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Badbark

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Sep 19, 2001, 8:33:53 AM9/19/01
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Children of Bhaal game!
The only NPC's allowed are Imoen and Sarevok.
I started this the other night and I'm having great fun with it. My PC
is a kensai dualled to a mage at level 13 and I have just managed to
rescue Imoen and get my kensai abilites back. It has been tough at
times but never to fustrating. The staff of magi and cloak of
non-detection have been a God send, although my level 9 mage had some
fun getting the staff. (Your mage can go from level 1 to 9 memerising
scrolls alone)
I'm playing Lawful/Neutral so my familar ferret has been pick
pocketing loads as well.

Has anyone else tried a similar approach?

Badbark.

Westley Weimer

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Sep 19, 2001, 1:19:19 PM9/19/01
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Badbark <bad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Children of Bhaal game!
> The only NPC's allowed are Imoen and Sarevok.

Sounds like fun.

> I'm playing Lawful/Neutral so my familar ferret has been pick
> pocketing loads as well.

Go, Elmonster, go! :-)

> Has anyone else tried a similar approach?

I've tried games with some small subset of people (2 or 3 max, say). In my
experience they are an order of magnitude easier than a solo game if you
aren't reloading, so your "too scared to solo" suggestion is on target. If
Immy or Sarey die you can easily bring 'em back. Since you'll have the PC
as the main fighter for most of the game, however, you still have to worry
about the protagonist losing it. :-)

Have fun!

- Wes

DC-ke

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Sep 19, 2001, 3:04:43 PM9/19/01
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Yeah, I just finished ToB with only me (dual ranger(9) / cleric), Imoen and
Sarevok.

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Rabain

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Sep 19, 2001, 3:09:49 PM9/19/01
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You think i could solo a Bard thru BG2? I'm playing thru BG1 with one at
the minute. Haven't had a chance to look at the Kits for Bards just yet,
anyone got any recomendations?

Rabain

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Bob Tokyo

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Sep 19, 2001, 6:35:33 PM9/19/01
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> You think i could solo a Bard thru BG2? I'm playing thru BG1 with one at
> the minute. Haven't had a chance to look at the Kits for Bards just yet,
> anyone got any recomendations?
>
Yes. Go for the Blade kit, Scimitars and Katanas. Get Celestial Fury as
soon as you can, then do Trademeet to get Belm. You'll have four attacks
per round when using offensive spin, three of them with CF. When you get to
level 24, pick Use Any Item as your special ability and purchase the Scarlet
Ninja-to to replace Belm. Otherwise play him as a Fighter/Mage, use Pick
Pockets to steal every store blind, and remember that cheap and plentiful
wands and potions are your best friends.


Darryl Riser

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Sep 19, 2001, 6:56:34 PM9/19/01
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" DC-ke" <pai...@programmer.net> wrote in
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> Yeah, I just finished ToB with only me (dual ranger(9) / cleric), Imoen
> and Sarevok.

I prefer two characters to soloing. Currently, I'm trying a multi
fighter/thief and playing him and Jaheira though from BG1 to TOB. I figure
the complete lack of mage spells should make for an interesting game.

Darryl
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Gary Lee

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Sep 24, 2001, 9:01:23 AM9/24/01
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Thanks for the great idea. I have had one major objection to soloing and you
answered it. In the mythology of BG, Immy and "I" have been friends since
childhood. She was so close she wanted to join my treck even without
Gorion's blessing. How in God's name could I ignore here and not hake her a
part of my party--even if I had to solo for a while in order to get her
back.

My other problem has been that BG2 seems to have a lot more traps and if I
solo without thief skills, I can't see any way of disarming the trap without
stepping on it and taking the hit points. Anyone who can give me a clue as
to how to solve this one would be greatly appreciated.

What I plan to do is start as a thief (everyone in Candlekeep said Immy and
I were thick as thieves) and dual to a kensai after I get to BG2. at around
thief level 8 or 9.


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Zeyk

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Sep 24, 2001, 9:40:37 PM9/24/01
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Yes, I am currently playing a "Children of Bhaal" game. My PC Assassin
completed most of the Act 2 quests solo and rescued Imoen. We put a stake
through Bodhi's heart and are on our way to Suldanesselar. In ToB I will let
Sarevok join for a killer trio.

BTW: Playing an assassin has been the most fun I've had with this game so
far. Especially once I started getting my special abilities.


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heather-jo cusack

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Sep 25, 2001, 2:04:23 AM9/25/01
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> My other problem has been that BG2 seems to have a lot more traps and if I
> solo without thief skills, I can't see any way of disarming the trap
without
> stepping on it and taking the hit points. Anyone who can give me a clue as
> to how to solve this one would be greatly appreciated.

(uses a bit of prior knowledge) In my Solo R/C Game, I'd cast Shield of the
Archons (after I leveled that high, of course), Death ward, Protection from
Electricity and then just walk on it. (Might pay to use DUHM, and/or Potion
of Fortitude if you've low HP.) Maybe I'm lucky, but I never died once.
(From traps, anyway...)
If you're a Mage, (minor) Spell Deflection and Reflection (IIRC) will
protect you from spells aimed at you (not cloud effects, of course). (You
can 'recharge' your spells without resting (up to lvl4, I think) using one
of these spells and getting hit by traps on purpose - but it's safer to
rest.)
And the neutral familiars all have thief skills. (I think the highest lvl
thief/most useful is the ferret - True Neutral at 75% find traps can't
remember pick locks). Not 100% sure. Of course, you have to be the right
class..
And of course, if all else fails - summons.

Hope this helps,
Liam

Sarah Jaernecke

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Sep 25, 2001, 12:19:57 PM9/25/01
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Gary Lee scrawled the following into the Great Almanac of
alt.games.baldurs-gate:

> In the mythology of BG, Immy and "I" have been friends since
> childhood. She was so close she wanted to join my treck even
> without Gorion's blessing. How in God's name could I ignore here and
> not hake her a part of my party--even if I had to solo for a while
> in order to get her back.

That's how I feel, too. I'd also include Jaheira (old, loyal friend)
and Sarevok (I feel responsible for him after raising him) in my list
of "must haves". ;)

> My other problem has been that BG2 seems to have a lot more traps
> and if I solo without thief skills, I can't see any way of
> disarming the trap without stepping on it and taking the hit
> points. Anyone who can give me a clue as to how to solve this one
>would be greatly appreciated.

You could spells and/or summons to soak up the damage ... but it's
rather crude compared to a thief's skills (and yields no experience,
either).

> What I plan to do is start as a thief (everyone in Candlekeep said Immy and
> I were thick as thieves) and dual to a kensai after I get to BG2. at around
> thief level 8 or 9.

Without using Shadowkeeper or similar editors, you cannot dual *into*
a kit, only *out of* it. Meaning: kensai -> thief is possible while
thief -> kensai is not.

It's a bit of a drag, since I don't play single-class spellcasters (a
Bhaalspawn should be able to hold her own in combat IMO), but would
like to play (dualled) wild mage.


--
Sarah Jaernecke
Nightfire --==(UDIC)==--
(nightfi...@web.de)

Kookie Jar's quote of the day:
"A Puritan is someone who is deathly afraid that someone somewhere is
having fun."

Darryl Riser

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Sep 25, 2001, 4:58:19 PM9/25/01
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Sarah Jaernecke <nightfi...@web.de> wrote in
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> It's a bit of a drag, since I don't play single-class spellcasters (a
> Bhaalspawn should be able to hold her own in combat IMO), but would
> like to play (dualled) wild mage.

I have no problem at all using Shadowkeeper to make my fighter/thief a
fighter/wild mage. I like the idea that my professional warrior/amateur
mage fumbles spells.

Surrounded by trolls, I cast a fireball, only to find myself surrounded by
trolls and hiccupping violently. "Bloody hic hell," I mutter, reaching for
my longsword ...

Sarah Jaernecke

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Sep 27, 2001, 12:30:08 PM9/27/01
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Darryl Riser scrawled the following into the Great Almanac of
alt.games.baldurs-gate:

> Sarah Jaernecke <nightfi...@web.de> wrote in
> news:eea1rt4ptfir7scbq...@4ax.com:

>> It's a bit of a drag, since I don't play single-class spellcasters
>> (a Bhaalspawn should be able to hold her own in combat IMO), but
>> would like to play (dualled) wild mage.
>
> I have no problem at all using Shadowkeeper to make my
> fighter/thief a fighter/wild mage. I like the idea that my
> professional warrior/amateur mage fumbles spells.

I think if I play a solo game game, I'd have few objections to this,
myself. Hmm. Solo with a thief/wild mage multi or swashbuckler/mage
dual?

> Surrounded by trolls, I cast a fireball, only to find myself surrounded by
> trolls and hiccupping violently. "Bloody hic hell," I mutter, reaching for
> my longsword ...

<snicker>

BTW, when I whipped up a quick test character, I noticed that while
using Shadowkeeper to change the newly-dualled mage to a wild mage did
give her the three wild magic spells, she does not gain the extra
spell per level that a specialist mage is supposed to get. Any idea
how to fix that, or would I have to fiddle with the available slots
manually after each level-up?


--
Sarah Jaernecke
Nightfire --==(UDIC)==--
(nightfi...@web.de)

Kookie Jar's quote of the day:

"Hardware is that part of the computer system we can kick, whereas software
is the part we can only curse at".

Darryl Riser

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Sep 27, 2001, 2:42:31 PM9/27/01
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Sarah Jaernecke <nightfi...@web.de> wrote in
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> BTW, when I whipped up a quick test character, I noticed that while
> using Shadowkeeper to change the newly-dualled mage to a wild mage did
> give her the three wild magic spells, she does not gain the extra
> spell per level that a specialist mage is supposed to get. Any idea
> how to fix that, or would I have to fiddle with the available slots
> manually after each level-up?

I just treated it as part of the penalty for a minor bit of cheating. Last
night I restarted my solo game (again) with a pure assassin. Those poisoned
arrows work wonders against anything in the first dungeon and the circus.
But I know she'll be slaughtered when she hits that first big fight in the
slaver ship compound. That's ususally where my solo/no reloads games break
down.

Gebhard Blucher

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Sep 27, 2001, 6:56:05 PM9/27/01
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> I just treated it as part of the penalty for a minor bit of
cheating. Last
> night I restarted my solo game (again) with a pure assassin. Those
poisoned

Argh! How can you solo an Assassin! :-) The 15% in thieving points
per level are murderous...

> arrows work wonders against anything in the first dungeon and the
circus.
> But I know she'll be slaughtered when she hits that first big fight
in the
> slaver ship compound. That's ususally where my solo/no reloads games
break
> down.
>

Easiest way to tackle the slaver's house boat is to take the front
door and not the sewer entrance -- by the time you reach Cap. Haeglin
he should be all alone (or have just one lackey).

GB


Darryl Riser

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Sep 27, 2001, 10:16:49 PM9/27/01
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"Gebhard Blucher" <g_bl...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:tr7abdmuannm30
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> Argh! How can you solo an Assassin! :-) The 15% in thieving points
> per level are murderous...

I just found out I couldn't. She got killed in the circus tent. Three times.
Normally, I've been starting a new character after the first death but she
went down so fast, I wanted to see if I could beat them.

I'm shooting for a no-reload by going through the types one at a time until
I find one that can survive. Thief skills seem to be a necessity but then I
get my but kicked when I have to fight.

I've got a bad feeling I'll eventually learn an Undead Hunter is the only
character I can solo with. That seems to be the only character type I have
any natural empathy for. With anything else I feel like I'm playing a
character, but with the Undead Hunter, I feel like I'm being myself. :> If I
knew a way to beat traps with him, I'd jump straight to him.



> Easiest way to tackle the slaver's house boat is to take the front
> door and not the sewer entrance -- by the time you reach Cap. Haeglin
> he should be all alone (or have just one lackey).

I'll have to try that. I was hoping to sneak through the slaver compound
but it hasn't worked yet. So far, my no-reload solo efforts have resulted in
playing the game to that point over and over again.

Zeyk

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Sep 30, 2001, 10:08:16 AM9/30/01
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It's doable, really. Just make sure your stealth and find traps are good
enough. The other thieving skills are raisable by potions of Master
Thievery. I found the assassin to be a very powerful solo class. The poison
weapon ability is what got me out of Irenicus' dungeon, and once you get the
Cloak of Non-Detection you become backstab master. You'll be levelling up so
fast, that the 15 thieving points per level won't be a problem for long. I
had 100 in most skills by the time I arrived in Brynlaw.

Zeyk


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