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R.Wieser
Apr 2, 2021, 4:44:39 PM4/2/21
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Helo all
Why am I doing wrong to test the status of netfront free news server?
... telnet freenews.netfront.net 119
... It comes back with a (posting ok)
200 news.netfront.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (posting ok)
... I can type "help" and "group alt.free.newsservers" and it works.
But when I type "post" it hangs forever.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Why am I doing wrong to test the status of netfront free news server?
... telnet freenews.netfront.net 119
... It comes back with a (posting ok)
200 news.netfront.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (posting ok)
... I can type "help" and "group alt.free.newsservers" and it works.
But when I type "post" it hangs forever.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Jackson Sprat
Apr 2, 2021, 4:53:44 PM4/2/21
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server connection problems frequently. I thought to myself, what a POS so I never even tried using
it to post. Compared to free aioe it seemed to list only about half the posts. I have to believe it has
almost no peering and very little retention.
R.Wieser
Apr 2, 2021, 5:28:20 PM4/2/21
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Jackson,
> I used netfront for a while as a read-only server and, to my chagrin,
> it was totally unreliable with server connection problems frequently.
Did you get a chance to try the telnet & post commands?
Do these commands do the same for you as they do with me?
... telnet freenews.netfront.net 119
... help
... group alt.free.newsservers
... article
... post (then it hangs)
> I thought to myself, what a POS so I never even tried using
> it to post.
It may be a POS and probably is.
But I am trying to post even if it is a POS.
What I want to know is how to test why it hangs when I try the post cmd.
> Compared to free aioe it seemed to list only about half the posts.
> I have to believe it has almost no peering and very little retention.
What am I doing wrong in those telnet debug tests?
Or what step am I missing?
How can I debug?
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
> I used netfront for a while as a read-only server and, to my chagrin,
> it was totally unreliable with server connection problems frequently.
Do these commands do the same for you as they do with me?
... telnet freenews.netfront.net 119
... help
... group alt.free.newsservers
... article
... post (then it hangs)
> I thought to myself, what a POS so I never even tried using
> it to post.
But I am trying to post even if it is a POS.
What I want to know is how to test why it hangs when I try the post cmd.
> Compared to free aioe it seemed to list only about half the posts.
> I have to believe it has almost no peering and very little retention.
Or what step am I missing?
How can I debug?
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Jackson Sprat
Apr 2, 2021, 5:32:18 PM4/2/21
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automatically.
Paul
Apr 2, 2021, 7:09:20 PM4/2/21
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R.Wieser wrote:
> Jackson,
>
>> I used netfront for a while as a read-only server and, to my chagrin,
>> it was totally unreliable with server connection problems frequently.
>
> Did you get a chance to try the telnet & post commands?
You know there was some Hipcrime flooding activity.
> Jackson,
>
>> I used netfront for a while as a read-only server and, to my chagrin,
>> it was totally unreliable with server connection problems frequently.
>
> Did you get a chance to try the telnet & post commands?
Well, a casualty (according to someone), was that
rather than "write a filter" or "play pattycakes"
with the miscreant, Netfront has gone read-only.
I call that, the "shortest filter script in history",
for it prevents posting floods, like, instantly.
It's like a one-byte-script. A "G'Bye" script.
So unlike Neodome, that got flooded twice, Netfront
only let it happen the one time :-) As they say in
the Amazon comment section, "Fast service".
Paul
R.Wieser
Apr 3, 2021, 6:21:15 AM4/3/21
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Paul,
> You know there was some Hipcrime flooding activity.
Don't know what that is but I did see Windows flooded recently.
> rather than "write a filter" or "play pattycakes"
> with the miscreant, Netfront has gone read-only.
That explains why a telnet to netfront 119 won't post!
> So unlike Neodome, that got flooded twice, Netfront
> only let it happen the one time :-) As they say in
> the Amazon comment section, "Fast service".
Do you think that's why dizum 119 also stopped text newsgroup posting?
... telnet news.dizum.net 119
200 sewer InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (no posting)
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
> You know there was some Hipcrime flooding activity.
> rather than "write a filter" or "play pattycakes"
> with the miscreant, Netfront has gone read-only.
> So unlike Neodome, that got flooded twice, Netfront
> only let it happen the one time :-) As they say in
> the Amazon comment section, "Fast service".
... telnet news.dizum.net 119
200 sewer InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (no posting)
... help
... group alt.free.newsservers
... article
... post
480 Posting not allowed
... group alt.free.newsservers
... article
... post
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Paul
Apr 3, 2021, 7:02:50 AM4/3/21
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R.Wieser wrote:
>
> Do you think that's why dizum 119 also stopped text newsgroup posting?
> ... telnet news.dizum.net 119
> 200 sewer InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (no posting)
> ... help
> ... group alt.free.newsservers
> ... article
> ... post
> 480 Posting not allowed
>
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
In the 200, it says "(no posting)".
>
> Do you think that's why dizum 119 also stopped text newsgroup posting?
> ... telnet news.dizum.net 119
> 200 sewer InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (no posting)
> ... help
> ... group alt.free.newsservers
> ... article
> ... post
> 480 Posting not allowed
>
> Regards,
> Rudy Wieser
Having a bad hair day, mebbe ?
Or perhaps a miscreant has already been at it :-/
And this is the blowback.
Paul
R.Wieser
Apr 3, 2021, 7:17:29 AM4/3/21
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Paul,
> In the 200, it says "(no posting)".
I know dizum said "no posting" but I was showing "post" steps to confirm.
> Having a bad hair day, mebbe ?
Some 200 messages (like that from netfront at 119) say (posting ok)
but posting still doesn't work. Because of that I was showing the "post"
command that proved posting no longer works on 119 for news.dizum.net
no matter what the nntp server claims in the 200 message.
> Or perhaps a miscreant has already been at it [snip]
Do you know how to post to dizum on perhaps another port than 119?
Maybe 563 ssl?
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
> In the 200, it says "(no posting)".
> Having a bad hair day, mebbe ?
but posting still doesn't work. Because of that I was showing the "post"
command that proved posting no longer works on 119 for news.dizum.net
no matter what the nntp server claims in the 200 message.
> Or perhaps a miscreant has already been at it [snip]
Do you know how to post to dizum on perhaps another port than 119?
Maybe 563 ssl?
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Paul
Apr 3, 2021, 8:05:16 AM4/3/21
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Then if we go here:
https://dizum.com/
"This Connection is Untrusted"
Which also appears to foul up the ability of Archive.org to
render the site.
Yet another dumpster fire.
I visited with Internet Explorer, and at least now I'm seeing
a badly laid out webpage...
nntp/nntps: news.dizum.net
A open (read-only) (text) usenet server. <===
Both nntp and nntps are supported.
Paul
R.Wieser
Apr 3, 2021, 1:24:17 PM4/3/21
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Paul,
> I've never used such, and haven't even overheard such details.
I heard news.dizum.net:119 or 563 ssl was an open post for limited text
but I must not have the right login/password credentials figured out yet.
> Then if we go here:
> https://dizum.com/
> "This Connection is Untrusted"
> Which also appears to foul up the ability of Archive.org to
> render the site.
Is there a way to get the certificate permanently into the browser
so we don't have to go through that manual trust process every time?
> I visited with Internet Explorer, and at least now I'm seeing
> a badly laid out webpage...
> nntp/nntps: news.dizum.net
> A open (read-only) (text) usenet server. <===
> Both nntp and nntps are supported.
It says it is a mail2news gateway so there must be a way to post.
https://dizum.com/mail2news.html
> Yet another dumpster fire.
Lol. It has a gateway to nntp of some fashion.
home https://dizum.com/
remailer https://dizum.com/remailer.html
mail2news https://dizum.com/mail2news.html
tor2web https://onion.lt/
usenet news://news.dizum.net/
INSTRUCTIONS FOR USING mail...@dizum.com:
To post an article to usenet, mail it to mail...@dizum.com. You must
specify the newsgroup(s) to which you want to post with a "Newsgroups:"
header in your mail message. When posting to multiple groups, place all
newsgroups in the same "Newsgroups:" header line, separated by commas (but
NO spaces). For example, to post a message to alt.test and misc.test, place
the following line in your mail header:
Newsgroups: alt.test,misc.test
Note that this service does NOT anonymize the news articles it posts. The
address from which an article is mailed will become the return address of
the posted news article.
The mail2news software passes mail messages directly through to the news
server with almost no modification. It does not process "::" or "##" lines
in mail, nor does it understand "Post-To:" commands. All mail received must
already be a properly formatted news message (as described by RFC 1036) with
a "Newsgroups:" line in the header of the mail message. Otherwise, the news
server will reject the article and it will be bounced back to you.
To receive a list of all newsgroups reachable through this mail to news
gateway, send mail to mail...@dizum.com with subject "list" and no
"Newsgroups:" header. The complete list of available newsgroups is quite
large (200+K 10,000+ groups), and can break many mailers. To obtain through
E-mail a list of only those newsgroups starting with a particular pattern,
you can include an egrep-style regular expression on the subject line. For
instance,
Subject: list comp\.unix
would list only newsgroups whose names begin "comp.unix".
Subject: list .*linux
would list all newsgroups whose names contain the substring "linux".
Subject: list alt.*(security|privacy)
would list all newsgroups beginning "alt" and containing either the word
"security" or the word "privacy". Finally,
Subject: list .*\.test$
would list all newsgroups ending ".test".
AVOIDING SPAM:
If you post a usenet article from a replyable E-mail address, you will very
likely end up receiving a great deal of unsolicited commercial E-mail. To
avoid this, you can instead mail your articles to:
mail2new...@dizum.com
which mangle your From header so as to foil automated address cullers while
still permitting humans to figure out your E-mail address.
BLOCKED HEADERS:
Preloading a Path: header is not allowed, your message will silently be
dropped
Crosspostings to more than 5 (five) newsgroups is discouraged.
Setting Follow-up:, Approved: and Control: headers will also result in your
message not being posted.
POLICY:
The mail2news gateway is available so people who use anonymous remailers or
do not have posting priveledges at regular news servers or have their
posting priveledges revoked due to controversial opinions or flame wars can
participate in usenet discussions. The mail2news gateway is not intended as
a vehicle to post spam, advertising, binaries, pictures, warez etc.
--
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
> I've never used such, and haven't even overheard such details.
but I must not have the right login/password credentials figured out yet.
> Then if we go here:
> https://dizum.com/
> "This Connection is Untrusted"
> Which also appears to foul up the ability of Archive.org to
> render the site.
so we don't have to go through that manual trust process every time?
> I visited with Internet Explorer, and at least now I'm seeing
> a badly laid out webpage...
> nntp/nntps: news.dizum.net
> A open (read-only) (text) usenet server. <===
> Both nntp and nntps are supported.
https://dizum.com/mail2news.html
> Yet another dumpster fire.
Lol. It has a gateway to nntp of some fashion.
home https://dizum.com/
remailer https://dizum.com/remailer.html
mail2news https://dizum.com/mail2news.html
tor2web https://onion.lt/
usenet news://news.dizum.net/
INSTRUCTIONS FOR USING mail...@dizum.com:
To post an article to usenet, mail it to mail...@dizum.com. You must
specify the newsgroup(s) to which you want to post with a "Newsgroups:"
header in your mail message. When posting to multiple groups, place all
newsgroups in the same "Newsgroups:" header line, separated by commas (but
NO spaces). For example, to post a message to alt.test and misc.test, place
the following line in your mail header:
Newsgroups: alt.test,misc.test
Note that this service does NOT anonymize the news articles it posts. The
address from which an article is mailed will become the return address of
the posted news article.
The mail2news software passes mail messages directly through to the news
server with almost no modification. It does not process "::" or "##" lines
in mail, nor does it understand "Post-To:" commands. All mail received must
already be a properly formatted news message (as described by RFC 1036) with
a "Newsgroups:" line in the header of the mail message. Otherwise, the news
server will reject the article and it will be bounced back to you.
To receive a list of all newsgroups reachable through this mail to news
gateway, send mail to mail...@dizum.com with subject "list" and no
"Newsgroups:" header. The complete list of available newsgroups is quite
large (200+K 10,000+ groups), and can break many mailers. To obtain through
E-mail a list of only those newsgroups starting with a particular pattern,
you can include an egrep-style regular expression on the subject line. For
instance,
Subject: list comp\.unix
would list only newsgroups whose names begin "comp.unix".
Subject: list .*linux
would list all newsgroups whose names contain the substring "linux".
Subject: list alt.*(security|privacy)
would list all newsgroups beginning "alt" and containing either the word
"security" or the word "privacy". Finally,
Subject: list .*\.test$
would list all newsgroups ending ".test".
AVOIDING SPAM:
If you post a usenet article from a replyable E-mail address, you will very
likely end up receiving a great deal of unsolicited commercial E-mail. To
avoid this, you can instead mail your articles to:
mail2new...@dizum.com
which mangle your From header so as to foil automated address cullers while
still permitting humans to figure out your E-mail address.
BLOCKED HEADERS:
Preloading a Path: header is not allowed, your message will silently be
dropped
Crosspostings to more than 5 (five) newsgroups is discouraged.
Setting Follow-up:, Approved: and Control: headers will also result in your
message not being posted.
POLICY:
The mail2news gateway is available so people who use anonymous remailers or
do not have posting priveledges at regular news servers or have their
posting priveledges revoked due to controversial opinions or flame wars can
participate in usenet discussions. The mail2news gateway is not intended as
a vehicle to post spam, advertising, binaries, pictures, warez etc.
--
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
mike
Apr 5, 2021, 8:29:38 PM4/5/21
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On 03 Apr 2021, "Rudy Canoza <add...@not.available> posted some
news:s4a8br$p4p$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
Doesn't work for ya, hunh Rudy Canoza sock puppet #909372.
And that is what Rudy does.
news:s4a8br$p4p$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
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