GREG LAMBERT
Jonathan Norburg
> Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for Lambert?
It may well be. Advantage Ministries IS Greg Lambert, to my
limited knowledge.
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Eugene Goldman.·.
<jnor...@wavefront.com> wrote:
*Chuck Easttom wrote:
*
*> Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for Lambert?
*
*It may well be. Advantage Ministries IS Greg Lambert, to my
*limited knowledge.
Amazing. A Martinist Order of one member, a "Ministry" of one
"Minister" and a "world confrence" of (how many was it? 30
participants?)
These guys TALK a good line, but they're like cotton candy. They look
like they have some substance, but try to sink your teeth into them,
and you quickly find out that there is nothing there.
And the residue will rot your teeth.
I gotta go see my dentist.
|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
Who said that?
Brother Gene .*.
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IL. Their IP address is part of a block assigned to and administrated
by Hiway Technologies of Boca Raton, FL. Of more interest, however, is
IBAE, whose administrative contact is one Randy Long of Long &
Associates, a graphic design firm in Durand, IL. Normally, this
information (freely available to a WHOIS query, btw, for those who
might be tempted to think this information was procured through our
special black-ops division) would not be all that interesting, but at
Long & Assoc. wesite (http://www.rdlgraphics.com) there is a page
devoted to their free-of-charge assistance for Christian ministries. I
do hope Mr. Long knows what he's gotten into with Mr. Lambert....
--
Bob James, MM
Madison Lodge No. 5
Madison, WI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 05/10/1999, 14:52:12, Chuck Easttom <chucke...@yahoo.com> wrote
regarding GREG LAMBERT:
> I know it is silly, but from time to time I try to search out an
anti's
> page and engage them in some meaningful dialogue, some of them are
just
> misinformed you know. Well I stumbled on a page called "Advantage
> Ministries" at http://www.ibae.org/html/advm.html And I
emailed
> the link on the page. I suggested to the person that they might want
to
> stop endorsing Greg Lambert in light of his antics on this newsgroup.
> Well a few things happened:
> 1. The person went to great lengths to avoid answering any direct
> question , just like Greg always does
> 2. I recieved an email from Duane Washum (another prominent anti
> mason) who made references to email I had sent to this web page but he
> said "in your recent emails to Greg Lambert"
> 3. The persone emailing me claimed to be named Jay Sparks
> 4. I remmbered Greg's "ministry" was called advantage ministries.
> 5. I remembered that Greg is supposed to be based out of Ohio, and
> so is this Advantage Ministries
> 6. I have tried to get "Jay Sparks" to simply answer whether or
not
> he is indeed Greg Lambert but he will not.
> Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for Lambert?
> --
> Chuck Easttom
> http://www.geocities.com/~chuckeasttom/
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KIV11
You had to know he couldn't really go away. He's like a junkie, always needing
that "Anti Masonic" fix, but being too embarrassed to do it in the open. So,
why not hide behind any persona which becomes convenient?
Me thinks Watson, the game is afoot!
Fraternally,
W George F. Kivowitz
Guiding Light-Olympia Lodge #808
1st Nassau District (Long Island)
Grand Lodge F&AM, State of NY
KIV11
Sorry about the typo on your name in my last post. It's only Monday!
Regards,
MasonTruth
Dear Brother Chuck,
Greg Lambert is to my knowledge "Advantage Ministries".. Seems as if is a front
to make a few bucks since it is obvious a truly Religious man he is not. ...I
sent him a Registered Letter to the Ohio address and the return receipt was
signed by Greg Lambert.. In the past I have corresponded with Duane Washun and
although I feel he has his own unwarranted direction and personal agenda
regarding Masonry he has always been polite...
>Subject: GREG LAMBERT
>From: Chuck Easttom <chucke...@yahoo.com>
>Date: 5/10/99 12:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <7h7ddb$gie$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
>
> I know it is silly, but from time to time I try to search out an anti's
>page and engage them in some meaningful dialogue, some of them are just
>misinformed you know. Well I stumbled on a page called "Advantage
>Ministries" at http://www.ibae.org/html/advm.html And I emailed
>the link on the page. I suggested to the person that they might want to
>stop endorsing Greg Lambert in light of his antics on this newsgroup.
>Well a few things happened:
>
> 1. The person went to great lengths to avoid answering any direct
>question , just like Greg always does
> 2. I recieved an email from Duane Washum (another prominent anti
>mason) who made references to email I had sent to this web page but he
>said "in your recent emails to Greg Lambert"
> 3. The persone emailing me claimed to be named Jay Sparks
> 4. I remmbered Greg's "ministry" was called advantage ministries.
> 5. I remembered that Greg is supposed to be based out of Ohio, and
>so is this Advantage Ministries
> 6. I have tried to get "Jay Sparks" to simply answer whether or not
>he is indeed Greg Lambert but he will not.
>
>Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for Lambert?
>
>--
> Chuck Easttom
>http://www.geocities.com/~chuckeasttom/
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
MasonTruth
Bro. Manny Blanco (Junior Warden)
Moreno Valley Lodge # 804
Moreno Valley, CA
MasonTruth
Sorry, I hit "send too fast.....
I am not sure about Sparks but I am sure the Bro. Ed King will know... People
like Greg use Religion for personal gain and it gives a bad name to Religious
people who are sincere.. They tend to chastise and ridicule those who believe
differently proving themselves to be frauds...God in any Faith teaches love and
respect for others... which rules those guys out right off the bat..
Sincerely & Fraternally
ri...@my-dejanews.com
Jonathan Norburg <jnor...@wavefront.com> wrote:
> Chuck Easttom wrote:
>
> > Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for
Lambert?
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Norburg
> Dumping core is your computers way of saying
> "Here's what's on my mind; what's on yours?"
>
>
You guys are right on. This is Greg Lambert. Well, at least we know
what he is doing with his time lately.
--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas
newsgroup article copyright 1999, all rights reserved by Richard Jackson
RedRopers
<<Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for Lambert?>>
Chuck,
When I called the address that Greg gave, I used the name Greg Lambert. They
seemed to know him well, so I would tend to think that his real name is Greg
Lambert.
Jana
Chuck Easttom
Chuck Easttom <chucke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I know it is silly, but from time to time I try to search out an
anti's
> page and engage them in some meaningful dialogue, some of them are
just
> misinformed you know. Well I stumbled on a page called "Advantage
> Ministries" at http://www.ibae.org/html/advm.html And I
emailed
> the link on the page. I suggested to the person that they might want
to
> stop endorsing Greg Lambert in light of his antics on this newsgroup.
> Well a few things happened:
>
> 1. The person went to great lengths to avoid answering any direct
> question , just like Greg always does
> 2. I recieved an email from Duane Washum (another prominent anti
> mason) who made references to email I had sent to this web page but he
> said "in your recent emails to Greg Lambert"
> 3. The persone emailing me claimed to be named Jay Sparks
> 4. I remmbered Greg's "ministry" was called advantage ministries.
> 5. I remembered that Greg is supposed to be based out of Ohio, and
> so is this Advantage Ministries
> 6. I have tried to get "Jay Sparks" to simply answer whether or
not
> he is indeed Greg Lambert but he will not.
>
>
>
1. Well now "Jay Sparks" is going to great lengths to talk about Greg
Lambert in the third person but despite repeated efforts on my part he
will not simply state "I am not Greg Lambert" This is typical Greg
Lambert style. He does not want to come out and state an outright black
and white undeniable lie. He prefers to use inuendo. Now if I come out
with incontrovertable proof that this is him, he will just say "I never
SAID, it wasnt'...
2. I have used to try to email Greg to get him to privately discuss
some of his lies, no response. Suddenly I get an email from Greg this
morning telling me basically that Jay Sparks will "eat my lunch" and
going to great lenghts to speak of Jay Sparks in the third person but he
refuses to come out and point blank state that he is not Jay Sparks.
3. I emailed the host of the advantage ministries asking about Jay
Sparks, Mr. Randy Long responded and he had never heard of Jay Sparks,
but he does know who Greg Lambert is...
Well thats enough for me, I am convinced, Jay Sparks is Greg Lamberts
newest fake name...
Eugene Goldman.·.
<chucke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
*1. Well now "Jay Sparks" is going to great lengths to talk about Greg
*Lambert in the third person but despite repeated efforts on my part he
*will not simply state "I am not Greg Lambert" This is typical Greg
*Lambert style. He does not want to come out and state an outright black
*and white undeniable lie. He prefers to use inuendo. Now if I come out
*with incontrovertable proof that this is him, he will just say "I never
*SAID, it wasnt'...
I think the term is "plausable denyability". Came into fashion during
the Watergate era.
*2. I have used to try to email Greg to get him to privately discuss
*some of his lies, no response. Suddenly I get an email from Greg this
*morning telling me basically that Jay Sparks will "eat my lunch"
How rude! I mean, he can have my pickle, and I do not mind sharing my
fries, but your whole lunch? The least he could do then would be to
leave the tip.
*and
*going to great lenghts to speak of Jay Sparks in the third person but he
*refuses to come out and point blank state that he is not Jay Sparks.
Well then, I guess he intends to leave the decision up to you.
*3. I emailed the host of the advantage ministries asking about Jay
*Sparks, Mr. Randy Long responded and he had never heard of Jay Sparks,
*but he does know who Greg Lambert is...
I wonder if Jay knows who Greg is. I seem to recall that some
personalities deny knowledge of others in cases like his.
*Well thats enough for me, I am convinced, Jay Sparks is Greg Lamberts
*newest fake name...
HEY! I have it! Greg and Jay are John Galt!
Eugene Goldman.·.
<chucke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
*Gene you can always be counted on for a note of levity,
Not any more. I still do the slight of hand, and the dissapearing
stuff, but the levity hasn't gone well since the broken mirror of '98.
OH! LEVITY, not levitation! Sorry, I made a boo boo.
*but then again with Greg, what else can you do???:)
I know. Isn't it nice of him to keep us amused with his whitty
remarks, and humerous anecdotes?
|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
Who said that?
Brother Gene .*.
http://www.calodges.org/no442
jruble
>
>Well thats enough for me, I am convinced, Jay Sparks is Greg Lamberts
>
>
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You know what the poet said, a rose by any other name, still smells.
SCOTTY
Ed King
> I know it is silly, but from time to time I try to search out an anti's
> page and engage them in some meaningful dialogue, some of them are just
> misinformed you know.
I just write _about_ them! Clearly you have more of a desire to bang your
head into a brick wall than I have. <chuckle>
> Well I stumbled on a page called "Advantage Ministries" at
> http://www.ibae.org/html/advm.html
That's fairly new. I was at the parent site just a couple of months ago
and there was 'nobody home'. Gotta keep watching these folks; they're
tricky.
> And I emailed
> the link on the page. I suggested to the person that they might want to
> stop endorsing Greg Lambert in light of his antics on this newsgroup.
Ah, they love him. Although it is curious that Greg isn't *anywhere* on
the program this year as Bro. Randall has noted.
> Well a few things happened:
>
> 1. The person went to great lengths to avoid answering any direct
> question , just like Greg always does
Why do you think this is unusual for an anti-Mason?
> 2. I recieved an email from Duane Washum (another prominent anti
> mason) who made references to email I had sent to this web page but he
> said "in your recent emails to Greg Lambert"
Funny thing about that, huh? Good ol' Dwayne. Did you know that he - like
our funny little friend Ken Mitchell - has a blood brother who's a Past
Master of his Masonic Lodge (and is also embarrassed about his brother's
behavior)? What is wrong with these people, anyway? Jealousy is a terrible
vice....
> 3. The persone emailing me claimed to be named Jay Sparks
Probably not Lambert, then: he never signed anything. Never signed
messages to me: I was supposed to guess at who he was (a very easy task
with all those HAHAHAHAHAs in there. <weak grin>).
> 4. I remmbered Greg's "ministry" was called advantage ministries.
> 5. I remembered that Greg is supposed to be based out of Ohio, and
> so is this Advantage Ministries
You hit the nail on the head - but in all honesty, I don't think Greg
wrote one single word on that site. It had no spelling errors and was
semi-coherent.
> 6. I have tried to get "Jay Sparks" to simply answer whether or not
> he is indeed Greg Lambert but he will not.
Hmmmmm......... Perhaps he's just trying to not admit that Greg Lambert
is associated with the site in any way these days?
> Well what do you guys think? Is this another phoney name for Lambert?
Hard to tell. The way Greg lies, literally anything is possible.
Fraternally,
Ed King
http://www.masonicinfo.com -- Anti-Masonry: Points of View
Ed King
<Previously material snipped for brevity>
> 3. I emailed the host of the advantage ministries asking about Jay
> Sparks, Mr. Randy Long responded and he had never heard of Jay Sparks,
> but he does know who Greg Lambert is...
>
> Well thats enough for me, I am convinced, Jay Sparks is Greg Lamberts
> newest fake name...
And why does he do such things, one must wonder! How deceitful that man
is. In reality, he's not unlike MANY (perhaps MOST) of the anti-Masons.
And if they'd lie like that about little things like their identity,
certainly one must wonder about *everything* they say.
Looks like you hit this nail right on the head! Great work.
Eugene Goldman.·.
wrote:
*Ah, they love him. Although it is curious that Greg isn't *anywhere* on
*the program this year as Bro. Randall has noted.
Well, not as Greg, no. Maybe under another psudonym? Nancy or
Patricia perhaps?
*Hmmmmm......... Perhaps he's just trying to not admit that Greg Lambert
*is associated with the site in any way these days?
If Greg were associated with you, would you want to admit it?
|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
Who said that?
Brother Gene .*.
http://www.calodges.org/no442
http://www.blackmountainlodge.net
http://www.freemason.org
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