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Sean C

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Apr 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/15/00
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Is the Spider's Bane a useful sword to keep? I noticed it is worth about
6000 gold.

I have two fighters in my party. One has been using the Spider's Bane and
the other has been using the Bastard Sword +1.

I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
this wise?

Also, what is better...a Bastard Sword, Long Sword or Two Handed Sword?

Thanks!

Rich C. Velay

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RCV: Long sword does the least damage and strikes the fastest, of the
swords under discussion, bastard sword does more damage and hits slower,
two handed sword does the most damage and is the slowest.
Long and Bastard swords you can use with one hand, thus you can use a
shield as well; two handed sword needs two hands [oddly enough] and so
you can't use a shield.
Spider's Bane also gives you a permanent "Free action" spell on the
character using it - quite useful vs webs and hold spells, for example.
Certainly, I would consider the Spider's Bane superior to any
non-exceptional +1 weapon, and probably more useful than most +2 weapons
as well. But that is just an opinion of course.
Rich

Limekiller

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I concur with all of that. I didn't always use Spider's bane, but I kept it
around as a specialty weapon. I gave it to a character who normally used
sword and shield, but I had him use SB when the situation called for a two
handed sword and the free action spell.

It's really one of the more valuable weapons, imho.

Limekiller

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Balderik

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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I believe the thing to do is to go for speed factor above all else when
choosing the swords.
--
Regards...
...Balderik


"Sean C" <corb...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Is the Spider's Bane a useful sword to keep? I noticed it is worth about
> 6000 gold.
>
> I have two fighters in my party. One has been using the Spider's Bane and
> the other has been using the Bastard Sword +1.
>
> I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
> Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
> this wise?
>
> Also, what is better...a Bastard Sword, Long Sword or Two Handed Sword?
>

> Thanks!
>
>

Colin E

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Balderik <bald...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I believe the thing to do is to go for speed factor above all
else when
> choosing the swords.
> --
> Regards...
> ...Balderik
>

So you'd stick with a dagger or short sword? :-)
No, I agree with you early in the game when your hit points are
low and your AC is not. Getting in that first strike in a round
can be life saving. But by the time the Spider's Bane is in the
picture, the position has changed - a lot.
--
Colin E.

Ykalon Dragon

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Balderik wrote:
>
> I believe the thing to do is to go for speed factor above all else when
> choosing the swords.
> --
> Regards...
> ...Balderik

I usually agree but not in this case since the Spiderbane has a free
action spell attached to it. Very useful in Cloakwood with all the
spiders and webtraps.


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NottChet

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In article <sK4K4.6763$WF.4...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Sean C"
<corb...@att.net> writes:

>I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
>Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
>this wise?

IIRC, Spider's Bane has a bonus vs. spiders, so is very handy. Also, I'm not
sure, but doesn't it convey Free Action? That's very handy in areas where you
might run into webs.
If you've got a warrior-class character with several quick-weapon slots, why
not equip Spider's Band and one of those other swords? If you're thinking of it
solely from a money point, you usually wind up with more money than you can
spend late in the game, but there's only one Spider's Bane.
---
Freudmund

Rune Christensen

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Sean C skrev i meddelelsen ...

>Is the Spider's Bane a useful sword to keep? I noticed it is worth about
>6000 gold.
>
>I have two fighters in my party. One has been using the Spider's Bane and
>the other has been using the Bastard Sword +1.
>
>I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
>Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
>this wise?

No.

Spider's Bane is a two-handed sword +2, with the additional power of a
permanent Free Action spell, which makes you immune to Web, Hold Person,
Entangle, Grease, web traps, and suchlike. It does 1d10+2 points of damage
per hit.

There are two main drawbacks to using two-handed swords (though depending on
your style of play, you may not consider them to be drawbacks at all): You
cannot use a shield while you wield Spider's Bane or any other two-handed
sword (which means your AC might not be as healthy as you'd like it to be),
and thieves cannot backstab with a two-handed sword (but then, only dual- or
multi-classed fighter/thieves can use two-handed swords anyway).

Your long sword does 1d8+1 damage/hit, while your bastard sword does 2d4+1
damage/hit. Neither weapon has any special ability ala Spider's Bane's
permanent Free Action spell. You many employ shields while fighting with
long swords and bastard swords.

Rune Christensen
r...@post.tele.dk

WiCkdULL

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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i have to say its a great weapon for a fighter who uses a bow alot... you cant
use a shield anyway, and the free action comes in handy at time too

Serafin Nunez

"Be born then, gasp wind, screech at the surgeon's slap, seek manhood, taste a
little of godhood, feel pain, give birth, stuggle a little while, succumb.
(Dying, leave quietly by the rear exit, please.)"-A Canticle for Leibowitz

vincentm

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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In article <8dcq30$14m6$1...@news.cybercity.dk>, "Rune

Christensen" <r...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote:
> Spider's Bane is a two-handed sword +2, with the
> additional power of a
> permanent Free Action spell, which makes you immune to
> Web, Hold Person,
> Entangle, Grease, web traps, and suchlike.

When I have used it I have not been immune to Grease. Is
this correct, or a glitch or something on my part?


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WiCkdULL

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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it allso fucks up haste and boots of speed...

Rune Christensen

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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vincentm skrev i meddelelsen
<20732b8c...@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com>...

>In article <8dcq30$14m6$1...@news.cybercity.dk>, "Rune
>Christensen" <r...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>> Spider's Bane is a two-handed sword +2, with the
>> additional power of a
>> permanent Free Action spell, which makes you immune to
>> Web, Hold Person,
>> Entangle, Grease, web traps, and suchlike.
>
>When I have used it I have not been immune to Grease. Is
>this correct, or a glitch or something on my part?

Hmmm, I don't know. I've NEVER EVER had someone use a Grease spell against
my party. It simply never happen IME. The bit about immunity to Hold, Grease
etc. spells I took from the TOSC manual's description of the Free Action
spell.

Rune Christensen

Peter

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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WiCkdULL wrote:

> it allso fucks up haste and boots of speed...

No, that's the RING of free action, not the Sword...

Xaron (the annoying)

hansi

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:59:04 GMT, "Sean C" <corb...@att.net> wrote:

>Is the Spider's Bane a useful sword to keep? I noticed it is worth about
>6000 gold.
>
>I have two fighters in my party. One has been using the Spider's Bane and
>the other has been using the Bastard Sword +1.
>
>I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
>Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
>this wise?
>

>Also, what is better...a Bastard Sword, Long Sword or Two Handed Sword?
>
>Thanks!
>

I also got the spider Bane, but at the time my two palladins used +2
and +1 longswords and i sold it, form my experienses it is really not
that cool. The problem is that I dont remember where I got the +2
longsword, try posting a message on that, it is much better.
Good luck


Rune Christensen

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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hansi skrev i meddelelsen <00lrfscodf53sqc5a...@4ax.com>...

>On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:59:04 GMT, "Sean C" <corb...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
>>Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
>>this wise?
>
>I also got the spider Bane, but at the time my two palladins used +2
>and +1 longswords and i sold it, form my experienses it is really not
>that cool. The problem is that I dont remember where I got the +2
>longsword, try posting a message on that, it is much better.

You're most probably referring to Varscona, a long sword +2, +1 cold damage.
This sword belongs to Greywolf, a bounty hunter whom you meet immediately
south of the entrance to the Nashkell mines.

Rune Christensen

WiCkdULL

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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why would you get rid of spider's bane and keep a longsword+1???

Rich C. Velay

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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WiCkdULL wrote:
>
> why would you get rid of spider's bane and keep a longsword+1???
> Serafin Nunez
>

RCV: I was wondering that myself! lafffs. Now, keeping a +1 L sword
in lieu fof a +1 2-hander I can understand [speed factor] but give up a
permanent Free Action for an extra +1 to hit and +2 to damage?
Everyone has their own way of playing, of course.
Rich

Ykalon Dragon

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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hansi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:59:04 GMT, "Sean C" <corb...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >Is the Spider's Bane a useful sword to keep? I noticed it is worth about
> >6000 gold.
> >
> >I have two fighters in my party. One has been using the Spider's Bane and
> >the other has been using the Bastard Sword +1.
> >
> >I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was thinking about selling the
> >Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1 and Bastard Sword +1. Is
> >this wise?
> >
> >Also, what is better...a Bastard Sword, Long Sword or Two Handed Sword?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> I also got the spider Bane, but at the time my two palladins used +2
> and +1 longswords and i sold it, form my experienses it is really not
> that cool. The problem is that I dont remember where I got the +2
> longsword, try posting a message on that, it is much better.
> Good luck

Well it is certainly better than a +1 Longsword, I think you made a
mistake selling it. Yes the Longsword +1 is quicker, but you don't get
any extra attack because it's faster. It just means that you will attack
first. The Spider Bane does a lot more damage than a Longsword +1, and
it allows free movement, excellent against Sirines and areas filled with
webs.

ter...@my-deja.com

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In article <sK4K4.6763$WF.442868@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

"Sean C" <corb...@att.net> wrote:
> Is the Spider's Bane a useful sword to keep? I
noticed it is worth about
> 6000 gold.
>
> I have two fighters in my party. One has been
using the Spider's Bane and
> the other has been using the Bastard Sword +1.
>
> I recently found a Long Sword +1 so, I was
thinking about selling the
> Spider's Bane and then using the Long Sword +1
and Bastard Sword +1. Is
> this wise?
>
> Also, what is better...a Bastard Sword, Long
Sword or Two Handed Sword?
>
> Thanks!
>
>


Well i thought the spiders bane werent too bad so
dont sell it, however there r loadsa better
swords out there. I prefer the sowrd i got off
greywolf.
However all swords pale into comparison with the
ones i got off Drizzt today!! :))))

after half an hour of attacking i finally got him
dead....(took a whole wand of summoning though)
This two schimators rule.. One has an ac bonus of
2 or sommin and his armour rox
the other schimator rocks as well.. Man these
long swords never miss!!!..
So my advice is to stuff spiders bane and go get
drizzt!, unless u let him go...

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Before you buy.

Xe Dragon

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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ter...@my-deja.com wrote:

> after half an hour of attacking i finally got him
> dead....(took a whole wand of summoning though)
> This two schimators rule.. One has an ac bonus of
> 2 or sommin and his armour rox
> the other schimator rocks as well.. Man these
> long swords never miss!!!..
> So my advice is to stuff spiders bane and go get
> drizzt!, unless u let him go...

Too bad Drizzt's +5 Defender requires a good alignment. What
good-aligned char would take out Drizzt to get his Defender? Not
particularly believable -- but, hey, whatever turns your crank. Wanna
pretend your char has a good alignment, but then murder Drizzt and steal
his stuff? Whatever. Seems to me just using gatekeeper would be faster
and easier.


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