Do Freemasons Worship Lucifer?
William
Masonic Grand Lodges promote the teaching that Lucifer is the Holy
Spirit.
Downloadable SOURCE DOCUMENTS proving that claim are provided. See
footnotes.
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Do Freemasons worship Lucifer?
Over the years, some people have claimed that Freemasons worship
Lucifer, or Satan. The truth of the matter is that the name Lucifer is
not found in the rituals of the Blue Lodge, or the York Rite. We do not
believe that Lucifer is mentioned by name in the Scottish Rite degrees,
either. However, one of the "Sacred Words" in the17th Degree of the
Scottish Rite is "Abaddon," the angel of the bottomless pit, mentioned
in Revelation 9:11.
Worship does occur in Masonic Lodges. One of the primary purposes of
Freemasonry is worship. That fact is clearly stated in the Declaration
of Principles which is contained on pages 37-39 of the Indiana Monitor
and Freemason's Guide. (To examine the source materials, see
footnotes.) Masons worship a god which they call the Great Architect of
the Universe. The symbol they have chosen to represent their god is the
All Seeing Eye, which the Egyptians used to represent their pagan god,
Osiris. Many Masons are well aware of the pagan connection. It is
clearly stated in a number of Masonic Monitors. An example is found on
page 116 of the Kentucky Monitor.
Since Freemasonry teaches a false plan of salvation, Masons are not
following in the teachings of Jesus Christ. 2 John 1:9 allows us to
know that since they are not following in the teachings of Jesus, they
do not have God. Freemasonry is classic paganism. 1 Corinthians
10:20-21 allows us to know that the sacrifices of pagans are offered to
demons, rather than God. Although we can say with certainty that the
god of Freemasonry is a demon, we do not know specifically which demon
Masons worship in lodge. We simply know that they refer to their demon
as the Great Architect of the Universe, or GAOTU. All demons are under
the leadership of Satan. Therefore, Freemasons cannot avoid worshiping
Satan by proxy. Very few of them realize the facts in this aspect of
Masonic worship. A great many Masons, even some who do not claim to be
Christians, would leave the lodge immediately if the names of Satan, or
Lucifer, were substituted for the GAOTU in Masonic prayers. Satan would
not allow that to occur, because the more effective lie is the one which
is closer to the truth, without being true. The reason that a name
such as the GAOTU is chosen for the object of worship is discussed in
The Men's Club, an essay on the Ex-Masons for Jesus website.
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Do Satanists worship Lucifer?
Many people believe that Satanists worship Lucifer, however Satanists
tell us that such is not the case. Satanist Anton LaVEY wrote The
Satanic Bible and The Satanic Rituals. On the front cover flap of The
Satanic Rituals, LaVEY wrote:
Satanism is a vital philosophy which asks you to take your fate in your
own hands--break the barriers that confine you--sweep aside all that is
smothering you--realize your full innate power. The most important
commandment of Satanism is: Satanism demands study - not worship.
Satan does not need to receive worship to achieve his goals. All he has
to do is to keep a man from following Jesus. Satan knows that anyone
who does not follow in the teachings of Jesus does not have God. (2 John
9)
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How do the Grand Lodges point the way to Lucifer?
Freemasonry demands study also, if one is to become a Master Mason in
fact, as well as in name. The Committee on Masonic Education of the
Grand Lodge of Iowa has written a small booklet which has been adapted
for use by a number of Grand Lodges. The booklet was produced to
encourage the new Mason to study and learn more about Freemasonry, so
that he will do his part to fulfill its mission. The text reads as
follows:
It is safe to say that among the countless thousands who have in the
past been raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason, no one of them
realized at the time the full implications of the ceremony. This clearly
would be impossible. Yet it is vitally important that the deeper
meanings of this degree be understood if one is to become a Master Mason
in fact as well as in name.
Your enjoyment of Freemasonry, its value to you in your future life,
your contribution to the fulfillment of its great mission, will be in
direct proportion to your understanding of its secrets, which, if you
recall the degree through which you have just passed, you do not yet
have and which can only be gained by your own endeavors and the
assistance of your brethren. Your own endeavors will depend entirely on
your devotion to Freemasonry’s great mission of bringing to mankind a
full comprehension of the Brotherhood of all men under the Fatherhood of
one everliving God.
Much has been written of Freemasonry. Probably your own Lodge possesses
a library of books telling of the history of Freemasonry and treating of
its philosophy, symbolism, and jurisprudence. These books are at your
disposal at all times and there are many others that you may purchase
for study in your own home.
There are also many magazines on the subject. Your own Grand Lodge
publishes a monthly magazine, The Indiana Freemason. Recognized as one
of the very best Masonic publications now available, The Indiana
Freemason will be sent to you for only a few cents per issue. Thus you
can learn more and more about Masonry if you will--but you yourself must
furnish the will.
This booklet is only an introduction to the great field of Masonic
learning an invitation to you to enter that field for your own pleasure
and profit. We hope it will provide a starting point from which you will
go on and on in a search for Masonic light. Your efforts will be richly
rewarded.
(The Master Mason, Grand Lodge of Indiana, text from pages 2,3,4)
Since Grand Lodges stress the importance of a Masonic education, and
they recommend reading Masonic publications as the most effective means,
we will take a look at Masonic literature and expose some of "the deeper
things of the craft." Beginning with Grand Lodge documents, we will
establish the connections between Freemasonry and Lucifer. The Mason
who reads Masonic literature could uncover the connections as easily as
we have.
Please Note:
We do not recommend discussing the connections between Satanism and
Freemasonry with a Mason, in an attempt to lead him from the lodge. You
will not be given a good hearing. The conversation will likely end
before you have documented the connections. Most Masons are not aware
of the connection and will be offended by your approach. We present
this material here, that you might know that this is a spiritual battle.
Paul wrote:
Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the
devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but
against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this
dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly
realms. (Ephesians 6:11-12)
Having said that, we know that Masons will find this page and be
offended by it. We fully believe that it is of little significance
that we offend them with the truth. What is of major significance is
that they continue to offend God by practicing Freemasonry. Most Masons
who read the information presented here will not admit that it is true.
Some will send us Email telling us that we don't know what we are
talking about. If that were true, how could we provide the source
documents for the quotes which follow to verify our claims?
We make the following offer to Masons: If any of you can find any
significant error in the material which follows, we will remove the
entire web site from the internet. In order to "claim the prize," you
must PROVE a significant error. Simply stating that we are wrong, when
we have provided the evidence, (the source documents are downloadable)
will only make you look foolish. After you have considered the
evidence, and you can't prove it wrong, we suggest you ask yourself a
few questions:
When I stand before Jesus Christ on judgment day, will He believe that I
was not aware of the connections between Freemasonry and Satanism?"
Can a Christian knowingly remain a member of an organization which lifts
up Lucifer, without denying Jesus Christ? What will Jesus say? Who
else's opinion is going to matter?
You might ponder Matthew 7:21-23, Matthew 10:32-33, 1 Corinthians
10:20-22, 2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1, 1 John 1:5-2:6, 1 John 4:4-6 and 2
John 9. It is your soul which is on the line.
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Establishing the connection from the Grand Lodges to Lucifer
Grand Lodges are the authorities of Freemasonry. Grand Lodges recommend
that Masons read Masonic literature that they might realize all that
Freemasonry holds for them. While encouraging the membership to study,
Masonic leadership knows that the majority will not. The man who does
begin to study Masonic literature might begin by reading his Masonic
Monitor. A statement contained in the Indiana Monitor and Freemason's
Guide recommends a Masonic book known as The Builders, with the words:
WHEN IS A MAN A MASON? The following was written by Brother Dr. Joseph
Fort Newton, as the closing paragraph of his widely read book “The
Builders.” It bids fair to become a Masonic classic. . . . (Indiana
Monitor and Freemason's Guide, page 172)
The Builders is an especially good book with which to start a study of
Freemasonry. Henry Wilson Coil stated that The Builders was written at
the express request of the Grand Lodge of Iowa. Coil states that the
book is in widespread use among Masons. He wrote:
Dr. Newton was an active Freemason and lectured widely to lodges in
Iowa, delivering especially a lecture called The Men’s House. At the
request of the Grand Lodge of Iowa, he wrote The Builders, a copy of
which was presented to every candidate raised in that State. It has also
become one of the most widely read Masonic books of modern times. It has
been translated into several foreign languages and, after the first
edition in 1914, it appeared in editions as follows: 1915, 1916, 1920,
1921, 1922, 1924, and 1926. A revised edition was published in 1930,
1945, and 1946, and a revised and enlarged edition was issued in 1951
(315 pages), . . . (Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia, page 445)
The book is currently available from Masonic sources. The publisher
described the book in a recent catalog as "The outstanding classic in
Masonic literature of all times. Many Grand Lodges present a copy to
each newly raised Mason."
On page 57 of the builders, in the chapter entitled The Secret Doctrine,
and continuing through page 59, is a glowing tribute to Arthur Edward
Waite. It contains the following:
Perhaps the greatest student in this field of esoteric teaching and
method, certainly the greatest now living is Arthur Edward Waite, to
whom it is a pleasure to pay tribute. (The Builders, page 57)
Speaking of Waite's books, Newton wrote:
And the result is a series of volumes noble in form, united in aim,
unique in wealth of revealing beauty, and of unequalled worth. Beginning
as far back as 1886, Waite issued his study of the Mysteries of Magic, a
digest of the writings of Eliphas Levi, to whom Albert Pike was more
indebted than he let us know. (The Builders, page 59)
The Mysteries of Magic contains the following on page 428:
What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of
Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil, The intellectual
Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the Paraclete, it
is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of
universal magnetism.
To personify evil and exalt it into an intelligence which is the rival
of God, into a being which can understand but love no more-this is a
monstrous fiction. To believe that God permits this evil intelligence to
deceive and destroy his feeble creatures is to make God more wicked than
the devil. By depriving the devil of the possibility of love and
repentance, God forces him to do evil. Moreover a spirit of error and
falsehood can only be a folly which thinks, nor does it deserve indeed
the name of spirit. The devil is God’s antithesis, and if we define God
as He who is we must define His opposite as he who is not. (The
Mysteries of Magic, page 428)
Masonic literature, such as this work of Eliphas Levi and Arthur Edward
Waite, often does not contain what Christians would consider a
conventional understanding of Lucifer, or the devil. This work
declares Lucifer to be God, if we view the statements from the
perspective of someone who believes in the Trinity. Levi and Waite have
blasphemed the Holy Spirit. The Reverend Dr. Joseph Fort Newton has
commended them for it. Notice that they claim also that the devil does
not exist. Masonic literature does not embrace a conventional
understanding of Jesus, God, the Holy Spirit, or Satan.
We have linked the Grand Lodges of Iowa and Indiana to a book which
clearly states that Lucifer is the Holy Spirit.
Notice the path here. It does not involve the "higher degrees" of
Freemasonry.
The path begins with the Grand Lodges, which promote The Builders.
The Builders points to The Mysteries of Magic, which states that
Lucifer is God.
The path from the Grand Lodges to Luciferianism and/or Satanism is quite
short.
Many Freemasons would dispute the fact that Freemasonry is Satanic,
claiming that Lucifer is not Satan, or the devil. They often point out
that the Roman name, Lucifer, appears in the KJV translation of Isaiah
14:12. The original text is Hebrew and does not contain the Roman name,
Lucifer. That is true. We have heard this defense from so many
Freemasons that it seems obvious that the argument is being taught
within the Masonic system, as a defense of Masonic literature which
lifts up Lucifer. Some Masons we have debated have considered Lucifer
to be one of the "good guys." Obviously, Levi, Waite and Pike thought
so. Pike wrote on page 321 of Morals and Dogma that, "Lucifer is the
Light Bearer." Freemasonry is said to be a search after light.
Grand Lodges cannot directly tell Freemasons that Lucifer is God without
scaring a lot of them off before they are sufficiently ensnared. Grand
Lodges obviously want their members to find this material, yet they also
want to be able to claim, "We have never taught any such thing." When
the documentation is on the table, such denials are seen to be just
another Masonic lie.
Masons should ask themselves why they would remain a member of an
organization which promotes literature which declares Lucifer to be God?
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What impact does this have on the church?
The Bible states:
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath
not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the
Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this
doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John
9-11)
By allowing Masons to be members of the congregation, the other members
have a share in the evil work of Freemasonry. Satan is served and he
has a legitimate charge to bring against the church. Freemasonry is a
malignant growth which Jesus does not want in His church. The seven
letters to the churches in the book of Revelation reveal that God will
hold the church responsible not only for what it does, but also for what
it tolerates. Did you ever wonder why you are not seeing revival?
The Reverend Dr. Joseph Fort Newton, the man whose book pointed to The
Mysteries of Magic, was both a Mason and the pastor of a church. The
Mysteries of Magic declares that Lucifer is God. Newton declared the
words in the works of Arthur Edward Waite to be "noble in form, united
in aim, unique in wealth of revealing beauty, and of unequalled worth."
Newton knew enough about Masonic literature to know that Albert Pike had
borrowed from the writings of Eliphas Levi when he wrote Morals and
Dogma. That fact demonstrates that Newton knew the literature well.
One of Waite's books contains four pages of instructions to conjure
Lucifer. We will not be placing that on the site, as we would not want
to enable anyone to try it. With Masons, you never know how far into
the pit they are leaning. Who can tell which member of your
congregation they will ensnare next? Who is to stop them from going
after your brother, your son, or your grandson? Fortunately, it is much
easier to keep a man out of the lodge by talking to him before he joins
than it is to get him out once they have him ensnared. If men know the
truth about Freemasonry, they usually won't join the lodge.
The Reverend Dr. Newton obviously knew that Freemasonry was incompatible
with Christianity, yet we sincerely doubt that he would have admitted
that he was not a genuine Christian. If he were really a Christian, why
would he have praised the works of Levi and Waite? You should not
expect any Mason who is standing in the pulpit to admit that he is a
phony. But if he won't repent and renounce Freemasonry when confronted
with the facts, can he be the genuine article?
Is your pastor a Mason? If so, part of his "ministry" is to maintain
that a man can be both a Christian and a Mason. Are you contributing to
his salary, or otherwise funding his "ministry?" That is the most
effective way to say Godspeed to him. Don't share in his evil deeds.
Feed the poor instead.
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--
William
KIV11
article. Take this BS somewhere else.
Free Will
KIV11 <ki...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990828213442...@ng-fc1.aol.com...
> Get lost fool! Your evidence is about as factual as st. john's NY Times
> article. Take this BS somewhere else.
Since all of what William is writing is both factual and true I suggest you
really look deep into your heart. But since it seems from your replies that
you probably didn't finish the 6th grade why don't you continue to believe
the masonic propaganda and then when you stand before the GREAT WHITE THRONE
OF JUDGEMENT see just how far your little apron will get you.
KIV11
>But since it seems from your replies that
>you probably didn't finish the 6th grade
Another great comeback from the dark side. Nothing like changing topics by
making personal attacks.
I won't bore you with my academic credentials, you probably wouldn't understand
what they mean, so just keep up the good work promoting Masonry by showing how
stupid the anti-Masonic faction is!
Christopher Harris
Being a Mason does not get me into Heaven. Nor does my Apron have some secret
powers of making God let me into Heaven. As a Christian I believe that
believing Jesus to be God incarnate and living the lifestyle he taught is the
way into Heaven, not by works, baptism or any other way. (though Baptism is an
outward sign of the inward change). My white apron reminds me of that purity
of life and conduct that I need to continually live as a Christian and a Mason.
By living that life I practice what Christianity and Masonry teach.
Chris Harris, MPS
McDonald Lodge # 324 AF & AM Independence, Missouri
(S.W. elect & Education Officer)
York Rite RAM RSM KT; York Rite College; 32° AASR (SJ); Order of True Kindred,
Shrine; Highlander Clan # 1. Hillbilly Clan # 124; O.R.C.O.M.O.T. Shrine Club.
brain...@my-deja.com
Which quote was false? Have you actualy read any of the literature
William quoted?
In article <19990828213442...@ng-fc1.aol.com>,
ki...@aol.com (KIV11) wrote:
> Get lost fool! Your evidence is about as factual as st. john's NY
Times
> article. Take this BS somewhere else.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
brain...@my-deja.com
In article <19990829161815...@ng-fm1.aol.com>,
ki...@aol.com (KIV11) wrote:
> Free Will wrote:
>
> >But since it seems from your replies that
> >you probably didn't finish the 6th grade
>
> Another great comeback from the dark side. Nothing like changing
topics by
> making personal attacks.
You must be on the dark side too. You were the first to make a personal
when you called William (I'm asuming William is Free Will) a fool.
>
> I won't bore you with my academic credentials, you probably wouldn't
understand
> what they mean, so just keep up the good work promoting Masonry by
showing how
> stupid the anti-Masonic faction is!
>
>
Ted Berry
William <Jus...@jiwalu.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Masonic Grand Lodges promote the teaching that Lucifer is the Holy
> Spirit.
>
>
No, it doesn't.
> The most important
> commandment of Satanism is: Satanism demands study - not worship.
>
Attendance at college and university demands study - not worship. Is
matriculation Satanic as well?
--
Ted Berry 32' PSD
Benjamin B. French Lodge #15 Washington DC
Albert Pike Consistory, etc. Valley of DC
Eastern Star Lodge, Rehoboth, Mass
Ted Berry
"Free Will" <emfj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Since all of what William is writing is both factual and true I
suggest you
> really look deep into your heart.
Free Will,
Yours is an interesting choice of names. Certainly you have a pun in
there that you a Free Will as in "Free William" who is being persecuted
by those "stinking Masons."
Yet the choice of this name may be deeper. There are those who have
posted against Freemasonry in this NG who would say the exercise of
free will in man has its origins in Satan.
For instance, the first act of free will may have been tasting of the
Tree of Knowledge, which has been labeled the original sin. The
original sin of the exercise of free will.
CAPT Sel. Glen Cook
MasonTruth
>From: "Free Will" emfj...@yahoo.com
>Date: Sun, 29 August 1999 03:11 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7qc1d8$h9a$2...@news3.infoave.net>
>
>
>Since all of what William is writing is both factual and true I suggest you
>really look deep into your heart. But since it seems from your replies that
>you probably didn't finish the 6th grade why don't you continue to believe
>the masonic propaganda and then when you stand before the GREAT WHITE THRONE
>OF JUDGEMENT see just how far your little apron will get you.
Dear Sir, while I would like to give your post a bit of credibility I cannot
because you do not back it up with any proof.. Please furnish said proof!
Respectfully
MasonTruth
Bro. Manny Blanco (Junior Warden)
Moreno Valley Lodge # 804
Moreno Valley, CA
brain...@my-deja.com
Bill Knight
>...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be false.............
Any decent logic teacher can explain, in terms even the most simple
minded student can grasp, the fallacy involved in attempting to prove
a negative.
Get thee behind me troll.
--
Bill Knight - Master Mason (www.fbkltd.com/knight)
Vista lodge #687 (www.vista-masons.org)
Vista, California
"The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there remains on earth one wrong left unrighted."
-- C.S. Kingsley
Mike Restivo
>
> ...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be false.............
>
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Nonsense; I refuted that falsehood several times over the years. What
article are you referencing? Cite it that I may refute it point by
point. Neither Freemasonry nor Freemasons worship Lucifer.
† Mike Restivo
Ted Berry
brain...@my-deja.com wrote:
> ...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be
false.............
>
What type of proof would you find acceptable to refute this article?
--
Ted Berry 32' PSD
Benjamin B. French Lodge #15 Washington DC
Albert Pike Consistory, etc. Valley of DC
Eastern Star Lodge, Rehoboth, Mass
brain...@my-deja.com
Mike Restivo <mtronicsREM...@pathcom.com> wrote:
> brain...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > ...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be
false.............
> >
> article are you referencing? Cite it that I may refute it point by
> point. Neither Freemasonry nor Freemasons worship Lucifer.
>
>
>>>>>This is the article I am refering to:
The Mysteries of Magic contains the following on page 428:
"What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of
Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil, The intellectual
Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the Paraclete, it
is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of
universal magnetism.
To personify evil and exalt it into an intelligence which is the rival
of God, into a being which can understand but love no more-this is a
monstrous fiction. To believe that God permits this evil intelligence to
deceive and destroy his feeble creatures is to make God more wicked than
the devil. By depriving the devil of the possibility of love and
repentance, God forces him to do evil. Moreover a spirit of error and
falsehood can only be a folly which thinks, nor does it deserve indeed
the name of spirit. The devil is Godís antithesis, and if we define God
as He who is we must define His opposite as he who is not." (The
Mysteries of Magic, page 428)
Now I know every Mason is intitled to believe what he wants when it
comes to the identity of The Great Architect of the Universe, but
apparently the Freemason who wrote this book worships Lucifer, or at
least considers him to be a good guy. There are other quotes I could try
dig up ,by Albert Pike, a well respected Freemason. Albert Pike seemed
to have felt the same way on the subject of Lucifer. So There were at
least two Freemasons who worshiped Lucifer.
Mike Restivo
>
> In article <37D7328D...@pathcom.com>,
> Mike Restivo <mtronicsREM...@pathcom.com> wrote:
> > brain...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > ...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be
> false.............
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> >
> > Nonsense; I refuted that falsehood several times over the years. What
> > article are you referencing? Cite it that I may refute it point by
> > point. Neither Freemasonry nor Freemasons worship Lucifer.
> >
> >
> >>>>>This is the article I am refering to:
>
>
I have books by similar names, but not that one, who is the author?
> "What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of
> Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil, The intellectual
> Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the Paraclete, it
> is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of
> universal magnetism.
Equating Lucifer with the Holy Spirit is nonsensical. According to
Trinitarian doctrine, the Holy Spirit is a person of God. Lucifer, by
any metric is a creation of God. The concept is illogical and
self-contradictory even in heretical terms.
This has nothing to do with Freemasonry or occultism for that matter,
but with insupportable fiction. In the 1970's, The Process Church of
the Final Judgement taught that Lucifer and Jesus Christ are brothers.
> To personify evil and exalt it into an intelligence which is the rival
> of God, into a being which can understand but love no more-this is a
> monstrous fiction. To believe that God permits this evil intelligence to
> deceive and destroy his feeble creatures is to make God more wicked than
> the devil.
It is Biblically evident, however, that God uses satan as an agent both
of testing and recompense for sin. What happened to Lucifer? We have
jumped to a new topic completely. This also has nothing whatever to do
with Freemasonry.
By depriving the devil of the possibility of love and
> repentance, God forces him to do evil.
Nonsense. Evil is precisely the concern embraced by the devil in
repudiation of God: "Evil be thou my God." God does no depriving. Evil
is a state of self-deprivation from God and His attributes, like love.
Moreover a spirit of error and
> falsehood can only be a folly which thinks, nor does it deserve indeed
> the name of spirit. The devil is God’s antithesis, and if we define God
> as He who is we must define His opposite as he who is not." (The
> Mysteries of Magic, page 428)
The devil/satan/"Lucifer" is a created being subordinate by definition
to God, not God's equal, in Christian terms.
These unfounded and inconsistent speculations are irrelevant to
Freemasonry.
> Now I know every Mason is intitled to believe what he wants when it
> comes to the identity of The Great Architect of the Universe, but
> apparently the Freemason who wrote this book worships Lucifer, or at
> least considers him to be a good guy.
There are other quotes I could try
> dig up ,by Albert Pike, a well respected Freemason. Albert Pike seemed
> to have felt the same way on the subject of Lucifer. So There were at
> least two Freemasons who worshiped Lucifer.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Here are some of my letters on this and related issues:
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From:
Mike Restivo <web...@pobox.com>
12/10/98 7:38 PM
Subject:
Re: CHARLES Albert Pike
Newsgroups:
alt.freemasonry
Agent-X wrote:
>
> How come ... Charles Albert Pike said during a speach
> before members of the highest lodges:
> "Lucifer is God. Unfortunately Adonai is also God.
> The absolute can only exist of two gods. Lucifer,
> the God of Good, fights for humanity against
> Adonai, God of darkness and evil."
> (Quote from De La Rive: La Femme et l'enfants dans
> la France Maconnerie Universelle, page 558, and
> Queensborough' Occult Theocracy, page 220, 221)
>
> And then there are still persons who claim masonry
> is not a religion ... huh?
>
> A-X
Pike did not write the attributed quotes. They are well exposed
hoaxes. I might add that the representation of Adonai as an evil god is
contrary to his written expositions upon same, in his book, _Morals and
Dogma_.
In a few sections, "Adonai" is described as referring to God, but what
god? Does it refer to, as alleged, Pike's conception of an evil god? I
hasten to add that although not satisfying in and of themselves, in
context, no dualism is involved, which mitigates against the claim of a
dual god doctrine held by Pike. Moreover, from page 104, the middle
part of the same book, Pike gives his interpretation of a Kabbalistic
seal. Whether the following explanation originates with Pike is
immaterial to the point at hand. Pike agrees with it, at least to its
plausibility:
... "Iahaveh, Adonai and Agla. Above the first is written in Latin,
Formatio, above the second, Reformatio, and above the third,
Transformatio. So Creation is ascribed to the Father, Redemption or
reformation to the Son, and Sanctification or Transformation to the Holy
Spirit. ... Adonai is the realization of this dogma in the Human Form,
in the Visible Lord, who is the Son of God or the perfect Man..."
Now the interpretation is not Kabbalistically kosher, as it were, as
"Yeheshua", not "Adonai", would have had to have been employed for the
Christian Trinitarian explanation to hold, but not only does Pike give
no evil attribution to "Adonai", but extends its meaning as a synonym of
the name of the Judeo-Christian God, to that of the name of the Logos,
the Word made flesh, Jesus Christ.
† Mike Restivo
http://www.pathcom.com/~mtronics/anticult/
(1. Anti-cult awareness essays, 2. Pro-Freemasonry Essays, 3. Pro-Jewish
and pro-Christian essays in the Judaica section. All essays and related
articles are from the Bible-believing Christian perspective.)
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From:
Mike Restivo <web...@pobox.com>
12/18/98 3:49 PM
Subject:
Anti-Jewish/Anti-Masonry Hate Exposed and Refuted
Newsgroups:
alt.freemasonry
Here follows my interlinear critique and exposure of Mr. Prankerd's hate
propaganda against Jews and Masons published at his AOL web site. AOL
should be apprised that its services are being misused for the purposes
of hate propaganda:
<<THE SHAM OF
FREEMASONRY
GENTILE SLAVES TO ZIONIST MASTERS!
By: Timothy Prankerd
"But if the watchman see the sword come, and the people be not warned;
if the sword
come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his
equity; but his
blood will I require at the watchman's hand."
- Ezekiel Chapter 33, verse 6.
I have written this very brief synopsis about Masonry for those reasons
Ezekiel gave in
Chapter 33. It is not my intention to delve to deeply into the history
of the Masons, there
are many good books on that subject, merely to give the average Joe a
quick peek into
the dark side of this secret society.>>
Actually your quick peek involves allusions to nonexistent Freemasonic
"degrees" beyond the 33rd Degree of the Scottish Rite (or maybe the
Primitive Rite too, no distinction being made.) I read in _Scarlet and
the Beast_, by John Daniel, that Pike created the secret Order of the
Palladium, with Mazzini in Italy and somebody else, either in England or
France. According to the author, this body, reposing in secret above
the Scottish Rite, was "Luciferian", in the devil worshipping or
satanist or hedonistic sense (However one would define "Luciferianism"
within or without the generally accepted false propagandist sense, used
by some Christian apologists.)
No such organization exists. It is a straw organization of convenience
and bogeyman that secretly and silently influences and controls without
notice. "Of course it doesn't exist. They want you to believe that is
the case!" or "The lack of proof is itself manifestation of the extent
of their anonymity!" and "Almost all Masons are unknowing dupes of the
inner circle. Their ignorance of same is to be expected." Such goes
the self-serving arguments of the conspiracy theorists who subscribe,
like John Daniel to this false propaganda, that has been recycled for
more than a century. The "Protocols" are neither of Jewish nor Masonic
inspiration, but issue from the anti-government pen of a Frenchman, one
Mr. Joly. _Scarlet and the Beast_ itself may have been the source of
the true exposition, I forget, but the Protocols are not a so-called
Zionist document.
[snipped]
<<Once one achieves the level of the thirty-third degree, they discover
the Brotherhood
is comprised of pagan sun worshippers who adhere to the principles of
Satan. The modus
operandi of the Brotherhood does not go un-noticed by those of us who
are wise to their
doings....>>
Here is a variation of the palladium theory by which the Luciferian cult
is extended to all the fraternity, i.e.. the "Brotherhood", even though,
the previous sentence admits, ex hypothesi, that Masons under the 33rd
degree (of the Scottish Rite) are unaware of the Luciferian nature of
the Palladium. Sooo, with a flourish and slight of writing, the
spurious Palladium's reputation is projected upon Freemasonry at large.
The artifice of the Palladium, having accomplished its purpose, as a
device to link Freemasonry with unwholesome activities, is put aside as
focus is directed upon Freemasonry and the local Lodge, which was what
was intended all along.
An honest inquiry would have relentlessly routed out and exposed the
so-called Palladium and let the case speak for itself. But conspiracy
theories require a linkage from one speculation to another, to some
grand unifying theory which is to be proven. The relative merits of the
intervening speculations are but transitory tools of dubious or
irrelevant merit applied to that over-arching end.
<<A LODGE OF WOLVES!
The Masons have a network of Lodges throughout the world where masons
meet to
discuss relevant issues. The Brotherhood looks after its own, it is
comprised from a
variety of people from all walks of life. If one is a bank manager, he
would help a brother
Mason get a loan he would not ordinarily be able to secure. If one is a
police officer, he
would over look a speeding or parking ticket. But as one hits the
thirty-third degree,
things become alot more sinister. The Brotherhood with its
international Lodges can
finger a hapless victim thousands of miles away should he or she cross
the path of a
Mason.>>
It is granted that deference is sometimes given to individuals, Mason or
not, who have served their country and their community over the years
with selfless service, but not so as to interfere with the law. The
false anecdote about a Mason securing a bank loan that he might not have
received had he not been a Mason flies from common sense. "Why would a
Mason seek funds from a bank anyway? Just reach into the millions of
dollars stashed away in unnamed numbered accounts in Switzerland. Why
pay interest? That's for suckers." See, this explanation would fit in
better with the relationship between the super wealthy, international
conglomerates and Masons. One's propaganda must be internally constant
firstly. By accepting the otherwise unacceptable credit worthiness of
any person based upon personal recommendation, the bank or loan manger,
in this example, would be ipso facto acting as a guarantor to the
security of the loan. In default, the manager who so implicitly
guaranteed the loan would be liable to make good the amount owing. A
court room is not the place to find out if one has in law actually given
a guarantee of credit worthiness, but by approving the loan, that is
otherwise unacceptable, the approving officer by that act and signature
declares as a guarantor of the loan, just as if a signature had been
applied over the "guarantor's" line on the loan contract. No Mason is
obliged to place himself at financial risk in the aid of a Brother, so,
all in all, common sense alone mitigates against the "Masons unfairly
get loans" charge with which sober-minded individuals should disabuse
themselves after they stop laughing at the very notion.
<<With secret handshakes and a plethora of hand signals, Masons are able
to recognize
one another without the need to talk. This is rather handy if you are on
trial for a crime.>>
What if both plaintiff and defendant are Masons as well as the judge?
Does the one who signs of the higher Degree get the benefit of the
court? As the Craft signs have been exposed, and could be executed by
an impostor seeking a supposed advantage, they are insufficient a
determination of one's Masonic bona fides.
<< Should a Mason reveal himself to one of his 'brothers' in the jury
box, it is his Masonic
duty to find that individual not guilty - no matter what the crime he is
guilty of!>>
The Solemn Obligations are to give aid, not give false testimony or free
the guilty. Providing legal aid, new shoes and a shave are, for
example, aid which does not interfere with the application of justice.
<<Whether
ones occupation is that of a Judge, Lawyer, Doctor or Banker, a Mason
only has a duty
to uphold his Masonic oath.>>
A professional may take several oaths of office in government service,
for example. Masonic obligations are always subordinate to the Mason's
moral obligations to country and religion, and attested as such in the
Obligations themselves.
<< Nowhere is the Brotherhood more permeated than in the
Judicial system, where Judges act like kings in their own courts.>>
Well, if every eligible man became a member of the Craft, then any
supposed Masonic advantage would thereby be nullified. Not being a
member of any other so-called Luciferian influenced body, their moral
and religious convictions would remain unsmeared. Of what use is an
advantage unless it is restricted to the select few? It is because no
such Masonic advantage exists.
<< THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION
To understand the Masons, you must first understand those who control
and manipulate
them. The easiest and best way for you to accomplish this is for you to
read the
Protocols of Zion.>>
You are not advancing your cause by digging deeper into already exposed
and refuted charges. Prove with names and addresses, those who control
Freemasonry. The Protocols have already been mentioned as having been
exposed as a hoax.
<<The Masons however are mere puppets to their Zionist masters, like a
dog on leash, it is
bound by the amount of rope its master allows. The reward for the
Masons facilitating
the Zionist Conspirators is to secure themselves a position in the
coming New World
Order. The Zionist Masonic lust for greed and power is no different than
Lucifers grab
for power in heaven.>>
Zionism is advocacy for the statehood of Israel, which statehood is a
fait accompli. "Zionist" and "Zionism" are used as synonyms for "Jew"
and "Judaism" by hate propagandists who seek to hide behind the illusory
"good Jew"/bad Jew" distinction, which does not exist save as a
subterfuge from intellectual honesty. You are anti-Jew. Period. Not
anti-Zionist. Not anti-Semitic. Anti-Jew.
How comes it that the Jews suffered progroms and oppression for
centuries, culminating in the Holocaust of this century, when they were
supposedly possessed of magical powers (i.e. Kabbalism), great wealth
(i.e. international bankers, diamond merchants, etc., etc.) and
controlling Freemasonry? "Ahh, but the Holocaust never occurred, go the
historical revisionists, that's just Zionist propaganda." But the
Nuremberg trials proved the guilt of the Nazi crimes against Humanity,
did they not? "The trials were a Judeo-Masonic farce orchestrated by
Masonically influenced countries like the U.S., the United Kingdom, and
France." And on it goes, as all facts contrary to the propagandists'
theories are brushed aside, without investigation, as claimed falsehoods
perpetrated by the invisible adepts of a fevered imagination and nascent
paranoid psychosis.
<< For one to realize the deceptive power of the Brotherhood, you first
have to understand that the Devil protects his own. Lucifer is not to
be under estimated,
after all, he attempted to corrupt the Son of God while he walked the
realms of this
earth! If Lucifer was capable of corruption in the most holiest of
places, it is not hard to
comprehend the ease for him to do so here on earth! Forewarned is
forearmed, be on
your metel....>>
I have spent years, online, in public, besting Masonic advocates,
provocateurs and enforcers, and re-proofed them all repeatedly, with no
harm done to me. What you have written is utter nonsense.
<<THE ZIONIST INFILTRATION OF AMERICA
The Establishment of a One World Government is only a stones throw away,
partly
because the American political body is top heavy with Jews and
Freemasons.>>
Your rant has dropped its facade of investigative inquiry and launched
itself into an anti-Jew hate speech, the contents of which are
acceptable only by hate mongers of a kindred spirit to yours. I omit
dealing with them here, specifically as it is beyond the scope of
Freemasonry, but I'll add them at my web site's refutation of this
article.
Well, I got to the end of the rant, which is long on charges but absent
of any proof acceptable to the objective researcher.
† Mike Restivo
http://www.pathcom.com/~mtronics/anticult/
(1. Anti-cult awareness essays, 2. Pro-Freemasonry Essays, 3. Pro-Jewish
and pro-Christian essays in the Judaica section. All essays and related
articles are from the Bible-believing Christian perspective.)
---------------------------------
From:
Mike Restivo <web...@pobox.com>
5/14/99 8:50 PM
Subject:
Re: Drifter's Comments
Newsgroups:
alt.freemasonry
Ted Berry wrote:
>
> In article <7hgugg$fc7$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>,
> "Josh Heller" <jdzn...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > In his lengthy prose, Drifter says that the further you proceed
> through the
> > advanced degrees, you are told that Satan or Lucifer isn't such a
> "bad guy"
> > after all and so on and so forth.
> >
> > Please tell me that this is not true.
> >
> > Thank you guys,
> > Josh
> >
> >
>
> Satan has nothing to do with Freemasonry except that "fundemental Bible-
> believing Christians" often like to take certain authors out of context.
>
> The other arguement goes like this:
> -Freemasonry does not mention the name Jesus Christ in its ritual
> -Therefore they must be didicated to Satan
>
> That is fairly tough logic to buy on my part. That would be like
> saying that because the American Pledge of Allegiance does not mention
> the name Jesus Christ, the U.S. must be deciated to Satan. Not quite...
>
> Ted Berry
>
> --
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>
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Mr. Berry, As you note, the "Lucifer is good is taught in the higher
degrees." motif is based upon an unfortunate use of the term Lucifer by
Albert Pike out of the usual Satanic context in his book _Morals and
Dogma_. He used it as a metaphor for natural knowledge in
contradistinction to revealed knowledge. Lucifer being such a loaded
word, I don't understand why he used it, or did not qualify his usage to
prevent misinterpretation.
It is not found in the Work of the AASR(SJ), Pike's revision.
Sovereign Grand Commander Pike has written against satan several times
in the same book, but these quotes are *never* cited, neither his
positive words about Jesus Christ.
Let's return to the source of this misunderstanding once and for (all my
annotations in square brackets):
<<The Apocalypse is to those who receive the nineteenth degree [i.e.
Grand Pontiff], the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to
God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer. [That
sentence is never quoted by Masonry critics, it being self-exculpatory.]
Lucifer the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the
spirit of Darkness! Lucifer the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears
the Light, and with its splendours intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or
selfish souls? Doubt it not! for traditions are full of Divine
Revelations and Inspirations: and Inspiration is not of one Age nor of
one Creed. Plato and Philo also were inspired.>> - Albert Pike, _Morals
and Dogma_ p. 321 upper part. 1951 edition
Pike is mocking the "pomps and works of Lucifer" when he sarcastically
asks, "Is it he..." and emphasizes the sarcasm with the response, "Doubt
it not!". It is a satirical send-up of the approval granted to lying
signs and wonders by the very "feeble, sensual or selfish souls" of
which Pike writes. Cf:
(2 Cor 11:4 KJV) "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we
have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not
received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well
bear with him."
(2 Tim 4:3 KJV) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
teachers, having itching ears;"
(2 Tim 4:4 KJV) "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables."
(2 Cor 11:14 KJV) "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into
an angel of light."
(2 Cor 11:15 KJV) "Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also
be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be
according to their works."
consider also:
(Rev 22:16 KJV) "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these
things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and
the bright and morning star."
Pike's satire contains an irony in that Jesus Christ calls Himself the
"morning star". So when he writes, "Is it he who bears the light?", it
is a play on words, sarcastically alluding to the Light of Jesus Christ.
Would that more Christian Masons actually lived according to the Holy
Scripture and the Craft, rather than evading the Truth. The impotent
attacks on Restivo do nothing to add or subtract from this Truth as I
have given it. They attack Freemasonry itself with their evil mischief
making.
† Mike Restivo
http://www.pathcom.com/~mtronics/anticult/
(1. Anti-cult awareness essays, 2. Pro-Freemasonry Essays, 3. Pro-Jewish
and pro-Christian essays in the Judaica section. All essays and related
articles are from the Bible-believing Christian perspective.)
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From:
Mike Restivo <web...@pobox.com>
6/29/99 10:02 AM
Subject:
Pike, KKK, Mafia False Info Exposed
Newsgroups:
alt.freemasonry
Just a short note to remark that the Mazzini attributions come from
_Scarlet and the Beast_ by John Daniel [1]. They may have other
antecedents, but the books from which Mr. Daniel derives his conspiracy
theories are of dubious reliability, as he himself takes pains to point
out. Although there have been political movements like the Carbonari,
the Mafia has always been a criminal, not political organization, that
preys upon the weak and vulnerable, especially of Sicilian and Italian
descent.
There is no proof whatsoever that Mazzini or any other Mason of any
obedience founded the Mafia or its antecedents like the Black hand.
Furthermore, it is no way Masonic in any of its characteristics. The
ritual of being a made man, as related by Joe Vallachi, to the Keefauver
Commission, bears no resemblance to Masonic ritual. Not all ritual is
Masonic.
Masonic links to international drug trade, crime organizations and new
world order conspiracies are unproven nonsense peddled to a gullible and
fearful readership. They eagerly buy books whose tales of fear
mongering serve to validate and support reader's predispositional
animosity towards one or more social, ethnic or religious groups. The
readers need to blame their inadequacies upon the oppression of the
straw men spun by demagogues who are eager to supply their readership
with what their itching ears crave to hear.
There is likewise no evidence, other than unsupported off-hand remarks
by some Masonic critical authors, that Pike founded or wrote the rituals
of the KKK. Finally there is no proof that he was a member of the KKK.
These claims stem from the supposition that as a Southerner, he probably
would have been a member of the original KKK. I read that he joined
then quit. Furthermore it is assumed that Pike would be a racist and
bigot. That is not supported by Pike's own writings in which he
condemned the slave trade. His own feeling may have been consonant with
contemporaneous opinions about racial separation, but he himself
recognized the regularity of Prince Hall Masonry at a time when it was
generally not recognized anywhere in the United States.
The flaw in using Grand Orient Freemasonry as an argument against all
Freemasonic obediences, is that political activities of Grand Orient
Masons have no relevance to Freemasonry with respect to Grand Lodges
related to the Grand Lodge of England. The Grand Orients neither control
these Grand Lodges nor are the Grand Orients recognized, by them.
John Daniels further implicates Mazzini as a follower of the Illuminist
ideals of Weishaupt, no proof given, save a comparison between Mazzini's
and Weishaupt's political philosophies [2]. "There are similar,
therefore they must have been collaborators in an 'Illuminist/Grand
Orient/Mafia/Masonic/etc. new world order conspiracy'", goes the flawed
logical calculus.
Finally, John Daniels implicates Mazzini and Pike in the creation of the
super secret "Luciferian" order of the Palladium [3]. This was the
invention of Leo Taxil as was one Diana Vaughan, who was supposed to be
the Grand Mistress of the Order. Taxil eventually admitted the whole
charade was a hoax. [4] Daniels is wrong ab origine when he defines
"Palladium" as referring to the phallus, more a Freudian slip than
fact. "Palladium" refers to a statue of Athena used as protection for
the city:
"A statue of Athena esp. one on the citadel of Troy on which the safety
of the city was supposed to depend. 2. Anything (usually lc.) believed
to provide protection or safety."
- article "Palladium", Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 1997 edition.
Note well the entire Taxil Affair is nowhere to be found in John
Daniel's massive three volume work. He has founded a not insignificant
amount of his conspiracy theory upon a known hoax and thusly removed his
study from the realm of serious consideration on this account alone.
[1] _Scarlet and the Beast_, John Daniels, p.329-340
[2] Ibid., p.332
[3] Ibid., p.333
[4] _Encyclopedia of Freemasonry_, A.E. Waite, Vol. 2, "Palladian
Freemasonry" article, p. 251-264.
† Mike Restivo
http://www.pathcom.com/~mtronics/anticult/
(1. Anti-cult awareness essays, 2. Pro-Freemasonry Essays, 3. Pro-Jewish
and pro-Christian essays in the Judaica section. All essays and related
articles are from the Bible-believing Christian perspective.)
------------------------------
† Mike Restivo
Bill Maddox
> The Mysteries of Magic contains the following on page 428:
<No author given>
Let's see, I decided to search Amazon for "Mysteries of Magic", and
found:
Mysteries and Magic (True-Life Encounters Series)
John Spencer, Anne Spencer / Paperback / Published 1999
or perhaps you meant
The History of Magic : Including a Clear and Precise Exposition of Its
Procedure, Its Rites, and Its Mysteries ~
Eliphas Levi, Arthur Edward Waite (Translator) / Paperback /
Published
1999
<snipping more quotes from the Mysteries of Magic
Now I know every Mason is intitled to believe what he wants when it
> Now I know every Mason is intitled to believe what he wants when it comes
> to the identity of The Great Architect of the Universe, but
> apparently the Freemason who wrote this book worships Lucifer
Now that part of the sentence is intriguing, in its vagueness alone.
The <unidentified> author of a book <not found by searching amazon.com>
who
apparently is a freemason (a tough statement to refute, because it lacks
any
facts that can be referrenced) said something nice about something
called Lucifer.
> , or at
> least considers him to be a good guy.
"considers him to be a good guy" is suddenly equated to worship.
interesting.
In college, I had a comparative Religions course (Eastern/Western). One
of
our assignments was contrasting the Serpent of the Garden of Eden with
Prometheus of Greek Mythology.
Does that mean we were serpent worshippers or believers in Greek
Mythology.
The instructor, a methodist minister, even said once that the satan of
the old testament was not such a bad guy. He could only do what God
allowed (Job).
> There are other quotes I could try
> dig up ,by Albert Pike, a well respected Freemason. Albert Pike seemed
> to have felt the same way on the subject of Lucifer.
Without looking it up, in is just more of the same. Why do we use the
term Light Bearer or bringer of knowledge as a common thread in our
folklore to indicate evil? <Oops, gave away part of the assignment>
> So There were at
> least two Freemasons who worshiped Lucifer.
Actually, Pike was a Trinitarian. I doubt he ever worshipped Lucifer,
no more that my methodist teacher in the comparitive religions class
did.
Sincerely - Bill Maddox
Perfect Union Lodge #10, AF&AM, GL of Texas
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Mike Restivo <mtronicsREM...@pathcom.com> wrote:
> brain...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > ...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be false.............
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
> Nonsense; I refuted that falsehood several times over the years. What
> article are you referencing? Cite it that I may refute it point by
> point. Neither Freemasonry nor Freemasons worship Lucifer.
>
> † Mike Restivo
>
With respect, brother, and for the purpose of spreading light, I must point
out that you have accepted without question their assumptive, and false,
premise that 'Lucifer' is synonymous with Satan.
The word 'lucifer' is a product of St. Jerome's Latin Vulgate version of the
Bible and appeared in only 3 verses. I would like to reproduce those verses
here in their original Latin followed by the English but with the word in
question untranslated:
[Job 11:17] et quasi meridianus fulgor consurget tibi ad vesperam et cum te
consumptum putaveris orieris ut lucifer
Translation: [Job 11:17] And thine age shall be clearer than the noonday:
thou shalt shine forth, thou shalt be as lucifer.
[Isa 14:12] quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti
in terram qui vulnerabas gentes
Translation: [Isa 14:12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of
the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the
nations!
[2 Pet 1:19] et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis
adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat
et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris
Translation: [2 Pet 1:19] We have also a more sure word of prophecy;
whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a
dark place, until the day dawn, and lucifer arise in your hearts
The use of the word 'lucifer' in the Isaian verse seems to stand apart from
the others at first appearance. Scholars have determined that the Isaian
verse refers not to Satan but to either the King of Assyria or the King of
Babylon. Purely from a scriptural standpoint I support the stance that the
verse concerns the King of Babylon (i.e., Nebuchadnezzer) because of
similarities to Daniel ch. 4. This would mean that the use of the word
'lucifer' was here used to mock the King. However, this position is based
more on anecdotal evidence than any scholarly exegesis.
There is absolutely NO scriptural evidence, nor any other evidence extant for
that matter, to suggest that 'lucifer' and 'satan' are the same sentient
being.
Again, this communication is to a brother for the purpose of sharing
information.
--
"We hear a promise, hard to understand:
From the compulsion that all creatures binds,
Who overcomes himself, his freedom finds."
--Goethe
jruble
brain...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7r6rss$9ut$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>...Apparently, no Mason can prove this article to be false.............
>
>
That brings up another very important question. Can you prove it to be
true??????
SCOTTY
MasonTruth
>Date: Thu, 09 September 1999 12:07 AM EDT
>Message-id: <37D7328D...@pathcom.com>
>
>
>Nonsense; I refuted that falsehood several times over the years. What
>article are you referencing? Cite it that I may refute it point by
>point. Neither Freemasonry nor Freemasons worship Lucifer.
>
>† Mike Restivo
>
>
>
>
Dear Mike,
Thank you very much...
Sincerely & Respectfully