Accents in BG2
Lotta Roti
I'll start with the ones I know.
Korgan - Scottish. Heard somewhere that it is something like a tradition
that fantasy dwarves talk Scottish.
Imoen - American English. Perhaps for the friendly, informal effect.
Saemon Havarian (and almost all the thieves) - Australian. Maybe because the
population originates from exiled criminals? (Not the aboriginals)
Keldorn and Irenicus - British English, high class. Probably because of the
distinguished nature of their character.
Guesses:
Edwin - East European as in Russian, Lithuanian or the like. Funny since
Thay is rather an Arab society (loosely).
Commoners in Atkhatla: Cockney.
Haer'Dalis: Shakespearean English. He is an actor after all.
Ones of which I'm especially interested of:
Viconia
Jaheira: what in blazes is that strange lilt?
Raelis Shai: really strange and rather and enchanting one.
Guesses and theories would be greatly appreciated.
Htn963
>What accents do the characters speak (and why?)
>I'll start with the ones I know.
>
>Korgan - Scottish. Heard somewhere that it is something like a tradition
>that fantasy dwarves talk Scottish.
Or Irish, e.g. the dwarven sappers in Warcraft 2: "Bom's are grreat!"
>Imoen - American English. Perhaps for the friendly, informal effect.
Go USA!!
>Saemon Havarian (and almost all the thieves) - Australian. Maybe because the
>population originates from exiled criminals?
Ah, that explains everything. Except for Arian, of course.
>(Not the aboriginals)
Who, like the American Indians, were noble, uncorruptible savages.
>Keldorn and Irenicus - British English, high class. Probably because of the
>distinguished nature of their character.
General rule: the higher the accent, the lower the moral.
>Guesses:
>
>Edwin - East European as in Russian, Lithuanian or the like. Funny since
>Thay is rather an Arab society (loosely).
There's an amusing supertroll in the strategic gaming newsgroup named
Istvan, a Hungarian. That's exactly how I pictured he would sound.
>Commoners in Atkhatla: Cockney.
Which also seems to be the assigned accent for Halflings. Should
halflings take up arms then?
>Haer'Dalis: Shakespearean English. He is an actor after all.
But no Laurence Olivier. And his taste in women is terrible.
>Ones of which I'm especially interested of:
>
>Viconia
Las Vegas, esp. in the vicinity of The Crazy Horse Saloon.
>Jaheira: what in blazes is that strange lilt?
I'd asked about this before but didn't receive a reply. My guess is it's
Persian.
>Raelis Shai: really strange and rather and enchanting one.
Hmm, yes, this accent is the one that turns me on most next to Jaheira's.
I think it's Welsh. Speaker-to-Customers might be able to field this one.
>Guesses and theories would be greatly appreciated.
Don't forget:
Anomen -- New England
Yoshimo -- Hollywood Chinese/Japanese
Mazzy -- "Upper" English
Rens Krijgsman
> >Jaheira: what in blazes is that strange lilt?
Somekind of Eastern Europa also? Maybe Russian accent?
Rens
Kazoo King
"Rens Krijgsman" <rapto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > >Jaheira: what in blazes is that strange lilt?
>
> Somekind of Eastern Europa also? Maybe Russian accent?
Sounds likely. She reminds me of my girlfriend's Russian flatmate, both in
voice and rating on the bitchometer.
Lotta Roti
"Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> >Jaheira: what in blazes is that strange lilt?
>
> I'd asked about this before but didn't receive a reply. My guess is
it's
> Persian.
>
> >Raelis Shai: really strange and rather and enchanting one.
>
> Hmm, yes, this accent is the one that turns me on most next to
Jaheira's.
> I think it's Welsh. Speaker-to-Customers might be able to field this
one.
Funny, I'm female and hetero, but I also really like the way Jaheira and
Raelis talk. Jaheiras portrait is also very beautiful. Which reminds me of
how I blew a game of mine yesterday. I made a character specifically
designed to be Aeries boyfriend (I want to try everything). But when the
crucial moment came I just couldn't bring myself to choose her over Jaheira
(especially right after that vicious rant about Khalid!)
Seems that if I want to play as Aeries boyfriend I can't have either Jaheira
or Viconia in my party.
Ich
<9e39og$57r$1...@news.kolumbus.fi>:
-snip-
>I made a character specifically designed to be Aeries boyfriend
-snip-
LOL! I'm curious what a character "specifically designed to be Aeries
boyfriend" looks like...
Lotta Roti
"Ich" <n...@mail.here> wrote in message news:9e3bgs$ht1$1...@wanadoo.fr...
>
> LOL! I'm curious what a character "specifically designed to be Aeries
> boyfriend" looks like...
Ironic as it is, I actually used Khalid's portrait. :) (Because it looked
enough like an elf and I was too tired to go and download a more suitable
one). I thought the guy would be a little flaky, socially clueless but
well-intentioned elven mage who would feel sorry for Aerie and want to
protect her, totally oblivious of her cunning.
Xforce
mankind would fall on their knees to worship her. heh.
but i prefer my gf than jaheira though.. if thats not asking too much. :)
Xforce
nature.. easy going but underneath that display lies a cunning and intelligent
mind.
And if you got something against that, i'll sic the Roos on ya! j/k ;)
and no, David Letterman's joke about us being Penal isnt funny either!! :P
Lotta Roti wrote:
> Saemon Havarian (and almost all the thieves) - Australian. Maybe because the
> population originates from exiled criminals? (Not the aboriginals)
>
and on that note, canada was initially composed of exiles as well, likewise the
US too. until they couldnt ship anymore over there, they had to find a new land
to ship em.. and thats how we all are here down under.
Lotta Roti
"Xforce" <hue...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> Ahem.. the aussie slang/accent is an example of a race whom is carefree
in
> nature.. easy going but underneath that display lies a cunning and
intelligent
> mind.
>
> And if you got something against that, i'll sic the Roos on ya! j/k ;)
Not at all! I have liked all the Aussies I have met. I was merely wondering
about the reasoning behind assigning the accent to thieves. I think it's
actually rather cool.
>
> and on that note, canada was initially composed of exiles as well,
likewise the
> US too.
Wasn't US composed of those pioneering emigrants though? Or did they just
have a better press agent?
Ich
Quite well found... Yes, that's the profile.
Lotta Roti
"Ich" <n...@mail.here> wrote in message news:9e3fg7$6qm$1...@wanadoo.fr...
> >
> > Ironic as it is, I actually used Khalid's portrait. :) (Because it
looked
> > enough like an elf and I was too tired to go and download a more
suitable
> > one). I thought the guy would be a little flaky, socially clueless but
> > well-intentioned elven mage who would feel sorry for Aerie and want to
> > protect her, totally oblivious of her cunning.
> >
>
> Quite well found... Yes, that's the profile.
Reminds me of a (male) friend of mine, who, when he was 21 years old, said
that he liked "cute, helpless and feminine" girls who couldn't use computers
or fix cars, because it felt so grand and masculine to be able to help and
protect them.
When he was like 5 years older, he said that such creatures annoy the
bejesus out of him when you get to know them better. And then he married a
very capable and strong woman.
Ich
-snip-
> Reminds me of a (male) friend of mine, who, when he was 21 years old,
> said that he liked "cute, helpless and feminine" girls who couldn't use
> computers or fix cars, because it felt so grand and masculine to be able
> to help and protect them.
Oh yes, people often don't realize, but it's very hard being a *man*... So,
all help is much appreciated... :D
Bill Mason
(i.e. Europeans,) by fur traders and privateers (pirates), not by convicted
criminals - unless you're counting Leif Ericsson, who was actually the son
of a convicted criminal, not convicted himself.
The exiles that Canada has given a home to were British Loyalists escaping
the American Revolution, escaped African slaves, and Foreign Protestants who
were invited here by the British. Not to mention American draft dodgers...
again, not "convicted" criminals.
"Xforce" <hue...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> and on that note, canada was initially composed of exiles as well,
Arian Hokin
> "Lotta Roti" wrote:
>
> >Saemon Havarian (and almost all the thieves) - Australian.
Really? I haven't heard any thieves talk - I'm probably not far enough along in
the game. Either that or it's 'cause I'm running BG2 on a P233, with all the
snazzy stuff turned off :-)
Surely they didn't use real Australian voice-actors? 'Cause if they didn't, the
accent will be so bad that no Australian would recognise it as one at all;
Americans tend to make us sound like either Cockneys or South Africans when
imitating our accents.
I mean, Rocko from the Nickelodeon cartoon "Rocko's Modern Life" is said to be a
wallaby, so I *suppose* he must be meant to sound Australian, but he has the least
identifiably Oz accent I ever heard!
> >Maybe because the population originates from exiled criminals?
Most of it doesn't, these days. Yes, the first white arrivals were either convicts
or their gaolers, but most of our ancestors arrived in more recent waves of
immigration, much to the disappointment of those who'd quite like to discover that
they had a convict ancestor. :-)
And some States, most notably South Australia, were settled entirely by free
settlers and proud of it! ;-)
> Ah, that explains everything. Except for Arian, of course.
:-p
;-)
> >(Not the aboriginals)
>
Could you pick an Aboriginal accent if you heard one, Lotta? ;-)
> Who, like the American Indians, were noble, uncorruptible savages.
>
Now there's snide! Abuse the indigenous people of your own country if you insist,
but kindly keep your fork out of those of mine, given that you don't "have all the
facts I do".
Arian
Lotta Roti
"Arian Hokin" <ar...@holly.northnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> > >Maybe because the population originates from exiled criminals?
>
> Most of it doesn't, these days.
Sure. It is just something they remember to tell everyone in school (at
least here in Finland and probably in other countries of Europe too). And so
I thought they mighta used is as their rationale.
Yes, the first white arrivals were either convicts
> or their gaolers, but most of our ancestors arrived in more recent waves
of
> immigration, much to the disappointment of those who'd quite like to
discover that
> they had a convict ancestor. :-)
:) Like I said, it really is kind of cool. My own ancestors were Hungarian
gypsy thieves, or at least that's what my grandmother tells me.
> Could you pick an Aboriginal accent if you heard one, Lotta? ;-)
Probably not. I did see a famous movie of them, but that isn't enough.
Xforce
words.. if you get what i mean..
but i guess its hard unless you hear it for yourself.. anyhow, i got a few
aboriginal families living on the same street over here in suburbia.. :)
bl...@table.blackguild.nos.pam.com
> LOL! I'm curious what a character "specifically designed to be Aeries
> boyfriend" looks like...
Anomen. That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.
Those two were *made* for one another.
--
Geoffrey Brent
Reply email: g.brent at student.unsw.edu.au
Someone who knew how to edit responses properly
wouldn't be quoting this .sig.
bl...@table.blackguild.nos.pam.com
> Saemon Havarian (and almost all the thieves) - Australian. Maybe because the
> population originates from exiled criminals? (Not the aboriginals)
"And Australia, as you know, is populated entirely
by criminals!" (0 pt. ref...)
Oddly enough, I've run into quite a few Americans who
knew about the convicts in Australia but were completely
unaware (and sometimes vehemently refused to believe)
that Great Britain also sent convicts to America until
the Revolution. While the convict stuff makes for great
high-school history and has had a fair bit of influence
on attitudes, the convicts are only a fraction of the
people who've migrated to Australia since 1788.
IIRC, the stereotypical Australian accent comes from
East End London, plus a good deal of Irish, plus a
local contribution: if you open your mouth too wide,
the flies will get in ;-)
Tell you the truth, though, I didn't pick Haevarian's
accent as Australian because it was so far removed
from anything I hear in day-to-day life. It's more a
parody of an Aussie accent than the real thing. (As
is anything spoken by people with "Crocodile" in their
name or job description.) Now you mention it, I can
see his accent _is_ supposed to be Australian (or one
of the others from which Australian derives), but it
was so exaggerated that I didn't recognise it on my
own.
bl...@table.blackguild.nos.pam.com
> "Arian Hokin" <ar...@holly.northnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3B058678...@holly.northnet.com.au...>
>> > >Maybe because the population originates from exiled criminals?
>>
>> Most of it doesn't, these days.
> Sure. It is just something they remember to tell everyone in school (at
> least here in Finland and probably in other countries of Europe too). And so
JOC, do they ever mention the convict settlements in
the Americas when they're telling you about the
Australian ones?
bl...@table.blackguild.nos.pam.com
> Wasn't US composed of those pioneering emigrants though? Or did they just
> have a better press agent?
USA was originally (well, excepting the Indians, and
possibly a few Vikings) settled by the Pilgrims, but
like Australia it's had a lot of immigration from
a wide range of sources since then. One joke goes
"America got the Puritans, Australia got the convicts,
and that explains the differences between the two."
Incidentally, there seems to be fairly good evidence
that the convicts & guards of 1788 _weren't_ the
first whites to settle in Australia. There were Dutch
ships in the region for a couple of hundred years
before that, and it seems some of the sailors got
shipwrecked and were assimilated by one of the nearby
Aboriginal tribes.
Laura Uerling
> Lotta Roti <lotta...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
>
> > Saemon Havarian (and almost all the thieves) - Australian. Maybe because the
> > population originates from exiled criminals? (Not the aboriginals)
>
> "And Australia, as you know, is populated entirely
> by criminals!" (0 pt. ref...)
The Princess Bride.
> Oddly enough, I've run into quite a few Americans who
> knew about the convicts in Australia but were completely
> unaware (and sometimes vehemently refused to believe)
> that Great Britain also sent convicts to America until
> the Revolution.
There's a quite good series of historical fiction/romance stories set in Scotland
and America in the mid-to-late 1700's that discusses this quite explicitly.
Evidently, a lot of Scots who fought in 1745 were transported to North America
after the Crown got tired of paying to keep them in prison. I've no doubt that
lots of other 'undesirables' were transported too.
> While the convict stuff makes for great
> high-school history and has had a fair bit of influence
> on attitudes, the convicts are only a fraction of the
> people who've migrated to Australia since 1788.
Similarly, the Puritans were a *very* small portion of the immigrants to the US.
But hey, they wore funny clothes, burned witches and did the Thanksgiving thing
with the Indians so they get all press. I've no idea why the fact that convicts
were sent to the proto-US isn't better known. Just one of those quirks of history,
I suppose.
<snip>
Laura Uerling
luer...@lynx.neu.edu
Lotta Roti
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> Lotta Roti <lotta...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> JOC, do they ever mention the convict settlements in
> the Americas when they're telling you about the
> Australian ones?
Nope. This is the first time I hear about it. Better press agent, yep.
Luke Goaman-Dodson
>
> >What accents do the characters speak (and why?)
> >I'll start with the ones I know.
> >
> >Korgan - Scottish. Heard somewhere that it is something like a
tradition
> >that fantasy dwarves talk Scottish.
>
> Or Irish, e.g. the dwarven sappers in Warcraft 2: "Bom's are
grreat!"
Very PC.
Luke Goaman-Dodson
>
> Somekind of Eastern Europa also? Maybe Russian accent?
That's what I thought. Strange really since Druids never existed in
those areas. I would expect Druids to have Welsh or Irish accents.
Mind you, druids didn't have scimitars, leather armour, or stone
circle temples, so perhaps I'm expecting a bit too much of the design
team. :)
Barbarian X
"Luke Goaman-Dodson" <bel...@btinternet.com> skrev i meddelandet > Mind you,
druids didn't have scimitars, leather armour, or stone
> circle temples, so perhaps I'm expecting a bit too much of the design
> team. :)
*LOL*
Tho, for some reason, all russian-speaking (with russian accent I mean)
women in fiction tends to be very sexy and hot-blooded...
/S
Glenn Christer Bjørge
"Kazoo King" <saty...@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
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> > > >Jaheira: what in blazes is that strange lilt?
> >
> > Somekind of Eastern Europa also? Maybe Russian accent?
>
> Sounds likely. She reminds me of my girlfriend's Russian flatmate, both
in
> voice and rating on the bitchometer.
>
>
>
From what I heard, the actress is from Romania and uses her natural
accent. I believe she is 50-60 years old, odd choice for young Jaheira,
but it seems to work well.
Imoen is voiced by Melissa Disney, actually Walt Disney's
granddaughter.
Speaking of accents, is it the same actress who does Nalia and Raelis
Shai? Raelis sounds as a slower and more thoughtful Nalia in some parts.
--
Glenn
Htn963
<gcb...@online.no> writes:
>From what I heard, the actress is from Romania and uses her natural
>accent.
Her name is Jennifer Darling.
>I believe she is 50-60 years old,
Ah, more ammunitions to the detractors who quipped that Jaheira is the
<pc>'s mother. But perhaps it is _elf_ years.
> odd choice for young Jaheira, but it seems to work well.
Indeed, I might have to radically revise my age standards for dating from
now on. And I did note in a past post that I wouldn't care if Jaheira was as
old as Lloth... "You're sixteen hundred, you're beautiful, and you're mine."
>Imoen is voiced by Melissa Disney, actually Walt Disney's
>granddaughter.
I also query about this relationship before but didn't receive a reply.
So she's actually Walt's kin, eh? She also does Viconia -- boy, Disney's not
for kids anymore!
>Speaking of accents, is it the same actress who does Nalia and Raelis
>Shai? Raelis sounds as a slower and more thoughtful Nalia in some parts.
Sounds plausible. BTW, Dynaheir, Mazzy, and PST's Fall-From-Grace were
done by the same actress, Jennifer Hale.
I don't recall who did Aerie at the moment but she deserves a good acting
of bad acting award -- her "uh, ah, oh, I don't think I can't go on, waahhhh!"
bit was priceless.
Glenn Christer Bjørge
"Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> skrev i melding
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>From what I heard, the actress is from Romania and uses her natural
>accent.
> Her name is Jennifer Darling.
>I believe she is 50-60 years old,
> Ah, more ammunitions to the detractors who quipped that Jaheira is
the
><pc>'s mother. But perhaps it is _elf_ years.
Ah, birth date 19 june 1946. Let's pray it's elfyears... Place of birth
Oklahoma, USA. Hm, quite a lot of people have agreed that it is a
Romanian accent, let's hope I was right on that.
Jennifer Darling has also been in two Leisure Suit Larry games.
She has also been on the Smurfs...
Still love her, just like you. Had an amusing bug with my first game,
my female hard-asss fighter protagonist buyed Jaheira a locket. Later, in
Spellhold, Aerie called her 'my dear' and freaked out when
Gwendolyn transformed into the Slayer. Who said there wasn't
same-sex relationships in BGII :-) ? No other romance aspects
occured and it¨has never happened again, but it was still fun.
.
> I also query about this relationship before but didn't receive a
reply.
> So she's actually Walt's kin, eh? She also does Viconia -- boy, Disney's
not
> for kids anymore!
Hm, after a little browsing, it seems as if she is a distant cousin. I could
swear
she was a granddaughter, but ah well... Sorry about that. Still kin.
There was one on the Black Isle messageboards who heard Melissa in a
commercial. She used her Imoen voice and he said it was weird hearing Imoen
advertise for make-up :-). I want to hear the outtakes in BGII.
'Hiya, it's me. EVIL Imoen.' in her BG1 voice, and following that with
a low evil snigger 'You WILL learn to trust me'. David Gaider at Bioware
sweared that it was bound to get out since everyone was using it as a
desktop sound... This was about the time when there was a lot of
speculation about Imoen betraying you. Gaider had absolutely no idea how
Melissa knew about this.
I'm not so sure about the Viconia thing, I think there was some bad
information around somewhere. Do you use www.imdb.com ? I seem to
remember a casting list from the Audio Director, Charles Deenen, at
Interplay
and it was different. The list was reprinted on the message boards not
long ago, but I cannot find it on any message board or websites. Sorry...
Hm, Viconia has different actresses in BGI and BGII, maybe I'm confused
by that. I'll shut up now.
> Sounds plausible. BTW, Dynaheir, Mazzy, and PST's Fall-From-Grace
were
> done by the same actress, Jennifer Hale.
>
She does a good job, doesn't she? I remember hearing Mazzy for the first
time.
I almost got nuts trying to figure out where I had heard that voice before,
when
I finally remembered Fall-From-Grace. She is also in Gabriel Knight III,
namely Madeline Buthane. Loved Torment, too bad we won't get a sequel.
Want Sheena Easton back for more voice acting though.
> I don't recall who did Aerie at the moment but she deserves a good
acting
> of bad acting award -- her "uh, ah, oh, I don't think I can't go on,
waahhhh!"
> bit was priceless.
Indeed. She,Anomen and Nalia, maybe some more NPCs get new voice sets
in ToB, should be interesting. Aerie and Anomen really got on my nerves.
For some reason, I never had any problem with Nalia though. Haughty
Nalia in Tob, should be interesting. One of her new battle cries is
according
to David Gaider 'Evil will fall'. He said she was easier to tolerate now...
You seem to have some interest in the voice acting. I found some of the
voice actors in BGII while I was searching for the list above.
I apologize for the bad formatting:
Billy West, also known for Ren, Stimpy, Mr. Horse and the
Scottsman (figures) = Korgan.
Charlie Adler (Cow and Chicken) = Shade lord, Amaunator.
Jennifer Hale (powerpuff girls) = Mazzy.
Wayne Grace=Elhan
Melissa Disney(powerpuff girls)=Viconia
Cam Clarke(Freddy Pharkas)=Drizzt, Aran Linvail
Dee Bradley Baker(Dragonball Z)=Nalia, also Skie in BGI. Spoiled
nobles as speciality, I see...
Jeff Benett(Darkwing Duck)=.Yoshimo
David Warner(ST6 and many others)=Irenicus
Michael Dorn(Worf)=Bhaal Isn't listed in the manual, confirmed as
an oversight.
Tress Macneil(Simpsons)=The wife in the Copper Coronet
Maurice LeMarche(The Brain)=Renal Bloodscalp
Amber Hood=Bohdi
Kevin M. Richardson = Sarevok
--
Glenn
Luke Goaman-Dodson
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> You seem to have some interest in the voice acting. I found some of
the
> voice actors in BGII while I was searching for the list above.
Doesn't the bloke who plays Cat in Catdog do the voice for Minsc?
Htn963
<gcb...@online.no> writes:
>"Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> skrev i melding
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<snip>
>>I believe she [Jennifer Darling] is 50-60 years old,
>
>> Ah, more ammunitions to the detractors who quipped that Jaheira is
>the
>><pc>'s mother. But perhaps it is _elf_ years.
>
>Ah, birth date 19 june 1946. Let's pray it's elfyears...
Egads! _my_ mother's birthdate is 20 june 1946. She's the woman I most
admire in rl, but not _that_ way. Though I might add, she still looks and
sounds just as good as Jaheira, if not even better. <Waves> "Hi, Mom!"
> Place of birthOklahoma, USA. Hm, quite a lot of people have agreed that it
is a
>Romanian accent, let's hope I was right on that.
A romanian born in Oklahoma, USA who managed to keep her East European
accent? Or perhaps she lived most of her life in Romania.
>Jennifer Darling has also been in two Leisure Suit Larry games.
Hmm, I was never tempted to try those games...until now.
>Still love her, just like you.
Ah, another gamer with good taste in women. Jaheira devotees are now
coming out everywhere. We will eventually take over this newsgroup and drive
out all the namby pamby Aerie admirers and sullen Viconia victims!:)
>Had an amusing bug with my first game,
>my female hard-asss fighter protagonist buyed Jaheira a locket. Later, in
>Spellhold, Aerie called her 'my dear' and freaked out when
>Gwendolyn transformed into the Slayer. Who said there wasn't
>same-sex relationships in BGII :-) ? No other romance aspects
>occured and it¨has never happened again, but it was still fun.
>.
Unless you had installed the multiple romance patch, I have no idea how
those "lesbian" bugs could have occurred:)
>> I also query about this relationship before but didn't receive a
>reply.
>> So she's [Melissa Disney] actually Walt's kin, eh? She also does Viconia --
boy, Disney's
>not
>> for kids anymore!
<snip>
>I'm not so sure about the Viconia thing, I think there was some bad
>information around somewhere. Do you use www.imdb.com ?
I didn't know about this site until you mentioned it -- but thanks, I
recently went there and obtained a first-billed casting list for BG2 which I've
appended below for the records -- unfortunately, it doesn't specify who voiced
which npc's...
>I seem to
>remember a casting list from the Audio Director, Charles Deenen, at
>Interplay
>and it was different. The list was reprinted on the message boards not
>long ago, but I cannot find it on any message board or websites. Sorry...
>Hm, Viconia has different actresses in BGI and BGII, maybe I'm confused
>by that. I'll shut up now.
You could be right about someone else voicing BG2's Viconia. The first
site (credit to Flarn for finding it) I obtained my voice info from
http://www.voicechasers.org/VideoGames/bauldersgate.html listed Melissa Disney
as doing Viconia only for BG1, and Viconia does sound much more vigorous and
husky in BG2. I had difficulty picturing someone who had voiced sweet,
innocent Imoen delivering lines such as: "Come then, my m'rann d'ssinns, let
us get our coupling over with quickly."
>> Sounds plausible. BTW, Dynaheir, Mazzy, and PST's Fall-From-Grace
>were
>> done by the same actress, Jennifer Hale.
>>
>
>She does a good job, doesn't she? I remember hearing Mazzy for the first
>time.
>I almost got nuts trying to figure out where I had heard that voice before,
>when
>I finally remembered Fall-From-Grace. She is also in Gabriel Knight III,
>namely Madeline Buthane.
Gabriel Knight 1 was one of the few adventure games I liked, despite having
the usual syndrome of weird, illogical puzzles, it had a terrific story and
some riveting moments. The second was a disappointment -- ick, the werewolf we
finally got to see was so tacky. I passed up on the third, but this might be
another incentive to try it.
>Loved Torment, too bad we won't get a sequel.
I liked it, but not as much as BG2, or even BG1. I would definitely play
the sequel, but I'm not holding my breath.
>Want Sheena Easton back for more voice acting though.
Hehe, Sheena Easton was the main reason Speaker-to-Customers would even
consider trying Torment again. I have a thing for redheads, but curiously,
wasn't quite as taken with Annah as with Fall-From-Grace.
>> I don't recall who did Aerie at the moment but she deserves a good
>acting
>> of bad acting award -- her "uh, ah, oh, I don't think I can't go on,
>waahhhh!"
>> bit was priceless.
>
>Indeed. She,Anomen and Nalia, maybe some more NPCs get new voice sets
>in ToB, should be interesting. Aerie and Anomen really got on my nerves.
>For some reason, I never had any problem with Nalia though. Haughty
>Nalia in Tob, should be interesting. One of her new battle cries is
>according
>to David Gaider 'Evil will fall'. He said she was easier to tolerate now...
If new voice sets will be added to the npc's _and_ more dialogs will be
added to the romances, then I'll definitely get TOB. Npc interaction is the
name of the game in BG2.
>You seem to have some interest in the voice acting. I found some of the
>voice actors in BGII while I was searching for the list above.
>I apologize for the bad formatting:
>Billy West, also known for Ren, Stimpy, Mr. Horse and the
>Scottsman (figures) = Korgan.
How apropos.
>Charlie Adler (Cow and Chicken) = Shade lord, Amaunator.
>Jennifer Hale (powerpuff girls) = Mazzy.
>Wayne Grace=Elhan
>Melissa Disney(powerpuff girls)=Viconia
>Cam Clarke(Freddy Pharkas)=Drizzt, Aran Linvail
>Dee Bradley Baker(Dragonball Z)=Nalia, also Skie in BGI. Spoiled
>nobles as speciality, I see...
>Jeff Benett(Darkwing Duck)=.Yoshimo
>David Warner(ST6 and many others)=Irenicus
>Michael Dorn(Worf)=Bhaal Isn't listed in the manual, confirmed as
>an oversight.
>Tress Macneil(Simpsons)=The wife in the Copper Coronet
>Maurice LeMarche(The Brain)=Renal Bloodscalp
>Amber Hood=Bohdi
>Kevin M. Richardson = Sarevok
>
>--
>Glenn
Thanks for the info. And here's the first-billed BG2 cast list from the
www.imdb.com site you mentioned:
Cast (in credits order)
Dee Bradley Baker
Jeff Bennett
Gregg Berger
Cam Clarke
Jim Cummings
Grey DeLisle
Melissa Disney
Michael Gough (II)
Wayne Grace
Jennifer Hale
Heidi Shannon
Amber Hood
James Horan
Roger L. Jackson
Charity James
Nick Jamison
Maurice LaMarche
Jim Meskimen
Tress MacNeille
John Mariano
Jason Marsden
Alan Oppenheimer
Jeff Osterhage
Valerie Pappas
Rob Paulsen
Diane Pershing
Kevin Michael Richardson
Jack Roth
Dwight Schultz
Kath Soucie
B.J. Ward (III)
Frank Welker
David Warner .... Jon Irenicus (voice)
Donovan Workun
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Sheri Dayton
Billy West (II) .... Lehtinan
OTL
news:wexP6.1042$lM3....@news1.oke.nextra.no...
>news:20010522151453...@nso-mr.news.cs.com...
>>From what I heard, the actress is from Romania and uses her natural
>>accent.
>
>> Her name is Jennifer Darling.
>
>>I believe she is 50-60 years old,
>
>>Ah, more ammunitions to the detractors who quipped that Jaheira is the
>><pc>'s mother. But perhaps it is _elf_ years.
>
>Ah, birth date 19 june 1946. Let's pray it's elfyears... Place of birth
>Oklahoma, USA. Hm, quite a lot of people have agreed that it is a
>Romanian accent, let's hope I was right on that.
Of course, just because she uses a supposedly Romanian accent as Jaheira
doesn't mean that's her natural accent. She also provided the English
dubbed voice for Ayeka in the anime series Tenchi Muyo!, where she sounds
rather British.
Actually, Jennifer Darling isn't credited with having done BG2. Was this
another oversight, or did someone else play Jaheira?
>You seem to have some interest in the voice acting. I found some of the
>voice actors in BGII while I was searching for the list above.
>I apologize for the bad formatting:
>Billy West, also known for Ren, Stimpy, Mr. Horse and the
>Scottsman (figures) = Korgan.
As a tangential aside, Billy West actually does quite a bit of voice work.
The two easiest places to find him nowadays would probably be in Futurama
(he plays Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Zapp Branigan, and Doctor Zoidberg,
among others), and as the red M&M in numerous commercials. He used to
work for Howard Stern, but I won't hold that against him.
>Cam Clarke(Freddy Pharkas)=Drizzt, Aran Linvail
According to the IMDb listing for BG1, Jeff Bennett played Drizzt (as
well as Xan and Quayle) in BG1. Did they switch actors?
>Jeff Benett(Darkwing Duck)=.Yoshimo
Darkwing Duck was played by Jim Cummings, who provided the voice for
Minsc. Jeff Bennett plays Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network.
>Maurice LeMarche(The Brain)=Renal Bloodscalp
He's also all the Amnish soldiers around Athkatla.
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Glenn Christer Bjørge
> >>I believe she [Jennifer Darling] is 50-60 years old,
> > Place of birthOklahoma, USA. Hm, quite a lot of people have agreed that
it
> is a
> >Romanian accent, let's hope I was right on that.
>
> A romanian born in Oklahoma, USA who managed to keep her East
European
> accent? Or perhaps she lived most of her life in Romania.
Perhaps, I can't remember clearly. Very annoying. The name doesn't sound
very East European though. And I still can't seem to find the topics where I
originally read this information.
>
> >Jennifer Darling has also been in two Leisure Suit Larry games.
>
> Hmm, I was never tempted to try those games...until now.
>
Tried nr.5 when it first was new. On my good old Amiga. Damn, I miss that
machine. Jennifer had quite small roles in these games, from what I've heard
and read. She also had 4 roles in King's Quest VIII. She also was in Police
Academy II.
> Ah, another gamer with good taste in women. Jaheira devotees are now
> coming out everywhere. We will eventually take over this newsgroup and
drive
> out all the namby pamby Aerie admirers and sullen Viconia victims!:)
>
Hear, hear... I'm actually quite fond of Imoen too, but please let's not go
there. I'm also one of the few who liked Jaheira in BGI. Maybe it was the
voice, I like it.
> >Had an amusing bug with my first game,
> >my female hard-asss fighter protagonist buyed Jaheira a locket. Later, in
> >Spellhold, Aerie called her 'my dear' and freaked out when
> >Gwendolyn transformed into the Slayer. Who said there wasn't
> >same-sex relationships in BGII :-) ? No other romance aspects
> >occured and it玖as never happened again, but it was still fun.
> >.
>
> Unless you had installed the multiple romance patch, I have no idea
how
> those "lesbian" bugs could have occurred:)
>
It was pre-offical patch. Too bad I haven't a savegame. I have sent the
problem to Kevin Dorner who does a lot of unoffical bug-fixing, and he
believe some variables didn't get set as they should have been. Fun anyway,
not only one but two women.
Gwendolyn had 19 as natural CHA, she must have made quite an impression:). A
fighter import from BGI, 19 in STR, CON and CHA makes the game too easy, but
I've grown too fond of her to not use her in ToB.
> >I'm not so sure about the Viconia thing, I think there was some bad
> >information around somewhere. Do you use www.imdb.com ?
>
> I didn't know about this site until you mentioned it -- but thanks, I
> recently went there and obtained a first-billed casting list for BG2 which
I've
> appended below for the records -- unfortunately, it doesn't specify who
voiced
> which npc's...
>
You're welcome. Just be aware that much of the info there is sent by fans
and therefore is not official. It still is quite accurate though. Interplay
is about the only company who doesn't supply full acting lists in their
manuals. The Audio Director once said that he got a lot of e-mails regarding
BG voice acting and he considered putting up the information on the net.
Unfortunately, it seem to have been forgotten. By the way, chech IMDB-entry
for David Warner. I knew he was an old timer, but he has had a lot of roles.
Loved him in Time Bandits and TRON.
> You could be right about someone else voicing BG2's Viconia. The
first
> site (credit to Flarn for finding it) I obtained my voice info from
> http://www.voicechasers.org/VideoGames/bauldersgate.html listed Melissa
Disney
> as doing Viconia only for BG1, and Viconia does sound much more vigorous
and
> husky in BG2. I had difficulty picturing someone who had voiced sweet,
> innocent Imoen delivering lines such as: "Come then, my m'rann
d'ssinns, let
> us get our coupling over with quickly."
I'm pretty sure that David Gaider said on the message board that they got
all the voice actors from BGI back, with the exception of Viconia. But as he
said, the new one did a good job. The weird thing is, he also said
'Thankfully. You should have heard Viconia's lines read by Imoen's actress.
BLECH.' That makes me wonder. It's a long time ago, before BGII was
released, and I cannot find the exact quote. About innocent Imoen and such
lines, it's the quiet ones you have to watch out for :-).
> Gabriel Knight 1 was one of the few adventure games I liked, despite
having
> the usual syndrome of weird, illogical puzzles, it had a terrific story
and
> some riveting moments. The second was a disappointment -- ick, the
werewolf we
> finally got to see was so tacky. I passed up on the third, but this might
be
> another incentive to try it.
Playing as Grace on GKIII was somewhat interesting, some interesting puzzles
using her laptop. GKII was too much FMV and not enough puzzles if you get my
drift. Weird puzzles in GKI, agreed. The mime and the policeman drove me
nuts for a long time. Loved the Monkey Island series. Too bad the 4th is so
short.
> >Loved Torment, too bad we won't get a sequel.
>
> I liked it, but not as much as BG2, or even BG1. I would definitely
play
> the sequel, but I'm not holding my breath.
What I liked was the weirdness of the setting and the NPCs. Not your
run-of-the-mill fantasy. Surprising end too. I didn't mind reading a lot of
dialogue either. But I'm not holding my breath either. Fallout 3 is more
likely.
> Hehe, Sheena Easton was the main reason Speaker-to-Customers would
even
> consider trying Torment again. I have a thing for redheads, but
curiously,
> wasn't quite as taken with Annah as with Fall-From-Grace.
Heh, I have read the thread. Lurked here for a long while, but I usually
don't post. Maybe I'll change that.
I liked Fall-From-Grace the most, but I loved Sheena's voice acting. She
enjoyed doing the voice acting and Interplay liked her, so maybe one day...
Puritan succubus and the Brothel of Intellectual Lusts, pure stroke of
genius. Morte had a comment regarding this:
Morte: "The only succubus ever to travel with us, and she's a puritan. You
know, I have the worst luck."
FFG: "Your luck seems to blanket us all."
Morte: "I'll say. I... hey, wait a minute."
> If new voice sets will be added to the npc's _and_ more dialogs will
be
> added to the romances, then I'll definitely get TOB. Npc interaction is
the
> name of the game in BG2.
The romances will continue, but there are no new ones. Valygar and Mazzy
seemed to be popular, but ah well... According to Bioware, the romances will
be brought to a satisfactory conclusion, whatever that means. More dialog
(both text and spoken) will be added to all NPCs. Imoen will actually say
something now, but only in the Tob areas, not the original ones. That goes
for all NPCs, maybe not for the romance tracks. I'm looking forward to the
conversation between the new NPC (unnamed because it may be a spoiler) and
Imoen, and the new NPC and the protagonist. Could be fun.
If you search on www.planetbg.com under Charles Deenen, you will find some
comments regarding music and sound. Tob will approx. 20-25 minutes of new
music (yes!), but the original composer is quite busy now and his
involvement will be limited. Charles say it is still the same style. Per
10th May, all the audio was finished for ToB. Maybe I'll e-mail Charles for
the casting list, too. He seems like quite a nice guy. Whew, it came out a
bit longer than intended. I'll be quiet now.
--
Glenn
Glenn Christer Bjørge
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>
> Doesn't the bloke who plays Cat in Catdog do the voice for Minsc?
>
You may be right, it's something familiar about that name. Cannot check it
now because I'm working offline, pay-per-minute is not fun. And broadband
still is 1 or 2 years away up here in the cold North. Sigh... You can use
the database I told Htn963 about, www.imdb.com ,and search for Baldur's Gate
I. I believe the voice actor is listed there. I don't remember his name at
the moment.
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Glenn
Glenn Christer Bjørge
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> Of course, just because she uses a supposedly Romanian accent as Jaheira
> doesn't mean that's her natural accent. She also provided the English
> dubbed voice for Ayeka in the anime series Tenchi Muyo!, where she sounds
> rather British.
>
True of course, but I'm pretty sure that someone mentioned that the accent
was her natural one. That's the part which confuses me.
> Actually, Jennifer Darling isn't credited with having done BG2. Was this
> another oversight, or did someone else play Jaheira?
>
David Gaider said explicitly that they got the same actors for the recurring
roles, with exception of Viconia. Probably an oversight since Michael Dorn
has been confirmed as an oversight.
> As a tangential aside, Billy West actually does quite a bit of voice work.
> The two easiest places to find him nowadays would probably be in Futurama
> (he plays Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Zapp Branigan, and Doctor Zoidberg,
> among others), and as the red M&M in numerous commercials. He used to
> work for Howard Stern, but I won't hold that against him.
>
Red M&M? Oh God...
> According to the IMDb listing for BG1, Jeff Bennett played Drizzt (as
> well as Xan and Quayle) in BG1. Did they switch actors?
The list at IMDb seems to be different from the one Interplay's Audio
Director supplied. That list which I spent two hours of a Friday afternoon
trying to find, but was unable to. One of them could be wrong, or it can be
different actors.
>
> >Jeff Benett(Darkwing Duck)=.Yoshimo
>
> Darkwing Duck was played by Jim Cummings, who provided the voice for
> Minsc. Jeff Bennett plays Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network.
Very well, I haven't even seen most of those things on TV, so I'll have to
rely on second source info. Sorry about the error. Too bad there isn't an
offical list somewhere. I have e-mailed the Audio Director of BGII and asked
if there is a complete list, but since today is Sunday, it may take some
time. I can post the list if I get it.
--
Glenn
OTL
>>The two easiest places to find him nowadays would probably be in Futurama
>>(he plays Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Zapp Branigan, and Doctor Zoidberg,
>>among others), and as the red M&M in numerous commercials. He used to
>>work for Howard Stern, but I won't hold that against him.
>
>Red M&M? Oh God...
Not a big red M&M fan, I see... :)
>>According to the IMDb listing for BG1, Jeff Bennett played Drizzt (as
>>well as Xan and Quayle) in BG1. Did they switch actors?
>
>The list at IMDb seems to be different from the one Interplay's Audio
>Director supplied. That list which I spent two hours of a Friday afternoon
>trying to find, but was unable to. One of them could be wrong, or it can be
>different actors.
Well, I suppose I'd trust the audio director more than IMDb.
>>>Jeff Benett(Darkwing Duck)=.Yoshimo
>>
>>Darkwing Duck was played by Jim Cummings, who provided the voice for
>>Minsc. Jeff Bennett plays Johnny Bravo on Cartoon Network.
>
>Very well, I haven't even seen most of those things on TV, so I'll have to
>rely on second source info. Sorry about the error. Too bad there isn't an
>offical list somewhere. I have e-mailed the Audio Director of BGII and
>asked if there is a complete list, but since today is Sunday, it may take
>some time. I can post the list if I get it.
Please do, and thanks in advance. (I have a bit of a penchant for matching
voice actors to roles...)
--
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"Remember, my son, it's better to light a candle than to curse the
darkness."
"But I *like* cursing the darkness!" -Hagar the Horrible
Glenn Christer Bjørge
> "Glenn Christer Bjørge" <gcb...@online.no> wrote in message
> news:iiaQ6.1759$lM3....@news1.oke.nextra.no...
> >"OTL" <bpe...@nospam.sprynet.com> skrev i melding
> >news:9er0vh$ijm$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net...
> >>As a tangential aside, Billy West actually does quite a bit of voice
work.
> >>The two easiest places to find him nowadays would probably be in
Futurama
> >>(he plays Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Zapp Branigan, and Doctor Zoidberg,
> >>among others), and as the red M&M in numerous commercials. He used to
> >>work for Howard Stern, but I won't hold that against him.
> >
> >Red M&M? Oh God...
>
> Not a big red M&M fan, I see... :)
>
It's just that, well, I have a problem imagining him as M&M. Nothing
personal, you see.
> >>According to the IMDb listing for BG1, Jeff Bennett played Drizzt (as
> >>well as Xan and Quayle) in BG1. Did they switch actors?
> >
> >The list at IMDb seems to be different from the one Interplay's Audio
> >Director supplied. That list which I spent two hours of a Friday
afternoon
> >trying to find, but was unable to. One of them could be wrong, or it can
be
> >different actors.
>
> Well, I suppose I'd trust the audio director more than IMDb.
>
Yes, but until I find the elusive list, you'll have to rely on my
fragmentary memory, which I don't these days :-) I have seen it on at least
three places in the past, but now...
> >Very well, I haven't even seen most of those things on TV, so I'll have
to
> >rely on second source info. Sorry about the error. Too bad there isn't an
> >offical list somewhere. I have e-mailed the Audio Director of BGII and
> >asked if there is a complete list, but since today is Sunday, it may take
> >some time. I can post the list if I get it.
>
> Please do, and thanks in advance. (I have a bit of a penchant for
matching
> voice actors to roles...)
>
He replied to me Monday evening. He didn't have the list, but he has
forwarded the question to their VO Casting Supervisor. A little flattery
always get you somewhere, it seems :-)
--
Glenn
Kurt
soundsets (BG1/BG2/IWD)?
Yes, I know, I can extract them myself, but I loath spending a couple of
hours sifting through .biff files. Yes, I'm lazy...
Glenn Christer Bjørge
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I'm not sure, but I believe www.gamebanshee.com and www.planetbg.com have at
least some of them. I extracted them myself because there weren't any places
where I could download them.
--
Glenn
Kurt
Thanks a lot. While www.gamebanshee.com wasn't very usefull (I didn't
search everywhere though), I did find at
www.planetbg.com/community/links/custom.shtml several links to sites who do
(or at least seem to) have those files.
For those interested, I also found some big .zip files at
www.fileplanet.com (RPG section, media).
Mark
I'm sorry, I may be dumb, but how do you do that?
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Kurt
news:4a82ecf09d...@ukgateway.net:
> In article <0QRQ6.13074$8Z5.9...@monolith.news.easynet.net>,
> Kurt <a@b.c> wrote:
>> BTW, does anyone here know of some place one can download all those
>> NPC soundsets (BG1/BG2/IWD)?
>> Yes, I know, I can extract them myself, but I loath spending a couple
>> of hours sifting through .biff files. Yes, I'm lazy...
>
> I'm sorry, I may be dumb, but how do you do that?
>
There is a very good HowTo at www.gamers-allegiance.com, check the FAQ.
You can download both tools needed (biftool and acmwavc) at www.teambg.com
(look under "developper's tools").
Glenn Christer Bjørge
"Mark" <Marko...@libertysurf.co.uk> skrev i melding
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> In article <0QRQ6.13074$8Z5.9...@monolith.news.easynet.net>,
> Kurt <a@b.c> wrote:
> > BTW, does anyone here know of some place one can download all those NPC
> > soundsets (BG1/BG2/IWD)?
> > Yes, I know, I can extract them myself, but I loath spending a couple of
> > hours sifting through .biff files. Yes, I'm lazy...
>
> I'm sorry, I may be dumb, but how do you do that?
>
You go to www.teambg.com and download BIF Tool. Follow the instructions and
extract from the appropriate BIF file. I believe it is CHASound.bif for the
NPCs who can join you. Some more NPCs are scattered through other files.
You'll have to rename these files. This at least allows you to listen to the
files in BG2. I have heard about people using ACM-WAVC to convert these
files into WAV-files, but I get runtime errors when I try to do this. You
might have more luck.
--
Glenn
Mitchell Chapman
"Luke Goaman-Dodson" <bel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
>
>
Phaedyme
Mitchell Chapman wrote:
>
> > Mind you, druids didn't have scimitars, leather armour, or stone
> > circle temples, so perhaps I'm expecting a bit too much of the design
> > team. :)
>
> yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
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bl...@table.blackguild.nos.pam.com
>> yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
> The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
Nigel Tufnel says they did.
Luke Goaman-Dodson
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> > Mind you, druids didn't have scimitars, leather armour, or stone
> > circle temples, so perhaps I'm expecting a bit too much of the
design
> > team. :)
>
> yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
What?
Luke Goaman-Dodson
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> Phaedyme <xe...@teleport.com> wrote:
>
> >> yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
>
> > The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
>
> Nigel Tufnel says they did.
Forgive me for my ignorance but who is Nigel Tufnel?
Speaker-to-Customers
"Luke Goaman-Dodson" wrote ...
> <bl...@table.blackguild.NOS.PAM.com> wrote ...
> > Phaedyme <xe...@teleport.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
> >
> > > The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
> >
> > Nigel Tufnel says they did.
>
> Forgive me for my ignorance but who is Nigel Tufnel?
Isn't he a famous cricket player?
Paul Speaker-to-Customers
Phaedyme
bl...@table.blackguild.NOS.PAM.com wrote:
>
> Phaedyme <xe...@teleport.com> wrote:
>
> >> yeh and Stone Hedge was an exaggerated prank... =]
>
> > The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
>
> Nigel Tufnel says they did.
Ack, I forgot! Damnit. Nigel knows his druid stuff, too. I suppose it
gives him something to do when washing drummer bits out of his hair.
Derville
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You're thinking of his brother, Phil ;-). Besides, everyone knows that
Stonehenge is nothing more than a training park for early Stone Age
Sunday league football teams.
Phil.
bl...@table.blackguild.nos.pam.com
>> > The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
>>
>> Nigel Tufnel says they did.
> Forgive me for my ignorance but who is Nigel Tufnel?
Guitar/vocals for Spinal Tap (played by Christopher
Guest.)
One of the highlights of the movie is a scene in
which they plan to go on stage surrounded by a
life-size replica of Stonehenge (hence the druids
references.) Tragically, someone mixed up ' and "
in designing the replica, so it ends up about two
feet high.
The really sad bit is that this seems to be based
on a true story involving Black Sabbath, though
in their case the replica was too *big*.
I was posting with tongue firmly in cheek :-)
PetHmll
>>>
>>> Nigel Tufnel says they did.
>
Yeah, it was built a long time ago, before the dawn of history.... ;-)
Pete
Tyberius Oxy Spam
"PetHmll" <pet...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >>> > The druids didn't build Stonehenge.
Actually they did, it used to be thought the celts moved into brtitain and
wiped out the original inhabitants who had originally erected stonehenge and
other structures, but with modern advances in archeology and specificly
genetic testing it has been established that the celtic arival in britain
had occured far earlier than first thought and they were indeed the first as
far as can be ascertained the first inhabitant of the british isles and
hence responsible for stonehenge.
Nadazgada
Is it the 18" ones or the 18' ones?
--
'Gnaag WILL fall...'
Nadazgada
Kraagenskull's loyal servant.
Luke Goaman-Dodson
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> Actually they did, it used to be thought the celts moved into
brtitain and
> wiped out the original inhabitants who had originally erected
stonehenge and
> other structures, but with modern advances in archeology and
specificly
> genetic testing it has been established that the celtic arival in
britain
> had occured far earlier than first thought and they were indeed the
first as
> far as can be ascertained the first inhabitant of the british isles
and
> hence responsible for stonehenge.
What a hilarious perversion of the modern theory. It is widely
accepted that the Celts *never* invaded Britain, but simply displaced
a previous culture by trade. They *never* had *anything* to do with
Stonehenge.
Of course you won't reply to this, because usenet fuckheads never do.
Barbarian X
"Luke Goaman-Dodson" <bel...@btinternet.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> What a hilarious perversion of the modern theory. It is widely
> accepted that the Celts *never* invaded Britain, but simply displaced
> a previous culture by trade. They *never* had *anything* to do with
> Stonehenge.
>
> Of course you won't reply to this, because usenet fuckheads never do.
I know nothing of this, but the poster (the fuck head?) stated "recent
discovered", which is usually something totally different from "widely
accepted", which tends to be knowledge that is older, and might be replaced
by what currently is "recently discovered".
/S
Bob Tokyo
"Barbarian X" <this...@validadress.com> wrote in message
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back, we was drinkin' in Earls ol' truck, an' Earl says to me, he says
"Bubba T", 'cause he knows I hate t' be called Bubba T an' Earl's like that,
anyway he says "Bubba T, let's get REAL drunk, go back in time, an' erect
Stonehenge!" Well, I laughed, 'cause Earl said "erect", but we jus' kep' on
drinkin', an' one thin' led to anther, an' that's how we ended up erectin'
Stonehenge!
Dean Jarratt
Brilliant Bubba, I'm here laughing my socks off...
Andrew Judson
are. Ok, so we know that Celts never invaded, but really. You've got a
problem.
Luke Goaman-Dodson <bel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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.>
Htn963
>Wow. The first five minutes in this forum and already I know who the idiots
>are. Ok, so we know that Celts never invaded, but really. You've got a
>problem.
People! people! where's the love? As far as I'm concerned, you're
_all_ idiots and fuckheads and I extend my loving welcome to you all!
BTW, there is still no conclusive evidence as to who actually built
Stonehenge.
Ht
Barbarian X
"Bob Tokyo" <rober...@japan.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> Heck, it were me and my buddy Earl that put up Stonehenge. A week or two
> back, we was drinkin' in Earls ol' truck, an' Earl says to me, he says
> "Bubba T", 'cause he knows I hate t' be called Bubba T an' Earl's like
that,
> anyway he says "Bubba T, let's get REAL drunk, go back in time, an' erect
> Stonehenge!" Well, I laughed, 'cause Earl said "erect", but we jus' kep'
on
> drinkin', an' one thin' led to anther, an' that's how we ended up erectin'
> Stonehenge!
You are stoned alright... *L*
/S
Barbarian X
"Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> "Andrew Judson" wrote:
>
> >Wow. The first five minutes in this forum and already I know who the
idiots
> >are. Ok, so we know that Celts never invaded, but really. You've got a
> >problem.
>
> People! people! where's the love? As far as I'm concerned, you're
> _all_ idiots and fuckheads and I extend my loving welcome to you all!
>
> BTW, there is still no conclusive evidence as to who actually built
> Stonehenge.
>
> Ht
Well That is about the only thing I do know about Stonehenge *L*
/S
Luke Goaman-Dodson
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> Wow. The first five minutes in this forum and already I know who the
idiots
> are. Ok, so we know that Celts never invaded, but really. You've got
a
> problem.
I certainly have.
You?
Luke Goaman-Dodson
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do.
See? See? I was right. They *never* reply, no matter *how* much you
flame them, they *never* reply. The problem is you can't beat them
round the head for ignoring you like in real life.