BG2: Thief skills
Daniel
into them you only get a few areas (move silently, pick pockets, detect
traps). But then you look at your character & they've got many more than
that. How do I raise one of the skills listed that you can't put points
directly into? I'd like to have my assassin concentrate on detecting traps
& moving silently, while have a thief concentrate on lock picking &
disarming traps (are the two the same or different skills?).
Also when picking a lock or disarming a trap, how do you determine if you
can or can't? Is it random but based on your skill or is it a skill
comparison where if your skill is lower than what is needed you can try as
much as you want but will always fail?
And why does ShadowKeeper show different skills than the game does?
I've currently got 3 party members with thieving skills. Myself (assassin),
Nalia, and Yoshimo. Below are each of our skills.
Myself (Elf - assassin): base score (according to ShadowKeeper) - game score
Open Locks: 5 - 30
Find Traps: 0 - 50
Pick Pockets: 65 - 120
Move Silently: 85 - 120
Hide in Shadows: 0 - 30
Detect Illusion: 0 - 0
Set Traps: 35 - 10
Yoshimo (Human - bounty hunter): base score (according to ShadowKeeper) -
game score
Open Locks: 60 - 85
Find Traps: 90 - 100
Pick Pockets: 0 - 25
Move Silently: 80 - 100
Hide in Shadows: 40 - 55
Detect Illusion: 0 - 0
Set Traps: 15 - 35
Nalia (Human - Mage/Thief): base score (according to ShadowKeeper) - game
score
Open Locks: 35 - 60
Find Traps: 70 - 80
Pick Pockets: 10 - 35
Move Silently: 0 - 20
Hide in Shadows: 0 - 15
Detect Illusion: 0 - 0
Set Traps: 0 - 5
Kish
> Can someone explain more on theiving skills? I know when you put points
> into them you only get a few areas (move silently, pick pockets, detect
> traps). But then you look at your character & they've got many more than
> that. How do I raise one of the skills listed that you can't put points
> directly into?
Scroll down when choosing where to put thieving skill points.
Jonathan Ellis
"Daniel" <daniel_h_wATyyahooDOTccom> wrote in message
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> Can someone explain more on theiving skills? I know when you put
points
> into them you only get a few areas (move silently, pick pockets,
detect
> traps). But then you look at your character & they've got many more
than
> that. How do I raise one of the skills listed that you can't put
points
> directly into?
When levelling up and choosing where to put your skill points, click
on the up/down arrows to navigate through the list of thief skills.
The ones which aren't on the screen (and thus you can't see them at
first) can be brought onto the screen that way. D'OH! :-)
By the way - Nalia, who has dualled away from thief, can never improve
her thieving skills. The same is true of Imoen.
Jonathan.
Daniel
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>
> "Daniel" <daniel_h_wATyyahooDOTccom> wrote in message
> news:DVCdnTuayJC...@giganews.com...
> > Can someone explain more on theiving skills? I know when you put
> points
> > into them you only get a few areas (move silently, pick pockets,
> detect
> > traps). But then you look at your character & they've got many more
> than
> > that. How do I raise one of the skills listed that you can't put
> points
> > directly into?
>
> When levelling up and choosing where to put your skill points, click
> on the up/down arrows to navigate through the list of thief skills.
> The ones which aren't on the screen (and thus you can't see them at
> first) can be brought onto the screen that way. D'OH! :-)
>
> By the way - Nalia, who has dualled away from thief, can never improve
> her thieving skills. The same is true of Imoen.
>
So you're saying that once they duel away from thief they can't increase
thief again? So it would probably be a good idea to replace Nalia with
Imoen since Imoen appears to have better spells & thief skills?
Jonathan Ellis
"Daniel" <daniel_h_wATyyahooDOTccom> wrote in message
Once you have dualled away from ANY class, you cannot increase your
skills in the class you have dualled away from.
Imoen and Nalia are about the same as mages, actually. What spells
they have depend on what scrolls you give them to scribe to their
spellbooks: they have about the same hit points, as well, and
comparable abilities (Imoen has the superior Dexterity but not by
much.)
Imoen does have three extra levels of thief abilities, and as such is
going to be better at opening locks and disarming traps - the only two
really vital things.
But you don't find her again till halfway through Chapter 4. At this
time, she will be either level 11 or 13 as a mage (and still level 7
as a thief). So, if you don't want her to be too far behind, you
should try to go to the place where she is hidden, when your
characters have no more than about 1 million XP each - which means
saving most of the quests you get in chapter 2 until you come back in
chapter 6. (You can do most of them then anyway.)
Jonathan.
Troll
> Imoen since Imoen appears to have better spells & thief skills?
>
>
get by easily with Imoen as the only thief, but you'd better make sure
to memorize a lot of knock spells or stock up on potions if you want to
use Nalia as your thief. Either will get the job done as far as
spellcasting though.
Jonathan K.
>And why does ShadowKeeper show different skills than the game does?
I suspect that the SK ones are the base scores, and the ones in the
game are modified for race, dex, armour you're wearing, and so forth.
Not positive.
jkk
Scobin
> thief again? So it would probably be a good idea to replace Nalia with
> Imoen since Imoen appears to have better spells & thief skills?
Better spells in Imoen's mage book don't really matter, as long as you can
afford buying scrolls to learn from them. More important, I think, is that
Imoen has a far greater role in the plot than Nalia.
--
Best regards,
Stanislaw "Scobin" Krawczyk
(Poland).