changing Viconia's alignment (BG2 & ToB)
sverre
I've read somewhere on the net that you can make Viconia change her
alignment to neutral. There was written that you shouldnt sleep with her
for the second time, saying that the time isn't right, then be nice to
her and after the fight with Yaga Shura (ToB) you should tell her
something like all the killing is wrong etc.
When she wanted to sleep with me for the second time, I told her that
the time was not right, but in the next dialog, I had only 2
choices: - I could sleep with her again (which I did), or I could dump
her (which sounded like it would end our romance ;)
So, has anyone ever gotten Viconia to change her alignment ?
Will high reputation affect our romance ? She shouldn't be able to leave
my party now - she swore to serve me (upon exiting Underdark).
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Kish
>
> hi all,
Spoiler space.
> I've read somewhere on the net that you can make Viconia change her
> alignment to neutral. There was written that you shouldnt sleep with her
> for the second time, saying that the time isn't right, then be nice to
> her and after the fight with Yaga Shura (ToB) you should tell her
> something like all the killing is wrong etc.
> When she wanted to sleep with me for the second time, I told her that
> the time was not right, but in the next dialog, I had only 2
> choices: - I could sleep with her again (which I did), or I could dump
> her (which sounded like it would end our romance ;)
> So, has anyone ever gotten Viconia to change her alignment ?
Yes. Choose your dialogue choices carefully.
> Will high reputation affect our romance ?
No.
> She shouldn't be able to leave
> my party now - she swore to serve me (upon exiting Underdark).
Lovely attitude. That ought to kill the romance right there. But, in
point of fact, no NPC will leave in ToB whatever happens to your
Reputation.
Ojerasmus
Another problem I had with the Vic romance was during the underdark after I had
the real eggs and messed up the ceremony I decided to fight my way out of the
city. I think one of the drow I killed was some sort of handmaiden of lolth
(the one who gives the slimes quest probably) and after she was killed but
while I was still fighting other drow Vic starts a conversation about being
scared while the tentacles were scarring her brain (or something similar) and I
had to reply something about protecting her if Lolth sent anyone else after
her.
I'd already slept with her at that point and had a speech about being scared
lolth was sending someone for her but nothing ever came of that and I never got
the end of romance XP. Bodhi vamped her so I'd clearly made it to a certain
point in the romance but I'm playing without Shadowkeeper so I don't know
where.
It's a while back now as I've just wrapped up Sendai but it looks like I messed
it up somehow.
Owen Erasmus
sverre
>> So, has anyone ever gotten Viconia to change her alignment ?
>
> Yes. Choose your dialogue choices carefully.
Just one question - will I be able to change her alignment now that I've
slept with her for the second time ? She didnt complain in the
morning ;)
>> She shouldn't be able to leave
>> my party now - she swore to serve me (upon exiting Underdark).
>
> Lovely attitude. That ought to kill the romance right there. But, in
Im a lawful good Undeadhunter - the whole romance with a neutral evil
character is kinda weird ;)
> point of fact, no NPC will leave in ToB whatever happens to your
> Reputation.
I didn't install ToB yet - I just got out of Underdark and now Im going
to do all the major quests before facing Bodhi.
I mentioned ToB in the Subject line just to imply that I know (or at
leats Ive heard) that I wont be able to change her alignment untill ToB.
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Kish
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 03:59:45 GMT, Kish wrote:
> >> So, has anyone ever gotten Viconia to change her alignment ?
> >
> > Yes. Choose your dialogue choices carefully.
>
> Just one question - will I be able to change her alignment now that I've
> slept with her for the second time ? She didnt complain in the
> morning ;)
>
> I didn't install ToB yet - I just got out of Underdark and now Im going
> to do all the major quests before facing Bodhi.
> I mentioned ToB in the Subject line just to imply that I know (or at
> leats Ive heard) that I wont be able to change her alignment untill ToB.
Viconia/ToB is a separate romance from Viconia/SoA--a sequel, as it
were. The only way the SoA romance affects the ToB romance is to
determine whether it exists. As long as you /have/ a romance in ToB,
everything that determines whether Viconia changes will take place
there.
However, unless your Charisma is high enough to hold her (since you're a
paladin, it almost certainly is), she may still leave at Reputation 19
or 20.
sverre
> Looks like I've missed the chance to change her as well,
>
> Another problem I had with the Vic romance was during the underdark after I had
> the real eggs and messed up the ceremony I decided to fight my way out of the
> city. I think one of the drow I killed was some sort of handmaiden of lolth
> (the one who gives the slimes quest probably) and after she was killed but
> while I was still fighting other drow Vic starts a conversation about being
> scared while the tentacles were scarring her brain (or something similar) and I
> had to reply something about protecting her if Lolth sent anyone else after
> her.
>
> I'd already slept with her at that point and had a speech about being scared
> lolth was sending someone for her but nothing ever came of that and I never got
> the end of romance XP. Bodhi vamped her so I'd clearly made it to a certain
> point in the romance but I'm playing without Shadowkeeper so I don't know
> where.
I slept with her 2 times and we just "held hands" the third time.
After some handmaiden of Lolth teleported in and attacked us along with
her daemon, the only way I could keep Viconia in my party was to "split
up" with her (end our romance).
Since I have a lot more quests to do in BG2, I was wondering If I can
start a new romance with Jaheira now, though she has been quiet lately ;)
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Jonathan Ellis
"sverre" <sverreKILL...@gmx.net> wrote in message > > her.
> After some handmaiden of Lolth teleported in and attacked us along
with
> her daemon, the only way I could keep Viconia in my party was to
"split
> up" with her (end our romance).
This is the last of the Viconia romance dialogues in BG2 SoA areas:
it ALWAYS works this way. Don't worry, though - as long as she stayed in
your party, she'll be still interested in you (although she's trying to
convince herself that she shouldn't be), and the romance will start
again in ToB.
> Since I have a lot more quests to do in BG2, I was wondering If I can
> start a new romance with Jaheira now, though she has been quiet lately
;)
Not possible. If at any time Jaheira or Aerie has been in your
party after you've been sleeping with Viconia, then neither will be
interested in you - ever again. Besides, although it may appear that
way, the Viccy romance *isn't over yet*.
Jonathan.
sverre
>
> This is the last of the Viconia romance dialogues in BG2 SoA areas:
> it ALWAYS works this way. Don't worry, though - as long as she stayed in
> your party, she'll be still interested in you (although she's trying to
> convince herself that she shouldn't be), and the romance will start
> again in ToB.
I installed ToB before going to Suldanessellar (hit the XP cap). I just
killed the Bhalspawn in Saradush and Im about to leave the city and go
for Watcher's Keep, and Im wondering when should the Viconia romance
start again.
I had a romance talk with Jaheira right after we entered the tavern
in Saradush, but Viconia remains silent - except for scaring Jan with
poisoned spiders crawling over his shoulders ;)
>> Since I have a lot more quests to do in BG2, I was wondering If I can
>> start a new romance with Jaheira now, though she has been quiet lately
> ;)
>
> Not possible. If at any time Jaheira or Aerie has been in your
> party after you've been sleeping with Viconia, then neither will be
> interested in you - ever again. Besides, although it may appear that
It really *did* sound like a romance talk with Jaheira, and I didnt want
to dump her because I wasnt sure what happened to the Viconia romance.
Wasnt the Viconia romance supposed to continue right after I installed
ToB ?
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Kish
>
> It really *did* sound like a romance talk with Jaheira, and I didnt want
> to dump her because I wasnt sure what happened to the Viconia romance.
> Wasnt the Viconia romance supposed to continue right after I installed
> ToB ?
Oops.
There's a known bug where the game checks to see if you were
well-progressed in Jaheira's quest instead of whether you were committed
in her romance. I'd suggest you reload your SoA final save, install the
Baldurdash fix for that problem ( http://members.rogers.com/mrkevvy/ )
and go through the final battle again.
sverre
isn't there any other way I could start the Viconia romance in ToB ?
like editing some variables etc...
I'm really in no mood to go through Suldanessellar, The 9 hells,
Saradush and the Watcher's Keep again...
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You could always load up ShadowKeeper
and set the ViconiaRomance variable to
2...
sverre
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> start the Viconia romance in ToB ?
>| like editing some variables etc...
>| I'm really in no mood to go through
> Suldanessellar, The 9 hells,
>| Saradush and the Watcher's Keep
> again...
>
> You could always load up ShadowKeeper
> and set the ViconiaRomance variable to
> 2...
just to make sure, did you mean VICONIAROMANCE (which is 3573375 now) or
did you mean VICONIAROMANCEACTIVE (which is 3) ?
thanx
btw, why do you wrap your lines to 40 characters ? it makes the quotes a
lot harder to read
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sverre
3 and VICONIAROMANCEACTIVE from 3 to 2. As soon as I got out of a
dungeon, Viconia started talking and we got together again ;)
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