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Empath

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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I was curious about what is the big difference b/w a cleric fighter and
cleric Ranger, so I created the latter and played using him. To my surprise,
he can use both cleric and druid spells, is this suppose to happen? Or is it
a bug? But then again, it does serve to explain why I would want to make
level promotion harder with a ranger.

Emilio Santos

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Empath escribió en mensaje <7upeg2$3t5$1...@mango.singnet.com.sg>...

>I was curious about what is the big difference b/w a cleric fighter and
>cleric Ranger, so I created the latter and played using him. To my
surprise,
>he can use both cleric and druid spells, is this suppose to happen?
Of course you can use cleric and druid spells beacuse they are the SAME.
If you mean that you can cast the "Enchant animal" spell, its because that
is not a spell, but an ability.

>Or is it a bug? But then again, it does serve to explain why I would want
to make
>level promotion harder with a ranger.

Well, its harder ( in XP points ) to become a Ranger because of some
characterictics:

1.- You cannot be ( as a fighter can be ) from a bad alignment. That
increases the difficulty but...
2.- You must have certain points on CHAR, STRE & CON. Better chances to
hit, and more things
3.- You have the ability of talking with animals ( in the game is
changed by the spell).

But in the paper & pencil game you can too

1.- Hide in the shadows
2.- Find footsteps

And some more things I've forgotten.. ( sorry ) :'-(

I would like to be of some help.
>
>

John Duck

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:09:01 +0200, "Emilio Santos"
<emi...@informasa.es> wrote:

>Empath escribió en mensaje <7upeg2$3t5$1...@mango.singnet.com.sg>...
>>I was curious about what is the big difference b/w a cleric fighter and
>>cleric Ranger, so I created the latter and played using him. To my
>surprise,
>>he can use both cleric and druid spells, is this suppose to happen?
>Of course you can use cleric and druid spells beacuse they are the SAME.

>[...]

They are mainly overlapping, but not exactly the same. For instance
Call lightning and Good Berries are special to druids. Spiritual
hammer and Animate Dead are special to clerics. But it isn't mentioned
in the manual. So a ranger/cleric can cast Good Berries?

cu,
John

Mark Blunden

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Emilio Santos wrote in message <7upnj9$ng3$1...@diana.bcn.ttd.net>...

>But in the paper & pencil game you can too
>
> 1.- Hide in the shadows
> 2.- Find footsteps

I'm pretty sure Rangers can use stealth in BG, so long as they're not
wearing heavy armour.

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Kellinjar

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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Peter Knutsen wrote:
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> They have a Stealth rating, but I don't think they can use the
> Thief's magical gear (boots of stealth, shadow armour).
They can use boots, they can't use shadow armour.


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J.R.

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Oct 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/22/99
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I don't believe they can backstab though, can they?

Kellinjar <mcr...@attcanada.net> wrote in message
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Peter Knutsen

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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Mark Blunden wrote:
>
> Emilio Santos wrote in message <7upnj9$ng3$1...@diana.bcn.ttd.net>...
> >But in the paper & pencil game you can too
> >
> > 1.- Hide in the shadows
> > 2.- Find footsteps
>
> I'm pretty sure Rangers can use stealth in BG, so long as they're not
> wearing heavy armour.

They have a Stealth rating, but I don't think they can use the


Thief's magical gear (boots of stealth, shadow armour).

> --
> Mark.

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Peter Knutsen

Peter Knutsen

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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"J.R." wrote:
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> I don't believe they can backstab though, can they?

Depends on your definition of a backstab. In the AD&D RPG rules
system, thieves gets a damage multiplier when they attack someone
from behind, provided certain conditions are met (I'm not sure
what they are, exactly). A good RPG rules system gives out a to-hit
bonus when you attack someone from behind, regardless of
circumstances,
but I don't know if AD&D does this, or if it's implemented in BG.
If it is, and as a general rule, not a thief-specific rule, then
rangers can "backstab", in a way. But thieves would still get
the damage multiplier.

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Peter Knutsen

John Duck

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:08:18 -0500, "J.R." <i...@home.com> wrote:

>I don't believe they can backstab though, can they?

No. I've heard an invisible bard can, but never tried by myself.

cu,
John

Peter Knutsen

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Oct 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/23/99
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I belive that Bards can backstab under the AD&D 2nd Edition rules.
Whether or not it's implemented in BG...?

> cu,
> John

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Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)

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Oct 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/24/99
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I created a Ranger/Cleric too and found that he gets all of the Cleric/Druid
spells. I tested the character up to 4/4 level and I suspect it is a bug,
but I'm not complaining.

John Duck

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Oct 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/24/99
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On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 18:07:00 +0200, Peter Knutsen <pe...@knutsen.dk>
wrote:

>John Duck wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:08:18 -0500, "J.R." <i...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I don't believe they can backstab though, can they?
>>
>> No. I've heard an invisible bard can, but never tried by myself.
>
>I belive that Bards can backstab under the AD&D 2nd Edition rules.
>Whether or not it's implemented in BG...?

I just checked this with Eldoth. A level 6 bard can triple-backstab
with "The whistling Sword (+2, short sword)" out from invisibility.

cu,
John

John Duck

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:03:10 -0500, "Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)"
<rwo...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I created a Ranger/Cleric too and found that he gets all of the Cleric/Druid
>spells. I tested the character up to 4/4 level and I suspect it is a bug,
>but I'm not complaining.

I can confirm this now. And I'm not complaining too :-).

cu,
John

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