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Daniel Duarte

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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How exactally do you go about killing this guy? I killed everyone at the
shadow alter so thats done. He rips apart everyone I send at him and knocks
me back like a doll. How am I supossed to kill him?

Nex

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Please mind those spoilers in the subject line :(


Daniel Duarte <greenb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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AndrwHow

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Leave and come back later is what I was told. You have already finished the
quest.

Mark Reindl

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You don't.

Daniel Duarte

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Ahhh.. ok. I thought I had to kill that big thing.

Daniel
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WiCkdULL

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Oct 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/1/00
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no.. you get a stone that makes it so he cant see you... i attacked him for
shits and giggles... he did a mad wing buffet move on me... sent my guys
sliding across the room... never even touched him.. heh
Serafin Nunez

"Be born then, gasp wind, screech at the surgeon's slap, seek manhood, taste a
little of godhood, feel pain, give birth, stuggle a little while, succumb.
(Dying, leave quietly by the rear exit, please.)"-A Canticle for Leibowitz

Daniel Duarte

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Oct 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/1/00
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Are you refering to the shadow stone I found? If so how do you use it. If
not, what stone?

Daniel
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Rusted_Corpse

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:35:48 GMT, "Daniel Duarte"
<greenb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
You can kill the Shadow Dragon. I had to do it my concinecs wouldnt
let me do otherwise, after all it killed how many others.... :-)
Seriously though kill it you get some good gems, cash, AND best of all
its Scales. The best tactic I can recommend is spread out around him
and have the guy he targets run around and stall. I have killed him
without losing anyone..

-Arcimedies

Pathos

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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In article <20001001032146...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,

wick...@aol.comNOSPAM (WiCkdULL) wrote:
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> no.. you get a stone that makes it so he cant see you... i attacked
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> shits and giggles... he did a mad wing buffet move on me... sent my
guys
> sliding across the room... never even touched him.. heh
> Serafin Nunez


Hehe, wasn't that a riot? I actually survived two wing buffets, and got
him to barely injured before the characters started dropping. It is
said you CAN kill him with the right character lineup. hehe, like to
see that.

My roommate is having the same problem with the other dragon too.

Patrick


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Scott

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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Mark Reindl wrote:
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> You don't.
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> Daniel Duarte wrote:
>

> > How exactally do you go about killing this guy? I killed everyone at the
> > shadow alter so thats done. He rips apart everyone I send at him and knocks
> > me back like a doll. How am I supossed to kill him?

[Spoiler space]

Actually, you don't *have* to kill it - but it sure is fun to do so
anyway. :)

The way I did it was to have Yoshimo lay his greater traps around the
dragon, go back to the party, rest, and repeat. When I got about 20
traps on the floor in front of the dragon, I had Minsc shoot the dragon
and retreat - each time pulling the dragon through the trap field. He
was dead faster than s*it through a goose...

Kinda cheesy, but it worked.

Rusted_Corpse

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Oct 3, 2000, 12:17:19 AM10/3/00
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:58:22 GMT, Pathos <pat...@dragonsworn.com>
wrote:


KILL the dragon the gems and scales and scroll are worth it. (if I can
find the girdle of frost giant that is.)

frakas...@my-deja.com

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I did it immediately after killing the shadow lord. Two lower
resistence spells, a harm and a prismatic sphere, in that order. I got
lucky but it was worth it, 45k xp, a fist full of gems, some dragon
scales and a recipe for whompin' stick. Not bad. I've learned a new
respect for lower resistence.

-dobbs

In article <39d8c73f...@news.gibralter.net>,


Rusted...@hotmail.com (Rusted_Corpse) wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:35:48 GMT, "Daniel Duarte"
> <greenb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> You can kill the Shadow Dragon. I had to do it my concinecs wouldnt
> let me do otherwise, after all it killed how many others.... :-)
> Seriously though kill it you get some good gems, cash, AND best of all
> its Scales. The best tactic I can recommend is spread out around him
> and have the guy he targets run around and stall. I have killed him
> without losing anyone..
>
> -Arcimedies
>

> >How exactally do you go about killing this guy? I killed everyone at
the
> >shadow alter so thats done. He rips apart everyone I send at him and
knocks
> >me back like a doll. How am I supossed to kill him?
> >
> >
>
>

frakas...@my-deja.com

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In article <8rbvuc$55g$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

frakas...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I did it immediately after killing the shadow lord. Two lower
> resistence spells, a harm and a prismatic sphere, in that order. I
got
> lucky but it was worth it, 45k xp, a fist full of gems, some dragon
> scales and a recipe for whompin' stick. Not bad. I've learned a new
> respect for lower resistence.
>
> -dobbs

That should read "chromatic orb", not "prismatic sphere."

Talbain

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Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
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My suggestion is to do what I did. Leave him for now and go on the Windspear
quest. On that quest you'll net several very powerful weapons vs dragons,
including a dragon sword, a dragon helm and a dragon shield. Then go back and
kill the shadow dragon. It makes him quite a bit easier. Also, to actually
defeat him, I had my character with these weapons get improved invisibility
cast on him, circle around behind the dragon while the others attack from the
front. The dragon fell after only 3 or 4 tries...

Ron

peter cook

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And if that doesn't help use the "Pierce Magic" spell. I used it on the
Black Dragon in Chapter 7 and it worked great for getting his defenses down.

Now that I'm stuck in the palace I think I'm going to go get that Shadow
Dragon.

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Talbain

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Sure you did. He's good for 45000 xp or something like that

Mark Reindl wrote:

> You don't.
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CCC

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>Daniel Duarte wrote:
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>> How exactally do you go about killing this guy? I killed everyone at the
>> shadow alter so thats done. He rips apart everyone I send at him and knocks
>> me back like a doll. How am I supossed to kill him?
>

If you are only interested in dead dragon and xp rather than an
interesting fight you can do it easily with cloudkill. I had my mage
fire two charges from a wand of cloukill at the edge of the 'fog of
war' where the dragon was. A long series of hit reports followed but
eventually it died without any of the party seeing it alive or getting
a scratch. (I saw the tactic posted elsewhere about another dragon, so
it's not my original idea).

Not much fun, but it allows you to finish the quest if you're getting
frustrated.

Chris C.
Disclaimer: My posts strive to be friendly, helpful, accurate and
wise - however, thanks to the joys of advancing senility, they are
sometimes a load of waffly, erroneous old bollocks. ;-)

Doug McLaren

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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In article <39E09EAE...@prodigy.net>,
Talbain <tal...@prodigy.net> wrote:

| My suggestion is to do what I did. Leave him for now and go on the Windspear
| quest. On that quest you'll net several very powerful weapons vs dragons,
| including a dragon sword, a dragon helm and a dragon shield.

Dragon helm? I must have missed that one.

I got the dragon sword and dragon shield, but no helm. Can you
remember exactly where it was?

--
Doug McLaren, dou...@frenzy.com
"Bother," said Pooh as he pushed Christopher Robin over the cliff.

Wong Kam Chuen

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Doug McLaren <dou...@frenzy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <39E09EAE...@prodigy.net>,
> Talbain <tal...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> | My suggestion is to do what I did. Leave him for now and go on the
Windspear
> | quest. On that quest you'll net several very powerful weapons vs
dragons,
> | including a dragon sword, a dragon helm and a dragon shield.
>
> Dragon helm? I must have missed that one.

I don't have Dragon helm, and I've never been to Windspear Hills... yet I
kicked the Sahdow Dragon's butt and killed it without reloading.

My party:
Christopher - Monk 11
Keldorn, Minsc, Jaheira, Aerie and Jan. All are around level 11 - 13.

I decided to attack before initiating a conversation. I moved Christopher,
Keldorn, Minsc and Jaheira to
surround the Shadow Dragon. I equipped them with best damaging abilities I
can afford.

Christopher - Flametongue + 1, +4 vs Undead, and Shadow Dragon should be
undead. Even if it's not, Flametongue is still +2 vs Evil.
Keldorn - The Daystar.
Minsc - Flail of Ages + 3, with 3 flail heads.
Jaheira - Scimitar + 2, +1 attack per round.

Christopher had AC of -3, while other three had -7.

Then I had Aerie cast Protection from Evil 10' radius, Bless and Chant. Then
I moved Aerie and Jan away a bit, to avoid Shadow Dragon attacking them.

Next I had Aeire cast Lower Resistance, and Jan cast Breach. Just before
they finish their spell casting (just before the orbs move), the four
blockers start the attack.

The two spells did what I want - removed Shadow Dragon's protection against
spells, and Aerie and Jan pumped it with all fast spells they had, to stop
Shadow Dragon casting any other spells.

Shadow Dragon did make some attacks - Dragon Fear. The four blockers are
pushed away from it, and some are feared. But that doesn't matter as Dragon
Fear only cause lowered combat abilities, not losing control of a character.
So I had the four blockers moved forward again to attack, and drank potions
as needed.

After a total of 2 Dragon Fear, the Shadow Dragon is down - Jan's Acid arrow
got it. And the four blockers only consumed 2 potions. Shadow Dragon never
made a successful hit on them - the damage is from the Dragon Fear's force
wave.

Hey, that's the very first time my party fight a boss toe-to-toe... they
used to rely on Fire Elementals.
And the same party finished the Unseeing Eye quest when they were about
level 10.


-Armstrong.

Doc

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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Dragon Helm is in the well on the map before Firkraggs lair.

Doc

"Doug McLaren" <dou...@frenzy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <39E09EAE...@prodigy.net>,
> Talbain <tal...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> | My suggestion is to do what I did. Leave him for now and go on the
Windspear
> | quest. On that quest you'll net several very powerful weapons vs
dragons,
> | including a dragon sword, a dragon helm and a dragon shield.
>
> Dragon helm? I must have missed that one.
>

IHCOYC XPICTOC

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Doug McLaren (dou...@frenzy.com) wrote:

: Dragon helm? I must have missed that one.

: I got the dragon sword and dragon shield, but no helm. Can you
: remember exactly where it was?

<spoiler space>

To get the dragon helm, you have to fiddle with the well dingus that is
outside the place that leads to the golems and to the jail. It isn't
really obvious. I just noticed that passing the cursor over the well
brought up the fiddle-with circle.

Perhaps, in BG3, they will explain how it came to pass that the dragon
helm got down the well in the first case.

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IHCOYC XPICTOC <gust...@iglou.com> wrote in message
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> Doug McLaren (dou...@frenzy.com) wrote:
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> : Dragon helm? I must have missed that one.
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> : I got the dragon sword and dragon shield, but no helm. Can you
> : remember exactly where it was?
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> To get the dragon helm, you have to fiddle with the well dingus that is
> outside the place that leads to the golems and to the jail. It isn't
> really obvious. I just noticed that passing the cursor over the well
> brought up the fiddle-with circle.
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> Perhaps, in BG3, they will explain how it came to pass that the dragon
> helm got down the well in the first case.
>
> --

Well, it was talked about in the Troll's cookbook. sort of...

--
Zot.
= Tal'n The Lazarus
"It's all right, it's just a horse in the bathroom."
- Professor Urban Chronotis, the Regius Professor of Chronology
"Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est"
- Francis Bacon
"I cannot be caged. I cannot be controlled. Understand this as you die, ever
pathetic, ever fools!"
-Irenicus

Tal'n Lazarus

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Matt Holmes <wu...@wubbo.com> wrote in message
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> In this thread are some stories of ferocious battles with the Shadow
> Dragon - very impressive. However, in this game more than most others,
> defeating a foe SMARTLY often gets you more experience, and the foe is
> just as dead (or otherwise gotten-around).
>
> I notice in the Shadow Dragon cavern, there are what appear to be huge
> mirrors up near the ceiling around the entire room, pointing toward the
> center. I remember using reflected light from the stained-glass windows
> at the entrance to the temple to kill the shadow creatures -- doesn't it
> stand to reason that I could somehow use those huge mirrors to reflect a
> bunch of light into the center of the Shadow Dragon cavern, and toast
> his ass? Has anyone heard of and/or tried this? I couldn't see a way
> to do anything with the mirrors: no switches, etc. They seemed to be
> pointed down at the wrong angle -- you can see their dim reflected light
> on the floor around the center of the cavern, but not IN the center. If
> they were all aligned toward the center, though.....
>
> - m.h.
>
>

I was wondering about this too, however I wasn't able to find anything that
would be able to move those mirrors. Perhaps it was something they didn't
have time to implement?

Matt Holmes

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Oct 15, 2000, 10:21:23 PM10/15/00
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In this thread are some stories of ferocious battles with the Shadow
Dragon - very impressive. However, in this game more than most others,
defeating a foe SMARTLY often gets you more experience, and the foe is
just as dead (or otherwise gotten-around).

I notice in the Shadow Dragon cavern, there are what appear to be huge
mirrors up near the ceiling around the entire room, pointing toward the
center. I remember using reflected light from the stained-glass windows
at the entrance to the temple to kill the shadow creatures -- doesn't it
stand to reason that I could somehow use those huge mirrors to reflect a
bunch of light into the center of the Shadow Dragon cavern, and toast
his ass? Has anyone heard of and/or tried this? I couldn't see a way
to do anything with the mirrors: no switches, etc. They seemed to be
pointed down at the wrong angle -- you can see their dim reflected light
on the floor around the center of the cavern, but not IN the center. If
they were all aligned toward the center, though.....

- m.h.


Henry

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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Hmmm, tried casting a sunray?


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