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Re: A Right To Discriminate Against Law Abiding Americans?
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Max Boot
Feb 19, 2024, 3:02:11 PM2/19/24
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On 2/19/2024 11:32 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> David Hartung <ju...@nogood.com> wrote in news:PA-
> dnbWaTppOC074n...@giganews.com:
>
>> On 2/18/24 21:08, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Tennessee Republicans pass bill allowing
>>> marriage discrimination toward same-sex
>>> couples
>>> Feb 16 2024
>>>
>>> The push to allow people to discriminate
>>> is strong in Tennessee, where the state
>>> senate approved a bill on Monday that
>>> could potentially allow individuals to
>>> refuse to officiate marriages based on
>>> their personal beliefs, including
>>> objections to LGBTQ+ weddings. The
>>> legislation, Senate Bill 596, declares
>>> that "a person shall not be required to
>>> solemnize a marriage if the person has
>>> an objection to solemnizing the marriage
>>> based on the person’s conscience or
>>> religious beliefs."
>>>
>>> The bill, championed by Republican state
>>> Rep. Monty Fritts, claims to "protect the
>>> rights of the officiate or officiates of
>>> wedding ceremonies," though Tennessee law
>>> already permits individuals to decline to
>>> officiate at marriages if they choose.
>>>
>>> According to Gallup, last year saw the
>>> most robust support of Americans for
>>> same-sex marriage, with 71 percent of
>>> those questioned responding in favor of it.
>>>
>>> https://www.advocate.com/politics/tennessee-republicans-marriage-
>>> discrimination#toggle-gdpr
>>
>> You object to the first amendment?
>>
>
> You don't have a 1st amendment right
> not to do the job you applied for.
>
>
> If you cannot check out books to
> muslims don't be a librarian.
>
> If you cannot fill prescriptions
> for birth control don't apply for a
> job at the pharmacy window.
>
> If you don't believe in interracial
> marriages don't become a JP.
>
> If you cannot issue marriage
> licences to gay couples don't become
> a County Clerk.
Unfortunately, I think the courts have in some cases doesn't have to do all
parts of his job if doing so violates his conscience. That is bad and wrong. You
have a right to work and earn a living, but you do not have a right to any
*particular* job. A person should be forced to do all tasks of a job that he
willingly applies for and takes. If you don't want to issue marriage licenses to
people wishing to enter a marriage of which you disapprove, then you should not
become a county clerk. If you do become a county clerk, then you should be
compelled to do *all* parts of the county clerk's job. This is really very
straightforward and does not involve the abridgment of anyone's rights.
> David Hartung <ju...@nogood.com> wrote in news:PA-
> dnbWaTppOC074n...@giganews.com:
>
>> On 2/18/24 21:08, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Tennessee Republicans pass bill allowing
>>> marriage discrimination toward same-sex
>>> couples
>>> Feb 16 2024
>>>
>>> The push to allow people to discriminate
>>> is strong in Tennessee, where the state
>>> senate approved a bill on Monday that
>>> could potentially allow individuals to
>>> refuse to officiate marriages based on
>>> their personal beliefs, including
>>> objections to LGBTQ+ weddings. The
>>> legislation, Senate Bill 596, declares
>>> that "a person shall not be required to
>>> solemnize a marriage if the person has
>>> an objection to solemnizing the marriage
>>> based on the person’s conscience or
>>> religious beliefs."
>>>
>>> The bill, championed by Republican state
>>> Rep. Monty Fritts, claims to "protect the
>>> rights of the officiate or officiates of
>>> wedding ceremonies," though Tennessee law
>>> already permits individuals to decline to
>>> officiate at marriages if they choose.
>>>
>>> According to Gallup, last year saw the
>>> most robust support of Americans for
>>> same-sex marriage, with 71 percent of
>>> those questioned responding in favor of it.
>>>
>>> https://www.advocate.com/politics/tennessee-republicans-marriage-
>>> discrimination#toggle-gdpr
>>
>> You object to the first amendment?
>>
>
> You don't have a 1st amendment right
> not to do the job you applied for.
>
>
> If you cannot check out books to
> muslims don't be a librarian.
>
> If you cannot fill prescriptions
> for birth control don't apply for a
> job at the pharmacy window.
>
> If you don't believe in interracial
> marriages don't become a JP.
>
> If you cannot issue marriage
> licences to gay couples don't become
> a County Clerk.
Unfortunately, I think the courts have in some cases doesn't have to do all
parts of his job if doing so violates his conscience. That is bad and wrong. You
have a right to work and earn a living, but you do not have a right to any
*particular* job. A person should be forced to do all tasks of a job that he
willingly applies for and takes. If you don't want to issue marriage licenses to
people wishing to enter a marriage of which you disapprove, then you should not
become a county clerk. If you do become a county clerk, then you should be
compelled to do *all* parts of the county clerk's job. This is really very
straightforward and does not involve the abridgment of anyone's rights.
Max Boot
Feb 19, 2024, 3:09:53 PM2/19/24
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some cases said a person doesn't have to do all parts of his job.
Josh Rosenbluth
Feb 19, 2024, 3:31:26 PM2/19/24
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in some cases.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/22-174_k536.pdf
Josh Rosenbluth
Feb 19, 2024, 3:34:18 PM2/19/24
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marriages. That could be required by other laws such as the one proposed
in Tennessee.
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