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Joss Yousaf

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Dec 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/25/99
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On my way West out of Nashkel, I came across a mountainous area, and the
only way through was inhabited by a Xvart village. I managed to kill lots of
them (25+), but more arrived, and I'd run out of healing spells, so I
decided to head across to the area North of the Gnoll stronghold.

My party is still too weak to take on the major enemies here - one time a
bandit called Neville wiped me out before I could get a shot off, and then
there's that nasty bridge crossing with the Ogre Berserker and the Hobgoblin
Elite with the poisonous arrows...

I keep dying!

Still, at least Imoen & Khalid are also now Level 2 characters!

Sorry to moan, but am I missing something?

Joss

S Eugene Baker

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Dec 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/25/99
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Been a while but I think my characters were at least 3 lvl with maybe
Imoen being 4 th lvl. At this lvl the gnoll stonghold wasn't
difficult. Actually the mines were more diffciult at 1 and 2 nd lvl.
Use chokepoints at the gnoll stonghold.

Scarlet Herring

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Dec 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/26/99
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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 16:49:38 -0000, "Joss Yousaf"
<Joss....@btinternet.com> wrote:

>My party is still too weak to take on the major enemies here - one time a
>bandit called Neville wiped me out before I could get a shot off, and then
>there's that nasty bridge crossing with the Ogre Berserker and the Hobgoblin
>Elite with the poisonous arrows...

Then take the other bridge! There is a second one in the very south of
this area.

>Still, at least Imoen & Khalid are also now Level 2 characters!

It's a start.

>Sorry to moan, but am I missing something?

No, this part of the game is a bit tough, but the gnolls are
surprisingly easy to beat. O yes, just a small tip: don't pay the
Ogrillions on the bridge towards the Stronghold a dime - one of them
carries a very good item.


quivalen

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Dec 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/26/99
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> On my way West out of Nashkel, I came across a mountainous area, and the
> only way through was inhabited by a Xvart village. I managed to kill lots of
> them (25+), but more arrived, and I'd run out of healing spells, so I
> decided to head across to the area North of the Gnoll stronghold.

Have you finished the Nashkel Mines yet? And as for the xvarts....You could
pick them off with ranged weapons first, or area of effect spells. I suppose
Burning Hands would be the only one available to you then, but it might
kill/weaken off a few xvarts. You could also place your party in between the
huts or something so they can't surround you completely. And when the cave bear
arrives, DO NOT engage it in melee. Use ranged weapons.

>
>
> My party is still too weak to take on the major enemies here - one time a
> bandit called Neville wiped me out before I could get a shot off, and then
> there's that nasty bridge crossing with the Ogre Berserker and the Hobgoblin
> Elite with the poisonous arrows...
>

You already have the answer. Your party is far too weak. Go finish whatever
quests you can. You'll get far more XP finishing quests than you will killing
monsters at this point. Most quests aren't very difficult, most simply require a
bit of searching and stuff.
Once you level up, you can try again. Stinking cloud works well against the
hobgobs and ogres on the bridge. Or you could use an Oil of Fiery Burning if
you've found one.
And scout ahead with Imoen. It really helps.

Lance

Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum. - I think that I think, therefore I think
that I am.


quivalen

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Dec 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/26/99
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> Been a while but I think my characters were at least 3 lvl with maybe
> Imoen being 4 th lvl. At this lvl the gnoll stonghold wasn't
> difficult. Actually the mines were more diffciult at 1 and 2 nd lvl.
> Use chokepoints at the gnoll stonghold.
>

Gnolls are really very wimpy. Just hit and run with ranged weapons, and advance a
bit at a time so that you don't get half the garrison chasing you. Try not to let
them get close to you since they only use halberds or whatever.

Rens H. Veldhuis

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Dec 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/26/99
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Another bridge leading to the gnoll fortress from the south? Are you sure?

Rens.


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Grey

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Dec 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/26/99
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I've done this quest several times with level 1 and 2 characters. The keys
are to use entangle and ranged weapons at all times and rest a LOT.
Respawning does happen here, but it is not as bad as other areas, so it is
possible to rest fairly frequently. And to reemphasize, use whatever spell
you can to keep the enemy at bay (like I said, entangle is great for this if
you don't have stinking cloud) and pick them off from a distance. You're too
weak to melee. And when actually in the stronghold, use the chokepoints, as
suggested by a previous post. Put your best fighter up front with the lowest
AC you can give him so that he blocks the gnolls from getting to the rest of
your party and, once again, pick them off with ranged weapons. I'm rooting
for you!

Joss Yousaf <Joss....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On my way West out of Nashkel, I came across a mountainous area, and the
> only way through was inhabited by a Xvart village. I managed to kill lots
of
> them (25+), but more arrived, and I'd run out of healing spells, so I
> decided to head across to the area North of the Gnoll stronghold.
>

> My party is still too weak to take on the major enemies here - one time a
> bandit called Neville wiped me out before I could get a shot off, and then
> there's that nasty bridge crossing with the Ogre Berserker and the
Hobgoblin
> Elite with the poisonous arrows...
>

> I keep dying!


>
> Still, at least Imoen & Khalid are also now Level 2 characters!
>

> Sorry to moan, but am I missing something?
>

> Joss
>
>

Andrew Grigor

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Dec 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/27/99
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I think you should go up a few levels before you do what you're doing. Try the
mines out for starters.

Ebony Void

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Dec 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/27/99
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Try exploring other areas and bringing your party up a level or two before
returning to the bridge board.

abber.i

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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To do any good here you need to spend some time getting level ups to about 3
,4 would be better.

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bncache

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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If i remember correctly U dont have to cross any of the bridges at all.
Just turn south and by the river and exit from the south of the map without
crossing the bridge. Might be wrong, been a while.

BNCACHE

bncache

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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What i did was to stealt Imoen, manuver her so only one gnoll was visible, let
imoen fire an arrow at the gnoll and lead him into the ambush.

BNCACHE

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