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dontbugme

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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So I cleared the Dragon's Eye and found myself with enough money
to buy this very mighty expensive weapon.

Is it worth it??


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Rune Christensen

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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dontbugme skrev i meddelelsen
<03cd6014...@usw-ex0101-005.remarq.com>...

>So I cleared the Dragon's Eye and found myself with enough money
>to buy this very mighty expensive weapon.

>Is it worth it??

In my opinion, no. You'll most likely find other, more powerful weapons (+3
or more) in due time.

Rune Christensen

dontbugme

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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Already found the +3 flail in the Severed Hand. Good thing I
decided not to buy it. Now to get some 5th level magic spells...

Mark Blunden

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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"Rune Christensen" <r...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote in message
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Are there any other constitution-boosting items? My axe-wielding dwarf with
19 CON would like to have the regeneration option. On the other hand, he's
currently able to use a magical shield and the +2 AC Defender axe, so he'll
take an AC hit switching to Lonesome Road, so I'm not sure if it's worth it.

--
Mark.
mar...@bigfoot.com

* You must be out of your brilliant minds


Gimble

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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"Mark Blunden" <mar...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:8lnaos$4lbvu$1@ID-
<snip>

>
> Are there any other constitution-boosting items? My axe-wielding dwarf
with
> 19 CON would like to have the regeneration option. On the other hand, he's
> currently able to use a magical shield and the +2 AC Defender axe, so
he'll
> take an AC hit switching to Lonesome Road, so I'm not sure if it's worth
it.
>

Sure it would be! Who says that your dwarf can only have one axe?

I'd pull out the Lonesome Road when walking around, but as soon as a serious
fight started, switch to the improved AC!

Of course, if AC had anything to do with saving throws (traps, etc.) I might
reconsider such an approach. Since it doesn't there's no downside other
than losing one weapon slot, a big wad of cash, and having to remember to
switch back and forth.
<snip>


Michael Rattay

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:02:10 -0700, dontbugme
<michaelke...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:

>So I cleared the Dragon's Eye and found myself with enough money
>to buy this very mighty expensive weapon.
>
>Is it worth it??

Yes, its hard to find as good two hander axes (tho there is one random
I found that is nearly the same, but its random afaik).

But be sure to install the patch, cause without the Lonsome Road can
cause some bugs that destroy game balance.

Yoon


dontbugme

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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Thanks for the info. I decided not to buy it, since I already
have a kickass axe +2 that's 1-handed and gives a +2 bonus to
AC, which helps since my Ranger has this and he doesn't have a
shield. All my other fighters have kickass weapons too, so to me
it wasn't worth it.

Atlus Seven

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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>So I cleared the Dragon's Eye and found myself with enough money
>to buy this very mighty expensive weapon.
>
>Is it worth it??

Only if you have one character dedicated to Axe weilding. It's one of the
better ones in the game. Otherwise, don't bother with it. Too expensive and
you'll find other weapons on par or better pretty soon.

Smooth like Reggie Miller in an airborne freeze-frame......
....Funky like the Kung-Fu that can put you to shame. =D

Tomi Juutilainen

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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> Are there any other constitution-boosting items? My axe-wielding dwarf with
> 19 CON would like to have the regeneration option. On the other hand, he's
> currently able to use a magical shield and the +2 AC Defender axe, so he'll
> take an AC hit switching to Lonesome Road, so I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Yup. I just gave a potion of constitution to my dwarf and boosted up his CON
to 20. I just don't remember where I picked it up, sorry. But it was before
I went to Severed Hand. It's more than likely that I found it Vale of Shadows.
Aargh, what a rotten memory I have...

-- Tomi

Mark Blunden

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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"dontbugme" <michaelke...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the info. I decided not to buy it, since I already
> have a kickass axe +2 that's 1-handed and gives a +2 bonus to
> AC, which helps since my Ranger has this and he doesn't have a
> shield. All my other fighters have kickass weapons too, so to me
> it wasn't worth it.

Your ranger would be better off with a large sword, since he gets an extra
attack per round with 1-handed swords to simulate the ranger double-weapon
ability. I hadn't realised this (I knew about the double weapon ability but
thought it applied to all 1-handed weapons) so I put all my ranger's points
into maces and hammers (plus crossbow) and have only just got him
specialised in large swords now. I'll RTFM next time.

That axe is good, though - my dwarven fighter uses it and a magical shield,
which gives him -5 AC while weilding it.

--
Mark.
mar...@bigfoot.com

* What our ancestors would really be thinking if they were alive today, is:
"Why is it so dark in here?"


Trickle

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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Michael Rattay <ro...@yoonix.de> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:02:10 -0700, dontbugme
><michaelke...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:
>

>>So I cleared the Dragon's Eye and found myself with enough money
>>to buy this very mighty expensive weapon.
>>
>>Is it worth it??
>

>Yes, its hard to find as good two hander axes (tho there is one random
>I found that is nearly the same, but its random afaik).
>
>But be sure to install the patch, cause without the Lonsome Road can
>cause some bugs that destroy game balance.

How would that be? I havent got the patch yet, but I have just gotten
the lonesome road - no bugs seen so far.

As to the patch, the link from BG chronicles for the UK patch doesnt
work for me :( Any idea on where there may be a different mirror
site to use?

Trickle

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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atlus...@aol.comspamaway (Atlus Seven) wrote:

>>So I cleared the Dragon's Eye and found myself with enough money
>>to buy this very mighty expensive weapon.
>>
>>Is it worth it??
>

>Only if you have one character dedicated to Axe weilding. It's one of the
>better ones in the game. Otherwise, don't bother with it. Too expensive and
>you'll find other weapons on par or better pretty soon.

I had to sell almost everything bar the kitchen sink (everything
without a good use anyway :) to buy this and the newly available
spells after dragons eye. Managed to scrape enough up to keep my wand
of armouring, but sold my sleep wand :(


Mark Blunden

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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"Trickle" <tri...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Michael Rattay <ro...@yoonix.de> wrote:
> >But be sure to install the patch, cause without the Lonsome Road can
> >cause some bugs that destroy game balance.
>
> How would that be? I havent got the patch yet, but I have just gotten
> the lonesome road - no bugs seen so far.

From the bug-fix list in the Patch105.txt file:

- Lonesome Road and other CON-raising items will no longer give a healing
side effect when unequipped and then re-equipped.

I would guess that when equipping and unequipping it, you would retain the
bonus hit-points, or something like that.

Incidentally, on a related subject, the patch notes also say that it fixes a
problem with losing bonus spells when unequipping the sanctified warhammer.
I've just got that hammer, and if my cleric unequips then re-equips it, she
has to re-memorise the bonus spells. Is this how it's meant to work, or is
that the problem that was supposed to be fixed? I do have the patch
installed.

--
Mark.
mar...@bigfoot.com

* There's Klingons on the starboard bow - scrape 'em off, Jim!


Colin E

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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Trickle <tri...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> As to the patch, the link from BG chronicles for the UK patch
doesnt
> work for me :( Any idea on where there may be a different
mirror
> site to use?

I loaded the v 1.05 patch from
http://interplay.com/icewind/index.html acouple of days ago
without any problems. Theres a link in there 'What's New' section
dated 07.21.00 that worked effectively.
--
Colin E

Atlus Seven

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Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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>From the bug-fix list in the Patch105.txt file:
>
>- Lonesome Road and other CON-raising items will no longer give a healing
> side effect when unequipped and then re-equipped.
>
>I would guess that when equipping and unequipping it, you would retain the
>bonus hit-points, or something like that.

What it would do is this--say you have a max of 100 hp, but a current HP of 70.
You equiped Lonesome Road, rasing your CON by 1, and giving you say.....+10
HP. Max HP is now 110, current is now 80. You unequip it and your max goes
back down to 100, but your current stays at 80. Do it again and you'll gain
another 10 current HP....again and again until you're completely healed. With
the patch, when you unequip it, both your max and current hp drop back to what
they were before you equiped it.

>Incidentally, on a related subject, the patch notes also say that it fixes a
>problem with losing bonus spells when unequipping the sanctified warhammer.
>I've just got that hammer, and if my cleric unequips then re-equips it, she
>has to re-memorise the bonus spells. Is this how it's meant to work, or is
>that the problem that was supposed to be fixed? I do have the patch
>installed.

Without the patch, when you unequiped the Sanctified Warhammer, it would
un-memorize ALL of your first and second level cleric spells. It was a pain in
the arse to say the least. Glad they fixed this.

Mark Blunden

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Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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"Atlus Seven" <atlus...@aol.comspamaway> wrote in message
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> >From the bug-fix list in the Patch105.txt file:
> >
> >- Lonesome Road and other CON-raising items will no longer give a healing
> > side effect when unequipped and then re-equipped.
> >
> >I would guess that when equipping and unequipping it, you would retain
the
> >bonus hit-points, or something like that.
>
> What it would do is this--say you have a max of 100 hp, but a current HP
> of 70. You equiped Lonesome Road, rasing your CON by 1, and giving you
> say.....+10 HP. Max HP is now 110, current is now 80. You unequip it
> and your max goes back down to 100, but your current stays at 80. Do it
> again and you'll gain another 10 current HP....again and again until
> you're completely healed. With the patch, when you unequip it, both your
> max and current hp drop back to what they were before you equiped it.

I thought it must be something like that. So, if you had 10HPs before
equipping the axe, got another 10 as your CON bonus and were then hit for 12
points of damage, would you then die if you un-equipped it?

--
Mark.
mar...@bigfoot.com

* That power would set me up above the gods!


Trickle

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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atlus...@aol.comspamaway (Atlus Seven) wrote:

>What it would do is this--say you have a max of 100 hp, but a current HP of 70.
> You equiped Lonesome Road, rasing your CON by 1, and giving you say.....+10
>HP. Max HP is now 110, current is now 80. You unequip it and your max goes
>back down to 100, but your current stays at 80. Do it again and you'll gain
>another 10 current HP....again and again until you're completely healed. With
>the patch, when you unequip it, both your max and current hp drop back to what
>they were before you equiped it.

Ah - hence why I saw nothing :)
My dwarf went from 19 to 20, so just saw the regen - which is nice for
a total heal when resting, but probably not as useful in a fight as
the extra +10 or so you get going from 18 - 19.

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