Mixmin blocked by Hetzner

[Marco Moock]

Hello!

If anybody is wondering why Mixmin isn't accessible anymore:
The host Hetzner shut it down because it has been abused by spammers,
especially in the hierarchy de.*.

The operator didn't do something against it and didn't answer to abuse
mails.

Hetzner first just blocked IPv6 port 119 and 563 incoming.
Now they blocked IPv4 and IPv6 completely for the IP addresses, so
all Mixmin services cannot be used.

Please see Follow-Up!

--
kind regards
Marco

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:16:33 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:16:33 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

> Hetzner first just blocked IPv6 port 119 and 563 incoming.
> Now they blocked IPv4 and IPv6 completely for the IP addresses, so
> all Mixmin services cannot be used.
>
> Please see Follow-Up!

Restore it to normal immediately.

Or else.

--
FNVWe Nadegda

"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with
you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
Checkmate admits that, for all intents and purposes, he carries a teddy
bear in public: <d6cnes.k...@news.alt.net>

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:16:33 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:16:33 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>
> > Hetzner first just blocked IPv6 port 119 and 563 incoming.
> > Now they blocked IPv4 and IPv6 completely for the IP addresses, so
> > all Mixmin services cannot be used.
> >
> > Please see Follow-Up!
>
> Restore it to normal immediately.
>
> Or else.

Paul Derbyshire demands that you FIX IT NOW.

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

[Marco Moock]

Am 23.06.2023 schrieb Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>:

> Restore it to normal immediately.

This can only be done by Hetzner, but I don't think they will do it
until posting without authentication is disabled.

[William Stickers]

The dork behind the sock you replied to demands that it
is fixed. Doesn't matter that Steve Crook can't do it, he
still demands it. That's what he does.

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

I'm amazed that Hetzner disabled the hosting of a fee paying customer. I always thought that as long as the customer continues paying the monthly charges based on the amount of data consumed then what has Hetzner got to do with it? Users of that hosting can boycott that particular hosting and in the case of newsgroups, other servers can filter out everything from Mixmin. There was no need to block Steve Crook from hosting his pet project. I'm sure there are many hosting providers who would allow Steve to have his servers on their platform. Azure, GCP and AWS are another options and these big corporations are more reliable then German Nazi hosting providers.

Lets face it Hetzner are Nazi like Adidas and Puma were. I don't even mention that idiot from banana republic!! who has blocked my posts because I pointed out that he was showing signs of a person suffering from small penis syndrome.  These nazi don't like to hear the truth.

Angela Merkel blocked Ukraine from joining the NATO when she was a dictator in Germany. this has now escalated to an extent that we are all paying the price for Angela's mistake. If Ukraine was in NATO, Russia would have stayed away from invading it. <https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220404-merkel-defends-2008-decision-to-block-ukraine-from-nato>

Arrest

Dictator Putin

We Stand

With Ukraine

Stop Putin

Ukraine Under Attack

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[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Unacceptable.

For months now, you and several others have participated in an orchestrated
campaign to shut off kensi's access to Usenet, despite the fact that she
has done nothing to warrant this. Your actions are morally wrong and you
must undo whatever you did. If you will not do so otherwise, then kensi and
I will pursue every available legal avenue to force you and your co-
conspirators to do so, including this "Hetzner", which neither of us had
even heard of, let alone interacted with, and which therefore would have no
quarrel with kensi unless one or more of you influenced them.

A further moral wrong arising from your actions is that free access to
Usenet, and thus access by any person who doesn't have access to Western
banking and credit cards, is now apparently a monopoly under the control of
Ray Banana, and while I have not had any problem with him or his
administration of E-S, I *do* have a problem with anyone, however
apparently benevolent, being vested with so much power. Power corrupts.

More generally, diversity is preferable to a monoculture, but you and your
co-conspirators have been whittling away at the diversity of free usenet
servers until there are virtually none left. One of you (Sn!pe) has accused
both me and kensi at various times of "destroying" this newsgroup (whilst
their trollish behavior, paranoid rants, and thread derailments did far
more damage than anything either of us ever could have managed), but the
greatest threat to this newsgroup is that its subject matter is an
endangered species brought to the brink of extinction by ... you.

I hereby charge you with the obligation of reversing the damage that you
have done over the past few months. In particular, you are to restore both
mixmin *and* AIOE to normal, and once you have done so you are to post a
public apology in this very newsgroup for your attempts to destroy this
newsgroup's subject matter. After that, you are to function as normal,
ordinary usenet kooks, not supervillains, taking your various spanks as
you earn them and ceasing to take money from the fossil fuel industry to
silence kensi.

Failure to comply is ... not recommended.

[Marco Moock]

Am 23.06.2023 um 16:45:09 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes,
> melt! On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:50:09 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>
> > Am 23.06.2023 schrieb Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>:
> >
> >> Restore it to normal immediately.
> >
> > This can only be done by Hetzner, but I don't think they will do it
> > until posting without authentication is disabled.
>
> Unacceptable.
>
> For months now, you and several others have participated in an
> orchestrated campaign to shut off kensi's access to Usenet, despite
> the fact that she has done nothing to warrant this.

I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*
hierarchy.

> Your actions are morally wrong and you must undo whatever you did.

I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider Hetzner in
Germany.

> If you will not do so otherwise, then kensi and I will pursue every
> available legal avenue to force you and your co- conspirators to do
> so, including this "Hetzner", which neither of us had even heard of,
> let alone interacted with, and which therefore would have no quarrel
> with kensi unless one or more of you influenced them.

The contact the Hetzner company in Germany. They were running the
machine Mixmin was running on.

> A further moral wrong arising from your actions is that free access to
> Usenet, and thus access by any person who doesn't have access to
> Western banking and credit cards, is now apparently a monopoly under
> the control of Ray Banana, and while I have not had any problem with
> him or his administration of E-S, I *do* have a problem with anyone,
> however apparently benevolent, being vested with so much power. Power
> corrupts.

There are other free usenet servers available, e.g. solani.org,
szaf.org, nntp4.net and others. Feel free to use them.

> More generally, diversity is preferable to a monoculture, but you and
> your co-conspirators have been whittling away at the diversity of
> free usenet servers until there are virtually none left.

Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.

> I hereby charge you with the obligation of reversing the damage that
> you have done over the past few months. In particular, you are to
> restore both mixmin *and* AIOE to normal, and once you have done so
> you are to post a public apology in this very newsgroup for your
> attempts to destroy this newsgroup's subject matter.

According to the rumor mill, the disk at aioe failed. After that the
information occured that the operator is seriously ill. We haven't hear
from him for months.

[Twisted One]

I have to agree with Nadegda here. The proper process for debating and implementing a UDP was not followed. Instead some dickhead with an axe to grind acted unilaterally. If entire Usenet servers can now be subjected to a heckler's veto then it isn't Usenet anymore.

I think you should restore both of the servers named and then submit proposals through the proper channels to have them UDP'd. And then accept it when you lose.

[Twisted One]

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:48:59 PM UTC-4, Marco Moock wrote:
> I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*
> hierarchy.

Trolling is not a valid reason for a UDP. Only permitting spam is.

> I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider Hetzner in
> Germany.

At, apparently, your behest, or that of a group consisting of you, Stickers, Snipe, and Kerman who have decided *unilaterally* to forbid no-registration usenet servers from operating. Four people attempting to impose their authoritarian vision on the entire populace, unasked-for. That is about as hostile to the spirit of Usenet as I can conceive.

> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.

a) Do you have any proof of that? (Remember, "abuse" and "someone did something I personally don't like" are *not* synonymous.)
b) Unless it constituted spamming, with the tacit or explicit support of the server operator, it is still not valid grounds for a UDP.

> According to the rumor mill, the disk at aioe failed. After that the
> information occured that the operator is seriously ill. We haven't hear
> from him for months.

So, we're to believe that the deaths, one by one, of every no-registration free server over the past few months, after they'd been fixtures of the net for *decades*, is just coincidence and not a systematic assassination campaign?

Methinks you forgot that a key ingredient in plausible deniability is, well, *plausibility*.

[Sn!pe]

Twisted One <twist...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Paul, how's yer belly off for spots? <BFG>

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:48:57 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

> Am 23.06.2023 um 16:45:09 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:
>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes,
>> melt! On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:50:09 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>>
>> > Am 23.06.2023 schrieb Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>:
>> >
>> >> Restore it to normal immediately.
>> >
>> > This can only be done by Hetzner, but I don't think they will do it
>> > until posting without authentication is disabled.
>>
>> Unacceptable.
>>
>> For months now, you and several others have participated in an
>> orchestrated campaign to shut off kensi's access to Usenet, despite
>> the fact that she has done nothing to warrant this.
>
> I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*
> hierarchy.

Sure, sure, it's just *coincidence* that you and your little cabal have
systematically eradicated every server she's ever posted through.

>> Your actions are morally wrong and you must undo whatever you did.
>
> I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider Hetzner in
> Germany.

It's amazing how fast you flip-flopped from gloating about it to denying
having had anything to do with it. With mental gymnastics skills like
those you could probably make a career of it. Fox "News" is probably
hiring -- they'll need a replacement for Fucker Carlson. I've a sneaking
suspicion you'd fit right in there.

<snicker>

> There are other free usenet servers available, e.g. solani.org,
> szaf.org, nntp4.net and others. Feel free to use them.

I'm happy with E-S. I assume kensi has good reasons for not using those
(possibly including some of them being read-only).

>> More generally, diversity is preferable to a monoculture, but you and
>> your co-conspirators have been whittling away at the diversity of
>> free usenet servers until there are virtually none left.
>
> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.

So you claim. Please supply proof that it was a source of abuse OF the
net (not just abuse ON the net) or retract your accusations, Mr. Koock.
(That would include sending a letter to this Hetzner entity withdrawing
your prior complaints to them, on behalf of yourself *and* all of your
co-conspirators.)

>> I hereby charge you with the obligation of reversing the damage that
>> you have done over the past few months. In particular, you are to
>> restore both mixmin *and* AIOE to normal, and once you have done so
>> you are to post a public apology in this very newsgroup for your
>> attempts to destroy this newsgroup's subject matter.
>
> According to the rumor mill,

A reliable source if ever there was one.

On second thought I don't think you'd do so well at Fox. Your plausible
deniability skills still need serious work.

<snicker>

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:57:06 -0700, Twisted One wrote:

> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:48:59 PM UTC-4, Marco Moock wrote:
>> I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*
>> hierarchy.
>
> Trolling is not a valid reason for a UDP. Only permitting spam is.
>
>> I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider Hetzner in
>> Germany.
>
> At, apparently, your behest, or that of a group consisting of you,
> Stickers, Snipe, and Kerman who have decided *unilaterally* to forbid
> no-registration usenet servers from operating. Four people attempting to
> impose their authoritarian vision on the entire populace, unasked-for.

Five. I think Jen Dershmender is in on it as well, sad to say.

> That is about as hostile to the spirit of Usenet as I can conceive.

Oh, I don't know, I think *one* person imposing an authoritarian vision on
all of Usenet would be even more so. :/

>> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>
> a) Do you have any proof of that? (Remember, "abuse" and "someone did
> something I personally don't like" are *not* synonymous.)
> b) Unless it constituted spamming, with the tacit or explicit support of
> the server operator, it is still not valid grounds for a UDP.

Point: Twisted One. Also, the procedure for deciding and, if agreed, imposing
a UDP was not followed. Which makes Kerman's involvement in this whole affair
rather hypocritical on his part, given how much of a stickler he usually is
for the following of proper Usenet procedures in such matters.

>> According to the rumor mill, the disk at aioe failed. After that the
>> information occured that the operator is seriously ill. We haven't hear
>> from him for months.
>
> So, we're to believe that the deaths, one by one, of every no-registration
> free server over the past few months, after they'd been fixtures of the net
> for *decades*, is just coincidence and not a systematic assassination
> campaign?
>
> Methinks you forgot that a key ingredient in plausible deniability is,
> well, *plausibility*.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

SPANKY-SPANKY! on Koock and friends.

And now that they have been thoroughly spanked, they have 48 hours to get
at least one of the servers they've attacked restored to normal operation,
or dire consequences will ensue. I won't even need to do more than sit on
the sidelines munching popcorn, because if they want a war, kensi will give
them a war!

[William Stickers]

I just lurve watching an autistic meltdown :-)

More, please.

[Marco Moock]

Am 23.06.2023 um 11:57:06 Uhr schrieb Twisted One:

> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:48:59 PM UTC-4, Marco Moock wrote:
> > I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*
> > hierarchy.
>
> Trolling is not a valid reason for a UDP. Only permitting spam is.

Excessive trolling, including mail and name forgeries in certain
newsgroups, is spam and abusive.

> > I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider
> > Hetzner in Germany.
>
> At, apparently, your behest, or that of a group consisting of you,
> Stickers, Snipe, and Kerman who have decided *unilaterally* to forbid
> no-registration usenet servers from operating. Four people attempting
> to impose their authoritarian vision on the entire populace,
> unasked-for. That is about as hostile to the spirit of Usenet as I
> can conceive.

It is what Hetzner did. They can read all the messages that came from
Mixmin to get an idea of what happened.
Just look at de.talk.tagesgeschehen and look at the many posts by
forged From: addresses and names, mostly just to annoy people. Often
these posts were crossposted to other groups where they were off-topic.

The operators of Mixmin (Steven Crook) didn't care about it, so the VPS
hoster blocked access to it with the firewall.

> > Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>
> a) Do you have any proof of that? (Remember, "abuse" and "someone did
> something I personally don't like" are *not* synonymous.) b) Unless
> it constituted spamming, with the tacit or explicit support of the
> server operator, it is still not valid grounds for a UDP.

It spreaded spam, because mail and name forgeries and bullshit content
are mostly considered spam.

> > According to the rumor mill, the disk at aioe failed. After that
> > the information occured that the operator is seriously ill. We
> > haven't hear from him for months.
>
> So, we're to believe that the deaths, one by one, of every
> no-registration free server over the past few months, after they'd
> been fixtures of the net for *decades*, is just coincidence and not a
> systematic assassination campaign?

You can try to contact Paolo (IIRC with was the name of the aioe
operator). But many people tried - no answer.

[Marco Moock]

Am 23.06.2023 um 11:49:05 Uhr schrieb Twisted One:

> I have to agree with Nadegda here. The proper process for debating
> and implementing a UDP was not followed. Instead some dickhead with
> an axe to grind acted unilaterally. If entire Usenet servers can now
> be subjected to a heckler's veto then it isn't Usenet anymore.

It was Hetzner (the VPS operator) that closed it. So ask them.
Just writing an abuse message isn't enough. They also ask the person
who rents the VPS, IIRC.

> I think you should restore both of the servers named and then submit
> proposals through the proper channels to have them UDP'd. And then
> accept it when you lose.

I cannot restore them. I don't run them, I don't have access to the
administration interface interface like SSH.

[Marco Moock]

Am 23.06.2023 um 19:13:29 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes,
> melt! On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:48:57 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>
> > Am 23.06.2023 um 16:45:09 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:

> It's amazing how fast you flip-flopped from gloating about it to
> denying having had anything to do with it.

I contacted Hetzner - nothing else. They decided to block it.

> > Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>
> So you claim. Please supply proof that it was a source of abuse OF the
> net (not just abuse ON the net) or retract your accusations, Mr.
> Koock. (That would include sending a letter to this Hetzner entity
> withdrawing your prior complaints to them, on behalf of yourself
> *and* all of your co-conspirators.)

You can use http://al.howardknight.net/ to view these messages:

Message-ID: <u6usap$oal8$3...@news.mixmin.net>
Message-ID: <u6usqe$odv2$1...@news.mixmin.net>
Message-ID: <u6t0qp$frui$2...@news.mixmin.net>
Message-ID: <u6t01f$fn2m$6...@news.mixmin.net>
Message-ID: <u6svg2$fn2m$2...@news.mixmin.net>
Message-ID: <u6s362$bp05$1...@news.mixmin.net>
Message-ID: <u6svv9$fjig$2...@news.mixmin.net>

Just look at the Form header. Such posts appeared for years from that
server.

> >> I hereby charge you with the obligation of reversing the damage
> >> that you have done over the past few months. In particular, you
> >> are to restore both mixmin *and* AIOE to normal, and once you have
> >> done so you are to post a public apology in this very newsgroup
> >> for your attempts to destroy this newsgroup's subject matter.
> >
> > According to the rumor mill,
>
> A reliable source if ever there was one.

Message-ID: <u1pm6i$6mq8$2...@dont-email.me>

m@ryz:~$ ping news.aioe.org
PING news.aioe.org (46.165.242.91) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 212.95.37.27 (212.95.37.27) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable

And no posts from him in aioe.*. I assume he at least cannot use
internet anymore.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:50:09 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>>Am 23.06.2023 schrieb Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>:

>>>Restore it to normal immediately.

>>This can only be done by Hetzner, but I don't think they will do it
>>until posting without authentication is disabled.

>Unacceptable.

Can't you create a sockpuppet capable of running a News server, Paul?

>For months now, you and several others have participated in an orchestrated
>campaign to shut off kensi's access to Usenet, despite the fact that she
>has done nothing to warrant this.

That's simply untrue. kensi stink, and stinks bad. All of your
sockpuppets stink, Paul. No one wants them on Usenet for the smell.

Do you need help with detergent, or can you afford it? Do you need
quarters for the laundry machine? Just ask. We all care about you. We
are here to help.

No one wants you to have filthy, unwashed, unlaundered, holely
sockpuppets, Paul.

>Your actions are morally wrong and you must undo whatever you did.

Don't worry about Marco. I'm offering detergent. I will help you, Paul.
I promise.

>If you will not do so otherwise, then kensi and I will pursue every
>available legal avenue to force you and your co- conspirators to do so,
>including this "Hetzner", which neither of us had even heard of, let
>alone interacted with, and which therefore would have no quarrel with
>kensi unless one or more of you influenced them.

Now now, Paul. No judge will let you into court with filthy, unwashed,
holey sockpuppets. Let me help you with your laundry, Paul. I realize
you just can't afford it.

>A further moral wrong arising from your actions is that free access to
>Usenet, and thus access by any person who doesn't have access to Western
>banking and credit cards, is now apparently a monopoly under the control of
>Ray Banana, and while I have not had any problem with him or his
>administration of E-S, I *do* have a problem with anyone, however
>apparently benevolent, being vested with so much power. Power corrupts.

You aren't a person. Neither is kensi. This would be why you don't have
a credit card. No credit cards for sockpuppets. The holes are so big it
would be impossible to retain them anyway.

>More generally, diversity is preferable to a monoculture, but you and your
>co-conspirators have been whittling away at the diversity of free usenet
>servers until there are virtually none left.

There's no diversity in sockpuppet creation, Paul. It's all you.

>One of you (Sn!pe) has accused both me and kensi at various times of
>"destroying" this newsgroup (whilst their trollish behavior, paranoid
>rants, and thread derailments did far more damage than anything either
>of us ever could have managed), but the greatest threat to this newsgroup
>is that its subject matter is an endangered species brought to the brink
>of extinction by ... you.

At no point has Sn!pe ever accused you of being human. Now you are just
flat out lying.

>I hereby charge you with the obligation of reversing the damage that you
>have done over the past few months. In particular, you are to restore both
>mixmin *and* AIOE to normal, and once you have done so you are to post a
>public apology in this very newsgroup for your attempts to destroy this
>newsgroup's subject matter. After that, you are to function as normal,
>ordinary usenet kooks, not supervillains, taking your various spanks as
>you earn them and ceasing to take money from the fossil fuel industry to
>silence kensi.

>Failure to comply is ... not recommended.

I charge you with being unwashed and stinky. Failure to wash is not
recommended.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:08:06 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

> It spreaded spam, because mail and name forgeries and bullshit content
> are mostly considered spam.

No, a Breidbart Index over 20 is considered spam.

You still seem to have severe deficits in your understanding of Usenet.
You are singularly unqualified to have the degree of influence over its
operations that you evidently have managed to dishonestly acquire.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:23:45 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

> Am 23.06.2023 um 19:13:29 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:
>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes,
>> melt! On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:48:57 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>>
>> > Am 23.06.2023 um 16:45:09 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:
>
>> It's amazing how fast you flip-flopped from gloating about it to
>> denying having had anything to do with it.
>
> I contacted Hetzner

Confession recorded.

Now contact them again and retract your complaint, as kensi has work
to do and your recent shenanigans are wrongfully obstructing her from
doing it.

>> > Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>>
>> So you claim. Please supply proof that it was a source of abuse OF the
>> net (not just abuse ON the net) or retract your accusations, Mr.
>> Koock. (That would include sending a letter to this Hetzner entity
>> withdrawing your prior complaints to them, on behalf of yourself
>> *and* all of your co-conspirators.)
>
> You can use http://al.howardknight.net/ to view these messages:
>
> Message-ID: <u6usap$oal8$3...@news.mixmin.net>
> Message-ID: <u6usqe$odv2$1...@news.mixmin.net>
> Message-ID: <u6t0qp$frui$2...@news.mixmin.net>
> Message-ID: <u6t01f$fn2m$6...@news.mixmin.net>
> Message-ID: <u6svg2$fn2m$2...@news.mixmin.net>
> Message-ID: <u6s362$bp05$1...@news.mixmin.net>
> Message-ID: <u6svv9$fjig$2...@news.mixmin.net>

All I see here is abuse ON the net. And nothing even approaching a BI of
20.

> Just look at the Form header. Such posts appeared for years from that
> server.

How fascinating. Some usenet posters are trolls. What a groundbreaking
discovery you have made.

But also clearly just an excuse and not the actual *reason* or you
would have launched this attack years ago. These posts weren't the
real reason for this; kensi was. Other people (probably paid shills of
Big Oil) have had a bee in their bonnet for years about kensi, and it
seems they recruited you to find some way to get the servers she uses
shut down.

I hope they paid you well. It would be a shame if you only got a pittance
in return for enduring what you are soon to endure at the hands of kensi.
(For reference, look up what happened to other people who unwisely decided
to tangle with her in the past. People like Fred Hall, AB, murphy, K-man,
Aratzio, and oh, so many more usenetters who, to the last one, are no
longer with us. Most of them lost their net access ... permanently. Many
were driven mad. Basket weaving is murphy's primary hobby now, whereas it
was morphing and harassment before he had the misfortune to try his shit
on kensi.)

> And no posts from him in aioe.*. I assume he at least cannot use
> internet anymore.

Frankly unbelievable, in this day and age, unless he's been kidnapped and
is being held incommunicado. In which case kensi will be the least of your
problems. Interpol will make kensi's wrath seem like a nice sunny day by
comparison.

[Jesse Rehmer]

On Jun 23, 2023 at 5:18:39 PM CDT, "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>
>>>> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>>>
>>> So you claim. Please supply proof that it was a source of abuse OF the
>>> net (not just abuse ON the net) or retract your accusations, Mr.
>>> Koock. (That would include sending a letter to this Hetzner entity
>>> withdrawing your prior complaints to them, on behalf of yourself
>>> *and* all of your co-conspirators.)
>>
>> You can use http://al.howardknight.net/ to view these messages:
>>
>> Message-ID: <u6usap$oal8$3...@news.mixmin.net>
>> Message-ID: <u6usqe$odv2$1...@news.mixmin.net>
>> Message-ID: <u6t0qp$frui$2...@news.mixmin.net>
>> Message-ID: <u6t01f$fn2m$6...@news.mixmin.net>
>> Message-ID: <u6svg2$fn2m$2...@news.mixmin.net>
>> Message-ID: <u6s362$bp05$1...@news.mixmin.net>
>> Message-ID: <u6svv9$fjig$2...@news.mixmin.net>
>
> All I see here is abuse ON the net. And nothing even approaching a BI of
> 20.

There have been several occasions in the past few months where millions of
identical messages were posted from news.mixmin.net in less than 24-hours.
Does that reach your bullshit threshold?

[Adam H. Kerman]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:08:06 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

>>It spreaded spam, because mail and name forgeries and bullshit content
>>are mostly considered spam.

>No, a Breidbart Index over 20 is considered spam.

cancellable spam, you blithering idiot, Paul

>You still seem to have severe deficits in your understanding of Usenet.
>You are singularly unqualified to have the degree of influence over its
>operations that you evidently have managed to dishonestly acquire.

Has anyone ever agreed with you, Paul?

[🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 19:26:14 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<u74rkl$3m66m$6...@dont-email.me>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:57:06 -0700, Twisted One wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:48:59 PM UTC-4, Marco Moock wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= hierarchy.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Trolling is not a valid reason for a UDP. Only permitting spam is.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider Hetzner in
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Germany.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= At, apparently, your behest, or that of a group consisting of you,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Stickers, Snipe, and Kerman who have decided *unilaterally* to forbid
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= no-registration usenet servers from operating. Four people attempting
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to impose their authoritarian vision on the entire populace,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= unasked-for.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Five. I think Jen Dershmender is in on it as well, sad to say.

Your "Poof Kookies" are highly anticipated, fuckhead... but at least you can put that notch in your belt that you think about me ALMOST as much as that one pedo in cali does.

Why would you think I am against an exaggerated caricature of an astronomer lady who doesn't really exist?

Surely, a bona-fide physicist would have understood Sine Waves and how to "sum" them by using a DIFFERENCE and intervened with Fakey's nonsensical bullshit.

I'm going to bet that not only is she NOT an astronomer, and NOT a person living in Finland or Sweden, I'm guessing that they aren't going to comment with "Gish Galloping" anymore.

Klaus is suggesting contacting Homeland Security beause he's about as fucking delusional as you.

HTH

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On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-4, stepha...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am Stephany Dice. I hope to make a new reliable, trustworthy and long term business relationship with you guys.
>
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>
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>
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> I do Overnight delivery, Next day delivery and Express Delivery that takes 3-5days.
>
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> 7) Nitrazepam 10mg
> 8) Ketamine Liquid
>
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>
> I have two main policies.
> (1) If your package doesn't reach you, I will reship or I will refund.
> (2) If you receive your order from me, you must post about it here and recommend it to others.
>
> How To Order:
> Contact;
> - Email: stephanydice1 @ gamil . com
> - Telegram ID: @StephanyDice
> - Wickr ID: stephanydice
> (I deliver any quantity)
>
> Best Regards
> Steph. Dice

You picked the right group ... we have a number of xanax and oxy addicts here in AC.

<snicker>



















=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= That is about as hostile to the spirit of Usenet as I can conceive.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Oh, I don't know, I think *one* person imposing an authoritarian vision
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= on all of Usenet would be even more so. :/
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= a) Do you have any proof of that? (Remember, "abuse" and "someone did
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= something I personally don't like" are *not* synonymous.) b) Unless it
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= constituted spamming, with the tacit or explicit support of the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= server operator, it is still not valid grounds for a UDP.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Point: Twisted One. Also, the procedure for deciding and, if agreed,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= imposing a UDP was not followed. Which makes Kerman's involvement in
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= this whole affair rather hypocritical on his part, given how much of a
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= stickler he usually is for the following of proper Usenet procedures in
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= such matters.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= According to the rumor mill, the disk at aioe failed. After that the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= information occured that the operator is seriously ill. We haven't hear
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= from him for months.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= So, we're to believe that the deaths, one by one, of every
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= no-registration free server over the past few months, after they'd been
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= fixtures of the net for *decades*, is just coincidence and not a
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= systematic assassination campaign? Methinks you forgot that a key
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= ingredient in plausible deniability is, well, *plausibility*.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Couldn't have said it better myself.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= SPANKY-SPANKY! on Koock and friends.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= And now that they have been thoroughly spanked, they have 48 hours to
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= get at least one of the servers they've attacked restored to normal
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= operation, or dire consequences will ensue. I won't even need to do
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= more than sit on the sidelines munching popcorn, because if they want a
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= war, kensi will give them a war!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=


--

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KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Proof, kook?

Even so, unless you can prove that this alleged spam came from kensi, it
doesn't constitute grounds for revoking kensi's usenet access.

[alf]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in
news:u75c3b$3m66m$1...@dont-email.me:

Anything from kensi with climate, global, warming, or truthout is spam.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

You know, people like you should be required to wear the logos of your
sponsors, kinda like NASCAR drivers. Which logo would you be wearing?
Shell? Exxon? BP?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 19:48:57, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote: (my
responses usually follow points raised):

> There are other free usenet servers available, e.g. solani.org,
> szaf.org, nntp4.net and others. Feel free to use them.

I went to https://szaf.org/ & http://nntp4.net/ but both are in German.

Is there an English language translation URL for each site?
I pasted their text into https://translate.google.com/

There's nothing on the szaf.org home page about how to get a free account.
Where is the information for obtaining a free account for szaf.org?

On the nntp4.net site there is a register link
http://nntp4.net/registrieren.php

But translated it says that registration is not available.
This is what I get (translated into English)......

Free user account
User accounts are free and can be deleted by the user
himself using the "Delete account" link in the control panel.
A multiple
registration with the same email address is not possible.

If you already
have a user account, you can log in here.
If you have forgotten your
password, please click here.

User registration not available !!
Your IP
address 127.0.0.1 comes from an IP network,
which is entered in the
blacklist of freedyn.de.
The registration of a user account is therefore
not available!

If you believe that this is a faulty entry, please contact
support.

Thank you for your understanding!

Error code: Reg-0x000010-IP
IP
address: 127.0.0.1
Provider:
Blacklist: VPN/Tor

I got that message using my normal IP address from my ISP.
Does everyone get the same message that they're coming from localhost?

[Marco Moock]

Am 23.06.2023 22:18 schrieb Nadegda:

> Now contact them again and retract your complaint, as kensi has work
> to do and your recent shenanigans are wrongfully obstructing her from
> doing it.

No, you can do it.

> >> > Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So you claim. Please supply proof that it was a source of abuse OF
> >> the net (not just abuse ON the net) or retract your accusations,
> >> Mr. Koock. (That would include sending a letter to this Hetzner
> >> entity withdrawing your prior complaints to them, on behalf of
> >> yourself *and* all of your co-conspirators.)
> >
> > You can use http://al.howardknight.net/ to view these messages:
> >
> > Message-ID: <u6usap$oal8$3...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Message-ID: <u6usqe$odv2$1...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Message-ID: <u6t0qp$frui$2...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Message-ID: <u6t01f$fn2m$6...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Message-ID: <u6svg2$fn2m$2...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Message-ID: <u6s362$bp05$1...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Message-ID: <u6svv9$fjig$2...@news.mixmin.net>
>
> All I see here is abuse ON the net. And nothing even approaching a BI
> of 20.

There are more, but I am too lazy to post all message ids here.

> > Just look at the Form header. Such posts appeared for years from
> > that server.
>
> How fascinating. Some usenet posters are trolls. What a groundbreaking
> discovery you have made.

That why it was blocked.

> But also clearly just an excuse and not the actual *reason* or you
> would have launched this attack years ago.

How funny. I am on Usenet since August/September 2021. I have contacted
Hetzner ~ a month ago.

> These posts weren't the real reason for this; kensi was. Other people
> (probably paid shills of Big Oil) have had a bee in their bonnet for
> years about kensi, and it seems they recruited you to find some way
> to get the servers she uses shut down.

Bullshit.

> I hope they paid you well.

Sadly, they didn't pay me.

> It would be a shame if you only got a pittance in return for enduring
> what you are soon to endure at the hands of kensi. (For reference,
> look up what happened to other people who unwisely decided to tangle
> with her in the past. People like Fred Hall, AB, murphy, K-man,
> Aratzio, and oh, so many more usenetters who, to the last one, are no
> longer with us.

I don't know them.

> Most of them lost their net access ... permanently.

Why should I?
There are many servers available, just need registration with an email
address.

> > And no posts from him in aioe.*. I assume he at least cannot use
> > internet anymore.
>
> Frankly unbelievable, in this day and age, unless he's been kidnapped
> and is being held incommunicado. In which case kensi will be the
> least of your problems. Interpol will make kensi's wrath seem like a
> nice sunny day by comparison.

Then contact interpol.

[Marco Moock]

Look at de.test and de.talk.tagesgeschehen.

[Marco Moock]

Am 24.06.2023 04:23 schrieb J. P. Gilliver (John):

> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 19:48:57, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
> (my responses usually follow points raised):
> > There are other free usenet servers available, e.g. solani.org,
> > szaf.org, nntp4.net and others. Feel free to use them.
>
> I went to https://szaf.org/ & http://nntp4.net/ but both are in
> German.
>
> Is there an English language translation URL for each site?

No.

> There's nothing on the szaf.org home page about how to get a free
> account. Where is the information for obtaining a free account for
> szaf.org?

You have to contact the administrator.
https://szaf.org/impressum/

You can also just use
https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
IIRC Thomas Hochstein operates both.

> On the nntp4.net site there is a register link
> http://nntp4.net/registrieren.php
>
> But translated it says that registration is not available.

Maybe your IP area is blocked. Contact them, so they unblock it.
http://nntp4.net/support.php

> User registration not available !!
> Your IP
> address 127.0.0.1 comes from an IP network,
> which is entered in the
> blacklist of freedyn.de.

127.0.0.1 can't be your public IPv4.

> Error code: Reg-0x000010-IP
> IP
> address: 127.0.0.1
> Provider:
> Blacklist: VPN/Tor

They block TOR access because many people use it to post spam.

> I got that message using my normal IP address from my ISP.
> Does everyone get the same message that they're coming from localhost?

You cannot come from localhost. ::1/128 and 127.0.0.0/8 aren't routed
at all.

You can also use open-news-network:
http://open-news-network.org/register

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 06:21:44 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

> Am 23.06.2023 22:18 schrieb Nadegda:
>
>> Now contact them again and retract your complaint, as kensi has work
>> to do and your recent shenanigans are wrongfully obstructing her from
>> doing it.
>
> No, you can do it.

I can't retract a complaint someone else made, dumbass.

>> It would be a shame if you only got a pittance in return for enduring
>> what you are soon to endure at the hands of kensi. (For reference,
>> look up what happened to other people who unwisely decided to tangle
>> with her in the past. People like Fred Hall, AB, murphy, K-man,
>> Aratzio, and oh, so many more usenetters who, to the last one, are no
>> longer with us.
>
> I don't know them.

That might change. You might end up as one of their cellmates.

<snicker>

[Sn!pe]

Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote:
[...]

> > >> All I see here is abuse ON the net. And nothing even approaching a BI of
> > >> 20.
> > >
> > > There have been several occasions in the past few months where millions of
> > > identical messages were posted from news.mixmin.net in less than 24-hours.
> >
> > Proof, kook?
> >
> > Even so, unless you can prove that this alleged spam came from kensi, it
> > doesn't constitute grounds for revoking kensi's usenet access.
>

> Perhaps "Kensi" should demand his money back...

You know what those head-in-the-clouds academic types such as
Professor Kensi are like. They have no idea about what money is,
nor how it works. Astrophysicists are above all that sort of thing.

[William Stickers]

On top of that the muppet seems to think that the use of
a free newsserver is a right.
Paul, you silly little wanker, the admins of the free
servers owe you nothing. Suck it up.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 06:21:44 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>>Am 23.06.2023 22:18 schrieb Nadegda:

>>>Now contact them again and retract your complaint, as kensi has work
>>>to do and your recent shenanigans are wrongfully obstructing her from
>>>doing it.

>>No, you can do it.

>I can't retract a complaint someone else made, dumbass.

"kensi" isn't a person, Paul.

>>>It would be a shame if you only got a pittance in return for enduring
>>>what you are soon to endure at the hands of kensi. (For reference,
>>>look up what happened to other people who unwisely decided to tangle
>>>with her in the past. People like Fred Hall, AB, murphy, K-man,
>>>Aratzio, and oh, so many more usenetters who, to the last one, are no
>>>longer with us.

>>I don't know them.

>That might change. You might end up as one of their cellmates.

><snicker>

Sad, Paul

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 23:45:48 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 04:39:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
> the following:

>
>> I can't retract a complaint someone else made, dumbass.
>

> Retract THIS! ====3

Judging by the maturity level of the latest round of responses, I've won
this argument.

Now someone get kensi back online!

[Marco Moock]

Am 24.06.2023 um 17:04:04 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:

> Now someone get kensi back online!

Run an newsserver and give her access to it. Do it NOW!

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Evidence that kensi thinks that?

Meanwhile, I wouldn't be surprised if you've lost more accounts, for cause,
than she's ever had, kook.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 00:29:33 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>

wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>

> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:18:39 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
> the following:
>

>> But also clearly just an excuse and not the actual *reason* or you
>> would have launched this attack years ago. These posts weren't the
>> real reason for this; kensi was. Other people (probably paid shills of
>> Big Oil) have had a bee in their bonnet for years about kensi, and it
>> seems they recruited you to find some way to get the servers she uses
>> shut down.
>

> Now you sounding k00kier than usual. Kensi couldn't put a gnat in "Big
> Oil's" bonnet. Even "Little Oil" doesn't care about the deranged rantings
> of a Klimate KooK of Kensi's diminutive sock size.

And yet, starting this spring there has been a powerful, orchestrated effort
to knock her offline and to keep her offline. How do you explain this? If
it's not the fossil fuel industry, then who is behind it, and what is their
motive?

(Also, if kensi is a mere sock as you allege, why has this effort been
directed solely at her?)

>> (For reference, look up what happened to other people who unwisely decided
>> to tangle with her in the past. People like Fred Hall, AB, murphy, K-man,
>> Aratzio, and oh, so many more usenetters who, to the last one, are no
>> longer with us. Most of them lost their net access ... permanently. Many
>> were driven mad. Basket weaving is murphy's primary hobby now, whereas it
>> was morphing and harassment before he had the misfortune to try his shit
>> on kensi.)
>

> "Kensi" has been known to claim spankage for normal Usenet attrition.

Proof, kook?

[🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:10:05 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Nadegda

<nad31...@gmail.invalid> determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in

<u7781d$3m66m$1...@dont-email.me>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 00:29:33 -0700, 💩 <rode...@jerry.time>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 💩. On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:18:39 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= audacity to say the following:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= But also clearly just an excuse and not the actual *reason* or you would
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= have launched this attack years ago. These posts weren't the real
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= reason for this; kensi was. Other people (probably paid shills of Big
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Oil) have had a bee in their bonnet for years about kensi, and it seems
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= they recruited you to find some way to get the servers she uses shut
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= down.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Now you sounding k00kier than usual. Kensi couldn't put a gnat in "Big
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Oil's" bonnet. Even "Little Oil" doesn't care about the deranged
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= rantings of a Klimate KooK of Kensi's diminutive sock size.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= And yet, starting this spring there has been a powerful, orchestrated
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= effort to knock her offline and to keep her offline. How do you explain
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= this? If it's not the fossil fuel industry, then who is behind it, and
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= what is their motive?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (Also, if kensi is a mere sock as you allege, why has this effort been
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= directed solely at her?)
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (For reference, look up what happened to other people who unwisely
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= decided to tangle with her in the past. People like Fred Hall, AB,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= murphy, K-man, Aratzio, and oh, so many more usenetters who, to the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= last one, are no longer with us. Most of them lost their net access ...
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= permanently. Many were driven mad. Basket weaving is murphy's primary
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= hobby now, whereas it was morphing and harassment before he had the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= misfortune to try his shit on kensi.)
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= "Kensi" has been known to claim spankage for normal Usenet attrition.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Proof, kook?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

She can use E-S.

HTH

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 19:26:14 +0000, Nadegda wrote:

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 11:57:06 -0700, Twisted One wrote:
>
>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:48:59 PM UTC-4, Marco Moock wrote:
>>> I don't know her and the reason was trolling in the German de.*

>>> hierarchy.

>>
>> Trolling is not a valid reason for a UDP. Only permitting spam is.
>>

>>> I didn't block Mixmin, it was blocked by the server provider Hetzner in

>>> Germany.

>>
>> At, apparently, your behest, or that of a group consisting of you,

>> Stickers, Snipe, and Kerman who have decided *unilaterally* to forbid

>> no-registration usenet servers from operating. Four people attempting to
>> impose their authoritarian vision on the entire populace, unasked-for.

>
> Five. I think Jen Dershmender is in on it as well, sad to say.

Make that six. KKKlaus SSchadenfreude of talk.politics.guns just confessed
to being involved in the campaign as well.

(Apologies for the crudity and childishness in KKKlaus's MID)

<c7be9i588k9loj6l1...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com>

Seems there are a *lot* of butthurt kooks seeking revenge against kensi
for her years upon years of daring to speak the truth on various issues.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 05:31:07, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
(my responses usually follow points raised):

>>> There are other free usenet servers available, e.g. solani.org,
>>> szaf.org, nntp4.net and others. Feel free to use them.
>>
>> I went to https://szaf.org/ & http://nntp4.net/ but both are in
>> German.
>>
>> Is there an English language translation URL for each site?
>
> No.

Thank you for your reply as there have been many free servers suggested
over the years on this newsgroup which, when tested, don't actually work.

>> There's nothing on the szaf.org home page about how to get a free
>> account. Where is the information for obtaining a free account for
>> szaf.org?
>
> You have to contact the administrator.
> https://szaf.org/impressum/

I don't know German so I looked up what "impressum" means in English.
https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=impressum&op=translate

Apparently it means "imprint" in English, but that doesn't mean much in
this context of a contact to the web administrator, does it?

Translating that "imprint" web page, we get the contact information though.

"Responsible for the content of these websites
Thomas Hochstein
Pine path 7
67434 Neustadt/Wstr.
t...@thh.name
right

The rights to the texts published here are generally owned by the
operator, unless otherwise indicated, and are subject to copyright law,
i.e. they may not be distributed or duplicated without prior consent."

I guess a question is what does "name" mean in this context.
Presumably "name" translates to "szaf.org", is that correct?
See below that "name" might be "news.tota-refugium.de" instead?
Or (see below) does "name" translate to "freedyn.de" instead?

> You can also just use
> https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
> IIRC Thomas Hochstein operates both.

That's better! Thank you for that link which comes up in German.
But which site is that for? szaf.org? nntp4.net?

Anyway, here's what that translates to in English.
"So you want to register to use news.tota-refugium.de?
Signing up is very easy:
Read our Terms of Use. Since human and technical aspects are important
when participating in Usenet, we must insist on compliance with these
terms of use.
Fill out the form below and send it off.
You will receive your access data after activation of your access to
the specified e-mail address, so please enter a valid e-mail address
that belongs to you, otherwise you will not receive any access data.
Log in
E-mail address
Yes, I have read and accept the terms of use.
Save"

>> On the nntp4.net site there is a register link
>> http://nntp4.net/registrieren.php
>>
>> But translated it says that registration is not available.
>
> Maybe your IP area is blocked. Contact them, so they unblock it.
> http://nntp4.net/support.php

That looks good as it seems to be a contact form that should work.
Translated, this is what it says in English.

"contact
Contact details:
Support: sup...@freedyn.de
Abuse: ab...@freedyn.de
Contact Form
Your form of address: / Your salutation:
Your name: / Your name:
Company: / Company: (not required)
Your email: / Your email:
Subject:
Description: / Description:
I have read the privacy policy and accept it.
I have read and accept the privacy policy.
All entries are transmitted via an encrypted connection.
All inputs are transmitted via an encrypted connection."

>> User registration not available !!
>> Your IP
>> address 127.0.0.1 comes from an IP network,
>> which is entered in the
>> blacklist of freedyn.de.
>
> 127.0.0.1 can't be your public IPv4.

Tell me about it.
That's why I asked others to see if they got the same thing.

I happened to try it at a nearby hotspot down the street.
At the hotspot it gave me the IP address of the hotspot.
But it still wouldn't let me register.

Likewise, I walked over to the parking lot of the public library.
That time it gave me the 127.0.0.1 instead of the library IP address.

But none of those three tests allowed me to create the account.
Which is why I asked if it allowed anyone else here to create it.

>> Error code: Reg-0x000010-IP
>> IP
>> address: 127.0.0.1
>> Provider:
>> Blacklist: VPN/Tor
>
> They block TOR access because many people use it to post spam.

Understood. They also block my IP address, a hotspot and the library.

>> I got that message using my normal IP address from my ISP.
>> Does everyone get the same message that they're coming from localhost?
>
> You cannot come from localhost. ::1/128 and 127.0.0.0/8 aren't routed
> at all.

Tell me about it.
The web page is probably running something that failed.

> You can also use open-news-network:
> http://open-news-network.org/register

That comes up with a web page in German which translates to this.
"Open News Network registration
Please fill out the fields.
What code is shown in the picture?
E-mail address:
real name:
I have read the terms of use and agree to them by saving my data.
The data given here for real name and e-mail address are only used
for internal purposes (sending user data, communication from ONNO)."

Before I sign up for any or all of them, I'm confused so may I ask a
question that you seem to know the answer to but I don't know it yet.

Are these four different servers or the same one?

https://szaf.org/impressum/
http://nntp4.net/support.php
https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
http://open-news-network.org/register

[Adam H. Kerman]

Didn't I say this days ago?

Also, "kensi" doesn't exist.

[Sn!pe]

No! Say it ain't so!! I'm Professor Kensington's biggest fan !!!1!

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:27:18 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
>
> > Sn!pe wrote:
> >>
> >> Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> > > >> All I see here is abuse ON the net. And nothing even approaching a BI of
> >> > > >> 20.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There have been several occasions in the past few months where millions of
> >> > > > identical messages were posted from news.mixmin.net in less than 24-hours.
> >> > >
> >> > > Proof, kook?
> >> > >
> >> > > Even so, unless you can prove that this alleged spam came from kensi, it
> >> > > doesn't constitute grounds for revoking kensi's usenet access.
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps "Kensi" should demand his money back...
> >>
> >> You know what those head-in-the-clouds academic types such as
> >> Professor Kensi are like. They have no idea about what money is,
> >> nor how it works. Astrophysicists are above all that sort of thing.
> >
> > On top of that the muppet seems to think that the use of
> > a free newsserver is a right.
>
> Evidence that kensi thinks that?

You are the evidence that he thinks that.

> Meanwhile, I wouldn't be surprised if you've lost more accounts, for cause,
> than she's ever had, kook.

Proof, kook.

<snicker>

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:05:56 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

> Nadegda wrote:
>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:27:18 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
>>
>> > Sn!pe wrote:
>> >
>> >> Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time> <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >> > > >> All I see here is abuse ON the net. And nothing even approaching a BI of
>> >> > > >> 20.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > There have been several occasions in the past few months where millions of
>> >> > > > identical messages were posted from news.mixmin.net in less than 24-hours.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Proof, kook?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Even so, unless you can prove that this alleged spam came from kensi, it
>> >> > > doesn't constitute grounds for revoking kensi's usenet access.
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps "Kensi" should demand his money back...
>> >>
>> >> You know what those head-in-the-clouds academic types such as
>> >> Professor Kensi are like. They have no idea about what money is,
>> >> nor how it works. Astrophysicists are above all that sort of thing.
>> >
>> > On top of that the muppet seems to think that the use of
>> > a free newsserver is a right.
>>
>> Evidence that kensi thinks that?
>
> You are the evidence that he

She

> thinks that.

Non sequitur.

[William Stickers]

Show us yer tits, Paul!

[Marco Moock]

Am 24.06.2023 um 19:49:36 Uhr schrieb J. P. Gilliver (John):

> >> There's nothing on the szaf.org home page about how to get a free
> >> account. Where is the information for obtaining a free account for
> >> szaf.org?
> >
> > You have to contact the administrator.
> > https://szaf.org/impressum/
>
> I don't know German so I looked up what "impressum" means in English.
> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=impressum&op=translate
>
> Apparently it means "imprint" in English, but that doesn't mean much
> in this context of a contact to the web administrator, does it?

The person in the impress is the operator IIRC.

> I guess a question is what does "name" mean in this context.
> Presumably "name" translates to "szaf.org", is that correct?
> See below that "name" might be "news.tota-refugium.de" instead?
> Or (see below) does "name" translate to "freedyn.de" instead?

tota-refugium and szaf.org are different servers.

> > You can also just use
> > https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
> > IIRC Thomas Hochstein operates both.
>
> That's better! Thank you for that link which comes up in German.
> But which site is that for? szaf.org? nntp4.net?

tota-refugium is another news server.

> >> User registration not available !!
> >> Your IP
> >> address 127.0.0.1 comes from an IP network,
> >> which is entered in the
> >> blacklist of freedyn.de.
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 can't be your public IPv4.
>
> Tell me about it.

Read the RFCs about IPv4 and IPv6 address types. Localhost (127.0.0.0/8
and ::1/128 are onyl for communication inside your computer. You cannot
connect to other computers using that address.

> I happened to try it at a nearby hotspot down the street.
> At the hotspot it gave me the IP address of the hotspot.
> But it still wouldn't let me register.

Which one did it gave to you?

> Likewise, I walked over to the parking lot of the public library.
> That time it gave me the 127.0.0.1 instead of the library IP address.

Wrong, you cannot use 127.0.0.0/8 to connect to other computers.

> But none of those three tests allowed me to create the account.
> Which is why I asked if it allowed anyone else here to create it.

My IPv6 network (hurricane electric IPv6 in IPv4 tunnel) is also
blocked.

> >> Error code: Reg-0x000010-IP
> >> IP
> >> address: 127.0.0.1
> >> Provider:
> >> Blacklist: VPN/Tor
> >
> > They block TOR access because many people use it to post spam.
>
> Understood. They also block my IP address, a hotspot and the library.

What is that IP address?
Does the error message really gives you that IP?

> >> I got that message using my normal IP address from my ISP.
> >> Does everyone get the same message that they're coming from
> >> localhost?
> >
> > You cannot come from localhost. ::1/128 and 127.0.0.0/8 aren't
> > routed at all.
>
> Tell me about it.
> The web page is probably running something that failed.

Then send an email to the support.

> > You can also use open-news-network:
> > http://open-news-network.org/register
>
> That comes up with a web page in German which translates to this.
> "Open News Network registration
> Please fill out the fields.
> What code is shown in the picture?
> E-mail address:
> real name:
> I have read the terms of use and agree to them by saving my data.
> The data given here for real name and e-mail address are only used
> for internal purposes (sending user data, communication from ONNO)."
>
> Before I sign up for any or all of them, I'm confused so may I ask a
> question that you seem to know the answer to but I don't know it yet.
>
> Are these four different servers or the same one?
>
> https://szaf.org/impressum/
> http://nntp4.net/support.php
> https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
> http://open-news-network.org/register

These are 4 different servers.

[🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:09:42 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; The Pathetic
Anti-Muslim Wannabe Homegrown Terrorist who is too cowardly to reply to
me anymore and is cowering in his boogaloo-boi bunker Posting as ""💩
<mode...@jelly.time>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm>" determined that the

following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely

share it with us in <MPG.3f00fb74f...@usnews.blocknews.net>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=Warning!AlwayswearANSIapprovedsafetygoggleswhenreadingpostsby
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=💩.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=OnSat,24Jun202317:10:05-0000(UTC),Nadegdahadtheaudacityto
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=saythefollowing:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=Nowyousoundingk00kierthanusual.Kensicouldn'tputagnatin"Big
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=Oil's"bonnet.Even"LittleOil"doesn'tcareaboutthederanged
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=rantingsofaKlimateKooKofKensi'sdiminutivesocksize.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=Andyet,startingthisspringtherehasbeenapowerful,orchestrated
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=efforttoknockherofflineandtokeepheroffline.Howdoyouexplain
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=this?Ifit'snotthefossilfuelindustry,thenwhoisbehindit,and
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=whatistheirmotive?(Also,ifkensiisameresockasyouallege,why
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=hasthiseffortbeendirectedsolelyather?)
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?="Kensi"isfreetospendmerechumpchangeonarealnewsserverlike
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=mostpeoplewitheventhemostmodestincomesmanagetodo.Ispent
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=twentybucksforabunchofgigsfromBlocknewsbackwhenCCshutdown
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=Altopia,andI'mstillpostingonthatsametwentybuckstoday.How
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=longhasitbeen...ayearorso?SurelyaProfessorofAstrophysics
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=whospecializesinEarthlyClimateAlarmismmakesenoughmoneyto
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=afford<$20ayeartodoherveryimportant"work"insteadofseemingly
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=beingheldhostagebythegenerosityorwhimsofothers.Seriously,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=you'dhavetobeatrollorawankertomilkthismuchdramaoversuch
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=atrivialandeasily-solvedissue.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

Or, you know... kensi could just use E-S except it would show the same "posting host" hash as Nads when she posts like happened those many other times. NARF!

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 21:43:46, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote: (my

responses usually follow points raised):

>>>> There's nothing on the szaf.org home page about how to get a free
>>>> account. Where is the information for obtaining a free account for
>>>> szaf.org?
>>>
>>> You have to contact the administrator.
>>> https://szaf.org/impressum/
>>
>> I don't know German so I looked up what "impressum" means in English.
>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=impressum&op=translate
>>
>> Apparently it means "imprint" in English, but that doesn't mean much
>> in this context of a contact to the web administrator, does it?
>
> The person in the impress is the operator IIRC.

Thanks for responding as on this newsgroup, probably 100 out of 101
suggestions for "free news servers" turns out to not be the case when you
actually try them.

>> I guess a question is what does "name" mean in this context.
>> Presumably "name" translates to "szaf.org", is that correct?
>> See below that "name" might be "news.tota-refugium.de" instead?
>> Or (see below) does "name" translate to "freedyn.de" instead?
>
> tota-refugium and szaf.org are different servers.

Thanks. I see below that it's four different servers. None of which worked
yet but I'll try them (but I suspect none will actually work when tried).

>
>>> You can also just use
>>> https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
>>> IIRC Thomas Hochstein operates both.
>>
>> That's better! Thank you for that link which comes up in German.
>> But which site is that for? szaf.org? nntp4.net?
>
> tota-refugium is another news server.

Thanks. I'll try all four but I don't think any will work because I've been
down this road where 100 out of 101 listed "free" news servers don't work.

>
>>>> User registration not available !!
>>>> Your IP
>>>> address 127.0.0.1 comes from an IP network,
>>>> which is entered in the
>>>> blacklist of freedyn.de.
>>>
>>> 127.0.0.1 can't be your public IPv4.
>>
>> Tell me about it.
>
> Read the RFCs about IPv4 and IPv6 address types. Localhost (127.0.0.0/8
> and ::1/128 are onyl for communication inside your computer. You cannot
> connect to other computers using that address.

I know that. You know that. Everyone knows that. We all know that.
It's a bug in the script on the web page that "thinks" I'm on localhost.

>
>> I happened to try it at a nearby hotspot down the street.
>> At the hotspot it gave me the IP address of the hotspot.
>> But it still wouldn't let me register.
>
> Which one did it gave to you?

It was the hotspot of the IP address. I didn't write it down.
But I ran a curl reported the correct hotspot IP address.
curl icanhazip.com

It's the web page which is bad.

>> Likewise, I walked over to the parking lot of the public library.
>> That time it gave me the 127.0.0.1 instead of the library IP address.
>
> Wrong, you cannot use 127.0.0.0/8 to connect to other computers.

I know that. You know that. Everyone knows that. We all know that.
It's a bug in the script on the web page that "thinks" I'm on localhost.

I'm not. A curl reports the correct IP address.
curl ifconfig.me

The web page is bad.

>> But none of those three tests allowed me to create the account.
>> Which is why I asked if it allowed anyone else here to create it.
>
> My IPv6 network (hurricane electric IPv6 in IPv4 tunnel) is also
> blocked.

What it may be doing is blocking all non-German IP addresses perhaps?

>
>>>> Error code: Reg-0x000010-IP
>>>> IP
>>>> address: 127.0.0.1
>>>> Provider:
>>>> Blacklist: VPN/Tor
>>>
>>> They block TOR access because many people use it to post spam.
>>
>> Understood. They also block my IP address, a hotspot and the library.
>
> What is that IP address?
> Does the error message really gives you that IP?

The web page is giving the wrong error message.
The real IP address is given by a curl command.
curl ichanzip.com
curl ifconfig.me

>>>> I got that message using my normal IP address from my ISP.
>>>> Does everyone get the same message that they're coming from
>>>> localhost?
>>>
>>> You cannot come from localhost. ::1/128 and 127.0.0.0/8 aren't
>>> routed at all.
>>
>> Tell me about it.
>> The web page is probably running something that failed.
>
> Then send an email to the support.

He probably knows this since EVERY attempt fails.
I suspect he's blocking everything that isn't coming from Germany.
But I have no way of knowing that. I just know I tried 3 ISPs.
All three failed.

>
>>> You can also use open-news-network:
>>> http://open-news-network.org/register
>>
>> That comes up with a web page in German which translates to this.
>> "Open News Network registration
>> Please fill out the fields.
>> What code is shown in the picture?
>> E-mail address:
>> real name:
>> I have read the terms of use and agree to them by saving my data.
>> The data given here for real name and e-mail address are only used
>> for internal purposes (sending user data, communication from ONNO)."
>>
>> Before I sign up for any or all of them, I'm confused so may I ask a
>> question that you seem to know the answer to but I don't know it yet.
>>
>> Are these four different servers or the same one?
>>
>> https://szaf.org/impressum/
>> http://nntp4.net/support.php
>> https://register.tota-refugium.de/wizard/index.php?instance=reg_usenet_user&mode=new
>> http://open-news-network.org/register
>
> These are 4 different servers.

Thanks. Generally 100 out of 101 suggested "free" servers doesn't work.
But maybe we can get one of those four to work. I'll keep trying.

Thank you for your kind help!

[Ray Banana]

On 10890 September 1993, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

>> The person in the impress is the operator IIRC.
> Thanks for responding as on this newsgroup, probably 100 out of 101
> suggestions for "free news servers" turns out to not be the case when you
> actually try them.

The German word "Impressum" mean "Legal Notice" in the context of web
sites. Such information is compulsory for business web sites.

>>> I guess a question is what does "name" mean in this context.
>>> Presumably "name" translates to "szaf.org", is that correct?
>>> See below that "name" might be "news.tota-refugium.de" instead?
>>> Or (see below) does "name" translate to "freedyn.de" instead?

AFAIR szaf.org is not a public news server, it's a closed community of
people who consider themselves to be "szafe" ("Schafe"/sheep as
pronounced by people with a lisp).

--
Too many ingredients in the soup, no room for a spoon
http://www.eternal-september.org

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:42:21 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by

> Checkmate.
>
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:59:24 +0100, William Stickers had the audacity to
> say the following:

[snip]

> He has ass burgers,

Who does? Stickers? If anyone here is showing all of the classic signs I'd
say it's Kerman. But I am not a doctor, so ...

> and so does his imaginary friend "Kensi".

Proof, kook? I'm not aware that kensi has ever been diagnosed with anything
of the sort, and if she has she sure as hell wouldn't have shared it with
*you*, or posted it publicly anywhere. Also, she's not imaginary and she's
no friend of Kerman's.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 08:18:07, Ray Banana <ray...@raybanana.net> wrote:
(my responses usually follow points raised):

>>> The person in the impress is the operator IIRC.
>> Thanks for responding as on this newsgroup, probably 100 out of 101
>> suggestions for "free news servers" turns out to not be the case when you
>> actually try them.
>
> The German word "Impressum" mean "Legal Notice" in the context of web
> sites. Such information is compulsory for business web sites.

Thank you Mr. Weyand for that expert explanation as it didn't make sense to
me from the Google translation - but your explanation does make sense.

https://szaf.org/impressum/ <=> Legal Notice

>>>> I guess a question is what does "name" mean in this context.
>>>> Presumably "name" translates to "szaf.org", is that correct?
>>>> See below that "name" might be "news.tota-refugium.de" instead?
>>>> Or (see below) does "name" translate to "freedyn.de" instead?
>
> AFAIR szaf.org is not a public news server, it's a closed community of
> people who consider themselves to be "szafe" ("Schafe"/sheep as
> pronounced by people with a lisp).

Ah. Thank you again for explaining that as I've been on this newsgroup for,
oh, I don't know, decades, where 100 out of 101 suggestions don't work.

I'll try the other three suggestions kindly proposed by Mr. Moock.

[Marco Moock]

Am 25.06.2023 09:18 schrieb Ray Banana:

> AFAIR szaf.org is not a public news server, it's a closed community of
> people who consider themselves to be "szafe" ("Schafe"/sheep as
> pronounced by people with a lisp).

Is it really online open for these people?
Doesn't Thomas Hochstein accept every user that can behave?
I remember that I read that in the past.

[Sn!pe]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:42:21 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
> wrote:
>
> > Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> > Checkmate.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:59:24 +0100, William Stickers had the audacity to
> > say the following:
>
> [snip]
>
> > He has ass burgers,
>
> Who does? Stickers? If anyone here is showing all of the classic signs I'd
> say it's Kerman. But I am not a doctor, so ...
>
> > and so does his imaginary friend "Kensi".
>
> Proof, kook? I'm not aware that kensi has ever been diagnosed with anything
> of the sort, and if she has she sure as hell wouldn't have shared it with
> *you*, or posted it publicly anywhere. Also, she's not imaginary and she's
> no friend of Kerman's.
>

Can you confirm that your friend Professor "kensi" Kensington is an
astrophysicist currently working in Finland at a university there?

That is what you have told us before; is it true or not? It's a simple
question but I'll wager that you can't answer without prevarication.

[William Stickers]

Sn!pe wrote:
>
> Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> > On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:42:21 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> > > Checkmate.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:59:24 +0100, William Stickers had the audacity to
> > > say the following:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > He has ass burgers,
> >
> > Who does? Stickers? If anyone here is showing all of the classic signs I'd
> > say it's Kerman. But I am not a doctor, so ...
> >
> > > and so does his imaginary friend "Kensi".
> >
> > Proof, kook? I'm not aware that kensi has ever been diagnosed with anything
> > of the sort, and if she has she sure as hell wouldn't have shared it with
> > *you*, or posted it publicly anywhere. Also, she's not imaginary and she's
> > no friend of Kerman's.
> >
>
> Can you confirm that your friend Professor "kensi" Kensington is an
> astrophysicist currently working in Finland at a university there?

And uses a VPN located in Pembroke, Ontario.
Also, does he have nice tits?

> That is what you have told us before; is it true or not? It's a simple
> question but I'll wager that you can't answer without prevarication.

Natch.

[Ray Banana]

On 10890 September 1993, Marco Moock wrote:

> Am 25.06.2023 09:18 schrieb Ray Banana:
>> AFAIR szaf.org is not a public news server, it's a closed community of
>> people who consider themselves to be "szafe" ("Schafe"/sheep as
>> pronounced by people with a lisp).
> Is it really online open for these people?
> Doesn't Thomas Hochstein accept every user that can behave?

Not as far as I know. And I know at least one person who was begging and
pleading to be admitted, but to no avail.

Maybe you are confusing szaf.org with tota-refugium.de, the t-online.de
memorial site?

[Adam H. Kerman]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:42:21 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time> wrote:

>[snip]

>>He has ass burgers,

>Who does? Stickers? If anyone here is showing all of the classic signs I'd
>say it's Kerman. But I am not a doctor, so ...

>>and so does his imaginary friend "Kensi".

>Proof, kook? I'm not aware that kensi has ever been diagnosed with anything
>of the sort, and if she has she sure as hell wouldn't have shared it with
>*you*, or posted it publicly anywhere. Also, she's not imaginary and she's
>no friend of Kerman's.

Please do not misrepresent my position, Paul. kensi is not a person and
is an "it", not female. It does not exist. Similarly, Nadegda is not a
person and is an "it", not female. It does not exist.

Your thousands of sockpuppets are "its", Paul. And they all desperately
need laundering. You stink, Paul. I can smell your stink from here, Paul.

[Sn!pe]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

> Sn!pe wrote:
> >
> > Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:42:21 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
> > > wrote:

[...]

> > > > and so does his imaginary friend "Kensi".
> > > >
> > >
> > > Proof, kook? I'm not aware that kensi has ever been diagnosed with
> > > anything of the sort, and if she has she sure as hell wouldn't have
> > > shared it with *you*, or posted it publicly anywhere. Also, she's not
> > > imaginary and she's no friend of Kerman's.
> > >
> >
> > Can you confirm that your friend Professor "kensi" Kensington is an
> > astrophysicist currently working in Finland at a university there?
> >
>
> And uses a VPN located in Pembroke, Ontario.
> Also, does he have nice tits?
>
> >
> > That is what you have told us before; is it true or not? It's a simple
> > question but I'll wager that you can't answer without prevarication.
> >
>
> Natch.
>

Where'd he go? Has he run away ~again?~ I suppose that's proof
enough that "kensi" is just yet another figment of Paul Derbyshire's
fevered imagination. Ho-hum...

[Computer Nerd Kev]

In alt.free.newsservers Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
> If anybody is wondering why Mixmin isn't accessible anymore:
> The host Hetzner shut it down because it has been abused by spammers,
> especially in the hierarchy de.*.

Connecting to news.mixmin.net...
news.mixmin.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.8.0 (20230529
prerelease) ready (posting ok)

But when attempting to post it seems to always reply that you're
not allowed to post to any group you try to post to. It looks like
it's gone read-only now, like Neodome.

--
__ __
#_ < |\| |< _#

[anon]

n...@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote in
news:6498...@news.ausics.net:

It's just restricted for certain assholes.

If you behave yourself you're okay.

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

Connecting to news.mixmin.net...
news.mixmin.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.8.0 (20230529
prerelease) ready (posting ok)

But when attempting to post it seems to always reply that you're
not allowed to post to any group you try to post to. It looks like
it's gone read-only now, like Neodome.

It was nothing to do with "Hetzner Online GmbH" blocking Steve Crook. Whoever was spreading that rumour should be ashamed of himself.

MixMin is still hosted on German Nazi servers (IP 144.76.182.167) and there is no way they can block a fee paying customer. The customer is paying by the by the band-width consumed (I imagine) so why should German Nazi worry about spam. They get paid for everything so they should just shut up and let the customer run his newsgroups. It's easy money for any hosts because they have no need to worry about support costs. Customer manages his own servers and the only time he needs to contact them is when there is catastrophic fault because of some hacker managed to penetrate the firewall. Putin's Wagner army is disbanded so that's not a problem now for us but it might be a problem for the dictator.

Arrest

Dictator Putin

We Stand

With Ukraine

Stop Putin

Ukraine Under Attack

--
https://www.microsoft.com

[Marco Moock]

Am 26.06.2023 um 09:08:59 Uhr schrieb Computer Nerd Kev:

> Connecting to news.mixmin.net...
> news.mixmin.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.8.0 (20230529
> prerelease) ready (posting ok)
>
> But when attempting to post it seems to always reply that you're
> not allowed to post to any group you try to post to. It looks like
> it's gone read-only now, like Neodome.

IPv6 is still blocked.

IPv4 port 119 works, but I cannot post to de.test.

IPv4 port 563 denies posting at all.

[Marco Moock]

Do you know the restrictions?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 12:14:06, Ray Banana <ray...@raybanana.net> wrote:
(my responses usually follow points raised):

>>> AFAIR szaf.org is not a public news server, it's a closed community of
>>> people who consider themselves to be "szafe" ("Schafe"/sheep as
>>> pronounced by people with a lisp).
>> Is it really online open for these people?
>> Doesn't Thomas Hochstein accept every user that can behave?
>
> Not as far as I know. And I know at least one person who was begging and
> pleading to be admitted, but to no avail.
>
> Maybe you are confusing szaf.org with tota-refugium.de, the t-online.de
> memorial site?

Thanks for that information. I can't find the szaf.org admin address, but
even with it, from what is being said, there's no chance of obtaining a new
free account from them anyway.

Unfortunately, as so often happens when people kindly suggest "free" news
servers on this newsgroup, the other three also failed spectacularly.

https://i.postimg.cc/fRykCwZz/nntp4com.jpg
"Benutzerrigistrierung nicht verfugbar!!
ihre IP-Address 127.0.0.1 stammt aus einem IP-Netz, welches in der
Blacklist von FreeDYN.de eingetragen ist. Die Registrierung eines
Benutzerkontos ist daher nicht verfugbar!"

https://i.postimg.cc/5y9ft324/totacom.jpg
"An error occurred during execution of your request. Please try again
later. Please contact ro...@weretis.net if the problem persists."

They each failed probably due to a variety of different reasons, where the
only one that looked like it was going to work never send the confirmation
email (after waiting for 2 days for that confirmation - it never came).

https://i.postimg.cc/bNCwsKnK/opennewsorg.jpg

Out of the five suggestions, only solani worked, which fits that out of 101
free newsserver suggestions offered on this newsgroup, only one ever works.

[Rotating sock]

On 26 Jun 2023, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> posted some
news:u7c1qh$uqhj$2...@dont-email.me:

LMAO!

[Steve Crook]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:48:57 +0200, Marco Moock wrote in
Message-Id: <u74pep$1kq20$1...@solani.org>:

>> More generally, diversity is preferable to a monoculture, but you and
>> your co-conspirators have been whittling away at the diversity of
>> free usenet servers until there are virtually none left.
>
> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.

It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
a) Not abuse the service they enjoy
b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to read.

Unfortunately I'm, seemingly, wrong on both counts and September really
is eternal. On this occasion I've apologised to Hetzner and explained
that I've blocked posting to Usenet. That begs the question why I'm
bothering to spend $70 a month renting a server that people can't use.

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And with glasses high we raised a cry for freedom had arrived

[Paul]

If you see Steves (the admin) comment upthread, it's a very precise filter indeed now.

But that's how life on USENET goes. "You can't have nice things".

Paul

[Sn!pe]

If it stops that dreadful bore "kensi" from Pembroke spamming Usenet
with "her" interminable "The Sky Is Falling" climate-doom obsession,
that's a very good thing.

Don't you think so, Paul? I'm sure "her" friend "Nadgeda" would agree.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

That is also not acceptable as kensi must be permitted to post.

Stop fucking around and just put everything back the way it was last
December.

[Purple Spang]

On 26 Jun 2023, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> posted some
news:u7d1ta$13ahh$1...@dont-email.me:

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:08:59 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>
>> In alt.free.newsservers Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
>>> If anybody is wondering why Mixmin isn't accessible anymore:
>>> The host Hetzner shut it down because it has been abused by spammers,
>>> especially in the hierarchy de.*.
>>
>> Connecting to news.mixmin.net...
>> news.mixmin.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.8.0 (20230529
>> prerelease) ready (posting ok)
>>
>> But when attempting to post it seems to always reply that you're
>> not allowed to post to any group you try to post to. It looks like
>> it's gone read-only now, like Neodome.
>
> That is also not acceptable as kensi must be permitted to post.
>
> Stop fucking around and just put everything back the way it was last
> December.

To be fair we should vote on this. I vote no.

--
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/ /
/' _'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
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'\' _.7'
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[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 26/06/2023 20:03, Steve Crook wrote:

That begs the question why I'm bothering to spend $70 a month renting a server that people can't use.

Steve,

Have you thought of changing the hosts to Contabo? They seem to be quite reasonable and the prices are disclosed up front.

<https://contabo.com/en>

$70.00 per month is a rip off IMO and you are financing their Nazi activities. I wouldn't waste time on hetzner. Alternative is to use Azure, GCP, AWS or Oracle. I am using Oracle Free Tier for websites but you can also run news-servers as well.

[Minoru Osaka]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:03:20 -0000 (UTC), Steve Crook wrote:

>> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>
> It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
> users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
> a) Not abuse the service they enjoy
> b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to read.
>
> Unfortunately I'm, seemingly, wrong on both counts and September really
> is eternal. On this occasion I've apologised to Hetzner and explained
> that I've blocked posting to Usenet. That begs the question why I'm
> bothering to spend $70 a month renting a server that people can't use.

I, for one, commend you for having allowed people to post privately for
years and for standing your ground on principle alone for most of us.

Looking in my logs which date back to at least twenty years, these existed.
freenews.netfront.net:119 [blank/blank]
news.dizum.net:119 [blank/blank]
news.mixmin.net:119 [blank/blank]
news.neodome.net:119 [blank/blank]
news.tambov.ru:119 [blank/blank]
paganini.bofh.team:119 [blank/blank]
reader.albasani.net:119 [readonly/readonly]

One by one, the spammers have been aiming to destroy the truly free (as in
freedom for privacy) news servers that have been suggested on this group.

I don't know how Ivo manages to not require pre registration, but you've
gone the way that Paolo and Alex and others had to go, unfortunately.

I am eternally grateful to you for having stood up for your principles.

And while you'll likely only reap scorn on this newsgroup, you have the
gratitude of many others who will not reply (or even see this message).

Thank you for valiantly trying to preserve our privacy on Usenet.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 20:43:16 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>

wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>

> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:02:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
> the following:
>

>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:08:59 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>
>> > In alt.free.newsservers Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
>> >> If anybody is wondering why Mixmin isn't accessible anymore:
>> >> The host Hetzner shut it down because it has been abused by spammers,
>> >> especially in the hierarchy de.*.
>> >
>> > Connecting to news.mixmin.net...
>> > news.mixmin.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.8.0 (20230529
>> > prerelease) ready (posting ok)
>> >
>> > But when attempting to post it seems to always reply that you're
>> > not allowed to post to any group you try to post to. It looks like
>> > it's gone read-only now, like Neodome.
>>
>> That is also not acceptable as kensi must be permitted to post.
>>
>> Stop fucking around and just put everything back the way it was last
>> December.
>

> Your impotent demands are futile.

Shuddup, kook.

[Marco Moock]

Am 26.06.2023 um 19:03:20 Uhr schrieb Steve Crook:

> It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
> users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
> a) Not abuse the service they enjoy

People will do this.

> b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
> read.

Not possible. Many trolls came via Mixmin to post a lot of bullshit
with continuously changing names and mail addresses.

Then some other people answer to these posts from other servers and
complain.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:15:13 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:

> Am 26.06.2023 um 19:03:20 Uhr schrieb Steve Crook:
>
>> It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
>> users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
>> a) Not abuse the service they enjoy
>
> People will do this.
>
>> b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
>> read.
>
> Not possible. Many trolls came via Mixmin to post a lot of bullshit
> with continuously changing names and mail addresses.

That would easily be addressed by limiting the number of distinct from
emails from a single IP within a certain time interval. Say, max five in
one day. (That would effectively kill Tor support though, and use from
public hotspots.)

[Marco Moock]

Am 27.06.2023 um 07:52:42 Uhr schrieb Nadegda:

> That would easily be addressed by limiting the number of distinct from
> emails from a single IP within a certain time interval. Say, max five
> in one day. (That would effectively kill Tor support though, and use
> from public hotspots.)

Too much.

Additionally, it is easy to get another IP address.
A normal IPv6 network has 2^64 addresses.

[William Stickers]

Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> wrote:
>
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by

> Checkmate.
>
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:02:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
> the following:
>
>
> >

> > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:08:59 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> >
> > > In alt.free.newsservers Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
> > >> If anybody is wondering why Mixmin isn't accessible anymore:
> > >> The host Hetzner shut it down because it has been abused by spammers,
> > >> especially in the hierarchy de.*.
> > >
> > > Connecting to news.mixmin.net...
> > > news.mixmin.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.8.0 (20230529
> > > prerelease) ready (posting ok)
> > >
> > > But when attempting to post it seems to always reply that you're
> > > not allowed to post to any group you try to post to. It looks like
> > > it's gone read-only now, like Neodome.
> >
> > That is also not acceptable as kensi must be permitted to post.
> >
> > Stop fucking around and just put everything back the way it was last
> > December.
>

> Your impotent demands are futile.

Yebbut, they are funny.

[rank amateur]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote in news:u7e619$1pmun$1...@solani.org:

A crafty admin will not block individual IP addresses. You piss them off
and an entire NETBLK is gone.

[Ivo Gandolfo]

On 27/06/2023 06:29, Minoru Osaka wrote:
[cut]

>
> I don't know how Ivo manages to not require pre registration, but you've
> gone the way that Paolo and Alex and others had to go, unfortunately.
>

It's easy: I run a very "strong" filter's, that can help me to
auto-manage the server. And when an abuser found a bug or something, and
I found them (or user's report to me), I adjust them to work prly and
continue ;)

Actually I'm working to add SSL and an .onion andress to paganini, to
help tor and other user's to play better... Stay tuned for update...


Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

[Minoru Osaka]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:06:35 +0200, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

>> I don't know how Ivo manages to not require pre registration, but you've
>> gone the way that Paolo and Alex and others had to go, unfortunately.
>>
>
> It's easy: I run a very "strong" filter's, that can help me to
> auto-manage the server. And when an abuser found a bug or something, and
> I found them (or user's report to me), I adjust them to work prly and
> continue ;)
>
> Actually I'm working to add SSL and an .onion andress to paganini, to
> help tor and other user's to play better... Stay tuned for update...

Privacy is important in a news server (as Steve Crook knows rather well).

Given Steve had to, finally, give up... I appreciate that you are literally
the last survivor of the privacy breed who have been maintaining a privacy
based server. None of the others afford the privacy that you do, although
Steve was the previous one and Paolo the penultimate of the stated group.

Even though I never spam, I've hit your filters a few times. There are
workarounds for each (e.g., don't reply to a thread whose newsgroup list is
greater than three for one example - or remove groups until it is three).

Once in a while I get a badword even though there are no bad words.
I also get forbidden URLs even though there's seemingly nothing wrong.

But that's the price we pay for our privacy - which is an OK tradeoff.
And, like you said, you respond to users' suggestions (as does RetroGuy).

Thank you and Steve and Paolo and Alex and Roman and Jesse and Steen and
Wolfgang and Daniel and Monika and Benjamin and any I've missed offhand who
provide us, the user, with free news servers (only yours of which is still
able to be private so you're doing a lot of work to keep spammers away).

I don't know your percentages but I hope the spammers are less than 1% of
your posters - where that would mean 99% of your customers are good guys
who simply desire a modicum of privacy when they're posting to Usenet.

[Sn!pe]

Minoru Osaka <minoru...@asahi.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:06:35 +0200, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
>
> >> I don't know how Ivo manages to not require pre registration, but you've
> >> gone the way that Paolo and Alex and others had to go, unfortunately.
> >>
> >
> > It's easy: I run a very "strong" filter's, that can help me to
> > auto-manage the server. And when an abuser found a bug or something, and
> > I found them (or user's report to me), I adjust them to work prly and
> > continue ;)
> >
> > Actually I'm working to add SSL and an .onion andress to paganini, to
> > help tor and other user's to play better... Stay tuned for update...
>
> Privacy is important in a news server (as Steve Crook knows rather well).
>
> Given Steve had to, finally, give up... I appreciate that you are literally
> the last survivor of the privacy breed who have been maintaining a privacy
> based server. None of the others afford the privacy that you do, although
> Steve was the previous one and Paolo the penultimate of the stated group.
>

There's still Dizum... [barf]

> Even though I never spam, I've hit your filters a few times. There are
> workarounds for each (e.g., don't reply to a thread whose newsgroup list is
> greater than three for one example - or remove groups until it is three).
>
> Once in a while I get a badword even though there are no bad words.
> I also get forbidden URLs even though there's seemingly nothing wrong.
>
> But that's the price we pay for our privacy - which is an OK tradeoff.
> And, like you said, you respond to users' suggestions (as does RetroGuy).
>
> Thank you and Steve and Paolo and Alex and Roman and Jesse and Steen and
> Wolfgang and Daniel and Monika and Benjamin and any I've missed offhand who
> provide us, the user, with free news servers (only yours of which is still
> able to be private so you're doing a lot of work to keep spammers away).
>
> I don't know your percentages but I hope the spammers are less than 1% of
> your posters - where that would mean 99% of your customers are good guys
> who simply desire a modicum of privacy when they're posting to Usenet.

[Minoru Osaka]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 16:47:19 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

> There's still Dizum... [barf]

True. But dizum (119/563) is read only sans credentials.

I don't use Dizum's mail2news portal but that "may" work - do you know if
it does still work?

Long ago I had asked Alex de Joode us...@despair.sabotage.org in Amsterdam
but he may have changed his email as apparently he never got the messages.

To your point though, these work.

freenews.netfront.net:119 [blank/blank]
news.dizum.net:119 [blank/blank] <<<<<<<< read only

news.mixmin.net:119 [blank/blank]
news.neodome.net:119 [blank/blank]

news.tambov.ru:119 [blank/blank] <<<<<<<< read/write
paganini.bofh.team:119 [blank/blank] <<<<<<<< read/write
reader.albasani.net:119 [readonly/readonly]

PS: When I saw your post I thought "oh my God, more childish drivel", but
you remained an adult for which I commend you upon as you can add value.

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 27/06/2023 16:06, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

It's easy: I run a very "strong" filter's, that can help me to auto-manage the server. And when an abuser found a bug or something, and I found them (or user's report to me), I adjust them to work prly and continue ;)

The original complaint was about shit posted on de.* so the easiest solution was to remove de.* from MixMin so nobody can post anything on nazi newsgroups. Who is so stupid in the English speaking world to waste time on de.* newsgroups? I don't and just to check what is going on, I subscribed to de.test newsgroup but there is hardly anything on it that needs to be reported. It's a test newsgroup so anything on it is about testing so everything should be allowed on it. alt.test is full of crap that has posts every 4 minutes by a bot but nobody has complained about it. I liked MixMin because it never censored any of my posts and it also allowed me to post images when I wanted to solve somebody's Windows 10 or Windows 11 problem. All other servers administered by neo-nazi administrators have censored my posts and they have not been able to provide any evidence that my posts have spammed anything. The links I provide are to the official websites of Microsoft, Google, Oracle or Adobe. These are top-notch corporations and if people don't like them then they can always stop using the products and also stop subscribing to Windows newsgroups. I don't post anything on Linux newsgroups because I don't use it on my desktop. The nearest I come across Ubuntu is when I am using Oracle Cloud, Azure, AWS or GCP to manage websites I am paid for.

[Sn!pe]

Minoru Osaka <minoru...@asahi.net> wrote:

> PS: When I saw your post I thought "oh my God, more childish drivel", but
> you remained an adult for which I commend you upon as you can add value.

[preen]

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 27/06/2023 16:06, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

It's easy: I run a very "strong" filter's, that can help me to auto-manage the server. And when an abuser found a bug or something, and I found them (or user's report to me), I adjust them to work prly and continue ;)

Another way to weed out spammers and trolls is to charge a one-off fee for registration. Just a small amount like £3.50 (GBP) and this gives them a username/password and if they breach the T&C then their account is terminated with no right to a a refund. Of course they should be given a warning (perhaps two) but on the 3rd breach they go.!!

If you see this particular newsgroup (alt.free.newsservers) the trolls are using black-September which requires free registration but the trolls are still here. The reason is because the administrator is less mindful of them as long as he/she has got their email address.

[Wally]

On 27 Jun 2023, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> posted some
news:u7e2a1$1r1hf$2...@solani.org:

> Am 26.06.2023 um 19:03:20 Uhr schrieb Steve Crook:
>
>> It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
>> users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
>> a) Not abuse the service they enjoy
>
> People will do this.
>
>> b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
>> read.
>
> Not possible. Many trolls came via Mixmin to post a lot of bullshit
> with continuously changing names and mail addresses.

Really put a crimp in your abilities to dox and ultimately attack them at
their places of employment didn't it?

> Then some other people answer to these posts from other servers and
> complain.

If they reply to the posts and complain, they deserve a response. If it's
not to their liking, tough.

[barf]

On 27 Jun 2023, snip...@gmail.com (Sn!pe) posted some
news:1qczt5z.voosa81iiixy2N%snip...@gmail.com:

> Minoru Osaka <minoru...@asahi.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:06:35 +0200, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
>>
>> >> I don't know how Ivo manages to not require pre registration, but
>> >> you've gone the way that Paolo and Alex and others had to go,
>> >> unfortunately.
>> >>
>> >
>> > It's easy: I run a very "strong" filter's, that can help me to
>> > auto-manage the server. And when an abuser found a bug or
>> > something, and I found them (or user's report to me), I adjust them
>> > to work prly and continue ;)
>> >
>> > Actually I'm working to add SSL and an .onion andress to paganini,
>> > to help tor and other user's to play better... Stay tuned for
>> > update...
>>
>> Privacy is important in a news server (as Steve Crook knows rather
>> well).
>>
>> Given Steve had to, finally, give up... I appreciate that you are
>> literally the last survivor of the privacy breed who have been
>> maintaining a privacy based server. None of the others afford the
>> privacy that you do, although Steve was the previous one and Paolo
>> the penultimate of the stated group.
>>
>
> There's still Dizum... [barf]

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| | |_ ___ `. | |
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| | | | | | | |
| | _| |___.' / | |
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| | | |
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'----------------'
.----------------.
| .--------------. |
| | _____ | |
| | |_ _| | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | _| |_ | |
| | |_____| | |
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'----------------'
.----------------.
| .--------------. |
| | ________ | |
| | | __ _| | |
| | |_/ / / | |
| | .'.' _ | |
| | _/ /__/ | | |
| | |________| | |
| | | |
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| | _____ _____ | |
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| .--------------. |
| | ____ ____ | |
| ||_ \ / _|| |
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| | | |\ /| | | |
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| ||_____||_____|| |
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| .--------------. |
| | _______ | |
| | |_ __ \ | |
| | | |__) | | |
| | | __ / | |
| | _| | \ \_ | |
| | |____| |___| | |
| | | |
| '--------------' |
'----------------'
.----------------.
| .--------------. |
| | ____ | |
| | .' `. | |
| | / .--. \ | |
| | | | | | | |
| | \ `--' / | |
| | `.____.' | |
| | | |
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| | ______ | |
| | .' ___ | | |
| | / .' \_| | |
| | | | | |
| | \ `.___.'\ | |
| | `._____.' | |
| | | |
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| | |_ ||_ _| | |
| | | |_/ / | |
| | | __'. | |
| | _| | \ \_ | |
| | |____||____| | |
| | | |
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| | _______ | |
| | / ___ | | |
| | | (__ \_| | |
| | '.___`-. | |
| | |`\____) | | |
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| | | |
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| | | | | |
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| | (_) | |
| '--------------' |
'----------------'

[Richard Kettlewell]

Steve Crook <st...@mixmin.net> writes:

> Marco Moock wrote:
>> Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>
> It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
> users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
> a) Not abuse the service they enjoy

It’s been glaringly obvious since the 1990s that that is not true.

> b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
> read.

The issue here (or at least the one I’m aware of) was content-free
flooding, not just an unpopular opinion or something.

--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

[Marco Moock]

If there is criteria that can be filtered, it is ok. But it didn't
exist for the trolls, they used many names and mail addresses.

[🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:49:16 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Wally
<wa...@world.std> determined that the following was of great importance
and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<u7gajr$3e65c$1...@paganini.bofh.team>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 27 Jun 2023, Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> posted some
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= news:u7e2a1$1r1hf$2...@solani.org:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Am 26.06.2023 um 19:03:20 Uhr schrieb Steve Crook:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the users
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:- a) Not abuse the service they
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= enjoy
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= People will do this.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= read.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Not possible. Many trolls came via Mixmin to post a lot of bullshit with
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= continuously changing names and mail addresses.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Really put a crimp in your abilities to dox and ultimately attack them
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= at their places of employment didn't it?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Then some other people answer to these posts from other servers and
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= complain.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= If they reply to the posts and complain, they deserve a response. If
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= it's not to their liking, tough.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

Maybe you could team up with the alt.checkmate pedophile "Checkmate" to rid usenet of such annoyances?

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[Paul]

That's called a VPN machine gun.

I don't know if you're aware, how many open and abuse-able VPNs
exist, suited to sending a few USENET messages and then shutting down.

This allows an abuser, to have a pool of IP addresses to work with,
which makes it difficult for a USENET server operator to filter them off.

There is also a defense for that, but it costs money. There is
a subscription service that tracks open VPNs, and delivers the
list of filterable IP addresses. (That's because at least some of
these open VPNs are at fixed addresses or don't reboot that often.)
Firms like Netflix, subscribe to lists like that.

So you can "harden" a USENET server against VPN machine guns,
but it costs money (to get a subscription to the list).

The number of free, low bandwidth, abuse-able facilities,
is at least 1200.

There is at least one USENETter who is known to possess such a
machine gun.

Paul

[Adam H. Kerman]

There had been a criterion: It was injected through mixmin. Despite what
Steve Crook claims to believe, almost nothing worth reading was posted
through his server, except by someone whose regular server was off line.
Normally, if it was posted through mixmin, one assumed that the user was
being forged, given how common it was.

Steve Crook is an intelligent man. He expressed wishful thinking but in
practice, I don't believe for a moment that he was unaware of the amount
of Usenet abuse being committed through his server.

The only non-registering server that had some worthwhile content was
AIOE, and even that had significant abuse. At one point, I had to tell
Paolo to reject articles with my email address as I was being forged.

[Eowin O]

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> said:

> So you can "harden" a USENET server against VPN machine guns,
> but it costs money (to get a subscription to the list).
>
> The number of free, low bandwidth, abuse-able facilities,
> is at least 1200.
>
> There is at least one USENETter who is known to possess such a
> machine gun.

How does oagabubi's bofh get around these vpn machine guns then?

[Hopalong Beaver]

On 28 Jun 2023, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> posted some
news:u7hm3d$1qeef$1...@dont-email.me:

> Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
>>Am 28.06.2023 08:56 schrieb Richard Kettlewell:
>>>Steve Crook <st...@mixmin.net> writes:
>>>>Marco Moock wrote:
>
>>>>>Mixmin has been abused and the operator didn't care for years.
>
>>>>It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
>>>>users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
>
>>>>a) Not abuse the service they enjoy
>
>>>It's been glaringly obvious since the 1990s that that is not true.
>
>>>>b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
>>>>read.
>
>>>The issue here (or at least the one I'm aware of) was content-free
>>>flooding, not just an unpopular opinion or something.
>
>>If there is criteria that can be filtered, it is ok. But it didn't
>>exist for the trolls, they used many names and mail addresses.
>
> There had been a criterion: It was injected through mixmin. Despite what
> Steve Crook claims to believe, almost nothing worth reading was posted
> through his server, except by someone whose regular server was off line.
> Normally, if it was posted through mixmin, one assumed that the user was
> being forged, given how common it was.

That's not the truth, the whole truth, or anything even resembling truth.
Take the dress off and put some pants on, Kerman.

> Steve Crook is an intelligent man. He expressed wishful thinking but in

Brighter than most and a good guy.

> practice, I don't believe for a moment that he was unaware of the amount
> of Usenet abuse being committed through his server.

Primarily by the same two turds who ruined albasani, freenews, neodome and
aioe, one of whom is now trolling from motzarella. Neither one of them is
the character who went after the de.* groups. That one was lurking in
apas trying to get qsl working for a while. Yes we helped him.

> The only non-registering server that had some worthwhile content was
> AIOE, and even that had significant abuse. At one point, I had to tell
> Paolo to reject articles with my email address as I was being forged.

There's free speech and countering viewpoints that some torpid
participants consider abusive. It doesn't take much effort to filter
those out or poke the author(s) with a sharp stick.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Hopalong Beaver <t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>. . .

>That's not the truth, the whole truth, or anything even resembling truth.
>Take the dress off and put some pants on, Kerman.

It sure takes guts to flame me with constant morphing, posting through
paganini.

No one else has ever found it necessary to hide behind layers of
sockpuppets to criticize me. I'm fair game.

You're a coward. You've always been a coward. You always will be a
coward. Take your own advice and grow a pair.

[William Stickers]

+1

[Skeeter]

In article <u7i133$3k2ea$1...@paganini.bofh.team>, t...@earthlink.net
says...

It's all Kensi's and her puppet Nads fault.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

A normal user doesn't. A normal user has one, and *may* be able to get
another one if they turn their router off for 10 minutes or so and then
back on again. Not really compatible with mass flood/spam attacks. Not if
they have to do it after every five posts (if they want to morph with every
post to avoid being killfiled).

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 10:01:58 +0000, rank amateur wrote:

> Marco Koock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote in news:u7e619$1pmun$1...@solani.org:

You misspelled "A ruthless admin". That will cause *massive* collateral
damage.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 15:36:11 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jelly.time>
wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 07:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
> the following:
>

>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:15:13 +0200, Marco Koock wrote:
>>
>> > Am 26.06.2023 um 19:03:20 Uhr schrieb Steve Crook:
>> >
>> >> It isn't really a matter of not caring. I like to think that the
>> >> users of Usenet are sufficiently mature to:-
>> >> a) Not abuse the service they enjoy
>> >
>> > People will do this.
>> >
>> >> b) Use their reader of choice to filter out what they don't want to
>> >> read.
>> >
>> > Not possible. Many trolls came via Mixmin to post a lot of bullshit
>> > with continuously changing names and mail addresses.
>>
>> That would easily be addressed by limiting the number of distinct from
>> emails from a single IP within a certain time interval. Say, max five in
>> one day. (That would effectively kill Tor support though, and use from
>> public hotspots.)
>

> The "problem" has already been addressed,

No, it hasn't, kook. Not until kensi is back online.