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anti...@hotmail.com

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.
I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.

My question is,

WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?

If this is a "secret" that only Masons are allowed to know that that's fine,
I understand you've sworn to various oaths and such. Just say so and I'll
drop this line of inquiry. But if it's public knowledge or if there is
a public statement on the subject I'd love to hear about it.

Enchanter!

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Eugene Goldman.·.

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:36:02 GMT, anti...@hotmail.com wrote:

*I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.
*I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.

<LOL>
Since when?

*My question is,
*
* WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?

Never heard the term in the context of the fraternity before. Where did you
find it?


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ri...@my-dejanews.com

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The great work is that work that only can be worked within each person by
themselves and themselves alone. Masonry attempts to help each member become
a better man by reminding him of those things he already knows are good to
emulate and put into action. It is the internal person that is important to
Masonry. Each Mason should be atempting to strive for inner perfection of
character while knowing full well the impossibility of the task.
Non-the-less, it is that striving which helps us improve.


--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas


In article <6rsbqj$daq$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,


anti...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.

> I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.
>

> My question is,


>
> WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?
>

Floyd Dennis

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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anti...@hotmail.com wrote:

>I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.
>I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.
>
>My question is,
>
> WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?
>

<snip>

I don't recall hearing the term before - not in a Masonic sense,
anyway. Could you supply some context?


Floyd Dennis, Jr.
Sam Davis Lodge #661 F.&A.M., Smyrna, Tennessee
http://sam_davis.home.mindspring.com/
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jwise@hal-pc.org@hal-pc.org

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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For most of us, the primary intent of the Masonic Fraternity
is to help men of good moral character to improve themselves.

Jack Wise
PM, Jaques DeMolay Lodge No. 1390, AF & AM
Houston, TX

In <6rsbqj$daq$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, anti...@hotmail.com writes:
>I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.
>I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.
>
>My question is,
>
> WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?
>

Eugene Goldman.·.

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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On 24 Aug 1998 20:58:52 GMT, jw...@hal-pc.org@hal-pc.org wrote:

*For most of us, the primary intent of the Masonic Fraternity
*is to help men of good moral character to improve themselves.

And of course it is pretty well documented that the primary intent of those who
oppose the Fraternity is to prevent exactly that. I often wonder what problem
they actually have with self-improvement and education.

Lexmagus

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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>Non-the-less, it is that striving which helps us improve.

Well said, Brother Texan and Texan Brother, that is the very key to it all.

--Lex

J. Otto Tennant

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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anti...@hotmail.com writes:

>I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.
>I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.

>My question is,

> WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?

Gee, I thought I had killfiled you. Strange.

But, in answer to your question, as a Master Mason, a 32nd Degree
Scottish Rite Mason, and as a Shriner, I haven't the faintest idea.

It is pleasant to be asked questions which one can answer so promptly,
so directly, and so concisely. (And, as I used to tell my ex-stepson
when he asked a question I couldn't answer, "Keep asking questions; it's
the only way you will learn.") :-)
--
J.Otto Tennant jo...@pobox.com
Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
Charter Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

Richard Watson

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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anti...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I have a simple question that I would like to ask the Masons of this group.
> I am not trying to start a fight I am just looking for answers.
>
> My question is,
>
> WHAT IS THE GREAT WORK?
>
> If this is a "secret" that only Masons are allowed to know that that's fine,
> I understand you've sworn to various oaths and such. Just say so and I'll
> drop this line of inquiry. But if it's public knowledge or if there is
> a public statement on the subject I'd love to hear about it.
>
> Enchanter!

I have never heard of that term, and my Encyclopedia of Freemasonry
makes no referenece to it.

But I'm only an EA.

AUBREY BROWN SR

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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While I suspect that this is only an excuse to get the author's name
mentioned, I will answer the question for the benefit of the Brothers.
The Great Work is also known as Magnum Opus. It was written by Pike
and had less copies printed than Morals and Dogma. It contains the original
degree work of the Scottish Rite, revealing the Masonic sources for many of
the degrees. It details to a great degree where Pike got his ideas from in
reorganizing the Rite. Any brother interested in obtaining a copy can email
me and I'll tell you how to get one.

Aubrey

Richard Watson wrote in message <35E23C...@worldnet.att.net>...

Raybert

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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richj writes:

>The great work is that work that only can be worked within each person by
>themselves and themselves alone. Masonry attempts to help each member become
>a better man by reminding him of those things he already knows are good to
>emulate and put into action. It is the internal person that is important to
>Masonry. Each Mason should be atempting to strive for inner perfection of
>character while knowing full well the impossibility of the task.

>Non-the-less, it is that striving which helps us improve.
>

Well, that's the exoteric or outer meaning. Remember, there is always an
exoteric and an exoteric meaning to everything in masonry. Tell us richj, what
the esoteric or true meaning is! LOL!


Never trust anyone that belongs to a Secret Society!!!

ri...@my-dejanews.com

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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It is.

--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas

In article <199808252355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

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eas...@redriverok.com

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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In article <199808252355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
ray...@aol.com (Raybert) wrote:
> richj writes:
>
> >The great work is that work that only can be worked within each person by
> >themselves and themselves alone. Masonry attempts to help each member become
> >a better man by reminding him of those things he already knows are good to
> >emulate and put into action. It is the internal person that is important to
> >Masonry. Each Mason should be atempting to strive for inner perfection of
> >character while knowing full well the impossibility of the task.
> >Non-the-less, it is that striving which helps us improve.
> >
>
> Well, that's the exoteric or outer meaning. Remember, there is always an
> exoteric and an exoteric meaning to everything in masonry. Tell us richj, what
> the esoteric or true meaning is! LOL!
>

Well no there is not always an exoteric and esoteric meaing to everything.
You also seem to have gotten a misintepretation of what esoteric means in
masonry. In masonry it refers to that part of ritual not to be placed in
writting, as opposed to monitorial or written ritual.

Chuck Easttom

Raybert

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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easttom writes:

>In article <199808252355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> ray...@aol.com (Raybert) wrote:
>> richj writes:
>>
>> >The great work is that work that only can be worked within each person by
>> >themselves and themselves alone. Masonry attempts to help each member
>become
>> >a better man by reminding him of those things he already knows are good to
>> >emulate and put into action. It is the internal person that is important
>to
>> >Masonry. Each Mason should be atempting to strive for inner perfection of
>> >character while knowing full well the impossibility of the task.
>> >Non-the-less, it is that striving which helps us improve.
>> >
>>
>> Well, that's the exoteric or outer meaning. Remember, there is always an
>> exoteric and an exoteric meaning to everything in masonry. Tell us richj,
>what
>> the esoteric or true meaning is! LOL!
>>
>
>Well no there is not always an exoteric and esoteric meaing to everything.
>You also seem to have gotten a misintepretation of what esoteric means in
>masonry. In masonry it refers to that part of ritual not to be placed in
>writting, as opposed to monitorial or written ritual.
>
>Chuck Easttom
>

Yes there is!

ri...@my-dejanews.com

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Sorry Raybert, You are wrong. If you aren't, prove the truth of what you
say.


--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas


In article <199808261421...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

eas...@redriverok.com

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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This seems to be the heart of all your arguements: is, is not. You really
must elevate your debate skills above this.

Chuck Easttom

Raybert

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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easttom writes:

The mason turns to belittling! So what's new?
Sorry Chuck, but I've shown it by your own masonic authors words. Sorry you
cant see it. It might help if you take those blinders off!

eas...@redriverok.com

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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In article <199808281323...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
Its not belittling its an observation of fact. You are presented with cogent
arguements and you respond with :is not! I have to wonder about someone when
that is the substance of their arguement. As to "masonic authors" you posted
some pike quotes out of context, when I posted the entire context showing you
where clearly wrong, you ignored my posts. You are not interested in facts,
just in fueling your own delusions.

JEC

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hate_w...@earthling.net wrote in message
<6sa3nj$n78$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>The examples of the "great work" of the hate group freemasonry are:
>
>1) Russ Martin Liachoff's forgery of cancel posts resulting in his
> getting KICKED off his ISP.
>
>2) Scotty's use of the racist hate "n" word in the alt-sex-pervert
> newsgroups, all in the name of defending his jesus.
>
>3) Dickie's ventures into the spank-me-&-tie-me-up type newgroups, one
> can only assume that he was there looking for new members.
>
>4) Kurt Alex Skender's post in which he lies on reali...@aol.com, files
> false complaints to AOL against realitymag and incites his hate
> group storm trooper bubba's to join him in filing false complaints.
>
>5) Fuehrer King publishing the flagship hate page of the hate group
> freemasonry.
>
>just to list a few, there are thousands of other such examples
>of the "good works" of the members of the Hate Group freemasonry.


Well Ken, you've got 995 to go. You better get started, don't ya think.

J.E.Carroll
Jefferson #38
Lothrop #21
GLoTexas

Tom Krummell (E. Scrooge, Esq.)

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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Bro. Russ,

Maybe Ken would like to tell us about the 40 nicks he's used on the
various ISPs he's used. Oops, forgot. He's a "christian" so he
"doesn't lie."

Have you noticed that OFLF now responds quite readily to mail addressed
to "ken?"

BTW, how did you do with Bonnie? Any storm damage?

S&F,
Tom Krummell
Roseville, CA
========================
Russ wrote:
>
> x-no-archive: yes


>
> hate_w...@earthling.net wrote:
>
> > 1) Russ Martin Liachoff's forgery of cancel posts resulting in his
> > getting KICKED off his ISP.
>

> Hey, Kenneth. Thanks for remembering me. Thanks for sharing.--
> x-no-archive: yes
> Support the Shriner's Children Hospitals

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minutes. Politicians regard this interesting fact with envy.

Ed King

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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In article <6sa3nj$n78$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, hate wrote:

> The examples of the "great work" of the hate group freemasonry are:

<rehashed drivel customary for Ken and several other nick's uses
snipped to save electrons (and disk space)>

> just to list a few, there are thousands of other such examples
> of the "good works" of the members of the Hate Group freemasonry.

Well, hate, since all we've seen here is you belittling and baiting others,
perhaps you'd like to tell us about some of the good works YOU do in your
daily life.

Come on: don't be shy at all. It would be so nice to hear from you about
the many things that you're involved in....

Oh, and while we're about it, perhaps you could let us know if you've ever
posted using the identity of subnomore? Now remember that this doesn't
require you to divulge ANY personal information whatsoever. Besides, you've
just pointed out all of these horrible things that Masons do (according to
you) so certainly you don't want to be 'yoked' with them - as you are and
will continue to be if you can't just answer a question with a simple yes
or no.

It's so easy, hate: just tell us that you're not subnomore. We'll stop
associating you with all of his foolishness and we'll treat you as someone
totally separate. And you do know, of course, that this is the THIRTY
SECOND time you've been asked this same question by me, don't you. Don't
you think lurkers by now figure out that you're really hiding something?

Not to use what Masons do as an excuse: it's not good.... Let us know, ok?

Ed
http://www.masonicinfo.com Anti-Masonry: Points of View


Kurt

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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hate_w...@earthling.net wrote:
>
> x-no-archive: yes

>
> The examples of the "great work" of the hate group freemasonry are:
>
> 1) Russ Martin Liachoff's forgery of cancel posts resulting in his
> getting KICKED off his ISP.
>
> 2) Scotty's use of the racist hate "n" word in the alt-sex-pervert
> newsgroups, all in the name of defending his jesus.
>
> 3) Dickie's ventures into the spank-me-&-tie-me-up type newgroups, one
> can only assume that he was there looking for new members.
>
> 4) Kurt Alex Skender's post in which he lies on reali...@aol.com, files
> false complaints to AOL against realitymag and incites his hate
> group storm trooper bubba's to join him in filing false complaints.
>
> 5) Fuehrer King publishing the flagship hate page of the hate group
> freemasonry.
>
> just to list a few, there are thousands of other such examples
> of the "good works" of the members of the Hate Group freemasonry.
>
> -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum

And thanks for sharing that.......................

Ed King

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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In article <6se1gs$ki$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, hate wrote:

> In article <VA.00000c1...@lomond.lucerne>,


> edk...@mint.net (Fuehrer King) wrote:
> > In article <6sa3nj$n78$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, hate wrote:
> >

> > > The examples of the "great work" of the hate group freemasonry are:
> >

> > <rehashed drivel customary for Ken and several other nick's uses
> > snipped to save electrons (and disk space)>
>

> the insane babbling of the Fuehrer deleted.
>
> I wonder if this great leader (fuehrer) of the hate group freemasonry
> would care to offer proof of his claims?
>
> Of course not, he is a mason!

Oh, but Ken: the FACTS speak for themselves. Run along and play now....

Ed
http://www.masonicinfo.com


Zuk

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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KKKennie (the duck) is back!

Dave


hate_w...@earthling.net wrote in message
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>

>The examples of the "great work" of the hate group freemasonry are:
>

jon sharp

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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various garbage removed. . .

The so called "Great Work" is a spritual process referred to by hermetic
philosophers and in alchemy it is far from being exclusively masonic.
One cannot define it - one has to attempt it
yours in LVX

JRuble

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>From: hate_w...@earthling.net
>Date: 8/31/98 6:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <6sdt60$sci$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>

Snip

>It will nice to be rid of your type, forever. Amen. excuse me, So mote it be.

Ken, it should be relatively simple for you to be rid of most of us. Just
abandon this news group. I don't think any of us would wear black for long.

SCOTTY

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