Is this a current assessment of the 5 broken no registration nntp servers?

[R.Wieser]

Is this a current assessment of the 5 broken no registration nntp servers?

[nntp.aioe.org:119]
[news.dizum.net:119]
[freenews.netfront.net:119]
[news.neodome.net:119]
[news.mixmin.net:563]

aioe is still out of commission as an nntp server
dizum is no longer available for posting
netfront is no longer available for posting
neodome is no longer available for posting
mixmin is delaying some messages by days and not sending most others

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

[oo DAVID KEETING]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 04:45:49 +0100, R.Wieser observed the following stuff:
.

that's certainly an odd coincidents , don't you think? i don't believe in
coincidents , i wonder if pembroke paul does?

--
DAVID KEETING x\o

"My issue is I care for people too much."

[Sn!pe]

In no particular order:

At least two of those servers became unavailable because
abusers caused their admins to close them for posting.
Another boasted it was a "problem provider"; it may still be,
everything posted there goes straight into my global killfile.
One was an altruistic hobby server that despite precautions
had many abusers. It suffered a catastrophic disk failure.
One is a more or less respectable server; I don't know why
it's having problems (is it still u/s?).

I expect that Paul will be along soon to tell us the inside story
as seen from the Pembroke perspective.

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

~ Slava Ukraini ~

[Marco Moock]

Am 17.02.2023 um 04:45:49 Uhr schrieb R.Wieser:

> Is this a current assessment of the 5 broken no registration nntp
> servers?
>
> [nntp.aioe.org:119]
> [news.dizum.net:119]
> [freenews.netfront.net:119]
> [news.neodome.net:119]
> [news.mixmin.net:563]
>
> aioe is still out of commission as an nntp server

RAID failure, recovery takes some time.

> dizum is no longer available for posting

Maybe because it has been abused by spammers.

> mixmin is delaying some messages by days and not sending most others

That server has been abused for sending spam. Maybe the operator
restricted posting.

[Paul Marshall]

On 17 Feb 2023, snip...@gmail.com (Sn!pe) posted some
news:1q6agtu.9drbj01heul38N%snip...@gmail.com:

> R.Wieser <add...@not.available> wrote:
>
>> Is this a current assessment of the 5 broken no registration nntp
>> servers?
>>
>> [nntp.aioe.org:119]
>> [news.dizum.net:119]
>> [freenews.netfront.net:119]
>> [news.neodome.net:119]
>> [news.mixmin.net:563]
>>
>> aioe is still out of commission as an nntp server
>> dizum is no longer available for posting
>> netfront is no longer available for posting
>> neodome is no longer available for posting
>> mixmin is delaying some messages by days and not sending most others
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rudy Wieser
>>
>
> In no particular order:
>
> At least two of those servers became unavailable because
> abusers caused their admins to close them for posting.
> Another boasted it was a "problem provider"; it may still be,

You mean you couldn't stalk anybody on it and it was a "problem provider"
for you because you got your ass kicked numerous times by posters using
it.

> everything posted there goes straight into my global killfile.
> One was an altruistic hobby server that despite precautions
> had many abusers. It suffered a catastrophic disk failure.

Storage controller failure.

[Sn!pe]

Hello, Paul. I don't think we've met before unless our paths have
crossed using other names. You do seem remarkably familiar...

Anyway: I'm too proud to post on Dizum; it was full of knaves,
vagabonds, miscreants and abusers. Ye shall be known by the
company ye keep, eh what?

>
> > everything posted there goes straight into my global killfile.
> > One was an altruistic hobby server that despite precautions
> > had many abusers. It suffered a catastrophic disk failure.
>
> Storage controller failure.
>
> > One is a more or less respectable server; I don't know why
> > it's having problems (is it still u/s?).
> >
> > I expect that Paul will be along soon to tell us the inside story
> > as seen from the Pembroke perspective.
> >

JFTR: Paul Marshall is not the Paul to whom I was referring, unless
anybody here knows any different. I'm curious, though: how is it
that his Injection-Info shows paganini but his User-Agent shows
Google Groups' G2/1.0? There's something funny going on! ≈:o)

----------
Message-ID: <tsnhv6$fuvq$1...@paganini.bofh.team>
Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="523258";
posting-host="OkN55iqYwdPgJRNRlROHKA.user.paganini.bofh.team";
mail-complaints-to="use...@bofh.team";
posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";
User-Agent: G2/1.0
------------

[R.Wieser]

oo DAVID KEETING

> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 04:45:49 +0100, R.Wieser observed the following stuff:

> that's certainly an odd coincidents , don't you think? i don't believe in
> coincidents , i wonder if pembroke paul does?

What's also odd is I tried to send this message and it doesn't show up.
At least not in the two newsgroups that I only sent it to
alt.free.newsservers,news.software.nntp

Is it just those two newsgroups being blocked by Paganini & Mixmin?

Even now the original message that I had sent to the two newsgroup still
doesn't show up but your replies show up. I don't know why.

I sent it with paganini and mixmin and both were delayed greatly.
Neither shows up but people's responses show up.

How did anyone get the original post if I don't see it having been posted?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

[Sn!pe]

I assume you are reading on Paganini; try looking
for your article on another newsserver.

[Grant Taylor]

On 2/17/23 2:37 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
> RAID failure, recovery takes some time.

We're well beyond the time needed to recover from a RAID failure.

Perhaps the RAID card itself died and a new one needed to be acquired
which needed funding.

Replacing a disk, even ordering it, is faster.

Restoring from backups on a new RAID is faster.

There's more than /just/ a RAID failure.

Maybe the RAID failure was the straw that broke the camel's back.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

[Grant Taylor]

On 2/17/23 12:07 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
> What's also odd is I tried to send this message and it doesn't show up.
> At least not in the two newsgroups that I only sent it to
> alt.free.newsservers,news.software.nntp

I've seen multiple copies of your message in multiple newsgroups.

I see three copies in this newsgroup.

On 2/16/23 10:50 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?

On 2/16/23 10:48 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Current assessment of the 5 broken no registration nntp servers?

On 2/16/23 8:45 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
> Is this a current assessment of the 5 broken no registration nntp
> servers?

The 3rd is the thread that I'm replying to.

You've used an invalid email address so I can't CC you to make sure that
you do see this message in case the server you're using is messed up.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Let's assume Paolo has a real life he had to get back to.

[Marco Moock]

I heard that he had other problems (health?), but I dunno if that is
true.

[William Stickers]

Grant Taylor wrote:
{...}

> Maybe the RAID failure was the straw that broke the camel's back.

More than likely. If he was bringing it back he'd have
found a way to post something to that effect. His silence
is deafening.

[Incubus]

On 2023-02-18, Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> Maybe the RAID failure was the straw that broke the camel's back.

That's also my assessment of the facts as we currently seem to know them.

To speculate, It could be the spammers finally drove Paolo & Steve crazy to
the point that their good hearts couldn't handle the depression that the
spammers literally "delight" in taking advantage of their largesse.

These spammers who spam even this ng have no heart. No soul. No humanity.
No shame.

Me?

I'm just a normal user who desires privacy while on Usenet, where the free
newsservers allow me to not have to pay by privacy eroding credit cards.

Hence, for protecting my privacy by providing a free Usenet service over
the years, I give heartfelt thanks to Paolo Amoroso, Steve Crook, Jesse
Rehmer, Wolfgang Weyand, Alexander Bartolich, Sabine Schultz, Roman Racine,
Daniel & Monika Weber, Benjamin Gufler, Steen Jensen (not all of whom are
still with us, may they rest in peace), and others whom I am less familiar
with such as Alex de Joode & admins at paganini, neodome, and netfront
respectively.

Those people above are heroes to me for all the thankless work they perform
for me in terms of supporting my abilitity to converse on Usenet by keeping
the dignity of my privacy intact.

Thank you all.
--
PS: Grant... you've helpmed me many times which I also appreciate.

[Grant Taylor]

On 2/18/23 1:36 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
> I heard that he had other problems (health?), but I dunno if that
> is true.

I hope that's not the case.

But that's the type of things that would make a hardware problem take
much longer to resolve.

[jbyrd]

Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in
news:tsr392$et3$1...@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:

> On 2/18/23 1:36 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
>> I heard that he had other problems (health?), but I dunno if that
>> is true.
>
> I hope that's not the case.
>
> But that's the type of things that would make a hardware problem take
> much longer to resolve.

Absence of backups, the smell of napalm in the data center when your
server's RAID array goes tits up. That could adversely impact health.

[oo DAVID KEETING]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 09:17:21 +0000, Sn!pe
.

All the Jew spam crap has disappeared from AC, and I sure as hell don't miss
Dizum or Mixmin's dubious contributions to Usenet.

[Anton Shepelev]

William Stickers:

> His silence is deafening.

Last time I heard from Paolo, he was in very bad health and
feared for his life. It would be great if someone from
Italy were able to contact him and his relations and
friends, to find a way the community could help him, e.g.
via PayPal or Patreon.

[William Stickers]

I'm very sorry to hear that and I'm sure most people
reading this would join me in wishing him a speedy
recovery.

[Sn!pe]

AOL. GWS, Paolo.

[none]

On 19 Feb 2023, William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> posted some
news:kTvIL.1018465$iS99....@fx16.iad:

Italy has socialized medicine. It's pretty good too. They also have
social assistance, but it's not a lot.

Did he mention the health issue?

[Anton Shepelev]

none:

> Did he mention the health issue?

No.

[Ivo Gandolfo]

On 17/02/2023 20:07, R.Wieser wrote:
> Is it just those two newsgroups being blocked by Paganini & Mixmin?
>

>

> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser

Hi Rudy,

on my server (due to abuse) it's only closed for posting alt.checkmate.
The all other's group are open (and I checked the log's of my peers
accept all article). And checked all log's of artcle posted on my server
and not found reject-by-policy.

Do u have any problem using my server? if yes please report all problem
to my email, thank's :)

Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

[Ivo Gandolfo]

On 18/02/2023 18:04, Incubus wrote:
> with such as Alex de Joode & admins at paganini, neodome, and netfront
> respectively.
>
> Those people above are heroes to me for all the thankless work they perform
> for me in terms of supporting my abilitity to converse on Usenet by keeping
> the dignity of my privacy intact.
>
> Thank you all.

Thank's to you Incubus.


Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

[Incubus]

On 2023-02-21, Ivo Gandolfo <use...@bofh.team> wrote:
>> Those people above are heroes to me for all the thankless work they perform
>> for me in terms of supporting my abilitity to converse on Usenet by keeping
>> the dignity of my privacy intact.
>>
>> Thank you all.
>
> Thank's to you Incubus.
>
> Sincerely

> Ivo Gandolfo

Hi Ivo Gandolfo,

Thank you for being wonderful in adding your bastard operator nntp server
to the mix recently, where I had originally thought you were just pranking
someone, but then you opened it up again to everyone, which I appreciate.

I assume Ivo Gandolfo is as Ray Banana is to Wolfgang Weyand, where a
memorably interesting nym is likely a good thing for an nntp server admin.

Personally, I've been on Usenet since, oh, the memory fails me, but maybe
since the backslash bang days of sending emails to specific server hops.

Hence I very much appreciate the "old style" country attitude of pitching
in to help others, where I do what I can myself, even if it's not running a
Usenet server (I run a non-exit node for Tor services for example, where
the exit node is just too much responsibility for me to take on myself).

I thank you for being a good netizen by serving a similar public need for
privacy, where to me, the instant you pay for something, privacy is lost.

Remember the "olden days" when we used to actually use our real email
address, and then when we received a spam or two a month, we'd complain to
the POP (in those days) server admin about their customer spamming us!

Those days are gone where you are forced to automatically badword filter
(yours is a little Draconian but that's OK as it's easy to change the word)
and you kind of limit the number of posts per day (also, perfectly
acceptable as while I will never spam, plenty of people will so you needed
to implement strict filters on the number of posts per time period per IP).

For me, the free newsservers offer anonymity because I don't have to pay
with a credit card, which is important to me, which is why I appreciate
wonderful nntp admins such as you are and the others, not all of whom are
still doing it - mostly because of the headaches from the spammers.

Offhand, netfront, dizum, albasani & neodome (I think) have been forced to
give up completely while mixmin seems to have done so partially with
extended wait times and perhaps the venerable aioe is not coming up because
it's just not worth the hassles of dealing with the innumerable spammers.

Given I'm sure they spam using your free no-registration server, I
sincerely thank you for your new service, which many will use now that poor
Paolo is having issues, perhaps with health, where there but for the grace
of God go all of us, and has been the case when Roman Racine took over the
nntp server from Sabine Shultz when Alexander Bartolich passed away (may he
rest in peace).

I apologize for this long thank you note, but very few people thank you I'm
sure (certainly they don't thank me!), so I do very much wish to say your
service is much appreciated by those of us who are old school and who
simply want a bit of privacy when expressing our personal opinions on
Usenet.

Thank you!
Incubus

[Sebastian Stan]

On 21 Feb 2023, noel <delet...@invalid.lan> posted some
news:63f534b4$1...@news.ausics.net:

> Why does he even have RAID, I recall not only does he just carry text
> groups, he also has stated he has a short (few months) retention period,
> he certainly doesn't need "space"

RAID - Redundant Array of Independent Disks.

It ain't there for space, 'cept mebbe 'tween yore ears Mr. Eustace Haney.

Redundancy - noun, the state of being no longer employed because there is
no more work available.

Redundancy - technical, the inclusion of extra components which are not
strictly necessary to functioning, in case of failure in other components.
"a high degree of redundancy is built into the machinery installation".

[Ivo Gandolfo]

On 21/02/2023 16:52, Incubus wrote:
[cut]
> Thank you!
> Incubus

A lot of time ago I have started to mantain a BBS (and after that) an
usenet server. This server have changed name various time over the
year's past's. In my intentions there has never been a desire for
profit. I did it simply because I liked it.

Over time this pleasure has turned into a duty. I've never felt the need
to know who used my services, but I do statistics. About 67% of my users
are from TOR, another 12% from other anonymization services (eg VPN),
about 8% are from users without authentication, the rest are from
registered users. All my services are free-as-beer. Registered or not.

Usenet (like many other services like BBS) has been in decline for many
years now, and only enthusiasts like me keep its spirit and cooperation
alive, and I'm proud of this, even if ISPs and many other people have
forgotten how it was born internet, and its services, going to much
"cooler" things like Facebook or Instagram.

If users like you are happy and proud to find free services like mine
and being happy this makes me happy and proud in turn. And if spammers
and the like cause trouble, this is not a burden for me to carry.

Thank's to you again.

Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

[Hormel Can]

On 2/21/23 09:52, Incubus wrote:
> Offhand, netfront, dizum, albasani & neodome (I think) have been forced to
> give up completely while mixmin seems to have done so partially with
> extended wait times and perhaps the venerable aioe is not coming up because
> it's just not worth the hassles of dealing with the innumerable spammers.

Spam problem is result of lacking imagination.

Block all messages originating with uzoreto and google and 99% of spam
is eliminated.

Don't peer with servers that carry binary warez and piracy groups.

Some of you have all the time in the world to troll and annoy each
other. But you don't have time to volunteer to moderate some newsgroups.
That would allow you access free of spam.

Three or more users could agree to moderate with a single moderation
mail server account, set up using IMAP, or a mailing-list proxy to the
moderation address, so that all can delete spam. Whoever is first to
notice spam just delete it from moderation queue.

Spam problem solved. Nice group where anyone can post anything that is
not spam.

[SpecOp]

Old special forces slogan for moonbeam stick and fire sticks and pairs
of socks, etc. ....... "two is one, one is none."

As soon as one breaks or is lost, you have none. If you have one
moonbeam and it breaks, you are now stuck in the dark. If you have two
moonbeams and one breaks, you have one. So two is one, and one is none.

So always have two or more. If one breaks, replace right away with two more.

This way you don't fail.

[Bill W]

On Feb 21, 2023, Ivo Gandolfo wrote (in article
<news:tt3fof$29qtf$1...@paganini.bofh.team>):

> About 67% of my users
> are from TOR, another 12% from other anonymization services (eg VPN),
> about 8% are from users without authentication, the rest are from
> registered users. All my services are free-as-beer. Registered or not.

How does someone post to Usenet from TOR?

The only way I know how to use TOR is via the Firefox TOR Browser Bundle.
https://www.torproject.org/download/

Is Usenet posting accessible through the TOR Firefox web browser?
How?

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 21/02/2023 22:14, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

Over time this pleasure has turned into a duty. I've never felt the need to know who used my services, but I do statistics. About 67% of my users are from TOR, another 12% from other anonymization services (eg VPN), about 8% are from users without authentication, the rest are from registered users. All my services are free-as-beer. Registered or not.

For those of you who are mathematically challenged, 13% are genuine users. I never knew Gandolfo had a service that required Registration. Also, where do you get free beer in 2023? In the UK beer prices are going up the roof because of cost of living expenses inflicted on us by dictator Putin so nobody is going to give away free beer. Am I misunderstanding the word: "free-as-beer" used by Linux junkies? Jacinda Arden was never so cryptic in her words but people in these newsgroups are. Of course she also said that she hasn't got anything left in the tank so she decided to quit.

The only way to reduce spam, and deter people from trolling is to charge a nominal fee (e.g £10 for registration - Lifetime) with a credit card or PayPal. This way they know that their identity is known and so they will behave properly. Even Dictator Putin would be deterred from invading any other country because of sanctions. China is now really worried!! so Taiwan is safe for now so is our computer supplies.

Arrest

Dictator Putin

We Stand

With Ukraine

Stop Putin

Ukraine Under Attack

--

We do not live to ourselves and we do not die to ourselves; if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord.

So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning

[jj]

On 21 Feb 2023, Bill W <not...@nowhere.com> posted some
news:tt3jmk$2a7t4$1...@paganini.bofh.team:

Couple of ways.

You'll need something like sockscap or SOCAT. Depending on the server
access policy, you may also need stunnel.

If the usenet server permits Tor you can use Tor Browser to provide the
port, 9150 for example. They might also have an onion V3 address to use.

Lots of examples out there how to do it. Best way to keep the usenet
psychopaths from stalking you at work and harrassing your employer.

[Fourragere]

In article <tt3it3$2khv$2...@news.cyber23.de>

Exactly that. Always roll two pairs of clean dry socks up in
your poncho hood because nothing hurts more than wet raw feet in
combat boots unless you get shot.

--
Semper Fi

[Sledge]

https://rocksolidbbs.com
https://novabbs.org

They allow free access via Tor and I2P.

[SpecOp]

Got take a piss, Washington disinfo troll.

[SpecOp]

Sis boom fucking ooh rah. Do you post articles while wrapped in your woobie?

You can tell us, soldier. Don't be shy.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I'm deleting the moronic crosspost as NNTP isn't being discussed.

noel <delet...@invalid.lan> wrote:

>Since their MX's still function it sounds like it, or at least notified
>their peers, neither paolo or steve have responded to multiple emails
>from myself and at least 2 other peers, that alone is very poor showing,
>for me, if they dont reply by end of month, I'm removing their feeds, its
>only common courtesy to say "hey I got big issues i'll be back when I
>can", but neither CBF even doing that.

If the servers are off line, there's nothing to peer with. I don't
understand why this is an issue for you. Paolo said something about the
RAID failure and doesn't really owe you further explanation. I have no
idea if Steve said anything.

What's the big deal about re-establishing peering should the News sites
come back on line?