BG2: Imprisonment & freedom problem
R. Dale Shipp
I am at chapter 6. I just ran into a problem with a demi-lich who
imprisoned some of my characters. After they were freed, there were
problems, some of which I could not overcome and so had to start over
from a previous save.
All of the freed characters were blue (cyan?).
Jaheira was very angry with me for letting her go, as if I had
dismissed her. It almost sounded as if the romance was over for good.
Was it?
Minsc, Imoen and Keldorn responded ok and were welcomed back into the
party. Did not sound as if there were any bad effects. Were there?
Jan was another matter entirely. He would not respond to me at all.
Nothing I could do or say (including charm) got any response from him. I
could not get him to rejoin the party. Any ideas?
Has this happened to others? What sorts of problems with some of the
other characters?
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R. Dale Shipp
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Bob Macfie
"R. Dale Shipp" wrote:
>
> I am at chapter 6. I just ran into a problem with a demi-lich who
> imprisoned some of my characters. After they were freed, there
> were problems, some of which I could not overcome and so had to
> start over from a previous save.
>
> All of the freed characters were blue (cyan?).
Yes - Imprisonment effectively kicks them out of your
party.
> Jaheira was very angry with me for letting her go, as if I had
> dismissed her.
The game is flawed this way, I'll admit.
> It almost sounded as if the romance was over for good. Was it?
I can't say. I'm only getting around to starting the
romances in my latest games. ;p
> Minsc, Imoen and Keldorn responded ok and were welcomed back into
> the party. Did not sound as if there were any bad effects. Were
> there?
Shouldn't have been - and that gives me a clue to what may
have happened below:
> Jan was another matter entirely. He would not respond to me at
> all. Nothing I could do or say (including charm) got any response
> from him. I could not get him to rejoin the party. Any ideas?
Since he's the only non-good character in this group aside
from Jaheira, I'd suggest that the problem might be that
your character's reputation is too high. Check that first.
> Has this happened to others?
Yeah, Jaheira ran off like that after a similar incident,
but at least I didn't have a romance running at the time.
And Haer'Dalis refused to rejoin my group once, which I
believe was due to having too high a reputation.
> What sorts of problems with some of the other characters?
Aerie's become very fatalistic in one of my groups. But
that doesn't complicate things any. :)
Bob Macfie
Jonathan Ellis
Bob Macfie wrote in message <3BC3656B...@home.com>...
>
>"R. Dale Shipp" wrote:
>> Jan was another matter entirely. He would not respond to me at
>> all. Nothing I could do or say (including charm) got any response
>> from him. I could not get him to rejoin the party. Any ideas?
>
> Since he's the only non-good character in this group aside
>from Jaheira, I'd suggest that the problem might be that
>your character's reputation is too high. Check that first.
Had he been Silenced in the same fight? Try casting dispel magic on
him.
Jonathan.
Westley Weimer
> Jaheira was very angry with me for letting her go, as if I had
> dismissed her. It almost sounded as if the romance was over for good.
> Was it?
It was. Serious game bug. Restore the game to before when that happened.
Don't let her get turned to stone either.
> Minsc, Imoen and Keldorn responded ok and were welcomed back into the
> party. Did not sound as if there were any bad effects. Were there?
They are fine. Only romances should be hurt.
> Jan was another matter entirely. He would not respond to me at all.
> Nothing I could do or say (including charm) got any response from him. I
> could not get him to rejoin the party. Any ideas?
Mysterious. Was he charmed or silenced or something? If all else fails,
force him to join with Debug Mode's Control-Q.
> Has this happened to others? What sorts of problems with some of the
> other characters?
Yes, it's a known game bug. Don't ever get imprisoned.
- Wes
Michael Schneider
> > Jan was another matter entirely. He would not respond to me at
> > all. Nothing I could do or say (including charm) got any response
> > from him. I could not get him to rejoin the party. Any ideas?
>
> Since he's the only non-good character in this group aside
> from Jaheira, I'd suggest that the problem might be that
> your character's reputation is too high. Check that first.
Neutral characters will not be "angry" at you even if your rep is 20, so
that can't be it.
It sounds like major bugginess to me. My advice is to re-load and save
this fight until you have better saves, or find some way to tie him up
before he casts those spells.
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Bob Macfie
Michael Schneider wrote:
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> In article <3BC3656B...@home.com>, Bob Macfie <bma...@home.com> wrote:
> Neutral characters will not be "angry" at you even if your rep is
> 20, so that can't be it.
They aren't angry - just unwilling to be a party to your
nonsense anymore. ;p You're taking too narrow a view of
this.
Bob Macfie
R. Dale Shipp
> > Neutral characters will not be "angry" at you even if your rep is
> > 20, so that can't be it.
>
> They aren't angry - just unwilling to be a party to your
> nonsense anymore. ;p You're taking too narrow a view of
> this.
Thanks for your and other responses. As to the comments on reputation
being a factor -- I had a rep of 20. My main character is true neutral.
The one suggestion I did not try was to see if Jan had been silenced by
casting a dispel on him.
In the end, I started over and got a turn in which none of the critical
characters got imprisoned -- and used a slayer change to help do him in.
This particular demi-lich was much harder than the other one I came
across earlier -- because of the imprisonment spell.
Kish
> This particular demi-lich was much harder than the other one I came
> across earlier -- because of the imprisonment spell.
The other demi-lich? You're sure the other one wasn't just a lich?
Every demi-lich should have Imprisonments.
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R. Dale Shipp
> "R. Dale Shipp" wrote:
>
> > This particular demi-lich was much harder than the other one I came
> > across earlier -- because of the imprisonment spell.
>
> The other demi-lich? You're sure the other one wasn't just a lich?
> Every demi-lich should have Imprisonments.
>
>
The "other demi-lich" was the one that comes out at the end of a multi-
lich quest. I don't recall that he cast imprisonment --- maybe I did
not give him a chance to<G>.