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Adam Lanza the Kindergarten class killer was an Aspie with comorbidity of Personality Disorder
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Greegor
Dec 15, 2012, 7:57:24 PM12/15/12
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I "bet" with friends very early on that he was an Aspie.
When some reports stated he was "a smart kid, a gamer"
I just said "Yup!" and grinned. Then one of my friends found this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0
A Gunman, Recalled as Intelligent and Shy, Who Left Few Footprints in
Life
By DAVID M. HALBFINGER Published: December 14, 2012
He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class,
and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called
upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words
out, as if having to speak up were painful.
Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in
Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the
pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things
that his classmates recalled about him.
He did all he could to avoid attention, it seemed.
Until Friday.
The authorities said Mr. Lanza, 20, wearing combat gear, carried out
one of the deadliest school shootings in the nation’s history. He
killed 20 children and six adults at the elementary school, they said.
He then apparently turned his gun on himself. Earlier, the police
said, he also killed his mother.
In his brief adulthood, Mr. Lanza had left few footprints, electronic
or otherwise. He apparently had no Facebook page, unlike his older
brother, Ryan, a Hoboken, N.J., resident who for several hours on
Friday was misidentified in news reports as the perpetrator of the
massacre.
Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of
the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who
graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.
Matt Baier, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, and other
high school classmates recalled how deeply uncomfortable Mr. Lanza was
in social situations.
Several said in separate interviews that it was their understanding
that he had a developmental disorder. They said they had been told
that the disorder was Asperger’s syndrome, which is considered a high
functioning form of autism.
“It’s not like people picked on him for it,” Mr. Baier said. “From
what I saw, people just let him be, and that was that.”
Law enforcement officials said Friday that they were closely examining
whether Mr. Lanza had such a disorder.
One former classmate who said he was familiar with the disorder
described Mr. Lanza as having a “very flat affect,” adding, “If you
looked at him, you couldn’t see any emotions going through his head.”
Others said Mr. Lanza’s evident discomfort prompted giggles from those
who did not understand him.
“You could tell that he felt so uncomfortable about being put on the
spot,” said Olivia DeVivo, also now at the University of Connecticut.
“I think that maybe he wasn’t given the right kind of attention or
help. I think he went so unnoticed that people didn’t even stop to
realize that maybe there’s actually something else going on here —
that maybe he needs to be talking or getting some kind of mental help.
In high school, no one really takes the time to look and think, ‘Why
is he acting this way?’ ”
Ms. DeVivo remembered Mr. Lanza from sixth grade and earlier, talking
about aliens and “blowing things up,” but she chalked this up to the
typical talk of prepubescent boys.
Still, after hearing of the news on Friday, Ms. DeVivo reconnected
with friends from Newtown, and the consensus was stark. “They weren’t
surprised,” she said. “They said he always seemed like he was someone
who was capable of that because he just didn’t really connect with our
high school, and didn’t really connect with our town.”
She added: “I never saw him with anyone. I can’t even think of one
person that was associated with him.”
Mr. Baier, who sat next to Mr. Lanza in the back of their sophomore-
year honors math class, said Mr. Lanza barely said a word all year,
but earned high marks. He said he knew this only from peeking at Mr.
Lanza’s scores when their teacher handed back their tests.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0
(Page 2 of 2)
Out of view of his classmates, Mr. Lanza’s adolescence seemed to have
been turbulent. In 2006, his older brother graduated high school and
went to Quinnipiac University in Connecticut, leaving him alone with
their parents — whose marriage was apparently coming apart.
In 2008, they divorced after 17 years, court records show. His father,
Peter Lanza, a tax executive for General Electric, moved to Stamford,
and in January 2011 married a woman who is a librarian at the
University of Connecticut.
His mother, Nancy, kept their home in Newtown, a prosperous, hilly
enclave of spacious, newer homes about five miles from the elementary
school. Adam Lanza was thought to have been living in the house, too.
Friends remembered Ms. Lanza as being very involved in her sons’
lives.
“Their mother was very protective, very hands-on,” said Gina McDade,
whose son was a playmate of Ryan Lanza’s and spent much time at his
home, which she described as a two-story Colonial with a pool.
“It was a beautiful home,” Ms. McDade said. “She was a good
housekeeper, better than me. You could tell her kids really came
first.”
Beth Israel, 43, said she and her family lived down the street from
the Lanzas, and her daughter went to school with Adam Lanza. She said
she had not spoken to any members of the family in three years.
“He was a socially awkward kid,” Ms. Israel said. “He always had
issues. He was kind of a loner. I don’t know who his friends were.”
She said she would speak with his mother on occasion, but said the
family was not social.
On Friday, police officers and agents from the Federal Bureau of
Investigation swarmed through the Lanzas’ neighborhood, blocking off
streets and asking residents to leave their homes.
Throughout the afternoon, Ms. Lanza’s surviving son, Ryan, was named
by some news outlets as the killer.
Ryan Lanza’s identification had been found on the body of his underage
brother, leading to the mistaken reports.
Brett Wilshe, a neighbor of Ryan Lanza’s in Hoboken, said he
communicated with him by instant message at 1:15 p.m.
“He said he thought his mom was dead, and he was heading back up to
Connecticut,” Mr. Wilshe said. “He said, ‘It was my brother.’ ”
When some reports stated he was "a smart kid, a gamer"
I just said "Yup!" and grinned. Then one of my friends found this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0
A Gunman, Recalled as Intelligent and Shy, Who Left Few Footprints in
Life
By DAVID M. HALBFINGER Published: December 14, 2012
He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class,
and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called
upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words
out, as if having to speak up were painful.
Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in
Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the
pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things
that his classmates recalled about him.
He did all he could to avoid attention, it seemed.
Until Friday.
The authorities said Mr. Lanza, 20, wearing combat gear, carried out
one of the deadliest school shootings in the nation’s history. He
killed 20 children and six adults at the elementary school, they said.
He then apparently turned his gun on himself. Earlier, the police
said, he also killed his mother.
In his brief adulthood, Mr. Lanza had left few footprints, electronic
or otherwise. He apparently had no Facebook page, unlike his older
brother, Ryan, a Hoboken, N.J., resident who for several hours on
Friday was misidentified in news reports as the perpetrator of the
massacre.
Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of
the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who
graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.
Matt Baier, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, and other
high school classmates recalled how deeply uncomfortable Mr. Lanza was
in social situations.
Several said in separate interviews that it was their understanding
that he had a developmental disorder. They said they had been told
that the disorder was Asperger’s syndrome, which is considered a high
functioning form of autism.
“It’s not like people picked on him for it,” Mr. Baier said. “From
what I saw, people just let him be, and that was that.”
Law enforcement officials said Friday that they were closely examining
whether Mr. Lanza had such a disorder.
One former classmate who said he was familiar with the disorder
described Mr. Lanza as having a “very flat affect,” adding, “If you
looked at him, you couldn’t see any emotions going through his head.”
Others said Mr. Lanza’s evident discomfort prompted giggles from those
who did not understand him.
“You could tell that he felt so uncomfortable about being put on the
spot,” said Olivia DeVivo, also now at the University of Connecticut.
“I think that maybe he wasn’t given the right kind of attention or
help. I think he went so unnoticed that people didn’t even stop to
realize that maybe there’s actually something else going on here —
that maybe he needs to be talking or getting some kind of mental help.
In high school, no one really takes the time to look and think, ‘Why
is he acting this way?’ ”
Ms. DeVivo remembered Mr. Lanza from sixth grade and earlier, talking
about aliens and “blowing things up,” but she chalked this up to the
typical talk of prepubescent boys.
Still, after hearing of the news on Friday, Ms. DeVivo reconnected
with friends from Newtown, and the consensus was stark. “They weren’t
surprised,” she said. “They said he always seemed like he was someone
who was capable of that because he just didn’t really connect with our
high school, and didn’t really connect with our town.”
She added: “I never saw him with anyone. I can’t even think of one
person that was associated with him.”
Mr. Baier, who sat next to Mr. Lanza in the back of their sophomore-
year honors math class, said Mr. Lanza barely said a word all year,
but earned high marks. He said he knew this only from peeking at Mr.
Lanza’s scores when their teacher handed back their tests.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0
(Page 2 of 2)
Out of view of his classmates, Mr. Lanza’s adolescence seemed to have
been turbulent. In 2006, his older brother graduated high school and
went to Quinnipiac University in Connecticut, leaving him alone with
their parents — whose marriage was apparently coming apart.
In 2008, they divorced after 17 years, court records show. His father,
Peter Lanza, a tax executive for General Electric, moved to Stamford,
and in January 2011 married a woman who is a librarian at the
University of Connecticut.
His mother, Nancy, kept their home in Newtown, a prosperous, hilly
enclave of spacious, newer homes about five miles from the elementary
school. Adam Lanza was thought to have been living in the house, too.
Friends remembered Ms. Lanza as being very involved in her sons’
lives.
“Their mother was very protective, very hands-on,” said Gina McDade,
whose son was a playmate of Ryan Lanza’s and spent much time at his
home, which she described as a two-story Colonial with a pool.
“It was a beautiful home,” Ms. McDade said. “She was a good
housekeeper, better than me. You could tell her kids really came
first.”
Beth Israel, 43, said she and her family lived down the street from
the Lanzas, and her daughter went to school with Adam Lanza. She said
she had not spoken to any members of the family in three years.
“He was a socially awkward kid,” Ms. Israel said. “He always had
issues. He was kind of a loner. I don’t know who his friends were.”
She said she would speak with his mother on occasion, but said the
family was not social.
On Friday, police officers and agents from the Federal Bureau of
Investigation swarmed through the Lanzas’ neighborhood, blocking off
streets and asking residents to leave their homes.
Throughout the afternoon, Ms. Lanza’s surviving son, Ryan, was named
by some news outlets as the killer.
Ryan Lanza’s identification had been found on the body of his underage
brother, leading to the mistaken reports.
Brett Wilshe, a neighbor of Ryan Lanza’s in Hoboken, said he
communicated with him by instant message at 1:15 p.m.
“He said he thought his mom was dead, and he was heading back up to
Connecticut,” Mr. Wilshe said. “He said, ‘It was my brother.’ ”
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Dec 16, 2012, 4:11:03 AM12/16/12
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Sn!pe wrote:
> Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Very, very sad.
>
> I think I'll go out for some fresh air.
but did you see his mom's tits she was well stacked
> Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> "He was a socially awkward kid," Ms. Israel said. "He always had
>> issues. He was kind of a loner. I don't know who his friends were."
>
> [...]
>> "He was a socially awkward kid," Ms. Israel said. "He always had
>> issues. He was kind of a loner. I don't know who his friends were."
>
>
> Very, very sad.
>
> I think I'll go out for some fresh air.
but did you see his mom's tits she was well stacked
Warren Penn
Dec 16, 2012, 4:29:51 AM12/16/12
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Time to put these "special needs" types in semi-confinement. School
environment.
Parental responsibility? Like the family of the nut who shoot
Congresswoman Giffords
and others.
environment.
Parental responsibility? Like the family of the nut who shoot
Congresswoman Giffords
and others.
Greegor
Dec 16, 2012, 5:46:04 AM12/16/12
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Nancy J Lanza had two pistols and an assault rifle
but didn't keep them in a GUN SAFE?? WTF
Some people are STILL pushing the myth that
Aspies can't commit violent crimes and can't lie.
A portion of Aspies can and DO.
Caretakers have observed Aspies telling
lies and being quite thrilled about doing so.
Aspies typically got rejected by kids starting
on their very first day of kindergarten, and that
social rejection causes most to be angry.
Most Aspies have several comorbidities.
Aspergers with a comorbidity of Personality Disorder
did not suprise me one bit.
Once social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists.
caseworkers and similar people can hang a
MAJOR diagnosis on somebody, they often don't
bother to catalog the person's comorbidities.
Not EVERY Bipolar commits homicide.
Not EVERY schizophrenic commits homicide.
Not EVERY Aspie commits homicide.
But it's a very tiny shift from Sociopath into Psychopath territory
for any of them.
Just ask the AUK'ers!
but didn't keep them in a GUN SAFE?? WTF
Some people are STILL pushing the myth that
Aspies can't commit violent crimes and can't lie.
A portion of Aspies can and DO.
Caretakers have observed Aspies telling
lies and being quite thrilled about doing so.
Aspies typically got rejected by kids starting
on their very first day of kindergarten, and that
social rejection causes most to be angry.
Most Aspies have several comorbidities.
Aspergers with a comorbidity of Personality Disorder
did not suprise me one bit.
Once social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists.
caseworkers and similar people can hang a
MAJOR diagnosis on somebody, they often don't
bother to catalog the person's comorbidities.
Not EVERY Bipolar commits homicide.
Not EVERY schizophrenic commits homicide.
Not EVERY Aspie commits homicide.
But it's a very tiny shift from Sociopath into Psychopath territory
for any of them.
Just ask the AUK'ers!
Greegor
Dec 16, 2012, 7:50:53 PM12/16/12
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/msg/ecf2213492ec8ead?hl=en
Why are you so touchy about this subject, Kent?
Why are you so touchy about this subject, Kent?
Greegor
Dec 17, 2012, 10:49:39 AM12/17/12
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Greegor
Dec 18, 2012, 6:56:22 AM12/18/12
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http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ia-supreme-court/1360099.html
Kent Bradley Wills, DOB Jan 8, 1969
is so screwed up that even when he was
convicted to TEN YEARS in prison for
Garage Burglary, the Judge felt SORRY for him
and sent him to a half-way house run by
Corrections instead.
Imagine Kent's parents having to face the
reality that their son is so chuckle headed
that the family money has to be drizzled
to him by way of a "spendthrift" trust fund
just to keep the imbecile from blowing it
all on magic beans.
Kent's Mom teaches seminars on Asset Protection.
Even with all of this going for him, Kent
must have felt this drizzling money
was not enough to feed some spending habit,
so he took to THIEVERY.
Payment of debts were part of Kent's
YEARS of probation. Near the very end
of probation Kent almost got REVOKED
for nonpayment and sent away for the full
TEN YEARS in prison.
Kent's Mommy and Daddy
had to rush in and pay his bill (Dec '08)
to keep little Kenty from having to do
the full TEN YEARS in an actual prison.
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.
6(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Kent Bradley Wills, DOB Jan 8, 1969
is so screwed up that even when he was
convicted to TEN YEARS in prison for
Garage Burglary, the Judge felt SORRY for him
and sent him to a half-way house run by
Corrections instead.
Imagine Kent's parents having to face the
reality that their son is so chuckle headed
that the family money has to be drizzled
to him by way of a "spendthrift" trust fund
just to keep the imbecile from blowing it
all on magic beans.
Kent's Mom teaches seminars on Asset Protection.
Even with all of this going for him, Kent
must have felt this drizzling money
was not enough to feed some spending habit,
so he took to THIEVERY.
Payment of debts were part of Kent's
YEARS of probation. Near the very end
of probation Kent almost got REVOKED
for nonpayment and sent away for the full
TEN YEARS in prison.
Kent's Mommy and Daddy
had to rush in and pay his bill (Dec '08)
to keep little Kenty from having to do
the full TEN YEARS in an actual prison.
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.
6(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Greegor
Dec 21, 2012, 3:35:27 AM12/21/12
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KBW > He whined for weeks about how the judge
KBW > in his case should have taken his
KBW > Asperger's into consideration in sentencing.
KBW > That he hadn't yet been diagnosed never
KBW > seemed to sink in with Greg.
G > It's a perfect zero.
G > Not one truth in that statement, Kent.
KBW > If I'm lying, provide your evidence.
You attempted to reverse the burden of proof.
Nice try.
KBW > in his case should have taken his
KBW > Asperger's into consideration in sentencing.
KBW > That he hadn't yet been diagnosed never
KBW > seemed to sink in with Greg.
G > It's a perfect zero.
G > Not one truth in that statement, Kent.
KBW > If I'm lying, provide your evidence.
You attempted to reverse the burden of proof.
Nice try.
Greegor
Feb 5, 2013, 12:35:27 AM2/5/13
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On Feb 4, 12:16 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> On 2/4/13 11:25 AM, Greegor wrote:
>
> > If Adam Lanza's mother were alive, would she bear any legal
> > responsibility for ENABLING a psychopath like that to run loose?
>
> > Adam P. Lanza DOB April 22, 1992
>
> That makes Adam P. Lanza an adult, and in general, the law makes adults
> responsible for their own behavior. An exception is mandatory reporting
> laws for medical professionals.
> The standard is whether Lanza's mother
> knew or should have known that her son was a danger.
There are reports that she knew.
It's not unreasonable to presume that
he was an SSI DISABILITY case, is it Zeppy?
> > had Aspergers with comorbidity of schizophrenia.
>
> You're fond of making long-distance diagnoses,
> but let's assume that this is true.
He was on a drug called Fanapt for his Schizophrenia.
What do you take for yours, Zeppy?
> Not all schizophrenics are violent, and their behavior
> isn't always predictable, which means that Lanza's
> mother would probably be off the hook had she survived.
"Knew or should have known" is the key legal phrase.
> Apparently his rampage was the result
> of his rage that he was about to be caged.
> "Apparently" here means "there are unconfirmed reports."
More than that.
> On 2/4/13 11:25 AM, Greegor wrote:
>
> > If Adam Lanza's mother were alive, would she bear any legal
> > responsibility for ENABLING a psychopath like that to run loose?
>
> > Adam P. Lanza DOB April 22, 1992
>
> That makes Adam P. Lanza an adult, and in general, the law makes adults
> responsible for their own behavior. An exception is mandatory reporting
> laws for medical professionals.
> The standard is whether Lanza's mother
> knew or should have known that her son was a danger.
There are reports that she knew.
It's not unreasonable to presume that
he was an SSI DISABILITY case, is it Zeppy?
> > had Aspergers with comorbidity of schizophrenia.
>
> You're fond of making long-distance diagnoses,
> but let's assume that this is true.
He was on a drug called Fanapt for his Schizophrenia.
What do you take for yours, Zeppy?
> Not all schizophrenics are violent, and their behavior
> isn't always predictable, which means that Lanza's
> mother would probably be off the hook had she survived.
"Knew or should have known" is the key legal phrase.
> Apparently his rampage was the result
> of his rage that he was about to be caged.
> "Apparently" here means "there are unconfirmed reports."
More than that.
Greegor
Feb 5, 2013, 1:33:29 AM2/5/13
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On Feb 5, 12:06 am, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> that. Consider that you think I'm somebody else based on nothing but
> your own delusions.
> for anyone without training to know that Adam Lanza was a danger, there
> pretty much would have had to be a history of violence.
> psychotropic, she might well believe that the drug would be
> ameliorative, and as a layman believe that the drug would prevent symptoms.
> the symptoms of mental illness is the belief that others are not who
> they appear to be.
> of her own in the treatment of schizophrenia, it would be a hard case to
> prove.
At what point would a parent enabling
a psychopathic son make the parent
responsible for enabling the psychopath?
> On 2/4/13 11:35 PM, Greegor wrote:
>
> > On Feb 4, 12:16 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> On 2/4/13 11:25 AM, Greegor wrote:
>
> >>> If Adam Lanza's mother were alive, would she bear any legal
> >>> responsibility for ENABLING a psychopath like that to run loose?
>
> >>> Adam P. Lanza DOB April 22, 1992
>
> >> That makes Adam P. Lanza an adult, and in general, the law makes adults
> >> responsible for their own behavior. An exception is mandatory reporting
> >> laws for medical professionals.
>
> >> The standard is whether Lanza's mother
> >> knew or should have known that her son was a danger.
>
> > There are reports that she knew.
>
> I know that hearsay is good enough for you. Hell, you don't even need
>
> > On Feb 4, 12:16 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> On 2/4/13 11:25 AM, Greegor wrote:
>
> >>> If Adam Lanza's mother were alive, would she bear any legal
> >>> responsibility for ENABLING a psychopath like that to run loose?
>
> >>> Adam P. Lanza DOB April 22, 1992
>
> >> That makes Adam P. Lanza an adult, and in general, the law makes adults
> >> responsible for their own behavior. An exception is mandatory reporting
> >> laws for medical professionals.
>
> >> The standard is whether Lanza's mother
> >> knew or should have known that her son was a danger.
>
> > There are reports that she knew.
>
> that. Consider that you think I'm somebody else based on nothing but
> your own delusions.
>
> > It's not unreasonable to presume that
> > he was an SSI DISABILITY case, is it Zeppy?
>
> Presume what you want, but most people on disability aren't violent, and
> > It's not unreasonable to presume that
> > he was an SSI DISABILITY case, is it Zeppy?
>
> for anyone without training to know that Adam Lanza was a danger, there
> pretty much would have had to be a history of violence.
>
> >>> had Aspergers with comorbidity of schizophrenia.
>
> >> You're fond of making long-distance diagnoses,
> >> but let's assume that this is true.
>
> > He was on a drug called Fanapt for his Schizophrenia.
>
> Most schizophrenics are not violent, and if his mother knew he was on a
> >>> had Aspergers with comorbidity of schizophrenia.
>
> >> You're fond of making long-distance diagnoses,
> >> but let's assume that this is true.
>
> > He was on a drug called Fanapt for his Schizophrenia.
>
> psychotropic, she might well believe that the drug would be
> ameliorative, and as a layman believe that the drug would prevent symptoms.
>
> > What do you take for yours, Zeppy?
>
> What amuses me about this whole Zeppy delusion of yours is that one of
> > What do you take for yours, Zeppy?
>
> the symptoms of mental illness is the belief that others are not who
> they appear to be.
>
> >> Not all schizophrenics are violent, and their behavior
> >> isn't always predictable, which means that Lanza's
> >> mother would probably be off the hook had she survived.
>
> > "Knew or should have known" is the key legal phrase.
>
> It is, but without a history of violence on her son's part or training
> >> Not all schizophrenics are violent, and their behavior
> >> isn't always predictable, which means that Lanza's
> >> mother would probably be off the hook had she survived.
>
> > "Knew or should have known" is the key legal phrase.
>
> of her own in the treatment of schizophrenia, it would be a hard case to
> prove.
>
> >> Apparently his rampage was the result
> >> of his rage that he was about to be caged.
>
> >> "Apparently" here means "there are unconfirmed reports."
>
> > More than that.
>
> Nothing you've presented here.
> >> Apparently his rampage was the result
> >> of his rage that he was about to be caged.
>
> >> "Apparently" here means "there are unconfirmed reports."
>
> > More than that.
>
At what point would a parent enabling
a psychopathic son make the parent
responsible for enabling the psychopath?
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