FAQ: Is there anger in the UK over the 'cloak of secrecy' for Freemason judges?
Darth Simian
turning in their graves. How long did he evade justice while being
“tried” by judges who had sworn to him their Masonic fealty?
<shakes head>
And remember, the figures quoted are only those who have declared
their membership of this dark and sinister order.
Jack Straw's decision to no longer force applicants for the judiciary
to declare if they are Freemasons was today branded a "disgrace" by a
Labour MP.
Gordon Prentice (Pendle) said there would again be a "cloak of
secrecy" following the move by the Justice Secretary.
Mr Straw (Mason?) said last week that a review had shown no evidence
of "impropriety or malpractice" as a result of a judge being a
Freemason and it would be "disproportionate" to continue with the
practice, introduced in 1998.
The United Grand Lodge of England made representations to ministers in
May and indicated it might seek judicial review of the policy.
At Commons question time today Mr Prentice asked: "Is it not a
disgrace that you have decided to allow judges no longer to have to
declare if they are Freemasons?
"We know that one in 20 of our judges are Freemasons. Why on earth the
cloak of secrecy?"
Mr Straw replied: "There was no secrecy about my announcement, I made
the announcement by way of written ministerial statement last week in
the light of a European Court of Human Rights judgment against the
state of Italy, which was made in 2006, and to which our attention was
drawn by the Grand Lodge of Freemasons.
"It suggested that a continuation of a compulsory register...was
likely to be unlawful. After legal advice I accepted that. It is open
to any judge to declare that they are Freemasons."
He added that there had been "no evidence" of any "unacceptable
behaviour by Freemason judges.
Ministry of Justice figures indicate there are 3,808 judges in England
and Wales and 205 or 5.4 per cent are Freemasons. There are also
29,702 magistrates, of whom 1,900 or 6.4 per cent are Freemasons.
--
Giuseppe Mazzini, a Thirty-Third Degree Mason, founded a group of
revolutionaries called Young Italy. Their goal was to free Italy from
the control of monarchy and the Pope. They succeeded, and Mazzini is
honored as a patriot in Italy. However, in the process, the Mafia was
born. The Young Italy revolutionaries needed money, and they:
"...supported themselves by robbing banks, looting or burning
businesses if protection money was not paid, and kidnapping for
ransom. Throughout Italy the word spread that "Mazzini autorizza
furti, incendi e attentati," meaning, 'Mazzini authorizes theft,
arson, and kidnapping.' This phrase was shortened to the acronym,
M.A.F.I.A. Organized crime was born." (John Daniel, "Scarlet and the
Beast," Vol. I., pages 330-331)
Pope Pompous XVIII
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> Mr Straw replied: "There was no secrecy about my announcement, I made
> the announcement by way of written ministerial statement last week in
> the light of a European Court of Human Rights judgment against the state
> of Italy, which was made in 2006, and to which our attention was drawn
> by the Grand Lodge of Freemasons.
>
> "It suggested that a continuation of a compulsory register...was likely
> to be unlawful.
(FAQ)
Is this the same EHCR which banned crucifixes in Italian schools last
week?
(End of FAQ)
--
"This mortal hatred of the Church, of Christ, and of His Vicar on earth
is not just an outburst of misguided individuals, but rather a systematic
action that proceeds from the principle of Freemasonry: the destruction
of all religion, but especially the Catholic religion" - Fr Maximilian
Kolbe
johnty
<great_sage_equal_of_heav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The victims of the murderous Worshipful Master Kenneth Noye must be
> turning in their graves. How long did he evade justice while being
> “tried” by judges who had sworn to him their Masonic fealty?
> <shakes head>
When Noye murdered a policeman in the grounds of his home, which side
were the Masons on, do you think?
Aaron
<popepomp...@iol.ie> wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:10:54 -0800, Darth Simian wrote:
>>
>> Mr Straw replied: "There was no secrecy about my announcement, I made
>> the announcement by way of written ministerial statement last week in
>> the light of a European Court of Human Rights judgment against the state
>> of Italy, which was made in 2006, and to which our attention was drawn
>> by the Grand Lodge of Freemasons.
>>
>> "It suggested that a continuation of a compulsory register...was likely
>> to be unlawful.
>
>(FAQ)
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>Is this the same EHCR which banned crucifixes in Italian schools last
>week?
If so, they are a great bunch of people! The cultural demographic in
Italy is quickly changing away from Catholicism, and those crucifixes
were highly offensive to many parents. The same rationale would also
prevent Catholic children from being forced to venerate statues of
Buddha, Islamic symbols, Jewish symbols, the Om, or anything else that
violated roman catholic faith. Protection of the minority may seem
silly of even offensive when you are in the majority, but it would be
vital for passing your faith on to your children if you were in the
minority.
In the United States, Roman Catholicism is a minority denomination
within Christianity. Many Protestants go so far as to claim that
Catholics are not Christians, and go even further into making
accusations that I do not think I need to recount here. Most
Protestants find the crucifix offensive and idolatrous, and use an
empty cross instead. Given the anti-Catholic sentiments of many
Protestants, it is possible that, in the future they could adopt a
symbol that is offensive to Catholics. The children of Catholics
would be exposed to this open hostility to their faith unless people
protect their rights. The Dominionist movement among Protestants has
benefited from Catholic involvement in politics. These Dominionists
hold some very anti-Catholic views as well as opposing freedom of
religion. So, maybe you should accept other people's freedom of
religion before some fanatic uses your own words to take away your
freedom to be Catholic and raise your children in your faith.
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