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Raven

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Mar 12, 1995, 11:09:22 AM3/12/95
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ANZ...@prodigy.com (B Scott) spews on alt.religion.christian:

| I want to warn Christian followers about Billy Graham. Billy Graham is a 33
| degree Scottish Rite Freemason. A Mason can't be a Christian because he is
| a Satanist. Billy Graham has been initiated into the highest degree
| Luciferian 33. A Mason must murder someone, or do something great for the
| Masonic Lodge to receive a 33 degree Luciferian. Billy Graham had done
| something very serious to receive his 33 degree Luciferian. Many crimes
| committed by Masons goes unsolved, and unreported. Freemasonry is so
| powerful that it control our government, and our police department. Most of
| your Sheriff are Masons. Many Masons join the CIA, FBI, and police force
| around the country.
|
| Billy Graham, and the rest of the Mason don't worship Satan , but Lucifer.
| A Mason came to my friend home. My friend ask if he worship Satan. He said,
| "We don't worship Satan, but we worship Lucifer. Lucifer is the light of
| the world. Satan is the God we hate." It's useless to listen to Billy
| Graham preaching. Masons lie all the time like Lucifer. I talk to many
| Masons before, and all the time they lie. It's not worth talking to a
| Mason, or listen to his preaching because they lie. I don't find any
| Christian Mason Pastor, or evangelist worth listening to.

The Ninth Commandment reads:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

You are calling your neighbor a Satanist, and a murderer, and a liar.

But you neither present proof that others may see it, nor assert that
you know all this of your own knowledge. [Were you there to see it?]

So why should we believe a word of this incredible and vicious libel?

Because you say so? But how do YOU know?

Your paranoia is no excuse. Either cite proof (not just accusations),
or admit that YOU are a liar, a bearer of false witness, and therefore
a deliberate violator of the Ninth Commandment.

-- Raven (JSi...@Music.Lib.MATC.Edu). [All standard disclaimers apply]

BrJacques

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Mar 13, 1995, 9:53:12 PM3/13/95
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Raven <JSI...@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU> writes:

>| I want to warn Christian followers about Billy Graham. Billy Graham is a 33
>| degree Scottish Rite Freemason. A Mason can't be a Christian because he is
>| a Satanist. Billy Graham has been initiated into the highest degree
>| Luciferian 33. A Mason must murder someone, or do something great for the
>| Masonic Lodge to receive a 33 degree Luciferian. Billy Graham had done
>| something very serious to receive his 33 degree Luciferian. Many crimes
>| committed by Masons goes unsolved, and unreported. Freemasonry is so
>| powerful that it control our government, and our police department. Most of
>| your Sheriff are Masons. Many Masons join the CIA, FBI, and police force
>| around the country.

<Lots of other anti-Masonic vitriol deleted>

I find this post very, very scary.

I read once in the New York Times that Bosnian Serbs during the war against
the Muslims used the phrase "Zionist-Masonic conspiracy" to justify ethnic
cleansing. Now anti-Masonry is gaining momentum in the States, as can be
seen from this post.

I don't find this sort of talk funny or slight. Perhaps there is something
to be said for using reason and rationality to expose its delusion, though
you will convince only third parties reading it, not the author(s).

I could get into a long, Jungian discussion about projection of the shadow,
but I prefer to skip it...

BrJacques

Karl Campbell

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Mar 14, 1995, 1:43:44 AM3/14/95
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schw...@news.sccsi.com (Karl Schwartz) wrote:
>
> Raven (JSI...@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU) wrote:
> : ANZ...@prodigy.com (B Scott) spews on alt.religion.christian:

>
> : | I want to warn Christian followers about Billy Graham. Billy Graham is a 33
> : |
> {{Remainder of ignorant drivel snipped}}


> Good Grief. Where did this guy come from? This is the sort of drivel that
> makes me shudder. This is the sort of stuff that all worthy brother must
> put up with amoung folks in the community who don't know or care about the
> true meaning of freemasonry......


No, It is the stuff that we put up with from the 1%ers who find this
forum to be an easy target for their BS.....


Karl Campbell
Searcy Lodge #49 F&AM
Little Rock Scottish Rite
National Sojourners Fort Sill Chapter #129

Karl Campbell

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Mar 14, 1995, 1:43:54 AM3/14/95
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schw...@news.sccsi.com (Karl Schwartz) wrote:
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> Raven (JSI...@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU) wrote:
> : ANZ...@prodigy.com (B Scott) spews on alt.religion.christian:

>
> : | I want to warn Christian followers about Billy Graham. Billy Graham is a 33

Herald Sawdy

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Mar 15, 1995, 10:38:20 AM3/15/95
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I've never heard that Billy Graham is even a Mason. Does anyone know if
this is true?

Herald Sawdy
San Diego, Ca.

Ken Christianson

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Mar 16, 1995, 6:45:57 AM3/16/95
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In <3k2gj6$r...@tattoo.sccsi.com> schw...@news.sccsi.com (Karl Schwartz)
writes:

>
>Raven (JSI...@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU) wrote:
>: ANZ...@prodigy.com (B Scott) spews on alt.religion.christian:

>Good Grief. Where did this guy come from? This is the sort of drivel
that
>makes me shudder. This is the sort of stuff that all worthy brother
must
>put up with amoung folks in the community who don't know or care about
the
>true meaning of freemasonry......
>


When such accusations such as the above are produced it is an
opportunity for Freemasons to look at the misunderstanding and try to
learn what it is that non-Masons have got mixed up on. Many times the
broadside leveled at Freemasonry is just a lack of understanding.

I have no idea whether or not Rev Graham is a Mason or not. He has
appeared to me to be a good man and that is quite enough. Masons come
from all different backgrounds and upbringings. Each has to find his
own way down the Path. But it is not within Freemasonry to worship a
satanic master, the symbol of darkness. There may be men who are Masons
who follow another path, but it is NOT Masonry.

If the accusation comes from lack of understanding, it can be forgiven.
If however it comes from parroting the mistruths of others, that is an
example of meaness and cruelty toward another human being and is not
right.

Raven

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Mar 16, 1995, 8:47:32 AM3/16/95
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pa...@netcom.com (Gerry Palo) writes:
|Raven <JSI...@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU> wrote:
|
|>And why do you believe Texe Marrs is not the conspirator, instead?
|
|I read some of his stuff and had the same thought. At least he could be
|an agent provocateur -- for whom I don't know. Freemasonry is not his
|only target. I get the impression that the historical enmity between
|Freemasonry and the Roman Catholic Church has softened somewhat in recent
|years, and now the Southern Baptists and some other branches of
|evangelical Protestant Christianity have taken up the battle flag. But
|Marrs is a kind of grotesque parody of even that kind of hostility.
[snip]
|He seems like an actor playing the role of an extreme fundamentalist
|fanatic as the secular left likes to imagine all fundamentalists to be.
|That his literature sells is to my mind a symptom of the fact that there
|is indeed a sense of impending apocalyptic happenings in the air. Out of
|this sense that important things are about to happen a sense of fearful
|foreboding can arise, and people like Marrs (and his organization, if
|indeed he himself is part of a conspiracy) feed on such fears. Neither
|true Masons nor true Christians need fear either the events to come nor
|Marrs attempts (which really are clownish if you step back and look at
|them) to prey on them.

It seems to me that there have been such "clownish" hatemongers before,
stupid and ignorant and delusional and all of that, who nevertheless
have attracted believers or followers, and sparked murder and mayhem.
(I'd name names, but under Usenet tradition that would end the thread.)

If it is for reasons of faith in an afterlife that you do not fear such
events, consider how many people would be drawn into soul-killing sins
by hatemongers and the resulting violence; the agony would not end here.

Roger Ingersoll

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Mar 20, 1995, 8:09:45 AM3/20/95
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: > : ANZ...@prodigy.com (B Scott) spews on alt.religion.christian:


: No, It is the stuff that we put up with from the 1%ers who find this


: forum to be an easy target for their BS.....

This was posted here by a Mason to let us know what was being discussed
on alt.religion.christian. The original poster never came here and never
posted a followup to any questions about his source, etc.. The subject
died on alt.religion.christian without a single post agreeing with this
garbage.

Roger

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Michael Morris

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Mar 21, 1995, 6:25:36 PM3/21/95
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Billy Graham,the Christian evangelist,preaches that a person must trust
in the eternal Almighty God the Son,Yahweh the Word incarnate,Jesus the
Christ to be saved from the righteous eternal punishment due to their
sins.Saved from punishment but brought immediately into a loving
relationship with God in this present life and on into all
eternity. Rev. Graham steadfastly preaches that there is salvation in no
other person than the eternal Word incarnate ,Jesus Christ. This
contradicts Freemasonry's theology that there are many roads to God.
Therefore give some proof of your allegations or stop slandering
Rev.Grahams good name!
In Christ Jesus,
Mike Morris
P.S. I'm not a Southern Baptist.

Jason Poirot/Internet Express

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Mar 27, 1995, 5:13:11 PM3/27/95
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Alright - this sort of "hate material" is so nearly laughable that it's
annoying. While I am _NOT_ a Freemason, I *am* a Luciferian- and on what
grounds do you use "Luciferian" do defame one's character? (BTW - B.
Graham is *NOT* a Luciferian in any sense of the word).

Do you even know what a Luciferian is?

A Luciferian is one whom respects the archetype of Lucifer, the Morning
Star. Lucifer defied the abominable God who set restriction and
limitation upon mankind by giving man knowledge of good and evil which
"opened their eyes... and they saw... like God." Luciferians are seekers
of Wisdom, no matter the price- they adhere to ethical standards with
self-respect and self-pride. Luciferians are distinctly different than
babykilling devil-worshippers who seek some sort of dark gratification-
the Luciferian seeks only to gratify his hunger for knowledge and the
experience of such. The texts of Prometheus giving Fire to mankind and
being punished for it is an obvious correlation to this line of beliefs
and works.

Some texts for reference would be the gnostic scriptures in the NAG
HAMMADI : specifically, THE HYPOSTASES OF THE ARCHONS.

As far as personal accomplishments, I'm a successful engineer at a large
company, have a strong and fulfilling family relationship, and possess an
honor which proports consistency in thought, word, and action.

Your conspiracies and fears shall be your undoing- they certainly do not
become your search for Truth.


Jason Poirot
Frater N.O.
Order of the Morning Star
75/75
http://usa.net/oktober/infernal.html

bobl...@netins.net

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