Martinism is based on the philosophy and mysticism of Louis Claude de
Saint-Martin, who in turn had studied with Martinez Pasqually, the Chief
of les elus-cohens de l'univers. Martinez Pasqually inherited a Masonic
Charter from his father, which he utilized to provide the context of
qabalist christian initiation. In the work of Martinez Pasqually, the
Spirits of the Unknown World are called forth to visible appearance:
particularly the Spirit known as "La Chose", who is Christ Himself.
Martinez Pasqually emigrated to Haiti towards the end of life, in the
last quarter of the 1700's; Haiti is a country in which not only the
African derived modalities of Voudun exist, but also the initiations of
Martinez Pasqually still are carried on.
Martinez' pupil Saint-Martin later focused on the more mystical Way of
the Heart, instead of the heavy duty theurgical techniques leading to
calling forth the celestial beings to visible appearance. He is thought
by most Martinists today to have inaugarated a Dispensation, which in
Martinist terms, is referred to as "The Initiation." This transmission
was carried on privately for many generations, until Papus (Docteur
Gerard Encausse) created an organization ("The Martinist Order") to
carry on the transmission of the Unknown Masters. Today it survives not
as an integral organization, but in many branches. Not all branches of
Martinism recognize all other branches: however all refer to
Saint-Martin as source of filiation, and also ultimately to Martinez
Pasqually himself. It is impossible to compile an exhaustive list of
all Martinist Orders today, but a number of them are as follows:
1) Formost perhaps is T.M.O., or Traditional Martinist Order, which was
formulated by Ralph Lewis to be carried on within the context of
A.M.O.R.C.
2) Martinist Order of France. This group has a website on the
Internet, and at least one active group in the U.S. It was formulated
by Docteur Phillipe Encause (the son of PAPUS) to carry on the Martinist
Initiation. Its current Chief is Emilio Lorenzo. Certain of its
advanced members possess apostolic succession from Phillippe of Lyons,
the great spiritual healer who so impressed PAPUS, and who is believed
by his followers to be be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
3) Martinist Order and Synarchy (l'Ordre Martiniste et Synarchique),
Brittanic Grand Lodge. This group is one of the major branches of
Martinism, and it is explicitly recognized and in fraternal relations
with Martinist Order of France.
4) Martinist Order and Synarchy, Canadian Grand Lodge. This group was
originally chartered by the Brittanic Grand Lodge, but it declared
independance in the 1960's. Its filiation is no longer recognized by
the Brittanic Grand Lodge for administrative reasons, although the
Brittanic Grand Lodge has occassionally tendered feelers to bring the
Canadian sheep back into the fold.
5) Martinist Order and Synarchy, Barbados. This group was formed by
Bishop Guittans originally under Charter from the Brittanic Grand Lodge.
According to the Brittanic Grand Lodge, Bishop Guittans was entrusted
with many arcane manuscripts by the Brittanic Grand Lodge, with the
explicit proviso and promise that he should keep them completely and
unreservedly private, for his own use only. However, once in possession
of these documents, he began to publish them publically in
correspondance courses. This remarkable Knowledge can still be obtained
from ICOMS (Internation College of Martinist Studies) in Barbados. In
additon, Barbados has Initiates in the U.S.
Following his betrayal by publicizing previously unknown and private
arcane material, Bishop Guitons was expelled from the Brittanic Grand
Lodge and he is no longer recognized by the parent group. His group,
the Martinist Order and Synarchy, is now one of the major Martinist
Groups in North America, inluding many sincere and devoted Christian
mystical students who have been initiated therein. The legacy of Bishop
Guitons will no doubt last many generations.
The Barbados Order is not in fraternal relations with, nor is it
recognized by, either the Brittanic Grand Lodge, or the Candadian Grand
Lodge, of Martinist Order and Synarchy.
6) Martinist Order of the Netherlands. This group was formed by a
former member of the ruling council of the Martinist Order of France.
It has many bodies around the world, including many in the U.S., and
even one in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Its current head resides in New York. It
has a web-page on the Internet.
7) Rose-Croix Martinist Order. This group is active in the U.S., and
has many branches and circles. It is known for its practice of advanced
martinist theurgy. The identity of its leader Theophilus is unknown,
but he is thought by some to be an advanced teacher of christian
mysteries and a professor of higher learning. The Rose-Croix Martinist
Order is not recognized by the Martinist Order of the Netherlands, any
branch of the Martinist Order and Synarchy, or the Martinist Order of
France, headed by Emilio Lorenzo.
8) L'Ordre Martinist Initiatique. This filiation was brought to France
by emigre White Russian martinists. Its filiation is undocumented but
valid, and it has a large following in France, where it is carried on by
the designated successors of the great french occultist, Robert
Ambelain, auther of the famed treatise "The Sacred Magic of Abramelin
the Mage."
9) The Chivalric Martinist Order of Christ. This Order is headed by
Remy-Boyer, a major Gnostic Bishop and student of famed Martinist and
Syrian Orthodox Priest Robert Amadou. It has active branches in the
U.S. The initiates of the Chivalric Martinist Order of Christ employ
Magick derived from the Golden Dawn. Its U.S. representative is a major
Bishop of the Gnostic faith. This Order derives its filiation from
l'Ordre Martiniste Initiatique.
10) Italian and Greek martinist orders. One of these groups is carried
forward by a Gnostic Bishop who resides in Florence, Italy.
11) Mike Restivo Order. The Canadian Mr. Restivo has scandalized
Martinism by his repeated and unfounded attacks upon freemasonry on the
Internet, as well as setting forth Martinist claims unrecognized by the
Brittanic Grand Lodge. His group is thought to have one member only,
namely, Mike Restivo himself, although he is thought by some to have the
sympathy of Mr. Nile Good, a former official of the Martinist Order and
Synarchy, Canadian Grand Lodge, but who does not attend Mr. Restivo's
meetings. Although he possesses at least a nodding or superficial
acquaintance of Martinezisme, even Mr. Restivo acknowledges that he is
not himself, and cannot be, a Reaux-Croix, or active theurgical
practitioner. Mr. Restivo is also known for his repeated attacks on
Gnosticism, and for his pretended adherance to Roman Catholicism.
It should be mentioned in passing that Martinez Pasqually had another
student named Willermoz, who at length, succeeded in the Theurgical
Work. He founded an Order called the Beneficent Knights of the Holy
City, and which contains a form of Martinist Christian dispensation. A
branch of this Order still exists among the Masons in the United States,
who carry forward its mystical, magical, Christian, and theurgical
pracitices in annual meetings during Masonic Week in Washington, D.C.
This surviving branch of Willermozisme has only one body, which is
limited to twenty-five members, and who must be Master Masons. In terms
of its ritual authenticity, the Washington D.C. C.B.C.S. is certainly
the formost in the world. Its members are thought to include the most
prominant and highest ranking Masons in the country.
SAR
I enjoyed this post, however, you just couldn't resist..
could you ?
Got him on the backhand , eh ?
>Hmmm, it appears we are going to do whatever we can to perpetuate this
>Restivo
>nonsense. It will never end.
>
It appears that it will never end as long as someone brings it up again and
again. Exactly why did you feel it necessary to post the entire quote by Sir
Draconis? If you ignored it, maybe the topic would go away as you wish. By
posting it again, you have only supplied more ammunition for someone looking
for a topic. Just my thoughts.
George F. Kivowitz
SAR,
Thanks for a very informative article on Martinism, which answered several
questions for me. However, please note my opinion that the Restivo "zinger"
was not really necessary in the format delivered as kinder words would have
served. Regardless, a few more questions if you will.
In which obedience(?) do you hold membership?
Regarding the Theurgical Work, to what purpose is the mysticism practiced?
Is there a code of conduct or honour required of Martinists inherent to the
Initiation?
As you are aware, many organizations assume for themselves the term
"Freemasonry." Unrelated to the question of recognition or filiation, is
this also the case in the Martinist Orders?
Mike Wells
mgwb...@fgi.net
Le Maitre Philippe never claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
He modestly called himself "le Chien du Berger"
>
> 3) Martinist Order and Synarchy (l'Ordre Martiniste et Synarchique),
> Brittanic Grand Lodge. This group is one of the major branches of
> Martinism, and it is explicitly recognized and in fraternal relations
> with Martinist Order of France.
>
> 4) Martinist Order and Synarchy, Canadian Grand Lodge. This group was
> originally chartered by the Brittanic Grand Lodge, but it declared
> independance in the 1960's.
True.
Its filiation is no longer recognized by
> the Brittanic Grand Lodge for administrative reasons,
The karmic responsibility to the Canadian members was ignored by an
indifferent Britannic Grand Lodge. And still is as late as 1998. To
fulfill their responsibilities to their Initiates, the Canadian Officers
seceded.
although the
> Brittanic Grand Lodge has occassionally tendered feelers to bring the
> Canadian sheep back into the fold.
Only on terms which repudiate and renounce members loyalty to the
Canadian Grand Officers. Legitimacy cannot be imparted through either
treachery or tyranny.
>
> 5) Martinist Order and Synarchy, Barbados. This group was formed by
> Bishop Guittans originally under Charter from the Brittanic Grand Lodge.
> According to the Brittanic Grand Lodge, Bishop Guittans was entrusted
> with many arcane manuscripts by the Brittanic Grand Lodge, with the
> explicit proviso and promise that he should keep them completely and
> unreservedly private, for his own use only. However, once in possession
> of these documents, he began to publish them publically in
> correspondance courses. This remarkable Knowledge can still be obtained
> from ICOMS (Internation College of Martinist Studies) in Barbados. In
> additon, Barbados has Initiates in the U.S.
Essentially true. One man's esoteric but non-proprietary information,
like history and philosophy of Martinism might be construed as another's
strictly private Order lesson material, however.
>
> Following his betrayal by publicizing previously unknown and private
> arcane material, Bishop Guitons was expelled from the Brittanic Grand
> Lodge and he is no longer recognized by the parent group.
True.
His group,
> the Martinist Order and Synarchy, is now one of the major Martinist
> Groups in North America, inluding many sincere and devoted Christian
> mystical students who have been initiated therein. The legacy of Bishop
> Guitons will no doubt last many generations.
Essentially true.
>
> The Barbados Order is not in fraternal relations with, nor is it
> recognized by, either the Brittanic Grand Lodge, or the Candadian Grand
> Lodge, of Martinist Order and Synarchy.
It is recognized formally by the Canadian O.M.&S., and informally by the
Rose-Croix Martinist Order (Ontario, Canada).
>
> 6) Martinist Order of the Netherlands. This group was formed by a
> former member of the ruling council of the Martinist Order of France.
> It has many bodies around the world, including many in the U.S., and
> even one in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Its current head resides in New York. It
> has a web-page on the Internet.
True.
>
> 7) Rose-Croix Martinist Order. This group is active in the U.S., and
> has many branches and circles. It is known for its practice of advanced
> martinist theurgy.
What they define as "Theurgy" deviates from the conventionally
understood sense. It is not used in the sense of operative magical
evocation.
The identity of its leader Theophilus is unknown,
> but he is thought by some to be an advanced teacher of christian
> mysteries and a professor of higher learning.
His identity is known by many. He seceded from the British Martinist
Order, a few years ago.
The Rose-Croix Martinist
> Order is not recognized by the Martinist Order of the Netherlands, any
> branch of the Martinist Order and Synarchy, or the Martinist Order of
> France, headed by Emilio Lorenzo.
True.
>
> 8) L'Ordre Martinist Initiatique. This filiation was brought to France
> by emigre White Russian martinists. Its filiation is undocumented but
> valid, and it has a large following in France, where it is carried on by
> the designated successors of the great french occultist, Robert
> Ambelain, auther of the famed treatise "The Sacred Magic of Abramelin
> the Mage."
True.
>
> 9) The Chivalric Martinist Order of Christ. This Order is headed by
> Remy-Boyer, a major Gnostic Bishop and student of famed Martinist and
> Syrian Orthodox Priest Robert Amadou. It has active branches in the
> U.S. The initiates of the Chivalric Martinist Order of Christ employ
> Magick derived from the Golden Dawn. Its U.S. representative is a major
> Bishop of the Gnostic faith. This Order derives its filiation from
> l'Ordre Martiniste Initiatique.
Essentially true.
>
> 10) Italian and Greek martinist orders. One of these groups is carried
> forward by a Gnostic Bishop who resides in Florence, Italy.
There are also Martinist groups in Mexico and Brazil.
>
> 11) Mike Restivo Order. The Canadian Mr. Restivo has scandalized
> Martinism by his repeated and unfounded attacks upon freemasonry on the
> Internet, as well as setting forth Martinist claims unrecognized by the
> Brittanic Grand Lodge.
Complete nonsense from anti-Restivo hate-Mason Sar Draconis alias Robert
Word.
Word is a poseur who's knowledge is strictly limited to what confidences
of others he betrays.
Not very intelligent, Word cannot distinguish between refuting the
hate-propaganda of a small gang of cyber predators including himself,
and all of Freemasonry. He probably thinks that he "is" Freemasonry.
That would explain the enlarged ego and arrogance required to
consistently situate himself in public for repudiation by facts from
Restivo. Some people never learn that their parroted propaganda was
stale years ago. Too lazy to learn new tricks Mr. Word? Obviously.
<yawn>
His group is thought to have one member only,
> namely, Mike Restivo himself,
That's true, for now. I'm very selective.
although he is thought by some to have the
> sympathy of Mr. Nile Good, a former official of the Martinist Order and
> Synarchy, Canadian Grand Lodge, but who does not attend Mr. Restivo's
> meetings.
Yesterday's news. I have nothing to do with Niall Good since my
Petition process was destroyed. He resigned from the Canadian O.M.&S. I
remain a member and former Grand Officer.
Although he possesses at least a nodding or superficial
> acquaintance of Martinezisme, even Mr. Restivo acknowledges that he is
> not himself, and cannot be, a Reaux-Croix, or active theurgical
> practitioner.
Word is spouting nonsense. Réau-Croix is the highest grade of the
Elus-cohens. The term by itself does not merely connote a theurgical
practitioner, but one possessed of the Beatific Vision of Jesus Christ.
There are some who make titular claims to Réau-Croix status, but the
existence of authentic, Réau-Croix is doubtful. Not even the founder,
Pasqually could effect this great objective of his own Order. Word's
childish rants are seen as the ill-informed parroting that they are, in
the light of Martinist history.
Mr. Restivo is also known for his repeated attacks on
> Gnosticism, and for his pretended adherance to Roman Catholicism.
Poseurs like you invent their own religions, styled "Gnostic" and
proceed to do whatever you want.
Cf. _Bishops at Large_ published by Faber and Faber. Against those
deceivers I rightly expose and rebuke them. Word may be a heretic, but
I remain Roman Catholic, no pretence required.
>
> It should be mentioned in passing that Martinez Pasqually had another
> student named Willermoz, who at length, succeeded in the Theurgical
> Work.
That remains to be proven. When Louis-Claude de Saint-Martin challenged
him to prove his claims, Willermoz bailed out of correspondence with
him. Cf. _Saint-Martin the French Mystic_, by A.E. Waite
He founded an Order called the Beneficent Knights of the Holy
> City, and which contains a form of Martinist Christian dispensation. A
> branch of this Order still exists among the Masons in the United States,
> who carry forward its mystical, magical, Christian, and theurgical
> pracitices in annual meetings during Masonic Week in Washington, D.C.
There are other unrecognized groups. Formally, the C.B.C.S, was
absorbed into the Masonic Rite called the Scottish Rectified Rite still
active in Europe.
> This surviving branch of Willermozisme has only one body, which is
> limited to twenty-five members, and who must be Master Masons. In terms
> of its ritual authenticity, the Washington D.C. C.B.C.S. is certainly
> the formost in the world. Its members are thought to include the most
> prominant and highest ranking Masons in the country.
>
> SAR
For more informed information about Martinism, visit my site at
http://www.pathcom.com/~mtronics/rcmo/
† Mike Restivo
Dear Sir,
Thank you for the informative post..
Sincerely,
MasonTruth
Bro. Manny Blanco (J.W.)
Moreno Valley Lodge # 804
Moreno Valley, CA
"Behold how good and pleasant it is for Brethren to dwell together in unity."
Dear Richard,
The gentleman seems to know Martinism and every Order of it. I don't think he
meant it as an insult but as an explanation of the Order....
Sincerely & Respectfully,
I think the reality of it was that Mike is a Scholar on the Subject,
and while the poster provided genuine insight,
he attempted to draw Mike out on this one.
Mike didn't bite.
I don't even think he dislikes Mike, as much as he
enjoys taunting him, and wanted to elicit subject input.
Strangely, I find it a parallel to a "little girl, pigtail,
and inkwell" attention thing.
Not mature, but it -is- usenet.
* Shrug *
>
> The karmic responsibility to the Canadian members was ignored by an
What "karmic responsibility" adheres to your frequent internet assaults
upon freemasonry, and individuals who are themselves freemasons, Mr.
Restivo?
> † Mike Restivo
In my considered opinion, Mr. Restivo, your remarks do far more to
discredit yourself than they could ever discredit that great and
honorable institution which we call Freemasonry.
SAR
> > The duty to expose evil masquerading as Masonry and those who abuse the
> > Order and fraternal trust for their own advancement is the karmic
> > responsibility of all Masons. Now you know. That you cannot separate the
> > works of a few evil individuals who by circumstance are Masons, but are
> > bound by their common hate of Restivo and obsessed with discredit of
> > Restivo by lies, from the millions of Masons worldwide speaks to your
> > manifold ignorance at best or your intent to deceive at worst.
> >
> > "An organization that enables, if not solicits, if not requires evil
> > acts to protect and/or perpetuate itself, is damned unless reformed." -
> > Restivo
> >
> > † Mike Restivo
>
> In my considered opinion, Mr. Restivo, your remarks do far more to
> discredit yourself than they could ever discredit that great and
> honorable institution which we call Freemasonry.
>
> SAR
He DOES speak his mind, doesn't he?
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>
> > >
> > > "An organization that enables, if not solicits, if not requires evil
> > > acts to protect and/or perpetuate itself, is damned unless reformed." -
> > > Restivo
> > >
> > > † Mike Restivo
> >
> Some of the posts here have been great, but the majority is just a bunch of mud slinging crap from
> people on both sides of the debate. All while at the same time you claim to be "righting wrongs" and speaking up
> for the good of Masonry. What does all this do for Masonry? Does this behavior attract people and make them want to
> join our Fraternity? Most people won't understand the words going back and forth, but they WILL understand the
> actions.
> And actions are louder than any words. For the good of the Craft, if you don't have something good
> to say about someone....then don't say anything at all.
>
> Flames will be accepted both here and via e-mail.
>
> Bob Pringle MM
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>Some of the posts here have been great, but the majority is just a bunch of mud slinging crap from
>people on both sides of the debate.
Welcome to Usenet. If you think *this* is bad, then you may want to
consider throwing away your modem, because it gets a *LOT* worse in
some of the other groups.
>What does all this do for Masonry? Does this behavior attract people and make them want to
>join our Fraternity?
To all appearances, yes. On multiple occasions, people have reported
that they've wandered in here to find out what masonry was about, and
ended up petitioning because of the antis.
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> >What does all this do for Masonry? Does this behavior attract people and make them want to
> >join our Fraternity?
>
> To all appearances, yes. On multiple occasions, people have reported
> that they've wandered in here to find out what masonry was about, and
> ended up petitioning because of the antis.
[snif] [snif]
Do I hear someone suggesting they want to fill out a petition?
|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
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>[snif] [snif]
>Do I hear someone suggesting they want to fill out a petition?
Nope.
Weren't you the one thanking Mr. Restivo for two more petitioners?
> >Do I hear someone suggesting they want to fill out a petition?
>
> Nope.
Just wondering. Sounded like someone was considering things, and had
come to the inevitable conclusion.
Ah well, waiting is.
BTW, our next Annual Installation of Officers will be on Nov. 17th, at
the Church. I've been asked to be the Installing Officer, so it
promises to be an interesting evening.
> Weren't you the one thanking Mr. Restivo for two more petitioners?
I probably was. Just last night, I was discussing him, and his recent
antics, at our Stated Meeting. He has quite the reputation, he has.
|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
Brother Gene .*.
> BTW, our next Annual Installation of Officers will be on Nov. 17th, at
> the Church. I've been asked to be the Installing Officer, so it
> promises to be an interesting evening.
Ah. So this time I have 30 days notice instead of 30 minutes.
Don't let me forget to bring some carrots for the goat this time.
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> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:01:44, br_...@pacbell.net ("Teriyaki Gene" Goldman.·.)
> wrote:
>
> > BTW, our next Annual Installation of Officers will be on Nov. 17th, at
> > the Church. I've been asked to be the Installing Officer, so it
> > promises to be an interesting evening.
>
> Ah. So this time I have 30 days notice instead of 30 minutes.
Yea, sorry about that. I tried to wait until the last minute, but
patience was lacking.
> Don't let me forget to bring some carrots for the goat this time.
She has been having some trouble with carrots lately for some reason.
Celery has been working pretty well, and she likes an occasional
rutabaga.
|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
Brother Gene .*.