Durlag's tower - warders - How do you kill 'em?
DJ MNP
Herring) wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:02:44 -0400, "Jack" <Nos...@Nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Man what an area! I get past the battle horrors, basilisks(sp), mirror
>>imaged hasted dopple gangers, and now the warders are kicking my butt like
>>without any effort at all! Help! Can anyone tell me how they killed these things?
>
>The trick is to take them on one by one. I just did this battle with
>my all thieves party. Man, that was fun. I am playing only pure
>thieves, so I have no magic and no heavy-duty fighters. But I do have
>the cloak of Algernon. I managed to charm one of the greater
>dopplegangers (took five tries, and I had already tried the other two
>without succes) and I also had assistance from two phase spiders.
>Everyone had gathered near the entrance, and my PC went to speak with
>Love. Immediately after Love turned hostile, my PC swallowed a potion
>of invisibility and ran to the others. Then the PC started to approach
>the warders, with the spiders and the doppleganger as compagnons. The
>first one spotted was Avarice. "What the hell", I thought, "Let's give
>the cloak a try". And what do you know, Avarice got charmed. So I sent
>him towards Pride. As soon as Pride became visible, Avarice cast a
>Cloudkill. But that stupid warder was in it himself, and so he harmed
>himself, and so he turned hostile again. "Not good", I thought, and
>sent my PC, who was luckily stealthed, to the others again. After a
>while, the Cloudkill died out, and my PC went back to see what had
>happened. Both Pride and Avarice were still standing. He tried the
>Cloak again on Avarice, and again it worked! Avarice seems to have
>very low resistance to charming. So Avarice got to fight it out with
>Pride, which he survived, and then he was sent to the other two, which
>he also managed to kill. Now the greater doppleganger could take out a
>very weakened Avarice, and the rest of the party took out the
>doppleganger. Lot's of XP, that was, and minimal damage.
>
>-------------------------
>Scarlet Herring
>scarlet...@yahoo.com
That's an awesome use of magic charming and a very good strategy. i
bet that it was alot of fun to play. My strategy on BG is different,
but only because I enjoy the sheer brutality of hacking every thing
that moves into little bloody giblets. Throughout my last game I
relied on two melee fighters: PC and cleric and three to four missle
users (on the last game was Minsc, Ajantis, Imoen and sometimes
Dynaheir). This was my party from about Chp 2 until the end. Here
was my strategy for dealing with the warders. It is very
straightforward, offensive and not subtle.
Position your missle using characters near the barrels on the upper
right hand corner of the screen. Position one fighter next to Love.
Have him drink a potion of heroism and invulnerability. Caste haste
on everyone or use potions of speed. Equip your missle weapons with
powerful ammo - biting arrows, acid arrows, flame arrows, piercing
arrows. Summon skeltons all around the closest warder to use a
buffer. Make sure your magic user is well protected and back in the
corner behind your missle users. have them drink a potion of power,
or of heroism. Talk to Love and have your fighter whale on him.
Meanwhile, all hell will be breaking lose. The summoned skeltons and
monsters will be getting the crap kicked out of them. Concentrate
your missle fire on that warder who is surrounded. If you have
postioned yourself correctly, the Cloudkill spell will be going off,
but that warder will not be visible. Cast skeltons to the left of you
to buffer yourself against his attack when he rushes out from under
the cloud. As soon as you are able to target him, have one missle
user target him exclusively and use magic missle on him extensively.
After you have killed three of the four warders you can continue
around to lower left to take out the remaining warder. If you attack
in the configuration previously mentined, he won't be visible until
you move over there. I weakened him significantly by sending over a
fireball, potion of explosion, and oil of fiery burning into that
corner at the same time then when he ran out after sustaining masive
damge, had all four missle users use him as a pincushion. Although
this was a bloody battle, I sustained very little damage to my fighter
and none on any of the other characters. However, at the time I
attempted it, my characters were all at or around level 7. Anything
less and you might be asking to get stomped...
SG8
to run...
Using only my weakest chr., lvl 3 mage souped up w/ haste, boots of
grounding, ring of fire resist. and potion of fire resist., everyone else in
my party watched as the mage spoke to love and then killed all four...
There is a fire trap just right of one of the warders, every time the trap
is tripped a flamestrike nails the poor hapless fool for plenty of damage...
well w/ all of the warders following my little fleabag mage, he now 100%
fire resist., it was not long be for they all piled up in nice little suits
of armour for me to claim, it was also nice of love and pride to duke it out
for me...
If trying this make sure that you have already cleared out the workout room
after qsave, or monsters regenerate and they can cause alittle problem...
DJ MNP wrote in message <380a49fb...@news.mindspring.com>...
Scarlet Herring
wrote:
>There is a fire trap just right of one of the warders, every time the trap
>is tripped a flamestrike nails the poor hapless fool for plenty of damage...
Yes, I also thought of that strategy, and I would have tried it if
charming wouldn't have worked. Problem is, of course, the magic that
the warders use, and the fact that you have to make them follow you
for them to get in the blast of the fireball. But it is a lot of fun
to make original use of the surroundings to take a difficult enemy
out.
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Scarlet Herring
scarlet...@yahoo.com
SG8
fireball, but, a chr affect flame strike (autohit)...
Scarlet Herring wrote in message <380e1012...@news1.inter.nl.net>...
>On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:19:08 -0500, "SG8" <sgr...@mindspring.com>
>wrote:
>
>>There is a fire trap just right of one of the warders, every time the trap
>>is tripped a flamestrike nails the poor hapless fool for plenty of
damage...
>
Fourier
Jack wrote in message <4XpO3.12559$E_1.7...@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>...
>Man what an area! I get past the battle horrors, basilisks(sp), mirror
>imaged hasted dopple gangers, and now the warders are kicking
> my butt like without any effort at all! Help!
>Can anyone tell me how they killed these things?
Erm... I was level 7-8 ish when I did them and they were pants.
Use haste, and have one well 'ard fighter at the front with AC -7 or 8.
Oh, stand a wizard at the back with lots of magic missiles, and also have a
go with bows and slings from a distance.
Fourier
Jack
the story. As for me? Well I have to say it took me about 10 battles but I
finally beat them! I did animate dead, fireballs, tried and failed at
charming, but the thing that did it for me was giving Kalid a potion of hill
giant strenght and oil of speed. Thanks again for your help!!!
Scarlet Herring <scarlet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:380c3e7e...@news1.inter.nl.net...
> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:02:44 -0400, "Jack" <Nos...@Nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Man what an area! I get past the battle horrors, basilisks(sp), mirror
> >imaged hasted dopple gangers, and now the warders are kicking my butt
like
> >without any effort at all! Help! Can anyone tell me how they killed
these things?
>