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3-4-3 Owen: Magic or a bug?

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Khan

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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It’s totally unbelievable!

After I started using it I’m winning all my games with around 8-12 to
nothing!

One match ended 14-0!!! (Ortega made 11 goals)

Before, I was using a 4-2-3-1 tactic, and I was winning too, but only 2-1
2-0 3-2 and so on.

I'm halfway into the season and Ortega already has made 89 goals!

This is fantastic, but frankly a bit boring too.

Is there anyone else winning in these unbelievable heights?

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Nick Amis

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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...

>It’s totally unbelievable!
>After I started using it I’m winning all my games with around 8-12 to
>nothing!
>Is there anyone else winning in these unbelievable heights?


I won the Italian league with Inter with 6 games left, so I tried this
tactic called Jelles which is a bit like 3-4-3 Owen to see if it worked
better than the usual 4-1-2-1-2. I won all the last matches by about 7-8
goals. It was quite ridiculous. And no, it wasn't fun.

Having said, it was too easy with the normal formation too, I only lost one
match all season (to Arsenal in Champ Lge semi). And I didn't even buy
anyone beyond the standard Inter squad!

Negative Creep

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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On Thu, 27 May 1999 04:31:39 +0200, "Khan"
<Khan2*nospam*@softhome.net> sauntered into the group and groaned:

>It’s totally unbelievable!
>
not really, it just takes advantage of a "loophole" in the
programming.

>After I started using it I’m winning all my games with around 8-12 to
>nothing!
>

>One match ended 14-0!!! (Ortega made 11 goals)
>
>Before, I was using a 4-2-3-1 tactic, and I was winning too, but only 2-1
>2-0 3-2 and so on.
>
>I'm halfway into the season and Ortega already has made 89 goals!
>
>This is fantastic, but frankly a bit boring too.

isnt it?


>
>Is there anyone else winning in these unbelievable heights?
>

no, i used it for a couple of games, but it takes all the fun out of
the game. if you had come up with it yourself it would be more
pleasing, cos it wouldve been something you did, but it just takes all
the fun away......did i say that already? ;)


I'm a negative Creep and I'm Stoned


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Matthias son of Deuteronomy of Gath

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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I came up with a brilliant 4-4-2 variant, which requires great markers at
the back, so, as Fiorentina, I bought Jurgen Kohler and played him at the
back alongside Pedro Sarabia. I then sold Gabriel Batistuta, Edmundo and
Anselmo Robbiati for a total of £35million, with which I bought Jaunildo,
German Burgos and Frank De Boer. I then proceeded to finish second in the
Serie A, losing only one game (but drew too many), and conceding only eight
goals. I won the Cup Winners Cup, with Jaunildo scoring the winner against
Mallorca, then set about getting rid of some of the older players, Luis
Oliveira went for £8million, Amor for £2million and Toldo for £6million. I
signed Victor on a bosman free, and managed to get McManaman as the Real
Madrid squad contained too many players. I won the Serie A the next season,
with 83 goals scored and 9 conceded, three after having my keeper sent off
in a 3-3 draw with AC Milan (I was winning 3-0 with twenty minutes to go).
Basically, what I did was have my back four man-to-man marking, as well as
my two central midfielders, playing short passing, with one of the attackers
staying behind the main striker all the way until the final third of the
pitch when he and an attacking midfielder went on either side of the striker
who was pushed up into a more forward position to pick up the rebounds and
to pull away from defenders. My defenders always won the ball, and six of
the nine goals came from set-piece situations, two from long shots and one
an own goal. Not once did an opposition attacker get clear of my defence and
score a goal. I am proud. Football eh? Bloody hell.

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Tim

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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I have my CM3 at home but my internet/email at work so I am not able to
download this tactic.


Could anybody explain what the main points are please?

many thanks
struggling with Stalybridge in the Conference and could do with some
help

tim

Khan wrote:
>
> It’s totally unbelievable!


>
> After I started using it I’m winning all my games with around 8-12 to
> nothing!
>
> One match ended 14-0!!! (Ortega made 11 goals)
>
> Before, I was using a 4-2-3-1 tactic, and I was winning too, but only 2-1
> 2-0 3-2 and so on.
>
> I'm halfway into the season and Ortega already has made 89 goals!
>
> This is fantastic, but frankly a bit boring too.
>

> Is there anyone else winning in these unbelievable heights?
>

Kim Christiansen

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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Tim <joe...@god.com> wrote in message news:374D4C...@heaven.com...

> I have my CM3 at home but my internet/email at work so I am not able to
> download this tactic.
>
>
> Could anybody explain what the main points are please?
>
Well.. its kinda just 3-4-3 where you take the middle attacker and move him
up field abit in the with ball view. and set pressing and hard tackling on.
ohh and short passing.
But my brother has had just as good a season with just the 3-4-3 tactics,
its because almost every team in CM3 plays 4-4-2 with marking. Wich's leaves
the middle striker totally free.

Kc.

Jim Wraith

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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In article <B7233.725$W77....@news.get2net.dk>, Khan
<Khan2*nospam*@softhome.net> writes

>Is there anyone else winning in these unbelievable heights?

Yeah, I played it for a season with falkirk, and marino keith scored
79.

this is how it works.. look at the 'with ball' screen on the tactics....
the middle striker, is always right in the centre, and is always goal-
hanging (that is, he's usually yards in front of his team mates)...
basically, if you played this tactic with cole or lineker at centre
forward, they should score 175+!

Jim Wraith

Tim

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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Many thanks Kim - I'll try it tonight- but doesn't 343 leave you exposed
at the back ?(oooer!)

tim

mojo

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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On Thu, 27 May 1999 14:44:43 +0100, Tim <joe...@god.com> wrote:

>I have my CM3 at home but my internet/email at work so I am not able to
>download this tactic.

Floppy disks anyone ?

PJS

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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Tim wrote in message <374D4C...@heaven.com>...

>I have my CM3 at home but my internet/email at work so I am not able to
>download this tactic.
>
>
>Could anybody explain what the main points are please?
>
>many thanks
>struggling with Stalybridge in the Conference and could do with some
>help
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still left in your team?

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Tim

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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I have all of the players still (2000) ,mainly because it's so hard
trying to get players to go there.

There's an excellent striker called sullivan on £525 per week
who wants to leave - the most I can pay him is 200- even though I
cheated and got Manure to buy a player off me for 250k.

I can't remember the other players (it's at home and I'm at work at the
mo') can you recommend any tips ? players to keep etc.
regards

Critch

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May 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/28/99
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In article <B7233.725$W77....@news.get2net.dk>,

"Khan" <Khan2*nospam*@softhome.net> wrote:
> It’s totally unbelievable!
>
> After I started using it I’m winning all my games with around 8-12 to
> nothing!
>

I missed the Champions Cup thing, cos I was at work, but I notice
Ferguson had three forwards on, and man utd managed to score 2 in 2
minutes. Were they using the 3-4-3Owen too?

Maybe Fergie hangs around here picking up cheat formations for big
games?


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PJS

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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Tim wrote in message <374E5C...@heaven.com>...


>I have all of the players still (2000) ,mainly because it's so hard
>trying to get players to go there.
>
>There's an excellent striker called sullivan on £525 per week
>who wants to leave - the most I can pay him is 200- even though I
>cheated and got Manure to buy a player off me for 250k.
>
>I can't remember the other players (it's at home and I'm at work at the
>mo') can you recommend any tips ? players to keep etc.
>regards

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Right. In real life the best player is probably Brendan Burke. Helpfully the
people at SI have screwed up his age so he's only about 17 at the start
giving you another 10 years of him. Unhelpfully, they also made him a left
sided wing back when he should be AMFR (hopefully he'll still work as a
support man though). Get rid of Lunt; he can't score in a brothel. The
Physio is quite good. Probably your best bet tactically is play with wing
backs, but you really need a defender who can mark.

Ni...@indahood.freeserve.co.uk

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May 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/29/99
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Send this formation to me please


Lee James

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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I made this formation and I am pretty sure it is a bug. I think the defence
just doesn't mark the central striker.

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Khan <Khan2*nospam*@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:B7233.725$W77....@news.get2net.dk...


> It's totally unbelievable!
>
> After I started using it I'm winning all my games with around 8-12 to
> nothing!
>

> One match ended 14-0!!! (Ortega made 11 goals)
>
> Before, I was using a 4-2-3-1 tactic, and I was winning too, but only 2-1
> 2-0 3-2 and so on.
>
> I'm halfway into the season and Ortega already has made 89 goals!
>
> This is fantastic, but frankly a bit boring too.
>

> Is there anyone else winning in these unbelievable heights?
>

Jim Wraith

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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In article <7ird0l$j0n$5...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Lee James <lee@ljs
place.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>I made this formation and I am pretty sure it is a bug. I think the defence
>just doesn't mark the central striker.
>

Yep.. I think that, unless they are playing 5 at the back, computer
teams only have two man-markers in the middle, and two wing-
backs.. If you're playing against a team playing 3-4-3Owen, I would
probably play 5-3-2, and have a sweeper, always playing right at
the back..
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Critch

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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In article <1hJBxDAS...@kildare.demon.co.uk>,

What about offside trap? Since the free forward is pressed forward,
should this not work? Well, at least some of the time?
> Jim Wraith

Jim Wraith

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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In article <7irlkn$tcu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Critch <critch101@my-
deja.com> writes

>
>What about offside trap? Since the free forward is pressed forward,
>should this not work? Well, at least some of the time?
>

Logically it should work, but judging from the position of the free
forward, he would get caught out a lot anyway (looking at the
match stats tends to bear this out..)

I was wondering... When yer team plays 343Owen, wouldn't they
play better with long ball?

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Lee James

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Jun 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/1/99
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> Logically it should work, but judging from the position of the free
> forward, he would get caught out a lot anyway (looking at the
> match stats tends to bear this out..)
>
> I was wondering... When yer team plays 343Owen, wouldn't they
> play better with long ball?
>
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
> --
> Jim Wraith

I thought it would work as well but it didn't work as well. I have many
players that are good at passing so short passes work well.

Jim Wraith

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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In article <7j2u5r$v18$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Lee James
<l...@ljsplace.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>
>I thought it would work as well but it didn't work as well. I have many
>players that are good at passing so short passes work well.

What about direct?

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Lee James

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Didn't work as well either. Generally I think that if most of your team is
good at passing Short passes are the best option.
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