command... hehe...

RAF RAF RAF. Actually, the RAF is quite admirable. Would be more so if they
didn't end up with such strong odds. :-) But during the Battle of Britain...
Similar to Midway.

>And about the fuel... the Germans learned nothing, 'cause a year later they
lost
>the Battle of the Bulge (Ardennes-offensive) because of the same reason.

The germans never learn anything (sorry Dirk). Hitler was a complete
tactical moron. If he weren't, he would have either invaded or left Britain
then concentrated on taking Egypt... or vice versa... from Egypt he has the
Middle East with all the damn oil. Then he can doa pinchers on Russia... but
nooooo... well, it is for the better that he was inept...

And Rommel also wanted (after Africa and Italy he was moved to France) to
pull the remaining Panzers on the western line to actively guard the beaches
around NW france... i.e. Normandy... that would have kinda sucked, eh? But I
suppose he would have toppled Hitler before then and offered peace...

YoJo

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I DO NOT claim the name "YoJo", if I knew how to change it I would.

Desert Fox
The Raven wrote in message ...

>In article <6oltcd$b7v$1...@news1.iamerica.net>, YoJo <yo...@poncacity.net>
>writes

>>>>> Desert Fox
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey, that's my nick. In the name of Rommel, give it back.
>>>
>>>
>>>I think that if you said "In the name of Montgomery, give it back." it
>>would
>>>have more effect. Remember, Rommel was a loser.
>>>
>>>

Zagadka

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YoJo wrote in message <6op55j$99h$1...@news1.iamerica.net>...

>I DO NOT claim the name "YoJo", if I knew how to change it I would.
>
>Desert Fox

Know what? screw it. keep the name. i dont; know why i cared in the first
place...

you guys have to whack me 'cross the side of the head when I am being (too -
and not by YOUR definitions) stupid...

Ozjish Kahn

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>

Zagadka told us in a historic mood:

> Mobile Warfare tends to be a tad restricted when, well, you have no fuel.

>
> I've seen the charts. Its like:
>
> German infantry XXXXXXX
> Italian infantry XXXX
> German tanks XXXXXXXXXXXX
> Italian tanks XXXXXXXXX
> German Artillery XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> British infantry XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> British Tanks XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> British arti XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
> And the italian stuff is all crap... i mean, they attack Egypt with a
> superior force (in numbers) and ended up losing almost everything. That was
> the first great mvoement; with the Italians running across the desert,
> runnign out of supplies, then getting hte shit kicked out of them by Brit
> forces who chased them. Thats what Rommel learned from. What was his name...
> Auchlend? Auch something, the Brit commander... he was pretty sharp, too....

Yeah, well... the Italians used tanks which were not worthy the name "tank". It

had a far too weak cannon and far too many machine-guns, which were of no use
against British tanks. And its hull was made of pudding. In the end, Rommel used
the Italians to slow down the English (and be all but annihilated) to give his
own army a chance to escape. There's a movie of that, but I don't recall it's
name.

And don't forget the British airforce. They too played a significant anti-tank
role, especially the last version of the Hawker Hurricane, which had two 40mm
cannons, leaving nothing left of German tanks.

And about the fuel... the Germans learned nothing, 'cause a year later they lost

the Battle of the Bulge (Ardennes-offensive) because of the same reason.

Ozjish Kahn

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Jul 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/18/98

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>

Zagadka told us:

> There's a movie called "The Road to Benghazi" made by Italy durign the war
> that shows Brits running like chickens, Germans hiding, and triumphant
> Italian troops parading everywhere. When Rommel saw it he said "Excellent. I
> often wondered what happened at that battle."
>

(Grin)What did Goebbels say? By the way, that was not the movie I talked about,
that was a English one (!) made in the 60's or 70's. The time of the great war
movies.

> See, even my histroical favorites are sarcastics sobs...

Too bad he was at the wrong side.

> The Italian tanks were about 15 years behind everyoen else. Most of their
> equipment was left over from WWI and the 20s. Their troops were generally
> panzies that Rommel couldn't rely on, so he used them to fake troop
> movements and concentrations.
>

> >And don't forget the British airforce. They too played a significant
> anti-tank
> >role, especially the last version of the Hawker Hurricane, which had two
> 40mm
> >cannons, leaving nothing left of German tanks.
>

> Did you know (probably not) that Rommel had a personal conflict with
> Goerring? And with general High Command... hehe...

> RAF RAF RAF. Actually, the RAF is quite admirable. Would be more so if they
> didn't end up with such strong odds. :-) But during the Battle of Britain...
> Similar to Midway.

No, the Americans were not outnumbered as much as the British at that time. The
Japs didn't know that there was such a large American naval force. But that's
another (quite interesting) story.

> >And about the fuel... the Germans learned nothing, 'cause a year later they
> lost
> >the Battle of the Bulge (Ardennes-offensive) because of the same reason.
>

> The germans never learn anything (sorry Dirk). Hitler was a complete
> tactical moron.

Hitler was a COMPLETE moron : )

If he weren't, he would have either invaded or left Britain, then concentrated

on taking Egypt... or vice versa... from Egypt he has the

> Middle East with all the damn oil. Then he can doa pinchers on Russia... but
> nooooo... well, it is for the better that he was inept...

Well... he planned to, but the #$^% Russians stood in his way. And Montgomery.
It's good that Operation Torch (invasion of Africa) took place so "early"
because otherwise they WOULD have done it and maybe won the war.

> And Rommel also wanted (after Africa and Italy he was moved to France) to
> pull the remaining Panzers on the western line to actively guard the beaches
> around NW france... i.e. Normandy... that would have kinda sucked, eh? But I
> suppose he would have toppled Hitler before then and offered peace...

No, Rommel was a German officer. That meant he always did as he was told, like
any German officer. Hitler called him a coward, because at the time of the
invasion, he was at home with his wife (because he was ill)...

Ozjish Kahn

The Mythical Alex

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Zagadka wrote in message <6opcqt$7vs$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

>you guys have to whack me 'cross the side of the head when I am being
(too -
>and not by YOUR definitions) stupid...

They can do it when you're being stupid, and I can do it when you aren't.
Sounds fair.

Zagadka

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Ozjish Kahn wrote in message <35B0BBD6...@xs4all.nl>...

>>
>
>Zagadka told us:
>
>> There's a movie called "The Road to Benghazi" made by Italy durign the
war
>> that shows Brits running like chickens, Germans hiding, and triumphant
>> Italian troops parading everywhere. When Rommel saw it he said
"Excellent. I
>> often wondered what happened at that battle."
>>
>
>(Grin)What did Goebbels say? By the way, that was not the movie I talked
about,
>that was a English one (!) made in the 60's or 70's. The time of the great
war
>movies.

Great war movies... ah... *sighs in memory of all the long lazy saturdays
watching old war movies...*

>> See, even my histroical favorites are sarcastics sobs...
>
>Too bad he was at the wrong side.

Kinda. He was killed for being involved in the plot to kill hitler and
topple the Nazi regime. Hell, he was goign to the the fucking President.

>> The Italian tanks were about 15 years behind everyoen else. Most of their
>> equipment was left over from WWI and the 20s. Their troops were generally
>> panzies that Rommel couldn't rely on, so he used them to fake troop
>> movements and concentrations.
>>
>> >And don't forget the British airforce. They too played a significant
>> anti-tank
>> >role, especially the last version of the Hawker Hurricane, which had two
>> 40mm
>> >cannons, leaving nothing left of German tanks.
>>
>> Did you know (probably not) that Rommel had a personal conflict with
>> Goerring? And with general High Command... hehe...
>
>> RAF RAF RAF. Actually, the RAF is quite admirable. Would be more so if
they
>> didn't end up with such strong odds. :-) But during the Battle of
Britain...
>> Similar to Midway.
>
>No, the Americans were not outnumbered as much as the British at that time.
The
>Japs didn't know that there was such a large American naval force. But
that's
>another (quite interesting) story.

Oh, it was only 3 American carriers on 5 Japs + their support fleets.

And yes, that is a helluva interesting story. Can't you see the confusion?
"Carriers? Where?" "huh? Torp planes? Uh... launch ours. Yea."

You've gotta love the classic line from the movie: "Are we better than the
Japanese, or just luckier?"

>> >And about the fuel... the Germans learned nothing, 'cause a year later
they
>> lost
>> >the Battle of the Bulge (Ardennes-offensive) because of the same reason.
>>
>> The germans never learn anything (sorry Dirk). Hitler was a complete
>> tactical moron.
>
>Hitler was a COMPLETE moron : )

If he was a complete moron he wouldn't have won political support and power.

>If he weren't, he would have either invaded or left Britain, then
concentrated
>on taking Egypt... or vice versa... from Egypt he has the
>> Middle East with all the damn oil. Then he can doa pinchers on Russia...
but
>> nooooo... well, it is for the better that he was inept...
>
>Well... he planned to, but the #$^% Russians stood in his way. And
Montgomery.

Montgomery was a pansy. He had a shitload of tanks, though.

He didn't HAVE to fight hte Soviets... he could have waited a while longer.

>It's good that Operation Torch (invasion of Africa) took place so "early"
>because otherwise they WOULD have done it and maybe won the war.

Operatoin Torch was brilliant. The basic design was simple. Land a bunch of
Americans and Brits/COmmonwealthers on both flanks of the Korps, drive to
Tunisia, then to Italy. Use Patton to gain attention. Later, take Patton to
England and have him build up aa fake invasion force along the coast of
northern france, and have another group under- guess who? hehe- and hit them
from the nw...

>> And Rommel also wanted (after Africa and Italy he was moved to France) to
>> pull the remaining Panzers on the western line to actively guard the
beaches
>> around NW france... i.e. Normandy... that would have kinda sucked, eh?
But I
>> suppose he would have toppled Hitler before then and offered peace...
>
>No, Rommel was a German officer. That meant he always did as he was told,
like
>any German officer. Hitler called him a coward, because at the time of the
>invasion, he was at home with his wife (because he was ill)...

No, Rommel was a German officer who High Command hated because he DIDN'T do
as told. He started fighting the Brits before his other division arrived,
contrary to orders. He pressed the attack, contrary to orders. He skipped
Tobruk, contrary to orders. He violated orders in Italy, and then in France
he wanted to violate them again.

He was at home with his wife because he had permanent illnesses from being
in the desert so long while sick, and because he was in a car accident.
That was AFTER the attempt to kill Hitler failed and Rommel was waiting for
the revolution to topple.

Ozjish Kahn

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Zagadka wrote:

> >> See, even my histroical favorites are sarcastics sobs...
> >
> >Too bad he was at the wrong side.
>
> Kinda. He was killed for being involved in the plot to kill hitler and
> topple the Nazi regime. Hell, he was goign to the the fucking President.
>

President Rommel? If you were a Dutchman, you would be ROFLYAOPYP.

> >No, the Americans were not outnumbered as much as the British at that time.
> The
> >Japs didn't know that there was such a large American naval force. But
> that's
> >another (quite interesting) story.
>
> Oh, it was only 3 American carriers on 5 Japs + their support fleets.
>
> And yes, that is a helluva interesting story. Can't you see the confusion?
> "Carriers? Where?" "huh? Torp planes? Uh... launch ours. Yea."
>
> You've gotta love the classic line from the movie: "Are we better than the
> Japanese, or just luckier?"

Better? Naah. Jill-divebombers were quite lousy, but so were Devastators. And
for the fighters: the Americans flew "Overloaded Fuel-Tankers" (Japanese name
for Wildcats). The Japs flew Zero's. Say no more: the Americans were lucky.

> >Hitler was a COMPLETE moron : )
>
> If he was a complete moron he wouldn't have won political support and power.

Still, he was a complete moron.

> >Well... he planned to, but the #$^% Russians stood in his way. And
> Montgomery.
>
> Montgomery was a pansy. He had a shitload of tanks, though.

When you're a pansy, you don't ride up France that fast as he did in 44. Even
when you've got a shitload of tanks.