Adjantis or Minsc?
IFM
Minsc as he has better stats though less HP (Minsc 57,Adjantis 45)
The trouble is when i went to test him out against wyverns in cloakwood he
had the s**t kicked out of him.Yet with Minsc he hardly
gets touched.Both i put at the front with full plate +1 and the spiders bane
amongst other bric a brac.Is this the wrong way to use him or
is he suseptible to poison and basically getting hit.
I eagerly await any help.
Ian the mac
Henry
had different Hit Points, could they have been at different levels? I fso,
this is your problem, as Minsc will have superior THACO etc. Remember also
that Aj. has many useful abilities. Lay on hands is another well-needed heal
(that improves as you go up levels) and I have found detect evil vital for
both exploring maps and also for judging characters intents. Hope this
helps.
Ewan Townhead
Ajantis does have some very useful special abilities but when i had him i
was not very impressed by his fighting abilities. He sucks with a bow and
his THACO is pretty piss poor. I'd go with Minsc everytime (although I have
both of them)...
IFM
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As for detect evil i have never used it !-I don't even know what it does
exactly.I have Branwen with 6 lay on hands and my own character
Fighter/Mage has 3 so i don't really need any more for now.
Ian the mac
Henry
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Minsc has one less quickslot avaolable (Boo the Hamster) and detect evil
justs tells you who's evil and who's not. Why not try both? Dump another and
give them a side-by-side trial!
Adam Benedict Canning
Detect evil also detects the magic resistant creatures. Paladins also
have Prot from evil and lay on hands
aDAM
Elessar
> As for detect evil i have never used it !-I don't even know what it does
> exactly.
This was my most used spell, with the only possible exceptions being
magic missile or cure light. Did it everytime I went into an area to get
idea of what was around, or before talking about quests to see if I was
going to agree or not (also guess at risk of being ripped off)
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Rich C. Velay
Henry wrote:
> Personally, I found Ajantis to be a superior character. If Minsc and Ajantis
> had different Hit Points, could they have been at different levels? I fso,
> this is your problem, as Minsc will have superior THACO etc. Remember also
> that Aj. has many useful abilities. Lay on hands is another well-needed heal
> (that improves as you go up levels) and I have found detect evil vital for
> both exploring maps and also for judging characters intents. Hope this
> helps.
RCV: Overall, Ajantis should have MORE HP than Minsc, since Ajantis' Con
is 16, while Minsc's is only 15. Minsc has little to recommend him, besides
great strength and a funny personality. Ajantis is more useful, over all,
IMO. Rich
Rich C. Velay
Ewan Townhead wrote:
> Ajantis does have some very useful special abilities but when i had him i
> was not very impressed by his fighting abilities. He sucks with a bow and
> his THACO is pretty piss poor. I'd go with Minsc everytime (although I have
> both of them)...
RCV: Odd, since Ajantis at least begins proficient with the bow, while
Minsc does not! Neither has a Dex bonus to THAC0, so Ajantis should be better
than Minsc, all else being equal.
No doubt, of course, that Minsc is superior in melee, what with a +2 to hit,
versus Ajantis' +1, but it isn't THAT big of a difference, as far as THAC0 goes;
the real difference is in damage done, ie Minsc +5 and Ajantis only +1.
Best to have them both, I think...
:) Rich
Fylla & Sprit
than a ranger. The disadvantage with both Adjantis and Minsc is their
lack of AC bonus from high dexterity. Both of them should be used as
front-line sword fighters - Coran and Kivan are MUCH better with a bow.
If you either Adjantis or Minsc the gauntlets of dexterity the get much
better protection. This makes Minsc a better fighter than Adjantis,
because of his damage bonus.
Spider's Bane is great weapon, but it can't be used together with a
shield - I prefer to have Greywolf's sword a the all-purpose weapon and
only switch to Spider's Bane when fighting ghasts, mages etc.
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IFM
I think that i started off with the wrong type of character
i.e.fighter/mage.
My party consists of
Branwen-Excellent,loads of useful spell espesially cure
Kivan-Best archer in the game
Coran-Wickedly good thief-except pick pocket(crap at the moment)
Dynaheir-low HP but quite a large variety of offensive spells
Minsc-great in a melee (kicks anyones arse)
Myself-just carries wands and a bow
So who should i drop for Adjantis?
Ian the mac
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Rich C. Velay
IFM wrote:
> I would like to take them both but i feel that it would weaken my party.
> I think that i started off with the wrong type of character
> i.e.fighter/mage.
> My party consists of
> Branwen-Excellent,loads of useful spell espesially cure
> Kivan-Best archer in the game
> Coran-Wickedly good thief-except pick pocket(crap at the moment)
> Dynaheir-low HP but quite a large variety of offensive spells
> Minsc-great in a melee (kicks anyones arse)
> Myself-just carries wands and a bow
> So who should i drop for Adjantis?
RCV: Not that you HAVE to or anything, but if it was me, I'd drop Kivan for
Ajantis. **Coran** is the best archer, just compare three prof/slots and a 20
Dex to Kivan's 2 profs/slots and 17 dex... :)
I would get more use out of Laying hands, detecting and protecting from
evil, than I would Kivan's stealth... Besides, for known battles, you can
always cast Strength on Ajantis, and you have a pseudo-tank....
:) Rich
ps: there is nothing wrong with a Ftr/MU, in fact I'd put that one up in the top
5 player classes, myself. Your "mistake", if there is one, is in having
Dynaheir instead of Imoen as an Illusionist. Imoen is the best Good Mage in the
game, and almost as good as Edwin overall [he gets the extra spells, she gets
more choices of spells...] Rich
Fylla & Sprit
"IFM" <I...@mcfarlanei.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> I would like to take them both but i feel that it would weaken my
party.
> I think that i started off with the wrong type of character
> i.e.fighter/mage.
> My party consists of
> Branwen-Excellent,loads of useful spell espesially cure
> Kivan-Best archer in the game
> Coran-Wickedly good thief-except pick pocket(crap at the moment)
> Dynaheir-low HP but quite a large variety of offensive spells
> Minsc-great in a melee (kicks anyones arse)
> Myself-just carries wands and a bow
> So who should i drop for Adjantis?
Keep your party, forget about Adjantis.
I have the same experience with starting character - a fighter/mage
sounds good, but is actually not that useful. I am running a party with
the same characters as you - but with Imoen instead of Branwen
(dual-classed her, when she reached 100% trap detection). My PC is a
dwarven fighter/cleric. A great character: regeneration after pirates
cove, excellent saving throws, loads of spells because of 19 WIS (soon
to be 20!), high HP, useless with bow and missiles, but the best
front-line tank.
Trickle
> RCV: Overall, Ajantis should have MORE HP than Minsc, since Ajantis' Con
>is 16, while Minsc's is only 15. Minsc has little to recommend him, besides
>great strength and a funny personality. Ajantis is more useful, over all,
>IMO. Rich
IMHO Adjantis' dexterity is crippling unless you give him the bracers
of dexterity (a get out of free jail card if ever there was one). ||RC
Minsc only has 15 but you have the option of raising him 1 better in
BG with the tome to a more respectable 16.
I find Adjantis usefull as a front man with his high charisma.
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Trickle
emos
Spider's Bane, Gauntlets of Weapons Expertise and Composite Bow; Minsc has
the Varscona +2 long sword, Gauntlets of Dexterity and Large Shield +1.
They seem to balance each other out fairly well! BTW, who would you give
the Tome of Strength to? Bump Adjantis to 18 or Minsc to 19? (My PC is a
dual-classed fighter/conjuror with 18/00 STR but I primarily use her for her
archery and magic).
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Rich C. Velay
Trickle wrote:
> "Rich C. Velay" <vel...@sprint.ca> wrote:
>
> > RCV: Overall, Ajantis should have MORE HP than Minsc, since Ajantis' Con
> >is 16, while Minsc's is only 15. Minsc has little to recommend him, besides
> >great strength and a funny personality. Ajantis is more useful, over all,
> >IMO. Rich
>
> IMHO Adjantis' dexterity is crippling unless you give him the bracers
> of dexterity (a get out of free jail card if ever there was one). ||RC
> Minsc only has 15 but you have the option of raising him 1 better in
> BG with the tome to a more respectable 16.
RCV: I don't know about "crippling", his Dex is average, after all! :) I'm
playing through again and doing the Chapter Three "clear the map" thing. He is up
to 5th level now and the ONLY time he has used a melee weapon in the entire game is
versus skeletons. With the Gauntlets of Archery, he has the same THAC0 as Minsc,
so it all averages out. Anyway, a 4 Dex is crippling, not a 13....
:) Rich
Rockz
emosb...@mindspring.com says...
> I have both Ajantis and Minsc in my party. Adjantis is equipped with the
> Spider's Bane, Gauntlets of Weapons Expertise and Composite Bow; Minsc has
> the Varscona +2 long sword, Gauntlets of Dexterity and Large Shield +1.
> They seem to balance each other out fairly well! BTW, who would you give
> the Tome of Strength to? Bump Adjantis to 18 or Minsc to 19? (My PC is a
> dual-classed fighter/conjuror with 18/00 STR but I primarily use her for her
> archery and magic).
Few will object giving the tome to Minsc after checking the bonus table.
ST Hit Dam Wt Bash%
17 +1 +1 170 18
18 +1 +2 200 20 (no 18/xx percentile from tome)
19 +3 +7 500 50
Henry
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>Trickle
Yep, v.useful. For ajantis I used book of charisma (+1=18) Nymph cloak
(+2=20) and helm of glory (+1=21) and I now have a guy perceived as a
demigod in my party!
Peter S
Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha
Ajantis 17 13 16 12 13 17
Minsc 18/93 15 15 8 6 9
Minsc:
The Good:
He's a walking tank with that 18/93 Strength. Give him full plate and a two-handed
sword and watch him go to work...
320lbs carrying capacity, he's a great pack mule too...
Gets -1 to his AC with that 15 Dexterity
Gets a +1 to his HP/Lvl adjustment
Has some of the best sound bytes in the game
The Bad:
Lousy Wisdom; a measly '6'. Minsc gets a -1 penalty versus magic spells. Unless
your own character has an even worse Wisdom rating then Minsc is the most
susceptible of all the NPCs when it comes to saving throws versus 'mind affecting'
magic. There's nothing more irritating than having hostile magic users charm dumb
Minsc into attacking you. Sirines will charm him silly...
Bezerk is the only special ability he receives (and perhaps Charm later on).
Boo the Hamster takes up a precious Quick Item slot.
Ajantis:
The Good:
Excellent Charisma. Unless you have a higher Charisma score then make Ajantis the
leader of your party. Only Safana has as high a Charisma rating as Ajantis but
Imoen or Coran should really be your mainstay thief. Give Ajantis the Cloak of
Algernon with its +3 Charisma modifier and watch that 20 Charisma go to work on
everyone you talk to.
Good Constitution. Gets a +2 to his HP/Lvl adjustment.
Paladin Powers. Detect Evil, Protection from Evil, and Heal. The higher the level
the more of each of these spells Ajantis receives. Every little bit helps...
The Bad:
Average Dexterity.
No unearthly Strength rating.
Cheesy sound bytes. Sometimes I wish he'd keep his mouth shut.
No Boo the Hamster...
If you must take one or the other I'd go with Ajantis. With Algernon's Cloak and
Gauntlets of Dexterity Ajantis' few shortcomings are easily forgotten.
Peter
Shaji Revindran
probably go with Minsc as Adjantis' Charisma becomes irrelevant.
If you are not a Paladin, then it becomes a bit more even. I would go for
Minsc, although his int is a big drawback.
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