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Slasher Arcana

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Sep 24, 2001, 9:41:13 PM9/24/01
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I've been thinking of this weapon. A +5 warhammer with pretty cool
insta-kill abilities and 25 STR, but you lose 2 STR boosting items. I
just don't think it's worth the tradeoff. Better to have the girdle
and gauntlet and still use the hammer of thunderbolts if you wanted
to. But I noticed some people made that choice. Is it really worth it?

KC Wong

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Sep 24, 2001, 11:59:13 PM9/24/01
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Yes. It's the 25 STR that's the most powerful. Since the weapon is +5, so
it's ideal for dual-wield as off-hand weapon (eliminate penalty and still
some plus left), and the strength bonus gives the main-hand weapon much much
more damage potential.

KC


Bahamut

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Sep 25, 2001, 2:11:20 AM9/25/01
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depends, it's really good if dual wielded with something else, say
celestrial fury, but i agree that you may need the items to raises people's
strength. dont go for it if noone has any prof. in hammers

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Slasher Arcana

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Sep 25, 2001, 6:01:07 AM9/25/01
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"KC Wong" <kcwong...@pacific.net.hk> wrote in message news:<9oovbn$4vu$1...@hfc.pacific.net.hk>...

I guess, but in my case, my monk can't use it, and Minsc can't use
hammers, that meant Viconia, but she's not frontline, so I kept the
strength items...

Barbarian X

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Sep 25, 2001, 6:47:36 AM9/25/01
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"Slasher Arcana" <arca...@catcha.com> skrev i meddelandet
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korgan seems designed to use it... ;)

/S


Mikko P Vuorinen

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Sep 25, 2001, 7:43:02 AM9/25/01
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In <slZr7.1772$Ad3....@nntpserver.swip.net> "Barbarian X" <n...@valid.adress.com> writes:

>> I guess, but in my case, my monk can't use it, and Minsc can't use
>> hammers, that meant Viconia, but she's not frontline, so I kept the
>> strength items...

>korgan seems designed to use it... ;)

If you equip Mazzy with the Crom Faeyr she'll be the one of the best tanks
in the game.

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Colin E

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Sep 25, 2001, 4:40:40 PM9/25/01
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"Slasher Arcana" <arca...@catcha.com> wrote in message
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Speaking as a Dwarf - that there hammer's a *lovely* piece o'
metalwork. I wouldn't be parted from it.

If you haven't got someone to wield it though - stick with the
components.
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Jesse Yeager

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Sep 26, 2001, 5:35:03 AM9/26/01
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The 25 strength is well worth the loss of a 21 strength item and an 18/00
strength item usable only by warriors and priests. Plus, if you are trying
to get a team of immense strength together... (possible item spoilers
follow)

Girdle of Hill Giant Strength (19 STR, usable by anyone)
Girdle of Stone Giant Strength (20 STR, usable by anyone)
Girdle of Fire Giant Strength (22 STR, usable by anyone)
Angurvadal (longsword+5) (22 STR, usable by warriors and rogues)
Crom Faeyr (warhammer+5) (25 STR, usable by warriors and clerics)

And there must be at least one character (if you have a full party) that you
don't NEED to have superhuman strength. So I say go for Crom Faeyr

Slasher Arcana

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Sep 26, 2001, 11:30:43 PM9/26/01
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"Jesse Yeager" <reje...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<qyfs7.33640$Dz6.7...@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com>...

Actually in my case, Crom Faeyr would be a bad move. I am a monk, with
Minsc, Viconia, Jaheira, Imoen and Aerie. Right now I have the girdles
of Frost, Fire, Stone and Hill giant strength, and the Gauntlets of
Ogre Power. The fact that my monk is 21 STR meant that all my
characters have 19 STR and above (Viconia wears the Gauntlets, plus
her symbol to get 19 STR).

The high STRs really come in handy, especially when lugging loot, and
with Jaheira's Sling of Seeking, +5 bullets and 22 STR, we're talking
major range damage, not to mention 2 killing machines upfront
(whirlwinded and hardened monk and ranger!) and 3 more ranged weapons
at back, or switched to melee when necessary.

Heck I even sold off the Hammer of Thunderbolts... I don't have the +5
Angurvadal yet (I assume from Cespanar), but that's not an issue.

Chris Newton

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Sep 28, 2001, 12:42:07 PM9/28/01
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Slasher Arcana <arca...@catcha.com> wrote...

> Actually in my case, Crom Faeyr would be a bad move. I am
> a monk, with Minsc, Viconia, Jaheira, Imoen and Aerie. Right
> now I have the girdles of Frost, Fire, Stone and Hill giant
> strength, and the Gauntlets of Ogre Power. The fact that my
> monk is 21 STR meant that all my characters have 19 STR and
> above (Viconia wears the Gauntlets, plus her symbol to get
> 19 STR).

I conclude from this that you're well into ToB. Given that Cromwell
makes Crom Faeyr, how would you get it anyway? I thought Cespenar only
put together his own items, not any from BG2 as well...

As for whether Crom Faeyr is worth it, yes, it is, for many parties. For
example, partway through ToB I've got a cleric/mage in my party as a
full-on support fighter. With an AC of -9 before any magical help (and
without limiting her casting abilities), she's harder to hit than some
of my front-liners. With Crom Faeyr, she has a comparable THAC0 as well.
Her magical defences make up for the low HP, so the only real drawback
is that she only gets two attacks per round. Oh, and she can do much
more damage using magic, which is, after all, her speciality(ies). :-)

Cheers,
Chris


Manu

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Sep 30, 2001, 11:59:18 AM9/30/01
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Export the caracter holding the two items you don't want to lose and them
import him back again after Crom Faeyr has been assembled. That way you'll
have the weapon and keep the two items.

KC Wong

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Oct 3, 2001, 12:39:00 AM10/3/01
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> > I've been thinking of this weapon. A +5 warhammer with pretty cool
> > insta-kill abilities and 25 STR, but you lose 2 STR boosting items. I
> > just don't think it's worth the tradeoff. Better to have the girdle
> > and gauntlet and still use the hammer of thunderbolts if you wanted
> > to. But I noticed some people made that choice. Is it really worth it?
>
> Export the caracter holding the two items you don't want to lose and them
> import him back again after Crom Faeyr has been assembled. That way you'll
> have the weapon and keep the two items.
>

Why the trouble then? Why don't just CLUA it in?


KC

Mike Hall

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Oct 3, 2001, 8:13:56 PM10/3/01
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Slasher Arcana wrote:

Yes. Always.
It's definitely worth losing one fairly crappy strength item (18/00?
Half-orcs can beat that on creation!) for something which will kill
trolls and most golems in one hit (no save) and gives a huge 25 strength.
One isn't losing 2 str items, because CF is the ultimate strength
item.


Mike Hall


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