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BG2 ho w to get a Familiar??? Whats a protagonist???

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Stephen

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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How can I summon my Familiar, every time I try the game tells me this can
only be cast by the protagonist.

Whats that?

I thought it ment an opponent, if so whats the point in this spell?

All I want is my cute lil' faire dragon and I cant find the little shit!

gezza

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"Stephen" <ste...@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
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: How can I summon my Familiar, every time I try the game tells me this can
:
:

The Protagonist is your main character, i.e.. the character your create at
the start of the game.

gezza.

Christopher Ibbetson

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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the protagonist is the lead character
so you can get the farmiliar if your main characters a mage etc
not sure if you can get it by say moving imoen to the top ie to lead your
party

Ibbster

Georgethe4

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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Previously,
>: How can I summon my Familiar, every time I try the game tells me this

>: can only be cast by the protagonist.
>: Whats that?

> The Protagonist is your main character,

The word protagonist has the connotation of describing the main character
without indicating whether he is good or evil. This explains why they chose to
use this word rather than "hero", since you could be running an evil character.
Cool, cool
George IV

Twin Ion Engine

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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The protoganist is the "star" of the story. In BG2, its your character.

In article <39e82e15$1...@clear.net.nz>, "Stephen" <ste...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>How can I summon my Familiar, every time I try the game tells me this can
>only be cast by the protagonist.
>
> Whats that?
>

Iron Horse

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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"Stephen" <ste...@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
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> How can I summon my Familiar, every time I try the game tells me this can
> only be cast by the protagonist.
>
> Whats that?


Since is the second time I've seen this come up, Stephen, I have to ask: is
English your native tongue, are you still in school and if so what grade?
I'm curious because the word "protagonist" is something which should come up
about midway through one's (English) education but maybe you just haven't
gotten to it yet 'cause yer still a little tadger.


> I thought it ment an opponent, if so whats the point in this spell?


The opponent would be the "antagonist". But you're in the ballpark!


Robbie Swale

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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> I'm curious because the word "protagonist" is something which should come
up
> about midway through one's (English) education but maybe you just haven't
> gotten to it yet 'cause yer still a little tadger.


A word "should have come up"... Do you have vocabulary lessons or something
in America? Or do you study a certain text which has it in? Otherwise, I
don't see how you can say it "should" have come up.

Robbie

Tal'n Lazarus

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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Robbie Swale <robbie...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Uh, actually, we do have vocabulary lessons. Also, whenever they start
giving you books to read and such, they also teach you what
protagonists/antagonists are. That's also when they teach things like
first-person and third-person narrations.
Protagonist is a word that is basically required to be taught in English
class, in Junior High at the least.

--
Zot.
= Tal'n The Lazarus
"It's all right, it's just a horse in the bathroom."
- Professor Urban Chronotis, the Regius Professor of Chronology
"Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est"
- Francis Bacon
"I cannot be caged. I cannot be controlled. Understand this as you die, ever
pathetic, ever fools!"
-Irenicus

Wesley Martin

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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> How can I summon my Familiar, every time I try the game tells me this can
> only be cast by the protagonist.

a protagnist is...... ah wait et me fiinsih readin ur post 1st

> Whats that?


>
> I thought it ment an opponent, if so whats the point in this spell?

Yeah

Greater Protaginist of th Dao Djiin

> All I want is my cute lil' faire dragon and I cant find the little shit!
>
>

ok ok

as u have definetly NEVER written a book [hehe] or learnt the word in school
[still in school then?] a PROTAGNIST is the main character in a story

so if ur main aint a mage ur screwed

Robbie Swale

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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Marcel <a293...@smail.uni-koeln.de> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:52:09 -0700, "Tal'n Lazarus"
<taln...@nospamhotmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> >Robbie Swale <robbie...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >news:EDmG5.5382$oD.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >>
> >> > I'm curious because the word "protagonist" is something which should
> >come
> >> up
> >> > about midway through one's (English) education but maybe you just
> >haven't
> >> > gotten to it yet 'cause yer still a little tadger.
> >>
> >>
> >> A word "should have come up"... Do you have vocabulary lessons or
> >something
> >> in America? Or do you study a certain text which has it in? Otherwise,
I
> >> don't see how you can say it "should" have come up.
> >>
> >
> >Uh, actually, we do have vocabulary lessons. Also, whenever they start
> >giving you books to read and such, they also teach you what
> >protagonists/antagonists are. That's also when they teach things like
> >first-person and third-person narrations.
> >Protagonist is a word that is basically required to be taught in English
> >class, in Junior High at the least.
>
> Since this word is of old greek origin it should be known in many
languages. And
> a vital part of every literature lesson as well.

Vital I don't think - People could just as easily say 'hero' or 'main
character'...

> Even if this word is unknown it shouldn´t be to hard to find in a
dictionary.
>
But with all this AD&D lingo around, it might just as well be another game
term... to those of us who are coooooompletely uneducated, as we must be to
now know the word 'protagonist'.

Rob

Phil

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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Tal'n Lazarus <taln...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Robbie Swale <robbie...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:EDmG5.5382$oD.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >
> > > I'm curious because the word "protagonist" is something which
should
> come
> > up
> > > about midway through one's (English) education but maybe you
just
> haven't
> > > gotten to it yet 'cause yer still a little tadger.
> >
> > A word "should have come up"... Do you have vocabulary lessons or
> something
> > in America? Or do you study a certain text which has it in?
Otherwise, I
> > don't see how you can say it "should" have come up.
> >
> Uh, actually, we do have vocabulary lessons. Also, whenever they
start
> giving you books to read and such, they also teach you what
> protagonists/antagonists are. That's also when they teach things
like
> first-person and third-person narrations.
> Protagonist is a word that is basically required to be taught in
English
> class, in Junior High at the least.
>
> --
> Zot.
> = Tal'n The Lazarus

Weird, I went through to A level English Lit and I never remember the
idea of a protagonist being mentioned. Of course, the way I see a
protagonist is as a central character, with all others filling pretty
much peripheral roles in comparison, and the books we were reading
never really concentrated on one character to that extent. That said,
I did know what the word meant in life before BG (when was that? A
looong time ago). However, moving on to antagonists, we never really
looked at them specifically (in good British tradition, we called them
the baddies ;-)), but I would think that the two words, with their
links to antagonise/protagonise (or maybe not), may well at least ring
a few bells. But there's no accounting for the words we do/don't
learn, and it's no slight on any system if a certain word isn't
stressed to the nth degree in classes.

--
Phil
(Remove 'your.inhibitions' to reply)
Read the alt.games.baldurs-gate Usage Guidelines:
www.demonspawn.net/bg/usage.htm

Jonathan Epp

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Oct 16, 2000, 10:53:27 PM10/16/00
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 11:54:49 +0100, "Christopher Ibbetson"
<Ibb...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>the protagonist is the lead character
>so you can get the farmiliar if your main characters a mage etc
>not sure if you can get it by say moving imoen to the top ie to lead your
>party
>
>Ibbster
>

No, the protagonist is the same character no matter who is leading the
party.

Robbie Swale

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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> Point taken, if you really start to think of it as a AD&D term you´re
lost.

I don't, but on first sight, having not heard (or remembered hearing) I just
presumed...

> Maybe I´m just too used to look into a dictionary while reading something
that´s
> not in my native languages (or tongue?). :-)

I think that's possibly quite true.

> but I still believe we all learned these terms nevertheless back in
school, and
> muuch of them are gone for good, too. ;-)

I didn't... but maybe that's because my English teacher couldn't spell, let
alone teach...

Robbie

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