Jahbulon- What does this mean?
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Joshua Rosenblatt
>Can any of you tell me?
Yes.
It's a morph of the Chaldaic, Assyrian and Egyptian word for...
GET A LIFE!
Hiram Abiff
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Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
Why not?
Joshua Rosenblatt
>Joshua Rosenblatt <Jos...@Rosenblatt.com> wrote in
>news:6atgf01abr61tkr80...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 16 Jul 2004 21:30:51 GMT, Hiram Abiff <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>>
>>>Can any of you tell me?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> It's a morph of the Chaldaic, Assyrian and Egyptian word for...
>> GET A LIFE!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
>
>Why not?
You know very well why not, just as I know you aren't truly seeking
the meaning or true significance of the word.
Why I won't personally tell you?
Cause it's a secret.. shhhhh. actually, it's not... You know well
enough that it can be found via many exposes on Masonry both in print
and on the net.
I won't tell you because I took an oath that I wouldn't share certain
information given to me unless to one who I know to also be privy to
that information. You've not demonstrated yourself as a Companion,
rather you've demonstrated yourself to be a troll who spends far too
much time baiting my fellow Masons in alt.freemasonry (how pathetic,
hence the original tongue in cheek response -GET A LIFE).
Normally I just ignore you're antics along with the rest of the
nonsense in this NG, but what can I say.... I'm bored tonight.
Very bored. Hmm, maybe I'll get into my black helicopter and head
over to the Bilderbergers for dinner. Mmm, Chateau De
Rothschild...delicious with fava beans. fe fe fe fe
Joshua D Rosenblatt
Landmark Lodge #442 F&AM
Shekinah Chapter #182 RAM
Mount Horeb Council #34 R&SM
Dieu Le Veut Commandery #45 KT
Wilkes-Barre PA
Hiram Abiff
You illustrate my point about the basic dishonesty of Masons perfectly.
Why do you worship Baal?
Joshua Rosenblatt
>>
>
>You illustrate my point about the basic dishonesty of Masons perfectly.
How?
>
>Why do you worship Baal?
Why would you assume whom/what I worship?
More importantly, why do you spend hours upon hours antagonizing
Freemasons? Have you nothing better to do?
Yawn.
Joshua ben Stanley
Gene Goldman
>
> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
Yes, pretty much any of us can.
> Why not?
Why not what?
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Joe Steve Swick III
Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
Absolutely. I've discussed this at some length here on ALT.FREEMASONRY
(http://tinyurl.com/5aa7x). Feel free to Google for even more details. In
the meantime, here is some reading that might help you straighten out that
bunch in the back of your shorts:
http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/SRpublications/deHoyos-chapter3.htm#i4
http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/SRpublications/deHoyos-chapter3.htm#i5
___Jason___
You illustrate my point about the basic dishonesty of Masons perfectly.
-----
Brother Rosenblatt was merely keeping a confidence. Perhaps such a
distinction is lost on you, but that is fundamentally different than being
dishonest.
___Jason___
Why do you worship Baal?
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I don't. Neither does any other Mason of my acquaintence.
You have been misinformed.
JSW
Alex fisher
>
> Yawn.
>
> Joshua ben Stanley
^^^^^^
next thing you'll be spelling it the Hebrew way... :)
>
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Hiram Abiff
> On 17 Jul 2004 01:47:57 GMT, Hiram Abiff <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>
>>You illustrate my point about the basic dishonesty of Masons perfectly.
>
> How?
>>
>>Why do you worship Baal?
>
> Why would you assume whom/what I worship?
Isn't that where the middle part of Jahbulon comes from?
> More importantly, why do you spend hours upon hours antagonizing
> Freemasons? Have you nothing better to do?
Not really.
> Yawn.
Take a nap, pappy.
> Joshua ben Stanley
Hiram Abiff
@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com:
> Hiram Abiff wrote:
>>
>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
>
> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
But you won't.
>> Why not?
>
> Why not what?
Why not answer the question in the subject line?
Hiram Abiff
news:f4127c68.04071...@posting.google.com:
any of numerous local fertility and nature deities worshipped by ancient
Semitic peoples; the Hebrews considered Baal a false god
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
Word which means "lord, master" (in Modern Hebrew, "husband") that was
applied to the chief god of Canaan; various locations in Canaan had their
patron Baal gods, for example, Baal of Peor and Baal of Hermon.
www.hope.edu/academic/religion/bandstra/RTOT/GLOSSARY/B.HTM
A Canaanite-Phoenician term meaning "lord" or "master," the name applied
to Canaan's most popular fertility god. Worshiped as the power that
caused germination and growth of farm crops, Baal was a serious rival to
Yahweh after the Israelites settled in Palestine and became dependent on
agriculture (Judg. 2:11-14). He is pictured as a god of storm and
rainfall in a contest with the Yahwist Elijah on Mount Carmel (1 Kings
18:20-46).
highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0767429168/student_view0/chapter_
4/glossary.html
meaning "lord," Ball, the god worshiped by the Canaanites and
Phoenicians, was variously known to them as the son of Dagon and the son
of El. He was believed to give fertility to the womb and life-giving rain
to the soil (NIV Study Bible).
inside.georgefox.edu/academic/dept/religion/students/ot_resources/glossar
y.html
Gene (Zippy) Goldman
>Gene Goldman <br_...@pacbell.dot.net> wrote in news:ec0Kc.93121$kU6.49507
>@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> Hiram Abiff wrote:
>>>
>>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
>>
>> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
>
>But you won't.
Already have.
>>> Why not?
>>
>> Why not what?
>
>Why not answer the question in the subject line?
I did.
Joe Steve Swick III
___ Jason___
any of numerous local fertility and nature deities worshipped by ancient
Semitic peoples; the Hebrews considered Baal a false god
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
-----
Now, this is all interesting, but what do you suggest it has to do with
Freemasonry, Jason?
___ Jason___
Word which means "lord, master" (in Modern Hebrew, "husband") that was
applied to the chief god of Canaan; various locations in Canaan had their
patron Baal gods, for example, Baal of Peor and Baal of Hermon.
www.hope.edu/academic/religion/bandstra/RTOT/GLOSSARY/B.HTM
-----
Yes, so it ALSO has the meaning of LORD apart from ANY identification with a
Canaanite deity:
"Although Baal was the name of a Phoenician deity, it is also a Hebrew word
meaning "lord" or "master,"(63) and when it forms part of a name it can be
used to identify Jehovah. A son of David, for example, is called both
Eliada, "God Knows" (2 Samuel 5:16), and Beeliada, "Baal knows" (1
Chronicles 14:7). Another man, who was a friend of David, was named Bealiah
(1 Chronicles 12:5), meaning "Jehovah is Baal" or "Jehovah is Lord."(64)
After winning a victory over the Philistines, David named the location
Baal-Perazim (2 Samuel 5:20; 1 Chronicles 14:11), which means, "Lord of
breaches."
(http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/SRpublications/deHoyos-chapter3.htm#i5).
JSW
Joe Steve Swick III
Why do you worship Baal? <snip> Isn't that where the middle part of Jahbulon
comes from?
----
You seem to assume that "Jahbulon" is some kind of Masonic name for God.
That would be incorrect.
You also seem to assume that Masonry is a religion that encourages the
worship of this deity, but that is also incorrect.
You are hallucinating.
Lay off the ganja, man.
JSW
Hiram Abiff
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> ___Jason___
> Why do you worship Baal? <snip> Isn't that where the middle part of
> Jahbulon comes from?
> ----
>
> You seem to assume that "Jahbulon" is some kind of Masonic name for
> God. That would be incorrect.
What is it, pray tell?
Why can you say what something isn't, but not what it is?
Is this part of masonry's doctrine of deception?
> You also seem to assume that Masonry is a religion that encourages the
> worship of this deity, but that is also incorrect.
> You are hallucinating.
>
> Lay off the ganja, man.
> JSW
>
>
>
Care to have my urine tested?
jlruble
"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
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> "Joe Steve Swick III" <jsw...@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:YiaKc.5311$mL5....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > ___Jason___
> > Why do you worship Baal? <snip> Isn't that where the middle part of
> > Jahbulon comes from?
> > ----
> >
> > You seem to assume that "Jahbulon" is some kind of Masonic name for
> > God. That would be incorrect.
>
>
> What is it, pray tell?
>
> Why can you say what something isn't, but not what it is?
>
> Is this part of masonry's doctrine of deception?
>
>
> > You also seem to assume that Masonry is a religion that encourages the
> > worship of this deity, but that is also incorrect.
> > You are hallucinating.
> >
> > Lay off the ganja, man.
> > JSW
> >
> >
> >
>
> Care to have my urine tested?
>
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Only if you bring me a handful of it. (TDMMDI)
SCOTTY
Hiram Abiff
>
> "Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> news:Xns9529706186832s...@207.14.113.17...
>>
>> Care to have my urine tested?
>>
>> --
>> BeDoper - http://www.bedoper.com/
>
> Only if you bring me a handful of it. (TDMMDI)
>
> SCOTTY
That's pretty freaky, Scotty.
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"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> Can any of you tell me?
Ya spelled it wrong. Ja Bal On. Some have it Ja Bal Om. Jabalon or
Jabalom.
You're welcome.
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Yep, that's gotta throw everybody for a loop.... the idea of "naming"
God and then adjudicating the difference between Good and Evil or
Heaven and Hell, LOL - as if such static places can exist at all,
where nothing changes.
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> >>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
> >>
> >> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
> >
> >But you won't.
>
> Already have.
When?
>
> >>> Why not?
> >>
> >> Why not what?
> >
> >Why not answer the question in the subject line?
>
> I did.
Did what?
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Hiram Abiff
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> "Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> news:Xns9528A804FF0E5s...@207.14.113.17...
>> Can any of you tell me?
>
> Ya spelled it wrong. Ja Bal On. Some have it Ja Bal Om. Jabalon or
> Jabalom.
>
> You're welcome.
Smells like Babylon to me.
Hiram Abiff
news:f4127c68.04071...@posting.google.com:
>> >>>
Who's on Third Degree?
M. Epling
on tree ect...
Also Easter, being from the goddess Eshtar egg, rabbit, her symbols of
fertility.
So then all who practice these two holidays are also connected to the DARK
side!
Unbelievable. Who shot JFK! That is what I want to know.
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"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
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Hiram Abiff
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> Unbelievable. Who shot JFK! That is what I want to know.
Well, wasn't it a Masonic ritual?
j.
phrases to lend credibility,mysticsm and antiquity to itself.Yblawn
may be more kaballistically correct.JAh,Yod,IAO all derive from each
other.The Khazan,King Bulon of the Khazars forced his kingdom into
Judaic conversion to further build his kingdom which later conquered
by the Rus dispersed throughout Europe and ultimately into America the
jews Ashkenazi.Yaldabaoth????????gnostic god of this
world?????????J.B.O.Jahwah Baal Osirus/Jao Bul On.The city on the
hill/the city of the master craftsmen=where do you think Moses went to
up there and who carved those stone tablets of 10 moral precepts=good
empire building tools?Thats why there was so much smoke=all the
blacksmiths and stonemasons up there.Of course they werent called
freemasons back then and it wasnt called judaism either lol it was all
just called bullshit then.
jlruble
SCOTTY
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jlruble
"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> John_B...@bluelink.andover.edu (pass-word protected) wrote in
> news:f4127c68.04071...@posting.google.com:
>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
> >> >
> >> >But you won't.
> >>
> >> Already have.
> >
> > When?
> >
> >>
> >> >>> Why not?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why not what?
> >> >
> >> >Why not answer the question in the subject line?
> >>
> >> I did.
> >
> > Did what?
> > ____________________________
> >
> > With a little work, y'all could rival Abbot & Costello..... Glad to
> > see some good-natured sense of humor in this place.
> >
> > (:=
> >
>
> Who's on Third Degree?
>
> --
> BeDoper - http://www.bedoper.com/
Wrong, I Don't Know is Third Degree, Who is First.
SCOTTY
Hiram Abiff
@posting.google.com:
So Masonry is essentially pagan in nature?
Hiram Abiff
> As my dear departed Mother used to say, "Takes one to know one."
>
> SCOTTY
I assume her education ended after the third grade, then.
Hiram Abiff
What's Second?
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> >> >> >>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But you won't.
> >> >>
> >> >> Already have.
> >> >
> >> > When?
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Why not?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why not what?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Why not answer the question in the subject line?
> >> >>
> >> >> I did.
> >> >
> >> > Did what?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >
>
Second to what or whom? I dont know.......
Alex fisher
> Don't forget that Christmas is nothing more that druid worship, tree, lights
> on tree ect...
>
> Also Easter, being from the goddess Eshtar egg, rabbit, her symbols of
> fertility.
Actually Eostre (which is the Anglo-Saxon form of Ishtar, who was also known as
Astarte and to the Hebrews as Asherah or Astaroth), and it was a hare, not a
rabbit originally.... (Interesting how a female deity became a male demon).
>
> So then all who practice these two holidays are also connected to the DARK
> side!
>
> Unbelievable. Who shot JFK! That is what I want to know.
>
>
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> > Wrong, I Don't Know is Third Degree, Who is First.
> >
> > SCOTTY
>
> What's Second?
Correct. ;-)
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"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
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> "M. Epling" <cplpun...@charter.net> wrote in
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> > Unbelievable. Who shot JFK! That is what I want to know.
>
>
KIV11
>
>> Well, wasn't it a Masonic ritual?
>
>
>Only in NY... ;)
Not funny, Bro. Epling, even here in NY!
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"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
>
> So Masonry is essentially pagan in nature?
Masonry is not a religion. Look, do you regard the Moose Club as a
religious group? You have to believe in a Supreme Being to join that, too.
But there is never anything all that specific about the Supreme Being - just
very simply: DO YOU BELIEVE IN A SB. Yes or no. That's it. No one ever
talks religion in there.
Hmm, I have to wonder these days if there are more Mooses than Masons. Hmm.
The Foole and His Monkey Soon Partied
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> "Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> news:Xns952A8B90B6178s...@207.14.113.17...
>> patr...@yahoo.com (j.) wrote in news:8ab8e871.0407180949.408a5643
>> @posting.google.com:
>
>>
>> So Masonry is essentially pagan in nature?
>
> Masonry is not a religion. Look, do you regard the Moose Club as a
> religious group? You have to believe in a Supreme Being to join that,
> too. But there is never anything all that specific about the Supreme
> Being - just very simply: DO YOU BELIEVE IN A SB. Yes or no. That's
> it. No one ever talks religion in there.
>
> Hmm, I have to wonder these days if there are more Mooses than Masons.
> Hmm.
An organization can be pagan, and not a religion.
An organization can be christian, and not a religion.
Etc.
Why bring Baal into all of this nonsense?
People's Commissar
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>
> Why bring Baal into all of this nonsense?
Baal is not a name. It's a word. It means LORD.
Steve
1168 l[;B; Ba`al {bah'-al}
Meaning: Baal = "lord" n pr m 1) supreme male divinity of the
Phoenicians or Canaanites 2) a Reubenite 3) the son of Jehiel and
grandfather of Saul n pr loc 4) a town of Simeon, probably identical
to Baalath-beer
Steve
>Can any of you tell me?
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/yorkrite.html
They then reveal, the original 'sacred Omnific Word' - 'Jah-Bal-On.'
This is given in low breath and is performed three times by three
lecturers, each taking turns to pronounce a name each:
(1) "Jah" (2) "Bal" (3) "On"
(2) "Jah" (3) "Bal" (1) "On"
(3) "Jah" (1) "Bal" (2) "On."
The candidate is then told that "It is the name of Deity in three
language, viz Chaldee, Hebrew and Syriac. Which is the long lost
Master Mason's Word, and has now become the Grand Omnific Royal Arch
Word" (US Masonic lecture quote).
Freemasonry here, thus, blasphemously unites the God of the Bible -
Jehovah - with the pagan gods of Syria - Baal - and of Egypt - On -
into a man-made anti-scriptural trinity. The Irish lecture explains:
"The names by which the Supreme Being was known to the three leading
nations of antiquity, Chaldean, Syriac and Egyptian:
1. Jah. the Chaldean name of God, and signifies, 'His essence in
Majesty - incomprehensible.' It is also a Hebrew word, signifying, 'I
am and shall be' thereby expressing the actual future and eternal
existence of the Most High.
2. Bal. is a Syriac word which signifies 'Lord or Powerful' also 'Lord
in heaven or on high.'
3. On. is an Egyptian word signifying 'Father of all' as is expressed
in the Lord's prayer."
The Royal Arch lecturer then blasphemously explains, "All the
significations of these words may be thus collected: I am and shall be
Lord in heaven and on high, Father of all" (Irish Lecture).
The Lodge, here, attempts to bundle the true God of the Bible -
Jehovah - together with other false gods into a grand all-embracing
figure who can be accepted by all. This theology is known as
SYNCRENISM, i.e. "all roads lead to God."
Freemasonry has its own inoffensive, politically correct god who is
known as 'the great architect of the universe' (G.A.O.T.U.) or 'the
supreme being.' Masonry boasts that every Mason can approach this god,
regardless of his religion, in the "neutral" atmosphere of the
Lodge-room. In doing so, the divergent brethren unite together in
common worship by prayers, salutations and hymns to this innocuous
being. Masonry argues that this peculiar state of inter-faith harmony
reveals the unique non-sectarian brotherly nature of the Lodge.
Masonic authority, W.L. Wilmshurst states, in 'Masonic Initiation
(1924), "Life in the realm of Spirit is a unity, and for Masonic
seekers the whole world over, there is but one Grand Master, but he
can manifest and deputise through many channels.To the Jewish brother
our science says, Take the Father of the faithful. To the Christian
brother it points to Him upon whose breast lay the beloved disciple.
To the Buddhist it points to the Maitreja of the universal
compasssion; and to the Moslem it points to the Prophet."
God's infallible Word defines the true God of heaven, including His
different names and attributes. It also outlines the manner by which
man must draw close to Him. That is in and through the NAME of God's
dear Son the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE.
The Bible says, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God
and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to
be testified in due time" (1 Timothy 2:5-6).
Craft Masonry is a man-made religion that denies Christ His rightful
place as man's SOLE Redeemer. They also FORBID any mention of the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ during their prayers, praise and worship. We
must therefore ask, who is this abstract being who may be approached
in such an indeterminate manner? It is certainly not the God of
heaven.
Jesus said, in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
How can any Christian accept, by his active participation in Lodge
worship, the adoration of false gods in Lodge prayers and hymns? How
can men who profess Christ join in collective worship with unbelievers
unto a variety of unspecified false gods? This is idolatry.
Choosing an inoffensive title for this union of gods in no way
diminishes this blasphemy. Acts 4:12 says, "Neither is there salvation
in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among
men, whereby we must be saved."
Anywhere the people of God are found meddling with false religion, God
meets out judgement. There is a solemn warning, in Psalm 106:28-36,
for those who partake and/or condone such awful secret abominations
(like Masonry). God says, "They joined themselves also unto Baalpeor,
and ate the sacrifices of the dead. Thus they provoked him to anger
with their inventions: and the plague brake in upon them. They did not
destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them: But were
mingled among the heathen, and learned their works. And they served
their idols: which were a snare unto them."
Scripture therefore expressly instructs Christians to shun and oppose
the encroachments of inter-faith worship unto a neutral undefined
mongrel god. Isaiah 45:21-22 says, "there is no God else beside me; a
just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be
ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none
else." This amazing revelation of the Grand Omnific Sacred Word
creates an important background for the remainder of our study, as it
shows us that the pursuit that the candidate engages on is a foolish
devilish search for a false God. The Chapter then institutes a
symbolic Masonic play in which the candidate partakes in search for
the "Lost Word" among the remains of the first Jewish temple, during
the supposed time period of the rebuilding of the second temple.
The searcher (or candidate) makes his first find, which is a Jewish
arch below which is found a scroll.
The first lecturer then explains, "The discovery you have made is of
the greatest importance. It is no less than the long-lost book of the
holy law. You now see that the world is indebted to Freemasonry for
the preservation of this sacred volume. Had it not been for the
Masonic wisdom and precaution of our Grand Master [Hiram Abiff], this
the only remaining copy of the law, would have been lost at the
destruction of the Temple."
The candidate later receives a jewel of the scroll (copy of the Law)
which is inscribed at the bottom with the motto: 'Nil nisi lavis
deest' or 'nothing but the key is wanting' which, the candidate is
instructed "may be taken in its literal sense."
This is unadulterated Cabalistic teaching i.e. the Scriptures can ONLY
be fully understood by recognising the hidden key or code.
The second find the searcher makes is a second Jewish arch although
this time there is said to be "nothing of consequence" below it.
The third find the searcher make is a third Jewish arch under which
the most significant and crucial Masonic discovery is now made.
The searcher testifies, "We discovered a key-stone of a third arch; on
removing it, the sun, having now gained its meridian height, darted
its rays to the centre. It shone resplendent on a white marble
pedestal, whereon was a plate of gold. On this plate was engraved a
triple triangle, and within the triangles some characters which are
beyond comprehension."
The first lecturer then explains, "These three mysterious words, in a
triangle form, is the long-lost sacred word of the Master Mason, and
is too incomprehensible for individual expression; but in reward for
your industry and zeal, you will now be put in possession of a full
explanation of this Grand Omnific Royal Arch Word."
The first lecturer continues, "In drawing forth the third keystone,
you have obtained the Grand Omnific Word."
The candidate is then honoured with a purple/crimson Royal Arch sash
and apron. Upon the apron is the Triple Tau, which the candidate
learns "is one of the most ancient of emblems; and as Masonry is the
science of sciences, so this emblem may be styled the emblem of
emblems, for it is the grand emblem of Royal Arch Masonry; and its
depth of meaning reaches to the creation of the world, and all that is
therein."
The spiritual application and signification of the third find is then
explained to the candidate in the form of a question and answer.
Q. "Can you describe the grand pedestal?"
A. "It was on a chequered pavement (black and white squares) to
represent the uncertainty of life and the instability of things
terrestrial. It was of perfect white marble, cut into the form of the
altar of incense, being the only true double cube, and thereby, both
in figure and colour, the most perfect emblem of innocence and purity.
On the base of the pedestal is the letter G, which signifies Giblum, a
common name for all Masons who are masters of their business."
As one carefully analyses the incredible detail and significance of
this extra-biblical teaching, one is assuredly forced to conclude that
it is indisputably gross error.
Those who nonchauchantly advance to such error should be reminded of
the solemn biblical fact that it is a grave abomination to alter or
amend the infallible teaching of God's precious Word. Deuteronomy 4:2
solemnly says, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you,
neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the
commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
The first thing we can authoritatively establish, in this involved
investigation, is that the quotation referring to "the Word" employed
here by the Masonic is taken directly verbatim from John's Gospel
chapter 1. Secondly, the "Word" that is employed relates solely to
God's dear Son - the Lord Jesus Christ. The New Testament narrative,
in John 1:1-5, says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with
God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of
men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended
it not."
Verse 10-14 continues, "He was in the world, and the world was made by
him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own
received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of
the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt
among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten
of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
This powerful narrative of itself exposes the deep heresy of the
alternative Masonic false gospel and assuredly nails the lie that "God
is the Word that was lost" and "God is the Word that was found." This
passage shows, in unmistakable language, that "the Word" is Christ. It
reveals the King of Glory in all His marvellous provision, purpose and
power. The reading outlines His eternal pre-existence, powerfully
revealing Him as the ETERNAL Son of God; "The same was in the
beginning with God" (v 2). As such, and contrary to any deceptive
secret society teaching, He could never, in anyway, have been lost -
NOT at Calvary nor at the building of any Jewish Temple.
Whilst, Christ was man of very man, He was also God of very God. Verse
1 succinctly says, "the Word was God." Therefore, as the second person
of the Trinity, He was the eternal Creator of this world." Verse 10
tells us, "the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."
Jesus declared, in His great intercessory petition to His Father, in
John 17:1-5, "glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As
thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal
life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that
they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou
hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the
work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me
with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the
world was."
Here, Christ is again revealed in His Deity, authority and majesty. He
is also shown in His great eternal pre-existence. The Lord outlined,
in John 8:58, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I
am."
Colossians 1:14-17 reveals, salvation is through Christ alone, "In
whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of
sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every
creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and
that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or
dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by
him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things
consist."
As for the Old Testament account of the rebuilding of the second
temple. 2 Chronicles 34:14-16 outlines an unambiguous account of the
discovery of a copy of the law during the reconstruction of the
building, stating, "Hilkiah the priest found a book of the law of the
LORD given by Moses. And Hilkiah answered and said to Shaphan the
scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And
Hilkiah delivered the book to Shaphan. And Shaphan carried the book to
the king, and brought the king word back again, saying, All that was
committed to thy servants, they do it."
The "Royal" Arch candidate is later told, "Now we command you,
brethren, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh
disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For
we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any
man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and
day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we
have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow
us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any
would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some
which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are
busybodies. Now them that are such we command and that with quietness
they work, and eat their own bread" (US wording).
This Masonic teaching may appear familiar to many Christians as it is
taken from the New Testament book of II Thessalonians 3:6-12. However,
the Lodge significantly removes the most-powerful name of the Lord
Jesus Christ from this reading thus hypocritically making the Word of
God of none effect (The Red Lodge forbids any mention of the name of
Christ in its worship). The Lodge here dishonestly appropriates
teaching that pertains solely to the Church of Jesus Christ and
deceitfully applies it to their Masonic membership.
Jesus said of such teachers, in Mark 7:6-13, "Well hath Esaias
prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth
me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do
they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For
laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of
men.Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition,
which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."
II Thessalonians 3:6-12 really reads, "Now we command you, brethren,
IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that ye withdraw yourselves from
every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition
which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow
us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we
eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail
night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not
because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you
to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you,
that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that
there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all,
but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort BY
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that with quietness they work, and eat their
own bread."
Here we see Masonry unashamedly and maliciously corrupting God's
infallible Word. Freemasonry here tampers with the inspired words of
the Apostle Paul and then selectively appropriates them as their own -
once again omitting the all powerful, majestic name our Lord Jesus
Christ.
The Bible commands, however, "Let this mind be in you, which was also
in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery
to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon
him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And
being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became
obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also
hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every
name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in
heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that
every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of
God the Father (Philippians 2:5-11).
Jesus said, in Matthew 10:32-33, "Whosoever therefore shall confess me
before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in
heaven. But WHOSOEVER SHALL DENY ME BEFORE MEN, HIM WILL I ALSO DENY
BEFORE MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN."
Paul of the Apostle under the inspiration of God warned of such an
organisation nearly 2000 years. In 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, he said, "I
fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his
subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that
is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we
have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not
received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well
bear with him."
Verses 13-15 goes unto to say, "For such are false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no
marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as
the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their
works."
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/yorkrite.html
Ed King
I'd concur, Bro. George. Not a laughing matter in any way, manner,
shape or form!
Fraternally,
Ed King
http://www.masonicinfo.com -- Anti-Masonry: Points of View
Internet newsgroup posting. Copyright 2004. All rights reserved.
Alex fisher
> On 16 Jul 2004 21:30:51 GMT, Hiram Abiff <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>
>>Can any of you tell me?
>
> http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/yorkrite.html
> They then reveal, the original 'sacred Omnific Word' - 'Jah-Bal-On.'
>
[340 line sermon snipped]
PLONK!
Joe Steve Swick III
Baal is not God:
----
BAAL is not GOD? Fine, but OTOH, GOD does say that he is your BAAL. See
below, and pay attention..
___Steve___
1168 l[;B; Ba`al {bah'-al}
Meaning: Baal = "lord" n pr m 1) supreme male divinity of the
Phoenicians or Canaanites 2) a Reubenite 3) the son of Jehiel and
grandfather of Saul n pr loc 4) a town of Simeon, probably identical
to Baalath-beer
------
Apparently, Steve, you have failed to Google this group on this topic, or
even read the current thread very carefully. If you had, you would have
found this, which might as well apply to your very narrow selection of how
the word BAAL is used in the Bible:
___JSW___
And actually, [you fail to note] that the word "baal" is also HEBREW,
meaning LORD, or POSSESSOR, and is a name-title sometimes used of the TRUE
GOD in the Bible. <snip> According to Strong's Heb. 1167, the essential
meaning of the word "baal" [bet-ayin-lamed] is "master," "husband," "owner,"
"to have dominion over." According to _Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon of
the Old Testament_, it means: "lord, master, possessor, owner .... lord or
possessor of a thing." (p 130). And, according to _Harris' Theological
Wordbook of the Old Testament_, it means "possess, own, rule over, marry"
(119). That it refers to the God of the Bible is not a matter of dispute.
In Jeremiah 3:14, God states unequivocably: "I am your MASTER (ba'al)." And
in Jeremiah 31:32: "I was a husband (ba'al) to them [the Israelites], says
YHWH." (http://tinyurl.com/6cn9e).
Now, if Google isn't your thing, you should have at least followed the
thread more carefully, because I your false assertion is already dealt with
by me, on the 17th:
___JSW___
Yes, so it ALSO has the meaning of LORD apart from ANY identification with a
Canaanite deity: "Although Baal was the name of a Phoenician deity, it is
also a Hebrew word meaning "lord" or "master,"(63) and when it forms part of
a name it can be used to identify Jehovah. A son of David, for example, is
called both
Eliada, "God Knows" (2 Samuel 5:16), and Beeliada, "Baal knows" (1
Chronicles 14:7). Another man, who was a friend of David, was named Bealiah
(1 Chronicles 12:5), meaning "Jehovah is Baal" or "Jehovah is Lord."(64)
After winning a victory over the Philistines, David named the location
Baal-Perazim (2 Samuel 5:20; 1 Chronicles 14:11), which means, "Lord of
breaches"
(http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/SRpublications/deHoyos-chapter3.htm#i5).
As you can see, you could have saved yourself much looking silly by a simple
Google search.
Cheers,
Joe Steve Swick III, PM
Verity Lodge No. 59 F&AM
Kent, Washington
Joe Steve Swick III
They then reveal, the original 'sacred Omnific Word' - 'Jah-Bal-On.'The
candidate is then told that "It is the name of Deity in three language, viz
Chaldee, Hebrew and Syriac. Which is the long lost Master Mason's Word, and
has now become the Grand Omnific Royal Arch Word" (US Masonic lecture
quote).
In what US Jurisdiction is used/said? Not in any that I know. Quite frankly
it is WRONG on several critical points!
<cut lengthy WATCHY rant>
Steve, you are so wrong, that its hard to know where to start to set ou
right.
LOL.
Steve
Plonk...LOL
You Freemason Prideful people crack me up.
A day of reckoning is coming soon.
Steve
Steve
Almighty, but a Idol that does not exist.
Steve
Steve
Bearer.
Steve
Hammond of Texas
> A day of reckoning is coming soon.
oooOOOOOOooooo...., Threats!
When would "soon" be?
How do you know this?
What form will the reckoning take?
Steve
the brightness of his coming:
GENEVA 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that wicked man be revealed,
whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth, and shall
abolish with the brightness of his coming,
Steve
Joe Steve Swick III
Baal might be what you Freemasons serve, but surely is not God Almighty,
but a Idol that does not exist.
Apparently, you weren't paying attention, so let me give it to you in a
short bit, so that you don't have to think too hard:
In Jeremiah 3:14, God Almighty, Lord of Heaven and Earth states:
"I am your BAAL." And, in Jeremiah 31:32: "I was a BAAL to [the Israelites],
says YHWH." (http://tinyurl.com/6cn9e).
Now, spend a few moments and wrap your head around what I am saying. The
word BAAL by itself merely means LORD or POSSESSOR or HUSBAND, and, IN THE
BIBLE, depending upon the context, may in fact refer to God Almighty.
THE MORAL OF THIS STORY is that God Almighty of the Bible applies this title
to himself, suggesting that the term baal MIGHT NOT ALWAYS refer to a pagan
god, but might in fact be sometimes rightfully applied to Deity as a
name-title. Nowhere in any Masonic ritual is there ANY allusion to any
pagan or Canaanite deity named Ba'al.
Capiche?
Joe Steve Swick III
A day of reckoning is coming soon. <snip> Not a threat from me, Jesus will
come and destroy you Satanist with the brightness of his coming:
GENEVA 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that wicked man be revealed, whom
the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth, and shall abolish with
the brightness of his coming,
----
Wicked man? You mean like the wicked man who bears false witness against
Freemasons, accusing them of worshipping a pagan Canaanite deity named Baal,
or the prevaricators who call them "satanists"? Such wicked lies hurt
innocent people, Steve.
Joe Steve Swick III
They then reveal, the original 'sacred Omnific Word' - 'Jah-Bal-On.'The
candidate is then told that "It is the name of Deity in three language, viz
Chaldee, Hebrew and Syriac. Which is the long lost Master Mason's Word, and
has now become the Grand Omnific Royal Arch Word" (US Masonic lecture
quote).
___JSW___
In what US Jurisdiction is used/said? Not in any that I know. Quite frankly
it is WRONG on several critical points! <cut lengthy WATCHY rant> Steve, you
are so wrong, that its hard to know where to start to set ou right. LOL.
___Steve___
You can't refute, you people worship Lucifer the Fallen one, the Light
Bearer.
----
Uhhh, no, no we don't. But thanks for playing.
The Meaning of Jabulon:
http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/SRpublications/deHoyos-chapter3.htm#i5
Kindest,
Steve
068 hw"hoy> Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
Meaning: Jehovah = "the existing One" 1) the proper name of the one
true God 1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136
Origin: from 01961; TWOT - 484a; n pr dei
Usage: AV - LORD 6510, GOD 4, JEHOVAH 4, variant 1; 6519
Jehovah is not Baal, big difference:
Masons serve Baal, Asteroth and many other Pagan gods, stop twisting
Scripture to fit your Satanic lusts.
Refute complete.
Steve
Steve
Steve
Steve
Steve
David H. Johnson, III
news:ufcLc.9429$Qu5....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> In Jeremiah 3:14, God Almighty, Lord of Heaven and Earth states:
>
> "I am your BAAL." And, in Jeremiah 31:32: "I was a BAAL to [the
Israelites],
> says YHWH." (http://tinyurl.com/6cn9e).
Yeah, but what version of the Bible says that?!?
> THE MORAL OF THIS STORY is that God Almighty of the Bible applies this
title
> to himself, suggesting that the term baal MIGHT NOT ALWAYS refer to a
pagan
> god, but might in fact be sometimes rightfully applied to Deity as a
> name-title. Nowhere in any Masonic ritual is there ANY allusion to any
> pagan or Canaanite deity named Ba'al.
Maybe when you get high enough in Masonry you'll understand.
Hammond of Texas
Okay, so you've answered that question Christians have all been asking
each other, "Who Would Jesus Bomb?", but what about MY questions?
When?
How do you know this? And no, words written in some book don't consitute
an authoritative source. We want substantive proof.
Hammond of Texas
> Yeah, but what version of the Bible says that?!?
BLASPHEMER! Away with thee, wicked deceiver! There is only one Bible,
the true inspired word of God.
:)
Steve
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:53:21 -0700, Hammond of Texas
Steve
And the 1611 KJV is not Inspired, the Geneva Bible came before the
Freemason's Bible and the Geneva Bible is inspired and even exposed
Freemasons as evil doers in 1 Corithians 3:3 in their Footnotes.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geneva_Bible/message/838
Here is an email I sent here a few months ago:
Here is something I have noticed that the 1599 Geneva Footnotes has
and the Sproul 1599 Geneva Footnotes (New Geneva Study Bible) censor
out, in 1 Corinthians 3:3 we see a clear and bold statement about
Freemasonry. I will scan the page out of my 1599 Geneva Bible to prove
it to anyone who has doubts.
1 Corinthians 3
1 And (1) I could not speak unto you, brethren, as unto spiritual
men, but as unto (a) carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
(1) Having declared the worthiness of, heavenly wisdom, and of the
Gospel, and having generally condemned ye blindness of man's mind, now
at length he applieth it particularly to the Corinthians, calling them
carnal, that is, such in whom as yet the flesh prevaileth against the
Spirit. And he bringeth a double testimony of it: first, for that he
had proved them to be such, in so much that he dealt with them no
otherwise than with ignorant men, and such as are almost babes in the
doctrine of godliness: and secondly, because they showed indeed by
these dissensions, which sprang up by reason of the ignorance of the
virtue of the Spirit, and heavenly wisdom, that they had profited very
little or nothing.
(a) He calleth them carnal, which are as yet ignorant: and therefore
to express it the better, he termeth them babes.
2 I gave you milk to drink, and not (b) meat: for ye were not yet (c)
able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
(b) Substantial meat, or strong meat.
(c) To be fed by me with substantial meat: therefore as the
Corinthians grew up in age, so the Apostle nourished them by teaching,
first with milk, then with strong meat, which difference was only but
in the manner of teaching.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and
strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as (d) men?
(d) By the square and compass of man's wit and judgment.
The Square and Compass is most definitely referring to those evil
doers of Freemasonry, here is their symbol, notice the Square and
Compass and the G stands for their great Architect (Lucifer)
Here is Sproul's 1599 Geneva Footnote for 1 Corinthians 3:3 that for
some reason this guy saw fit to bring us an NIV (Modern Perversion)
version of the true footnotes:
(d) Using the tools of man's intellect and judgment.
http://www.reformedreader.org/gbn/gbn1corinthians.htm
Stev...@MailSnare.net
Home Page
http://www.genevabible.org
1599 Geneva Bible Online
1 Corinthians 14:8 And also if the trumpet give an uncertain sound,
who shall prepare himself to battle?
"Let not Geneva be forgotten or despised. Religious liberty owes it
most respect." John Adams, the second president of the United States
Yahoo Group Owner
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Watchmen-on-the-wall/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geneva_Bible/
Steve
Hammond of Texas
> The Bible is the Final Authority, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Says who? YOU? ROTFL...
Ahem... What's that? Oh, the BIBILE says so. Circular logic, my
intellectually challenged friend. Clearly, you have no proof, only your
weird beliefs.
Tell me, do you hear voices?
KIV11
>
>The Bible is the Final Authority, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
Old or New Testament?
George K.
Steve
bryan
> and the G stands for their great Architect (Lucifer)
what 'g'?
Hammond of Texas
responsbility and cease top-posting):
> Keep on Oinking Swine Mason
Oh, Steve. I'm disappointed. Giving up and going so quickly to the
name-calling? What would Jesus do?
M. Epling
> >
> >> Well, wasn't it a Masonic ritual?
> >
> >
> >Only in NY... ;)
>
> Not funny, Bro. Epling, even here in NY!
>
It was a sad event. But what is truly sad, is that the lodge allowed that
kind of thing to happen. There is nothing we can do about that except not
allow it to happen a second time.
With that said, it is better to make humor out of a few idiots, than make
sadness forever on a foolish action.
Besides, it has only happened in NY, and my comment is true.
Masons who make up rituals with guns, and then shoot others by accident,
should never be called masons. That lodge should be closed, and their
membership chastised for allowing something like that to happen period.
I apologize if it offended you, but it is time to get that behind us. The
anti masons are going to use this as a stumbling block for the next 1000
years unless we show that we too are past it.
--
Noble M. Epling
AF&AM #95
Beckley WV
A.A.S.R.-SJ 32*
BENI KEDEM SHRINERS
A.A.O.N.M.S. OF CHARLESTON WV
Steve
wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:27:02 +0000, Steve wrote:
>
>> and the G stands for their great Architect (Lucifer)
>
>what 'g'?
Click on the link and see the G:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geneva_Bible/message/838
Steve
jlruble
lasted until her death at 85.
And her love for her friends and descendents continues forever.
Wanta start an arson war, keep on about my Mamma.
I can get real nasty with a troll that does that.
SCOTTY
"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
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> "jlruble" <jlr...@cox.net> wrote in news:t7zKc.1822$ml.1398@lakeread05:
>
> > As my dear departed Mother used to say, "Takes one to know one."
> >
> > SCOTTY
>
> I assume her education ended after the third grade, then.
>
> > "Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> > news:Xns95299DB9F95E7s...@207.14.113.17...
> >> "jlruble" <jlr...@cox.net> wrote in
> >> news:yrfKc.1410$ml.772@lakeread05:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> >> > news:Xns9529706186832s...@207.14.113.17...
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Care to have my urine tested?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> BeDoper - http://www.bedoper.com/
> >> >
> >> > Only if you bring me a handful of it. (TDMMDI)
> >> >
> >> > SCOTTY
> >>
> >>
> >> That's pretty freaky, Scotty.
> >>
> >> --
> >> BeDoper - http://www.bedoper.com/
> >> Meter Versus Yard -
> >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/3/meterversusyard.htm DJ Manticore -
> >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/manticore.htm
> >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/monteau.htm High-C -
> >> http://www.garageband.com/artist/jasongortician
> >> http://www.soundclick.com/theoriginalhighc
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> BeDoper - http://www.bedoper.com/
> Meter Versus Yard - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/3/meterversusyard.htm
> DJ Manticore - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/manticore.htm
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/monteau.htm
> High-C - http://www.garageband.com/artist/jasongortician
> http://www.soundclick.com/theoriginalhighc
jlruble
"Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> "jlruble" <jlr...@cox.net> wrote in news:uezKc.1823$ml.1214@lakeread05:
>
> >
> > "Hiram Abiff" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> >> John_B...@bluelink.andover.edu (pass-word protected) wrote in
> >> news:f4127c68.04071...@posting.google.com:
> >>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But you won't.
> >> >>
> >> >> Already have.
> >> >
> >> > When?
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Why not?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why not what?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Why not answer the question in the subject line?
> >> >>
> >> >> I did.
> >> >
> >> > Did what?
> >> > ____________________________
> >> >
> >> > With a little work, y'all could rival Abbot & Costello..... Glad to
> >> > see some good-natured sense of humor in this place.
> >> >
> >> > (:=
> >> >
> >>
> >> Who's on Third Degree?> > Wrong, I Don't Know is Third Degree, Who is First.
> >
> > SCOTTY
>
> What's Second?
>
You are correct for once. I'll tell you the rest Tomorrow.
SCOTTY
jlruble
"pass-word protected" <John_B...@bluelink.andover.edu> wrote in message
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> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Can any Mason give me a straight, honest answer?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Yes, pretty much any of us can.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >But you won't.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Already have.
> > >> >
> > >> > When?
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >>> Why not?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Why not what?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Why not answer the question in the subject line?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I did.
> > >> >
> > >> > Did what?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Second to what or whom? I dont know.......
Third Base.
SCOTTY
David H. Johnson, III
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> > >Only in NY... ;)
> > Not funny, Bro. Epling, even here in NY!
> It was a sad event. But what is truly sad, is that the lodge allowed that
> kind of thing to happen. There is nothing we can do about that except not
> allow it to happen a second time.
>
> With that said, it is better to make humor out of a few idiots, than make
> sadness forever on a foolish action.
>
> Besides, it has only happened in NY, and my comment is true.
>
> Masons who make up rituals with guns, and then shoot others by accident,
> should never be called masons. That lodge should be closed, and their
> membership chastised for allowing something like that to happen period.
>
> I apologize if it offended you, but it is time to get that behind us. The
> anti masons are going to use this as a stumbling block for the next 1000
> years unless we show that we too are past it.
WEAK!
bryan
that doesn't exist in english freemasonry.
JB
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What doesn't? The G in the middle of the S&C? Perhaps it depends on
one's ritual but it certainly exists in some. Obviously, it doesn't
stand for Lucifer as I'm sure the little trollete knows really.
John Berry
S.W., Kennington 1381
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People's Commissar
> ___Steve___
> Baal is not God:
> ----
>
> BAAL is not GOD? Fine, but OTOH, GOD does say that he is your BAAL. See
> below, and pay attention..
YOU pay attention, Joe.
How does it FEEL to be jerked around by these people, eh, Joe? How does it
feel to have your words thrown back in your face with them distorted, eh,
Joe?
FEEL FREE to confirm the Masonic creds of the people that spoke for me.
Don't tell me it's not easy. IT IS. DO NOT out those people here - they
have FAMILIES.
>
> ___Steve___
> 1168 l[;B; Ba`al {bah'-al}
> Meaning: Baal = "lord" n pr m 1) supreme male divinity of the
> Phoenicians or Canaanites 2) a Reubenite 3) the son of Jehiel and
> grandfather of Saul n pr loc 4) a town of Simeon, probably identical
> to Baalath-beer
> ------
>
> Apparently, Steve, you have failed to Google this group on this topic,
Like you FAILED to hear whatever I had to say clearly without sieving it
thru your brain and distorting it? How does it feel to have these people
take up YOUR TIME - since you will HAVE to repeat all of what
you just posted again and again and again - for years to come.
Baal is blah blah, Baal is blah blah. Blah blah blah.
(GO REPTILE GO. Continue to BUST their royal (arch) chops.)
You are a man that doesn't listen to the words of SAINT PAUL: You "sit at
the same table" as the obsessive scums that you "pretend" to despise and
want no truck with.
People's Commissar
"Steve" <stev...@mailsnare.net> wrote in message
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> It says "I am your Lord", which the Hebrew word means:
>
> 068 hw"hoy> Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
> Meaning: Jehovah = "the existing One" 1) the proper name of the one
> true God 1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136
> Origin: from 01961; TWOT - 484a; n pr dei
> Usage: AV - LORD 6510, GOD 4, JEHOVAH 4, variant 1; 6519
>
> Jehovah is not Baal, big difference:
>
> Masons serve Baal, Asteroth and many other Pagan gods, stop twisting
> Scripture to fit your Satanic lusts.
>
> Refute complete.
>
> Steve
GO STEVE GO!
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:03:22 GMT, "Joe Steve Swick III"
> <jsw...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >___Steve___
> > Baal might be what you Freemasons serve, but surely is not God Almighty,
> >but a Idol that does not exist.
> >-----
> >
> >Apparently, you weren't paying attention, so let me give it to you in a
> >short bit, so that you don't have to think too hard:
snippity snip.
People's Commissar
"David H. Johnson, III" <no email> wrote in message
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So then, for the pure sake of busting your royal chops: WHY NOT just say
Yod Heh Vod Heh?
Excuse me for being a nuisance here - but I DETEST it when a person says
things that are intended to discredit what two Masons in good standing said
(re me). I detest it, when a pompous, arrogant lout goes and tells me to
HARM MYSELF by doing tummo in the tropics. Let him swallow lye. Let his
flowers wither. Let his wine turn to brine. Let his food rot. May fire
ants attack him through his ears.
Hammond of Texas
>>Click on the link and see the G:
>>
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geneva_Bible/message/838
>
>
> that doesn't exist in english freemasonry.
Oh yes it does. Steve's bible says it does.
People's Commissar
"bryan" <br...@lister.red-dwarf.lan> wrote in message
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>
> > and the G stands for their great Architect (Lucifer)
>
> what 'g'?
The G between the typical symbol there ya go. G for God. G for Geometry. G
for Gnosis.
>
Steve
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:55:23 +0100, "JB" <masoni...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
Steve
Steve
The Masonic View of God
It has been said, that the first sign of heresy starts with how one
defines the nature of God. If one defines God outside of the Biblical
context, than such a definition is considered heretical from a
Christian worldview.
How does Freemasonry define God?
Monotheism is the sole dogma of Freemasonry. Belief in one God is
required of every initiate, but his conception of the Supreme Being is
left to his own interpretation. Freemasonry is not concerned with
theological distinctions. This is the basis of our universality.
Grand Lodge of Indiana, Indiana Monitor & Freemason's Guide, 1993
Edition, page 41
Therefore, if a Mason's concept of God is left to his own
interpretation, than as far as Freemasonry is concern, it doesn't
matter what or who its members believe in just as long as they believe
that He, or it, is one in the same, which again is the basis of
Masonic universality.
So, for example, if a Muslim Mason's view of God comes from the Koran
and a Christian Mason's view of God comes from the Bible, it's okay
because they are still worshiping the same God. If the Koran teaches
that God has no Son, and the Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is the
Son of God, then it stands to reason that it is impossible for both of
them to be worshiping the same God. Yet, Freemasonry would have them
believe that they do.
More importantly, is the Masonic concept of God consistent with the
Bible according to the following passages of Scripture?
Deuteronomy 6:4
Isaiah 45:5
Exodus 20:3
Psalm 96:5
Matthew 28:19
John 1:1-2
I Corinthians 10:19-21
II Corinthians 13:14
Philippians 2:6
Colossian 1:15-17
You will find that the answer is no, because while the Bible does
teach that there is only one God, it teaches that this one God is
triune and made up of three distinct persons, God the Father, God the
Son (Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirit.
The God of the Bible is a jealous God and rightfully doesn't want us
to worship any other god, nor does He want to be worshipped in
addition to other gods (Deuteronomy 32:16). Therefore, Freemasonry is
teaching heresy about the nature of God.
The Dual Meaning of Letter "G" in the Masonic Symbol
"My Brother, we are now in a place representing the Middle Chamber of
King Solomon's Temple. Behold the letter "G" suspended in the East!
It is the initial of Geometry, the first and noblest of sciences, and
the basis on which the superstructure of Freemasonry is erected. By
Geometry we may curiously trace Nature through her various windings to
her most concealed recesses; by it we discover the power, wisdom and
goodness of the Grand Artificer of the Universe, and view with delight
the proportions which compose the vast machine; by it we discover how
the planets move in their respective orbits, and demonstrate their
various revolutions; by it we count for the return of the seasons,
and the variety of scenes which each season displays to the discerning
eye. Numberless worlds are around us, all framed by the same Divine
Artist, which roll through the vast expanse, and are all conducted by
the same unerring law of Nature. The letter G to which your attention
was directed on your passage hither, has a still greater and more
significant meaning. It is the initial and sacred name of God, before
whom all Masons, from the youngest Entered Apprentice who stands in
the Northeast corner of the Lodge, to the Worshipful master who
resides in the East, should most humbly, reverently, and devoutly
bow."
- Pages 18 & 19, Fellow Craft Degree, State of Nevada Ritual, Circa
1986
Canopy Deity
"You have learned that Freemasonry calls God, 'The Great Architect of
the Universe" (G.A.O.T.U.). This is the Freemason's special name for
God, because he is universal. He belongs to all men regardless of
their religious persuasion. All wise men acknowledge His authority. In
his private devotions a Mason will pray to Jehovah, Mohammed, Allah,
Jesus or the Deity of his choice. In a Masonic Lodge, however, the
Mason will find the name of his Deity within the G.A.O.T.U."
- Page 6, The Craft and Its Symbols by Allen E. Roberts
Masonic Worship - A Canopy Deity
In lodge, a Mason may offer his devotions to the Deity he reveres
using the title Great Architect of the Universe, no matter what name
he may use in his private religious worship.
Thus Freemasons worship the Great Architect of the Universe — a symbol
of Deity as named and worshiped in all lodges.
Could a Christian worship a symbol which is supposed to represent a
"generic" God in order to satisfy any Mason's God including but not
limited to Baal, Allah, Ra, Buddha, Jehovah, Vishnu, Lucifer and
Krishna, as well as worship Jesus Christ, and actually be worshipping
only the God of the Bible?
What Freemasonry fails to acknowledge is the fact that the most common
theme throughout Scripture is some form of idolatry. We know from
Scripture-and from common sense-that every person believes something,
everyone worships something or someone. As we study the Bible, we not
only learn about truth, we are given much insight into non-truth, and
into the false systems of belief that people create for themselves in
rebellion against the revelation of God. Freemasonry is such a system.
The question to ask is what insight does any given passage of
Scripture offer concerning the non-biblical world views, beliefs,
values, and practices of, not only Freemasonry, but of our entire
pluralistic, post-Modern society?
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SEX IN THE "G"
The letter "G" figures prominently in Freemasonry. In the lower
degrees, the initiate is told that this letter stands for "God" and
for "Geometry", which the Supreme Architect of the Universe used to
design this wonderful Cosmos. However, occultist, and 33rd Degree
Mason, Arthur Waite, quotes Eliphas Levi [also 33rd Degree], telling
us that the letter "G" stands for Venus, and that Venus' symbol is a
lingam, a stylized phallis. [Masonic author, Arthur Edward Waite, The
Mysteries of Magic: A Digest of the Writings of Eliphas Levi ,
Chicago, , DeLaurence, Scott, and Company, 1909, p. 217]
The greatest Masonic author of all time, Albert Pike, agrees. He
states [page 631-32 in Morals and Dogma ] that the Monad [#1] is male,
and the Duad [#2] is female. Their sexual union produces the Triad
[#3], which is "represented by the letter 'G', the generative
principle". This term, "generative principle", is code for the sex
act.
SEX ACT IN COLUMNS -- BROKEN AND UNBROKEN
Both Freemasonry and the Eastern Star utilize the broken column, a
symbol which contains many levels of meanings. The initiate is told
that the broken column signifies an early death. Later on, the Mason
learns that columns represent gods [Joseph Fort Newton, The Builders:
A Story and Study of Masonry , Cedar Rapids, Iowa, The Torch Press,
1914, p. 9].
However, later on, the Mason learns a different, hidden meaning for
the broken column. "In Egyptian Mythology, Isis is sometimes pictured
weeping over the broken column, which conceals the body of her
husband, Osiris, while behind her stands Horus, or Time, pouring
ambrosia over her hair." Isis was both virgin and mother, so the
'beautiful virgin is Isis weeping. The broken column is the missing
member of Osiris, the Phallus. [Short Talk Bulletin, "The Broken
Column", Feb, 1956, p. 6-7; also Edmond Ronayne, The Master's Carpet
(Mah-Hah-Bone), 1879, p. 387-88, and several other Masonic authors]
You can see Isis weeping over the broken column, while Horus, or Time,
is standing behind her. Horus is proven to be another name for Satan,
and Isis is the consort of Lucifer. What is Isis weeping over? She
has just lost her husband, Osiris, whose body was dismembered,
including his penis, which had been cut into many sections. Albert
Pike wrote about Isis and Osiris, saying they were "the Active and
Passive Principles of the Universe ... commonly symbolized by the
generative parts of man and woman ..." [Morals and Dogma , p. 401]
In seeing how a broken column could represent both the male and female
part, you must focus on the bottom, not the top. The bottom of the
column shows the phallic upright column inserted into the circular
base, which is the symbol of the female vulva. The column is broken,
of course, to symbolize the belief that Osiris' penis had been cut
into many sections.
But Albert Mackey, 33 Degree Masonic author, states that the regular
column is a phallus symbol. "The Phallus was an imitation of the male
generative organ. It was represented usually by a column, was was
surrounded by a circle at the base. [Mackey, A Manual of the Lodge,
1870, p. 56. Mackey also stated this in The Symbolism of Freemasonry
, p. 60] A little later on, we show you the obelisk within the
circle, but for right now, let us go to the female symbol, the circle.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:10:02 GMT, "People's Commissar"
<tjs...@spam.com> wrote:
People's Commissar
"Steve" <stev...@mailsnare.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/yorkrite.html
> They then reveal, the original 'sacred Omnific Word' - 'Jah-Bal-On.'
>
> This is given in low breath and is performed three times by three
> lecturers, each taking turns to pronounce a name each:
>
> (1) "Jah" (2) "Bal" (3) "On"
> (2) "Jah" (3) "Bal" (1) "On"
> (3) "Jah" (1) "Bal" (2) "On."
>
> The candidate is then told that "It is the name of Deity in three
> language, viz Chaldee, Hebrew and Syriac. Which is the long lost
> Master Mason's Word, and has now become the Grand Omnific Royal Arch
> Word" (US Masonic lecture quote).
>
> Freemasonry here, thus, blasphemously unites the God of the Bible -
> Jehovah - with the pagan gods of Syria - Baal - and of Egypt - On -
> into a man-made anti-scriptural trinity. The Irish lecture explains:
> "The names by which the Supreme Being was known to the three leading
> nations of antiquity, Chaldean, Syriac and Egyptian:
>
> 1. Jah. the Chaldean name of God, and signifies, 'His essence in
> Majesty - incomprehensible.' It is also a Hebrew word, signifying, 'I
> am and shall be' thereby expressing the actual future and eternal
> existence of the Most High.
> 2. Bal. is a Syriac word which signifies 'Lord or Powerful' also 'Lord
> in heaven or on high.'
> 3. On. is an Egyptian word signifying 'Father of all' as is expressed
> in the Lord's prayer."
>
> The Royal Arch lecturer then blasphemously explains, "All the
> significations of these words may be thus collected: I am and shall be
> Lord in heaven and on high, Father of all" (Irish Lecture).
>
> The Lodge, here, attempts to bundle the true God of the Bible -
> Jehovah - together with other false gods into a grand all-embracing
> figure who can be accepted by all. This theology is known as
> SYNCRENISM, i.e. "all roads lead to God."
>
> Freemasonry has its own inoffensive, politically correct god who is
> known as 'the great architect of the universe' (G.A.O.T.U.) or 'the
> supreme being.' Masonry boasts that every Mason can approach this god,
> regardless of his religion, in the "neutral" atmosphere of the
> Lodge-room. In doing so, the divergent brethren unite together in
> common worship by prayers, salutations and hymns to this innocuous
> being. Masonry argues that this peculiar state of inter-faith harmony
> reveals the unique non-sectarian brotherly nature of the Lodge.
>
> Masonic authority, W.L. Wilmshurst states, in 'Masonic Initiation
> (1924), "Life in the realm of Spirit is a unity, and for Masonic
> seekers the whole world over, there is but one Grand Master, but he
> can manifest and deputise through many channels.To the Jewish brother
> our science says, Take the Father of the faithful. To the Christian
> brother it points to Him upon whose breast lay the beloved disciple.
> To the Buddhist it points to the Maitreja of the universal
> compasssion; and to the Moslem it points to the Prophet."
What and say OOOPS to that one. BUDDHISTS? ha ha ha. GO Steve, GO!
>
> God's infallible Word defines the true God of heaven, including His
> different names and attributes. It also outlines the manner by which
> man must draw close to Him. That is in and through the NAME of God's
> dear Son the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE.
>
> The Bible says, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God
> and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to
> be testified in due time" (1 Timothy 2:5-6).
>
> Craft Masonry is a man-made religion that denies Christ His rightful
> place as man's SOLE Redeemer. They also FORBID any mention of the name
> of the Lord Jesus Christ during their prayers, praise and worship. We
> must therefore ask, who is this abstract being who may be approached
> in such an indeterminate manner? It is certainly not the God of
> heaven.
>
> Jesus said, in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
> man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
>
> How can any Christian accept, by his active participation in Lodge
> worship, the adoration of false gods in Lodge prayers and hymns? How
> can men who profess Christ join in collective worship with unbelievers
> unto a variety of unspecified false gods? This is idolatry.
>
> Choosing an inoffensive title for this union of gods in no way
> diminishes this blasphemy. Acts 4:12 says, "Neither is there salvation
> in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among
> men, whereby we must be saved."
>
> Anywhere the people of God are found meddling with false religion, God
> meets out judgement. There is a solemn warning, in Psalm 106:28-36,
> for those who partake and/or condone such awful secret abominations
> (like Masonry). God says, "They joined themselves also unto Baalpeor,
> and ate the sacrifices of the dead. Thus they provoked him to anger
> with their inventions: and the plague brake in upon them. They did not
> destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them: But were
> mingled among the heathen, and learned their works. And they served
> their idols: which were a snare unto them."
>
> Scripture therefore expressly instructs Christians to shun and oppose
> the encroachments of inter-faith worship unto a neutral undefined
> mongrel god. Isaiah 45:21-22 says, "there is no God else beside me; a
> just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be
> ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none
> else." This amazing revelation of the Grand Omnific Sacred Word
> creates an important background for the remainder of our study, as it
> shows us that the pursuit that the candidate engages on is a foolish
> devilish search for a false God. The Chapter then institutes a
> symbolic Masonic play in which the candidate partakes in search for
> the "Lost Word" among the remains of the first Jewish temple, during
> the supposed time period of the rebuilding of the second temple.
OH....heh heh. Getting close to something, are ya...
>
> The searcher (or candidate) makes his first find, which is a Jewish
> arch below which is found a scroll.
>
> The first lecturer then explains, "The discovery you have made is of
> the greatest importance. It is no less than the long-lost book of the
> holy law. You now see that the world is indebted to Freemasonry for
> the preservation of this sacred volume. Had it not been for the
> Masonic wisdom and precaution of our Grand Master [Hiram Abiff], this
> the only remaining copy of the law, would have been lost at the
> destruction of the Temple."
>
> The candidate later receives a jewel of the scroll (copy of the Law)
> which is inscribed at the bottom with the motto: 'Nil nisi lavis
> deest' or 'nothing but the key is wanting' which, the candidate is
> instructed "may be taken in its literal sense."
>
> This is unadulterated Cabalistic teaching i.e. the Scriptures can ONLY
> be fully understood by recognising the hidden key or code.
>
> The second find the searcher makes is a second Jewish arch although
> this time there is said to be "nothing of consequence" below it.
>
> The third find the searcher make is a third Jewish arch under which
> the most significant and crucial Masonic discovery is now made.
>
> The searcher testifies, "We discovered a key-stone of a third arch; on
> removing it, the sun, having now gained its meridian height, darted
> its rays to the centre. It shone resplendent on a white marble
> pedestal, whereon was a plate of gold. On this plate was engraved a
> triple triangle, and within the triangles some characters which are
> beyond comprehension."
>
> The first lecturer then explains, "These three mysterious words, in a
> triangle form, is the long-lost sacred word of the Master Mason, and
> is too incomprehensible for individual expression; but in reward for
> your industry and zeal, you will now be put in possession of a full
> explanation of this Grand Omnific Royal Arch Word."
>
> The first lecturer continues, "In drawing forth the third keystone,
> you have obtained the Grand Omnific Word."
>
> The candidate is then honoured with a purple/crimson Royal Arch sash
> and apron. Upon the apron is the Triple Tau, which the candidate
> learns "is one of the most ancient of emblems; and as Masonry is the
> science of sciences, so this emblem may be styled the emblem of
> emblems, for it is the grand emblem of Royal Arch Masonry; and its
> depth of meaning reaches to the creation of the world, and all that is
> therein."
>
> The spiritual application and signification of the third find is then
> explained to the candidate in the form of a question and answer.
>
> Q. "Can you describe the grand pedestal?"
> A. "It was on a chequered pavement (black and white squares) to
> represent the uncertainty of life and the instability of things
> terrestrial. It was of perfect white marble, cut into the form of the
> altar of incense, being the only true double cube, and thereby, both
> in figure and colour, the most perfect emblem of innocence and purity.
> On the base of the pedestal is the letter G, which signifies Giblum, a
> common name for all Masons who are masters of their business."
>
> As one carefully analyses the incredible detail and significance of
> this extra-biblical teaching, one is assuredly forced to conclude that
> it is indisputably gross error.
>
> Those who nonchauchantly advance to such error should be reminded of
> the solemn biblical fact that it is a grave abomination to alter or
> amend the infallible teaching of God's precious Word. Deuteronomy 4:2
> solemnly says, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you,
> neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the
> commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
>
> The first thing we can authoritatively establish, in this involved
> investigation, is that the quotation referring to "the Word" employed
> here by the Masonic is taken directly verbatim from John's Gospel
> chapter 1. Secondly, the "Word" that is employed relates solely to
> God's dear Son - the Lord Jesus Christ. The New Testament narrative,
> in John 1:1-5, says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
> with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with
> God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
> made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of
> men.
INTERESTING, this part.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended
> it not."
Or as a Priest said - that which SAID "let there BE light" was not ITSELF
light. In the beginning was something other than this light. When (Hebrew)
Elohim moved over Bahu - then THERE WAS LIGHT. - or LOGOS.
>
> Verse 10-14 continues, "He was in the world, and the world was made by
> him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own
> received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power
> to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
> Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of
> the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt
> among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten
> of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
>
> This powerful narrative of itself exposes the deep heresy of the
> alternative Masonic false gospel and assuredly nails the lie that "God
> is the Word that was lost" and "God is the Word that was found." This
> passage shows, in unmistakable language, that "the Word" is Christ. It
> reveals the King of Glory in all His marvellous provision, purpose and
> power. The reading outlines His eternal pre-existence, powerfully
> revealing Him as the ETERNAL Son of God; "The same was in the
> beginning with God" (v 2). As such, and contrary to any deceptive
> secret society teaching, He could never, in anyway, have been lost -
> NOT at Calvary nor at the building of any Jewish Temple.
>
> Whilst, Christ was man of very man, He was also God of very God. Verse
> 1 succinctly says, "the Word was God." Therefore, as the second person
> of the Trinity, He was the eternal Creator of this world." Verse 10
> tells us, "the world was made by him, and the world knew him not."
>
> Jesus declared, in His great intercessory petition to His Father, in
> John 17:1-5, "glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As
> thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal
> life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that
> they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou
> hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the
> work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me
> with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the
> world was."
>
> Here, Christ is again revealed in His Deity, authority and majesty. He
> is also shown in His great eternal pre-existence. The Lord outlined,
> in John 8:58, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I
> am."
>
> Colossians 1:14-17 reveals, salvation is through Christ alone, "In
> whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of
> sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every
> creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and
> that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or
> dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by
> him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things
> consist."
>
> As for the Old Testament account of the rebuilding of the second
> temple. 2 Chronicles 34:14-16 outlines an unambiguous account of the
> discovery of a copy of the law during the reconstruction of the
> building, stating, "Hilkiah the priest found a book of the law of the
> LORD given by Moses. And Hilkiah answered and said to Shaphan the
> scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And
> Hilkiah delivered the book to Shaphan. And Shaphan carried the book to
> the king, and brought the king word back again, saying, All that was
> committed to thy servants, they do it."
>
> The "Royal" Arch candidate is later told, "Now we command you,
> brethren, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh
> disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For
> we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any
> man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and
> day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we
> have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow
> us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any
> would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some
> which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are
> busybodies. Now them that are such we command and that with quietness
> they work, and eat their own bread" (US wording).
>
> This Masonic teaching may appear familiar to many Christians as it is
> taken from the New Testament book of II Thessalonians 3:6-12. However,
> the Lodge significantly removes the most-powerful name of the Lord
> Jesus Christ from this reading thus hypocritically making the Word of
> God of none effect (The Red Lodge forbids any mention of the name of
> Christ in its worship). The Lodge here dishonestly appropriates
> teaching that pertains solely to the Church of Jesus Christ and
> deceitfully applies it to their Masonic membership.
>
> Jesus said of such teachers, in Mark 7:6-13, "Well hath Esaias
> prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth
> me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do
> they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For
> laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of
> men.Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition,
> which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."
>
> II Thessalonians 3:6-12 really reads, "Now we command you, brethren,
> IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that ye withdraw yourselves from
> every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition
> which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow
> us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we
> eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail
> night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not
> because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you
> to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you,
> that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that
> there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all,
> but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort BY
> OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that with quietness they work, and eat their
> own bread."
>
> Here we see Masonry unashamedly and maliciously corrupting God's
> infallible Word. Freemasonry here tampers with the inspired words of
> the Apostle Paul and then selectively appropriates them as their own -
> once again omitting the all powerful, majestic name our Lord Jesus
> Christ.
>
> The Bible commands, however, "Let this mind be in you, which was also
> in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery
> to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon
> him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And
> being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became
> obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also
> hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every
> name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in
> heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that
> every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of
> God the Father (Philippians 2:5-11).
>
> Jesus said, in Matthew 10:32-33, "Whosoever therefore shall confess me
> before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in
> heaven. But WHOSOEVER SHALL DENY ME BEFORE MEN, HIM WILL I ALSO DENY
> BEFORE MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN."
>
> Paul of the Apostle under the inspiration of God warned of such an
> organisation nearly 2000 years. In 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, he said, "I
> fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his
> subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that
> is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we
> have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not
> received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well
> bear with him."
>
> Verses 13-15 goes unto to say, "For such are false apostles, deceitful
> workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no
> marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
> Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as
> the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their
> works."
> http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/yorkrite.html
JB
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> That curse goes back on you. You can't curse God's Annointed.
>
>
>
>
Why would God anoint a trollete and how do you know you've been
anointed?
Have you read Mathew 7:15? Seems to suit you sir.
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Joe Steve Swick III
A day of reckoning is coming soon. <snip> Not a threat from me, Jesus will
come and destroy you Satanist with the brightness of his coming:
GENEVA 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that wicked man be revealed, whom
the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth, and shall abolish with
the brightness of his coming,
___JSW___
Wicked man? You mean like the wicked man who bears false witness against
Freemasons, accusing them of worshipping a pagan Canaanite deity named Baal,
or the prevaricators who call them "satanists"? Such wicked lies hurt
innocent people, Steve.
___Steve___
Since when is truth called wicked lies????
----
One day you and I will stand together before the Bar of the Great Jehovah,
where I will stand as a witness against your damnable assertion that I, as a
Freemason, was a satanist or Baal-worshipper. That is a wicked lie, although
some like you would make "good, evil spoken of." I look forward to the
opportunity to stand before you as my accuser, and refute your lies directly
to your face.
A Fraternal organization as broad as Freemasonry will occasionally attract
the scoundrel. While there is little doubt that some Lodges have cared
perhaps less for their public reputations than for their tolerance for
nonsense, and allowed through their doors the occasional man who by personal
constitution ought never to have walked the Masonic pavement, it is UNtrue
that Freemasonry is a religious worship of any kind. Those who fantasize
about boogey-men under their beds or the devil in their washing-machines
might also fantasize about Masons worshipping the Canaanite god Baal, or
Baphomet, or Satan, or some other tomfool kookery, but fantasy is all there
is to this. It is the comic-book "bizzarro version" of Freemasonry, meant to
entertain those who like a good story, and nothing more. The truth is that
Freemasonry does NOT advocate the worship of Satan or Baphomet or Baal, or
any other spook, ghost, demon, devil, or hobgoblin. Rather, it is a
Fraternal organization which teaches and supports Enlightenment philosophy
and ideals, which philosophy with its benificent rays breaks the murky
darkness of ignorance and superstition such as you have displayed here. Its
charitable activities are an extension of its view that one a true gentleman
values his neighbor, is concerned for the well-being of his fellowman, and
should work without compulsion to leave the world in a better place than he
found it. Masonry very existence is based upon the idea of certain universal
laws... "laws of nature that apply to all men, since they are derived from
the constitution of our being," as Montesquieu once said. It is THIS idea
that undergirds Freemasonry's claim to a "universal morality," which it
"veils in allegory and illustrates by symbol."
And unless my words be misconstrued by some dullard with more imagination
than sense, by "Enlightenment philosophy," I do NOT mean whacky conspiratoid
"Illuminati" babble, but rather the philosophy of the Enlightenment Era,
which enthrones reason as its ruling principle. The champions of the
Enlightenment were men like Bacon, Newton, and Locke, of whom Thomas
Jefferson said, "they have laid the foundation for the physical and moral
sciences of modernity," and in his opinion were "the three greatest men that
ever lived, without any exception." Well. I take some exception. :-) I
wonder if you have ever read anything by ANY of these men. Apparently not;
you don't even appear to be that familiar with the Bible.
Now, run along little boy.
Joe Steve Swick III, PM
Verity Lodge No. 59 F&AM
Kent, Washington
Steve
This verse represents the person who is a High Ranking Freemason, you
resist the truth and corrupt the minds of the new suckers that joined
your lodges, reprobates you are, not knowing good from evil.:
GENEVA 2 Timothy 3:8 And as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do
these also resist the truth, men of corrupt minds, reprobate
concerning the faith.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:26:23 +0100, "JB" <masoni...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
>
People's Commissar
> ___Steve___
> A day of reckoning is coming soon. <snip> Not a threat from me, Jesus will
> come and destroy you Satanist with the brightness of his coming:
>
> GENEVA 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that wicked man be revealed,
whom
> the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth, and shall abolish
with
> the brightness of his coming,
>
> Wicked man? You mean like the wicked man who bears false witness against
> Freemasons, accusing them of worshipping a pagan Canaanite deity named
Baal,
> or the prevaricators who call them "satanists"? Such wicked lies hurt
> innocent people, Steve.
Hi Joe, oh, so NICE of you to notice that when you SNICKER at two honorable
Masons whose creds you can very easily check up on - the ones that mention
me clearly, NOT vaguely - pretty much speaking for itself? All that. So
NICE of you to confuse the age requirements - when I made no confusion at
all. So NICE of you to "hmmmm" at the creds of an ELDERLY respectable man,
an Orthodox Jew and Mason - when sitting at the table, so to speak
(forgetting St. Paul's injunctions) with a definite ENEMY of Christ - for
sure. How does it feel?
Now YOU go do tummo and take Rolaids. Eat some fire ants while you're at
it. Drink some lye, too.
I honestly don't see how he is bearing FALSE witness since the WORD is the
LOGOS - and that word was made manifest in JC.
Lemme guess, are you being as deliberately obfuscating as I tend to be on
usenet - when you are asked what Jabalon is? What? Steve doesn't know that
there is a REPLACEMENT word? GASP (I better watch my throat, here). It's
legal in my state to carry a gun, but I'm not so sure about carrying a
sword.....
Shucks man, I tell ya. Sometimes when a person gets himself into a major bad
fix, ya go to help the person out and up from where he got himself planted
and ooops, the skin just comes right off the bones. Ain't life a uh, female
dog.
How does it feel, Joe? You'll be refuting these people 10 years from now.
Welcome to the club, Joe.
Oh, ahem, did you mention "harming innocent people?" yeah, you sure did.
Meditate on that one, Joe.
People's Commissar
"Hammond of Texas" <spam...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> Steve wrote (in his typical anti-social top-poster format):
>
> > Not a threat from me, Jesus will come and destroy you Satanist with
> > the brightness of his coming:
> >
> > GENEVA 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that wicked man be revealed,
> > whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth, and shall
> > abolish with the brightness of his coming,
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:53:49 -0700, Hammond of Texas
> > <spam...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Steve wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>A day of reckoning is coming soon.
> >>
> >>
> >>When would "soon" be?
> >>How do you know this?
> >>What form will the reckoning take?
>
> Okay, so you've answered that question Christians have all been asking
> each other, "Who Would Jesus Bomb?", but what about MY questions?
>
> When?
> How do you know this? And no, words written in some book don't consitute
> an authoritative source. We want substantive proof.
The "some book" happens to be your own GOLDEN LIGHT there, sonny. The
Bible.
People's Commissar
> Steve wrote:
>
> > The Bible is the Final Authority, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Says who? YOU? ROTFL...
>
> Ahem... What's that? Oh, the BIBILE says so. Circular logic, my
> intellectually challenged friend. Clearly, you have no proof, only your
> weird beliefs.
>
You are a Mason and you are saying this? forgive me, I have no idea who the
people are on this newsgroup, you know, the pros and cons. Harumph, I admit
I'm busting chops. Do unto others, and all that. I'm doing right now.
Unto some others....
bryan
> The G stands for the Lucifer the Swine's Light Bearer.
gucifer?
the gevil?
geelzebub?
gold nick?
i know! gatan!
<sigh> i'm confused...
People's Commissar
"KIV11" <ki...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Steve wrote:
>
> >
> >The Bible is the Final Authority, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
>
JC did NOT come to CHANGE the Law! Remember? But things got added to and
qualified, made clearer.
>
> George K.
Joe Steve Swick III
The Bible is the Final Authority, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It certainly is for you, because YOU accept it as such. Others do not. For
them, it is NOT the final authority. Which leads me to speculate that
perhaps each individual has the right to determine what shall be his own
moral compass, within the circle of the universal morality implied by our
equal rights; just as, with the same single qualification, each individual
is ideally accountable to God alone for how he or she acts in relation to
Divine Law as he or she understands it.
Now, feel free to continue with your bibliolatry.
Joe Swick, PM
bryan
> "bryan" <br...@lister.red-dwarf.lan> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.07.20....@lister.red-dwarf.lan...
>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:21:02 +0000, Steve wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:56:17 +0100, bryan
>> > <br...@lister.red-dwarf.lan> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:27:02 +0000, Steve wrote:
>> >>> and the G stands for their great Architect (Lucifer)
>> >>what 'g'?
>> > Click on the link and see the G:
>> >
>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Geneva_Bible/message/838
>> that doesn't exist in english freemasonry.
> What doesn't? The G in the middle of the S&C?
yes. or so i believed before your post! :-)
> Perhaps it depends on one's ritual but it certainly exists in some.
which ones? if it's private, let me know and we'll arrange email.
> Obviously, it doesn't stand for Lucifer as I'm sure the little trollete
> knows really.
i know that scotland's rituals are different and ireland's may be but i
thought that every ritual within england and wales would be the same.
Steve
Oh well, truth is coming every day here from now on.
Steve
JB
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>
> This verse represents the person who is a High Ranking Freemason,
> you resist the truth and corrupt the minds of the new suckers that
> joined your lodges, reprobates you are, not knowing good from
> evil.:
>
> GENEVA 2 Timothy 3:8 And as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so
> do these also resist the truth, men of corrupt minds, reprobate
> concerning the faith.
>
>
>
>
Oh dear! That's not very good now is it? I don't think your
credibility (such as it is) will withstand you not answering my
questions. I'll paraphrase them here for you to answer:
Why would God anoint you and how do you know you've been anointed?
Have you read Mathew 7:15? Seems to suit you sir.
You do feel that you've been personally "anointed" don't you? Just
tell me how this took place.
No on-point answer = no credibility whatsoever.
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Sam Schwarzman
>Not a threat from me, Jesus will come and destroy you Satanist with
>the brightness of his coming:
Sure would be interesting if he was wearing a Masonic ring and apron when he
came!
Sam
Steve
but you sure can say Jabulon, the god you follow which is opposite of
the God of the Bible.
Steve