Who are the FREE providers with POSTING allowed and with NO LOGIN?
VanguardLH
which are read-only or accept posts but I haven't found one that lists
Usenet servers that are:
(free) AND (posting allowed) AND (no login)
Examples:
Giganews:
Free = false
Posting allowed = true
No Login = false
Albasani:
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = false
AIOE:
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = true
Eternal-September:
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = false
Teranews:
Free = false
Posting allowed = true
No login = false
Of this sample, only AIOE matches the criteria of a free post-accepting
no-login Usenet provider. When discussing free Usenet providers, one
way to categorize them is as registered (posting allowed, account login
required) and unregistered (posting allowed, no login). I'd like to
find out who are the unregistered free Usenet providers to start scoring
on them.
As for being free, ANY cost involved in setting up an account
disqualifies a provider as offering a free service. For example,
Teranews charges a setup fee so they are disqualified as a free Usenet
provider as it will cost the poster another setup fee to establish a new
account. individual.net is cheap at 10 euro/year but that's still not
free. As for posting, any posting count greater than zero qualifies as
"posting allowed" even if they have a restrictive quota (e.g., AIOE at
25 posts/day is a "posting allowed" provider as we've seen plenty of
nymshifting trolls post through there). "No login" means the poster
does not have to enter anything for login credentials to use the server
to submit posts or the same fixed login is shared by everyone using that
server and the login is well known, published, and never disabled by the
provider; i.e., it's an open server to everyone.
I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
- Free
- Allow posting.
- No login.
Fred Hall
> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
> - Free
> - Allow posting.
> - No login.
>
Cheapskate. You can't afford $6/month (US)?
--
"These clowns are all Jokers!" - Rasta Khan
Jeff-Relf.Me
"Tioat.NET:119" lets you post, no log·in required. As I said: For uploading/posting, I use XSusenet.COM or a Readnews.COM reseller like Usenet-News.NET, BlockNews.NET, UsenetMonster.COM, Panix.COM, Qis.NET, etc. "News.US.Usenet-News.NET:8080" is 2 dollars for ·life· and "euNews.BlockNews.NET:443" is 3 dollars for ·life·. If all you do is read and post plain·text, like me, a few bucks ( for a few gigs ) lasts you a life·time. Technically, this isn't "free", but it's close enough. unLike Glorb, XSusenet.COM, BlockNews, Usenet-News and "Tioat.NET:119" let me post an email·free “From:” line, to wit, "From: Jeff-Relf.Me". Placing an '@' in the “From:” line is ludicrous because: ▶ if the address is real, it will be killed by spam. ▶ if the address is fake, the address itself is spam.
suzeeq
> VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in news:j6ogck$dl$1...@news.albasani.net:
>
>> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
>> - Free
>> - Allow posting.
>> - No login.
>>
>
> Cheapskate. You can't afford $6/month (US)?
I don't get why he disqualifies logging in; several free ones that way.
Johnny B. Good
> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
> - Free
> - Allow posting.
> - No login.
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = true
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = true
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = true
Remark: Does not carry the alt.* hierarchy.
Free = true
Posting allowed = true
No login = true
Remark: Currently seems to allow posting only on port 563.
--
--- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to ne...@netfront.net ---
Fred Hall
Yep. Maybe he's practising his troll skills
Eddie
<snipped bollocks>
FFS grow up.
You've been making these same fucking whinges for years.
Eddie
Cos he's a twat
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
>> - Free
>> - Allow posting.
>> - No login.
>
> Cheapskate. You can't afford $6/month (US)?
That's not the point of my post. Read the first line you chose to quote
from my post.
Note: I already have your server flagged since Altopia continues to
permit its users to modify the Path header to alter the injection point.
VanguardLH
> Fred Hall wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
>>> - Free
>>> - Allow posting.
>>> - No login.
>>>
>>
>> Cheapskate. You can't afford $6/month (US)?
>
> I don't get why he disqualifies logging in; several free ones that way.
Including the one that I used to submit my post. I've also used and
still have an account at Eternal-September, the same one you use.
Perhaps you missed the "(to score on)" while hints to the purpose of my
post. Users at Albasani and Eternal-September have something to lose,
not those using unregistered services.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
>> - Free
>> - Allow posting.
>> - No login.
>
> tioat.net:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = true
>
> freenews.netfront.net:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = true
>
> news.ett.com.ua:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = true
>
> Remark: Does not carry the alt.* hierarchy.
>
> news.mixmin.net:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = true
>
> Remark: Currently seems to allow posting only on port 563.
I had tioat, mixmin, and many others already flagged as a remailer to
identify posts coming from those type of sources.
I had netfront.net flagged for their appended spam since it is NOT after
a proper sigdash line. Looks like you added a blank signature to
obviate their spamification of your post. This forces their appended
spam into the signature. Good work. Few netfront users do that to
intentionally despamify their posts (as opposed to accidentally because
they added some fluff signature). Yeah, it still has spam but, at
least, it's in a signature. I didn't realize it was also an free
unregistered service. http://www.netfront.net/support/engie3setup.htm
shows that they don't require login.
Thanks for some info.
Fred Hall
Please don't cry, cheapskate
Johnny B. Good
> I had tioat, mixmin, and many others already flagged as a remailer to
> identify posts coming from those type of sources.
Btw: There is another unregistered free server, news.tambov.ru, but
which will be of limited use for many people since it carries (except
for some Russian groups) only the sci.* hierarchy.
Some Guy
> I'm looking for providers (to score on)
What do you mean "to score on" ?
Are you going to hit them up for a date? To "nail" them?
suzeeq
I don't understand 'score on' so probably misses the purpose of your
post. Maybe instead of 'hinting' you can come right out and say what
your purpose is.
Fred Hall
VanguardLH
> Path: news.albasani.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers
> Subject: Re: Who are the FREE providers with POSTING allowed and with NO LOGIN?
> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 08:15:31 -0600
> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
> Lines: 24
> Message-ID: <j6pltq$bub$1...@dont-email.me>
> References: <j6ogck$dl$1...@news.albasani.net> <Xns9F77E7FA94...@208.90.168.18> <j6ojho$n8b$1...@dont-email.me> <j6ov6o$cl0$1...@news.albasani.net>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Injection-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:15:23 +0000 (UTC)
> Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="JwwC7pZQbOQV8n+Bvnrtgw";
> logging-data="12235"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/F3xpaLas4SBlROJtxmmpQ"
> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)
> In-Reply-To: <j6ov6o$cl0$1...@news.albasani.net>
> Cancel-Lock: sha1:V9SvCG3hNxDreryZiMzyYsrEYmA=
> Xref: news.albasani.net alt.free.newsservers:69748
So you don't know any unregistered free Usenet providers. Thanks anyway
for participating.
Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts. It's been
way too long since I last trialed Thunderbird but, as I recall, scoring
wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your newsreader.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> I had tioat, mixmin, and many others already flagged as a remailer to
>> identify posts coming from those type of sources.
>
> Do you consider news servers that also act as a remailer inadmissible?
Hopefully I have most of the remailers already identified and flagged
but I'm sure that I missed some. Besides those, I also flag posts that
are gatewayed from forums (i.e., HTTP-to-NNTP gateways) that leech from
Usenet to pretend they have a larger community or to provide a webnews
interface to Usenet. I started flagging on Google Groupers long ago:
way too many spammers, trolls, imposters, and boobs from that source.
I've been building up the remailer and gateway lists for awhile but it's
the unregistered free servers that I just started thinking about also
flagging.
The others participating here can bitch, moan, and berate all they like.
The Usenet is open but that doesn't mean that I have to see everything
that everyone wants to post. Filtering has been part of newsreaders for
longer than I've been in Usenet, and many of them include the ability to
score so as to rate the posts. That others choose not to filter or flag
is their choice. That I filter and flag is my choice. I don't need to
see every single post as there's nothing that is so valuable that it
would be a life changing event if I missed some posts. It's a hobby
when I have some idle time and at my choice. It's not a career.
> Btw: There is another unregistered free server, news.tambov.ru, but
> which will be of limited use for many people since it carries (except
> for some Russian groups) only the sci.* hierarchy.
Hmm, I'm looking more for unregistered free servers that carry all of
the hierarchies except I don't care about any binary groups. Yeah, I
know there are some non-porn binaries, like for computer graphics, but I
haven't the desire or need to visit any them. Also, I configured my
newsreader to download the entire post (headers + body) so that I can
test on all the headers, not just the overview headers. My newsreader
doesn't support XPAT but then it's a resource intensive function on the
NNTP servers so rare few support it (and none support it that I've
used). So, for me, doing searches on non-overview headers is
accomplished by downloading the entire articles. Obviously downloading
gobs of huge files from binary groups wouldn't work in such a setup.
Text groups is all I care about; however, I haven't yet been in the
sci.* groups. Thanks for the info on that server.
Some Guy
> suzeeq wrote:
>
> > Path: news.albasani.net!
(...)
Full-quoting that previous post is bad enough.
But why did you quote the full header as well?
> Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts.
Then what does scoring posts have to do with the server by which they
were posted on or being read from?
> as I recall, scoring wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your
> newsreader.
On what scale is this scoring taking place?
And who (or what) is performing this scoring?
suzeeq
I do - aioe. So what's the problem with having to register to post to
usenet? It can cut down on the spamming and trolling.
> Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts. It's been
> way too long since I last trialed Thunderbird but, as I recall, scoring
> wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your newsreader.
I do understand scoring as rating posts, I don't understand the purpose.
VanguardLH
> I do - aioe. So what's the problem with having to register to post to
> usenet? It can cut down on the spamming and trolling.
I already listed AIOE in the examples in my opening post. It's the
*unregistered* free servers that I'm interested in since those posters
have nothing to lose. Users of paid servers have the most to lose but
users of registered free servers also have something to lose (and the
repeated nuisance of establishing a new account assuming the provider
doesn't track who is opening accounts with them and refuse repeat
offenders).
>> Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts. It's been
>> way too long since I last trialed Thunderbird but, as I recall, scoring
>> wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your newsreader.
>
> I do understand scoring as rating posts, I don't understand the purpose.
Do you know how Bayesian spam filters work? They rate a message by
keywords selected from it and weight those keywords based on a
historical database of prior exposure to the same keywords; see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_spam_filtering. This makes a
message look more spammy or more hammy (i.e., it "learns" over time
using a statistical history of messages). Alas, I don't know of a
scheme to do the same with Usenet messages and to first focus on their
headers. Scoring (as available in NNTP clients) based on various
headers can lend some indication or warning about the quality of a post.
You don't have to just score on one criteria. Scoring can be
accumulative (and even substractive) across multiple filters (i.e., not
just 9999 could be assigned but +1000 to a message's current score based
on one filter plus +4999 on another filter). You can decide at what
increments to bias the scoring and at what threshold to commit an
action.
You don't use a newsreader capable of scoring so all of this is of no
value to you; however, users of many other newsreaders do have flagging
and scoring features. I'm not running INN or Hamster to leech from an
NNTP server and then efficiently run filters and scoring of its articles
database which could easily include scoring on body content in a post
and do so in the background when I'm not looking at any articles. I'm
just using an NNTP client for now so I focus on the headers (plus my
newsreader doesn't permit regex matching on strings inside the body,
just the headers). For now, I'd just be flagging posts submitted
through unregistered free servers to get a feel of which ones I may
start scoring. Flagging is just on-off toggling of an attribute.
Scoring is a more granular method of determining bad-good status.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH:
>
>> Fred Hall wrote:
>>
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the
>>>> following: - Free
>>>> - Allow posting.
>>>> - No login.
>>>
>>> Cheapskate. You can't afford $6/month (US)?
>>
>> That's not the point of my post. Read the first line you chose to
>> quote from my post.
>>
>> Note: I already have your server flagged since Altopia continues to
>> permit its users to modify the Path header to alter the injection
>> point.
>
> Please don't cry, cheapskate
Which has nothing to do with *reading* posts submitted by *other*
posters using OTHER servers, does it? So instead of addressing issue
you attempt subterfuge.
Thanks for playing. Next contestant please.
VanguardLH
Thunderbird then you never had a scoring feature available to understand
how to use it or practice using it. Maybe you've heard of Bayesian
filtering employed to for granular rating of ham/spam e-mail; however, I
only have static filters to define heuristics that are based on my
observations, not a statistical historical database on which to weight
keywords over time.
suzeeq
who posted what and ignore those I know to be of low 'quality'.
Fred Hall
Admission of being a loser noted and snickered at, cheapskate
Eddie
>
> Neither am I interested in scoring posts anyway. I 'score' by looking at
> who posted what and ignore those I know to be of low 'quality'.
The pompous twat has too much time (or hair) on his hands. It's not as if
Usenet was running at the levels of 10 years ago, many once popular groups are
deader than VanguardLH's brain.
Some Guy
> > What do you mean "to score on" ?
>
> available to understand how to use it or practice using it.
I don't see much spam in the groups that I read - probably because the
server I'm using makes use of cleanfeed and noceum. Hence I have no
need to bother with a scoring system.
> Maybe you've heard of Bayesian filtering employed to for
> granular rating of ham/spam e-mail;
> however, I only have static filters to define heuristics that
> are based on my observations, not a statistical historical
> database on which to weight keywords over time.
Are you saying that you want to impliment usenet message scoring to
differentiate legit posts from spam posts?
If your main focus is on message scoring, why is that not apparent from
the Subject that you gave to this thread?
vg4cysss7001
writes
[snip]
>Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts. It's been
>way too long since I last trialed Thunderbird but, as I recall, scoring
>wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your newsreader.
Scoring is something that I have a basic understanding of, but
cannot recall ever using. [It was always just a beta add-on for
Turnpike, but I may have experimented with Dialog.]
AIUI, scoring 'promotes', or 'demotes' articles in the viewed
list. Personally, I either want to read a post, or I don't, so have
never had the inclination to adopt scoring. Have I misunderstood
something?
--
Misha
Free on-line, off-site backups?
<https://mozy.com/?ref=UK45Y5>
Jeff-Relf.Me
Instead of 40tude Dialog's "-9999 to 9999" scoring, I:
── Read everything in "Alt.Free.Newsservers".
── Read all posts and "immediate" ( 5 levels deep ) replies to:
── "Jeff-Relf" ( me ) and
── "Double-A" ( a 62 year old homeless dude in "Alt.Astronomy" )
[ X.TXT ranks the (pseudo)nyms ]
── Read all posts "from", but not all "replies to":
Michael•Moroney moroney@ // Sci.Physics
Yousuf•Khan Yousuf•Khan< YKhan< // Sci.Physics
Eric•Gisse eric•gisse< // Sci.Physics
If, after that, I want to read more,
I read Sci.Physics's "Most Engaging" (pseudo)nyms,
limited to each nyms's 5 most recent posts.
My newsreader's "Most Engaging" ranking is similar to "PageRank";
but it's the "References:" line that has the "votes/links" and
newer, more immediate links count more. CrossPosting delutes the votes.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>>> What do you mean "to score on" ?
>>
>> I (guess) you haven't used a newsreader beyond WinVN, Outlook
>> Express, or Thunderbird then you never had a scoring feature
>> available to understand how to use it or practice using it.
>
> Why would I want to use Bayesian scoring on a newsreader?
history using weighting of keywords. YOU can decide on what are the
keywords either by directly adding to the list of keywords or simply
tagging messages as spam or ham. But I'm sure that's not why you asked
"why", was it?
>> however, I only have static filters to define heuristics that
>> are based on my observations, not a statistical historical
>> database on which to weight keywords over time.
>
> What does that have to do with usenet posts?
cannot recognize their prose?
> Are you saying that you want to impliment usenet message scoring to
> differentiate legit posts from spam posts?
keywords that I decide either by direct database or list update or by
weighting over time ("learn") on messages added as ham/spam or bad/good
or suspect/bad or troll/notTroll or whatever you want to create a means
for differentiating some types from others.
I'm not looking to replicate CleanFeed or Breidbart Index which are
rating articles based on their duplication count or group count.
I'm looking to more emulate something like SPEWS, APEWS, or UCEprotect.
that don't identify a particular spam source but instead rate the
spamminess of various e-mail sources but, in my case, I'd be rating the
trollishness of various injection nodes to Usenet with aggregate scoring
that includes not just the injection node but other headers and perhaps
eventually might include keyword searches in the body (but I'd need a
different newreader for that or start looking at running my own Hamster
leech server). Those blacklists weren't about identifying particular
spam sources but to score the likelihood of spam originating from the
mail servers. Users of clients that incorporated SPEWS, etc, did so
incorrectly in attempting to use them as a red/green flag system
(messages is good or bad) as they were designed to be used within a
scoring system where various criteria added together that would, in
total, affect the red/green rating of a mail source. I'm not even
looking to emulate that high-level of scoring but just put into filters
some heuristics from observation.
> If your main focus is on message scoring, why is that not apparent from
> the Subject that you gave to this thread?
scoring, I have to accumulate some info on the quality, or lack thereof,
of posts that originate from various Usenet sources. I've already
differentiated the remailers and gateways from Usenet providers and now
I'm looking at doing the same for differentiating registered versus
unregistered free Usenet providers.
I really didn't think scoring in a newsreader was such rocket science to
so many respondents here.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH writes:
>
>> Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts. It's
>> been way too long since I last trialed Thunderbird but, as I recall,
>> scoring wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your newsreader.
>
> Scoring is something that I have a basic understanding of, but cannot
> recall ever using. [It was always just a beta add-on for Turnpike,
> but I may have experimented with Dialog.]
>
> AIUI, scoring 'promotes', or 'demotes' articles in the viewed list.
> Personally, I either want to read a post, or I don't, so have never
> had the inclination to adopt scoring. Have I misunderstood something?
You can sort on the score value (which can be an absolute value assigned
by the last filter that uses an absolute value or can be an aggregate of
positive or negative values assigned by each filter). You can also
decide on an action based on a threshold in the score value, like
colorize or flag a post (which won't affect sorting unless, of course,
you sort on the flag).
For example, I can use filters to add or subtract from the score for an
article based of various criteria (within a filter or across multiple
filters). I could then decide whether or not to retrieve the article
using "!retrieve Score %> 1000" or "!setcolor(red;default),ignore,unmark
Score %< -5000". In the first case, I'm committing an action to get the
article if it's "good" enough to warrant retrieving. In the second
case, I'm adding or removing flags (colorizing, set Ignore flag, and
unmark so it doesn't affect new-message count). I use a default view of
"Hide Ignored Messages" but if I need to look at them (as was needed to
see the various "style" of replies to this thread) then they are still
there. Plus if I delete them then the option to flag on an entire
subthread won't work and I'll see replies to posts that I would
otherwise not want to normally see, so I keep but flag as Ignored and
use a view that hides the ignored posts. I don't have to ignore. I
might just colorize to alert me of some traits of a post that I might
want to look at and the particular choice of foreground and background
colors lets me know what type of rule triggered on that message.
So I don't just get to sort on scores to bubble good posts to the top
and bubble the bad posts to the bottom. It's an option but not the only
one. I can also commit actions based on the scores which can affect
attributes assigned to the posts which, in turn, can affect the view of
the articles: colorized, ignored (and hidden), marked Keep, marked
Watched, etc.
vg4cysss7001
writes
>
>> VanguardLH writes:
>>
>>> Scoring is something some newsreaders can do to rate posts. It's
>>> been way too long since I last trialed Thunderbird but, as I recall,
>>> scoring wasn't a feature available in Thunderbird, your newsreader.
>>
>> Scoring is something that I have a basic understanding of, but cannot
>> recall ever using. [It was always just a beta add-on for Turnpike,
>> but I may have experimented with Dialog.]
>>
>> AIUI, scoring 'promotes', or 'demotes' articles in the viewed list.
>> Personally, I either want to read a post, or I don't, so have never
>> had the inclination to adopt scoring. Have I misunderstood something?
>
>You can sort on the score value (which can be an absolute value assigned
>by the last filter that uses an absolute value or can be an aggregate of
>positive or negative values assigned by each filter). You can also
>decide on an action based on a threshold in the score value,
Thanks, I did not know, or had forgotten, that it could be used
for actions. My knowledge of Dialog is superficial, but a re-install is
pending. Your post kept for future reference.
UGG
Paul Derbyshir3 in lamely shipping a whole new
spew, with that classic "on top" thrust at the peak
of Thooldom with.
>I can find plenty of lists on free Usenet providers and some even show
>which are read-only or accept posts but I haven't found one that lists
>Usenet servers that are well able to carry my volume of batshit crazy
>tirade
Quit using the fingers as "all day suckers" !! vLH!
You were well warned about mixing viagra with
the nail varnish. Beat the flesh and save us the
projection of that flaying, as you spit the
parings - nail chewing.
Some Guy
> Are you saying you have so little experience with troll posts that
> you cannot recognize their prose?
I can recognize the likely usefullness of posts based on who the author
is. People tend to use static identities when posting to specific
groups, and I can choose not to read specific posts based on who the
author is and what my impression is of the usefullness of their
previously-posted material.
For true trolls or nonsense posters (such as Tony Lance) I can kill-file
them so I don't even see their posts.
> > Are you saying that you want to impliment usenet message scoring
> > to differentiate legit posts from spam posts?
>
> Could be spam, could be profanity, could be engrisch, could be
> whatever keywords that I decide either by direct database or
> list update or by weighting over time ("learn") on messages
> added as ham/spam or bad/good or suspect/bad or troll/notTroll
> or whatever you want to create a means for differentiating some
> types from others.
Sounds like too much work for too little reward.
Or perhaps the groups you read contain a lot of noise from troublesome
posters - in which case I would simply stop reading such groups.
> > If your main focus is on message scoring, why is that not
> > apparent from the Subject that you gave to this thread?
>
> Because before I figure out what I'm going to do with regards to
> scoring, I have to accumulate some info on the quality, or lack
> thereof, of posts that originate from various Usenet sources.
So when you analyze any given post, part of your scoring will take into
account if the injection server requires user authentication or not, and
whether the injection server is free or paid.
I think there is a misconception that a die-hard spammer or troll can't
be just as successful using a free server that requires authentication
vs a free server that doesn't. For NNTP authentication purposes, it's
easy to obtain lots of different credentials because it's easy to obtain
lots of different free e-mail accounts. So I fail to see why or how
NNTP user authentication can really reduce the amount of troublesome
users or disruptive posts.
> I really didn't think scoring in a newsreader was such rocket
> science to so many respondents here.
Because the task of scoring to identify what you call trolls is not
useful or relevant for most of us.
And I think the word troll is thrown around far too casually and
incorrectly by most people anyways.
suzeeq
Totally agree with all your points. In any given newsgroup, the
troll/nuisance posters are well known and one can ignore or kill file
posts by them. Yes, they nym shift, but they use servers that don't
require login registration as much as those who do so I don't see that
scoring based on that will accomplish anything.
thoolen
NaN> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers
NaN> Throwing a whole flask of new Port, VLH went up against
NaN> Paul Derbyshir3 in lamely shipping a whole new
NaN> spew, with that classic "on top" thrust at the peak
NaN> of Thooldom with.
What does your hallucination have to do with free newsservers, murphy?
And who is "Paul Derbyshir3", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.
NaN> > I can find plenty of lists on free Usenet providers and some even
show
NaN> > which are read-only or accept posts but I haven't found one that
lists
NaN> > Usenet servers that are well able to carry my volume of batshit crazy
NaN> > tirade
VanguardLH didn't write that, murphy, yet you attributed it to him
anyway. Classic dishonesty on your part, murphy.
NaN> Quit using the fingers as "all day suckers" !! vLH!
What does your unsubstantiated allegation regarding VanguardLH have to
do with free newsservers, murphy?
NaN> You were well warned about mixing viagra with
NaN> the nail varnish.
What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with free newsservers, murphy? Google can find no post mentioning those
substances and addressed to VanguardLH before yours just now, murphy.
NaN> Beat the flesh and save us the projection of that flaying, as you
NaN> spit the parings - nail chewing.
What does your directive to VanguardLH have to do with free newsservers,
murphy?
"I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
to provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
subscription based Free Usenet access, nothing more than
cooperation expected in return for what has been many
thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I joined with
are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA..
now it is my Time. ...
You just read my last. ...
For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
you severe Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me
well (eMail, whatever) and see me, know I will be smiling also.
It is to you I say "adieu mein frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs]
for all the Good Times! May you and yours always bear well
with all Life brings you".
/0ut"
--murphy
http://www.uffnet.com/kookkamp/goodbye.htm
And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.
P.S. You forgot to include a copy of your famous paranoid "Lits 'o Haet"
in your post, murphy. Still suffering from memory problems, murphy?
VanguardLH
attract more. You know the old adage: a teaspoon of honey attacts more
flies than a barrel of vinegar. I suspect (but am trying to prove [to
myself within the sampling of posts that I see]) that trolls, forgers,
and other undesirables are more attracted to unregistered servers than
they are registered ones. I'm not proving they cannot use registered
servers as obviously many do, but not having to register certainly
removes the nuisance of, say, an imposter to keep changing their forged
identity on every post or whenever they feel like it.
Some e-mail services are preferred by spammers because they don't get
kicked off, there is no outbound filtering, there is no registration, or
the service may even lure them to generate revenue for those accounts.
Some e-mail servers are more spammy than others. Tis probably similar
for unregistered free servers attracting more undesirables. Do you have
any statistics to prove otherwise?
>> I really didn't think scoring in a newsreader was such rocket
>> science to so many respondents here.
>
> Because the task of scoring to identify what you call trolls is not
> useful or relevant for most of us.
have more interest to you or to see how many posters are using the even
worse v15 of Windows Live Mail or to differentiate those posting at
night or during the day or <pick your own criteria>. Now I think you're
just playing dumb to be argumentative. I suspect you know how scoring
works and know that its use depends on what criteria was defined.
You can argue all you want about the usefullness or your desire to use
scoring for whatever purpose but that wasn't my question - which was
which NNTP servers are registered and which are unregistered - and which
you haven't addressed (so I'll assume you don't know any other than
maybe AIOE - the one you use - that's already been counted). It's
starting to look more like you defending your choice of an unregistered
free Usenet provider rather than realizing someone other than yourself
does see a usefulness to scoring.
If you do happen to know of any unregistered free Usenet providers
(other than AIOE) then feel free to mention them; else, we can end this
subthread with use agreeing to disagree on the usefulness of scoring.
VanguardLH
> Totally agree with all [Spam Guy's] points. In any given newsgroup, the
> troll/nuisance posters are well known and one can ignore or kill file
> posts by them. Yes, they nym shift, but they use servers that don't
> require login registration as much as those who do so I don't see that
> scoring based on that will accomplish anything.
Reread your statement. You just qualified my use of scoring on
unregistered free servers. "[Nymshifters] use servers that don't
require login". So do forgers or anyone wanting to change their
identity at any time to avoid kill filters or impugn someone else's net
identity. There is a nuisance with a registered free service (i.e.,
there is a cost) to creating a new account, and doing so again should
the old one get killed off. There's no nuisance whatsoever with
unregistered free servers.
By the way, you are agreeing with a nymshifter: Some Guy aka Sum Guy aka
Virus Guy aka Spam Guy aka Home Guy aka 98 Guy aka News Guy aka Intel
Guy aka Netscape Guy aka HVAC Guy aka ... (I'm sure I don't have all of
his nyms). He posts through AIOE, an unregistered free server.
Some Guy
> If you do happen to know of any unregistered free Usenet providers
> (other than AIOE) then feel free to mention them;
http://www.freeusenetnews.com/
Also: tioat.net
Some Guy
> "[Nymshifters] use servers that don't require login".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but once my news reader has "logged into" a
news server that requires user-name and password, then I'm still free
and able to set my identity (as appears in the headers of my posts as
set by my news-reader software) to anything I want, irregardless what UN
is used to log into the server.
suzeeq
in. You cut that part out.
Adam H. Kerman
You cannot hide your identity. Your personality betrays you, no matter
what you post as.
VanguardLH
associate a post with an account. Therefore, for example, if you have
an account at that provider and someone forges you using an account
there then you can get their account killed to nuisance them for their
forgery.
That end users don't get anything specifically identifiable to a
particular user of an account doesn't mean it's hidden from the provider
that gave you the account.
Johnny B. Good
that put a unique X-ID (or something the like) into the headers which
enables end users to check whether a posting with a certain identity
in the From: header originates from the same account as others with the
same identity.
Admittedly, these servers are a minority.
--
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VanguardLH
> I also mentioned they use severs that do require registering and
> loggin in. You cut that part out.
Sorry, I misinterpreted the "as much as those who do". You said, "Yes,
they nym shift, but they use servers that don't require login
registration as much as those who do". So if I'm correctly interpreting
your statement now, are you really intending to claim knowledge of
posting statistics in stipulating that:
There are M nymshifters using unregistered free servers.
There are N nymshifters using registered free servers.
You claim (without evidence) that M is approximately equal to N.
Since you have never filtered on posts to differentiate between posts
originating from registered versus unregistered servers, especially
since your newsreader can't do that, just how do you qualify your
statement? You haven't even looked. I might find out that:
M ≈ N
or
M >> N
or
M << N
(≈ is about equal, >> is much larger than, << is much less than)
I won't know until I actually look. You don't look because: (1) it
requires effort you don't want to expend; (2) what's of no interest to
you so must surely be of no interest to everyone else; (3) perhaps you
don't want to know; and, (4) you don't have a newsreader that will
provide the means for you to measure. You make an unfounded statement
with no evidence to back it up. It's obvious that this was something in
which you never before investigated so you can't even claim you have a
feeling or experience with how the numbers come up. You, like others,
are just making conjectures.
At least, I'm trying to generate some evidence (for my own use). You
and the others want to guess, hope, or claim that two candy jars have
about the same count versus me who would like to do some real counting.
VanguardLH
They list free NNTP servers along with which ones accept posts and which
ones do not. Alas, like the other lists of free servers that I've seen
before, they don't differentiate between unregistered and registered
free servers.
> Also: tioat.net
DNS: tioat.net = 74.166.220.220
rDNS: 74.166.220.220 = adsl-074-166-220-220.sip.bct.bellsouth.net
The reverse DNS lookup and IP geolocation indicate this is some
Bellsouth DSL home user around Boca Raton, FL.
You sure that isn't a remailer (open proxy). I have a category for
remailers/proxies. I had tioat already listed as a remailer but thanks
for the response.
Note:
I see Jeff Relf (or whomever claimed to be him) mentioned tioat back on
Oct 7 but I never saw his post until just now. Yeah, he's flagged but I
don't delete flagged posts (unless over 60 days old to remove stale
posts from Dialog's database). I flag as Ignored and use a default view
that hides ignore-marked posts (along with their subthreads to also hide
replies). For this discussion I changed the view to see all posts yet
his doesn't show. Looks like it never made it to my server (Albasani).
His Message-ID header value is odd (<Jeff-Relf.Me@2011_Oct.7^9.02.pm>).
Is the caret allowed? He used xsusenet for submission but I can see
posts from other xsusenet posters. I flag his posts but this one didn't
even make it to my NNTP server to retrieve from there. Just in case I
hit the Del key to remove his post when it had focus, I used Dialog's
"Reconstruct Thread" that pulls any articles in a thread that aren't
stored locally in Dialog (as long as they are still available on the
server). Still didn't get his post (from news.albasani.net). I chanced
upon his post when looking at the Google Groups copy of this thread and
saw his which does have the MID in his References header showing he
replied to my post. The Google Groups copy of his post is at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.free.newsservers/msg/70abe7091f7153ee?dmode=source.
Weird. Even my NNTP server doesn't like him (oh, geez, now I suppose a
love-hate subthread will start on Relf).
Franklin
Posting nym and identity are not necessarily the same thing.
Steve Crook
Message-Id: <j6ogck$dl$1...@news.albasani.net>:
> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
> - Free
> - Allow posting.
> - No login.
news.mixmin.net meets all of those conditions. You can only post via
TLS or NNTPS connections.
§ñühwö£f
OMG...you are so fucking anal.
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suzeeq
> suzeeq wrote:
>
>> I also mentioned they use severs that do require registering and
>> loggin in. You cut that part out.
>
> Sorry, I misinterpreted the "as much as those who do". You said, "Yes,
> they nym shift, but they use servers that don't require login
> registration as much as those who do". So if I'm correctly interpreting
> your statement now, are you really intending to claim knowledge of
> posting statistics in stipulating that:
>
> There are M nymshifters using unregistered free servers.
> There are N nymshifters using registered free servers.
> You claim (without evidence) that M is approximately equal to N.
unregistered free servers.
> Since you have never filtered on posts to differentiate between posts
> originating from registered versus unregistered servers, especially
> since your newsreader can't do that, just how do you qualify your
> statement?
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH wrote:
>> suzeeq wrote:
>>
>>> I also mentioned they use severs that do require registering and
>>> loggin in. You cut that part out.
>>
>> Sorry, I misinterpreted the "as much as those who do". You said, "Yes,
>> they nym shift, but they use servers that don't require login
>> registration as much as those who do". So if I'm correctly interpreting
>> your statement now, are you really intending to claim knowledge of
>> posting statistics in stipulating that:
>>
>> There are M nymshifters using unregistered free servers.
>> There are N nymshifters using registered free servers.
>> You claim (without evidence) that M is approximately equal to N.
>
> To clarify in simple termes - Nym shifters use both registered and
> unregistered free servers.
>> Since you have never filtered on posts to differentiate between posts
>> originating from registered versus unregistered servers, especially
>> since your newsreader can't do that, just how do you qualify your
>> statement?
>
> I can read headers.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH:
>> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the
>> following:
>> - Free
>> - Allow posting.
>> - No login.
>
> news.mixmin.net meets all of those conditions. You can only post via
> TLS or NNTPS connections.
an NNTP server where they leave most of your client's headers and then
add their own, remailers strip out all the original headers and add
their own and the sender embeds instructions on where to deliver their
message (e.g., they can specify any nym (name & e-mail address), like to
forge another poster's identity, or they could use some default nym
shared by multiple posters).
That's one that I've already listed and categorized as a remailer
source. Thanks for the suggestion, though, since it's possible that I
didn't already know about that one.
alon78
100% of your trolling would cease and the 10% of
your brain actually engaged mite just get a holiday.
Steve Crook
Message-Id: <j73n3k$ski$1...@news.albasani.net>:
> Isn't that considered a remailer or open proxy service?
services related to remailers and mail2news gateways that, in some
instances, leverage the NNTP service but they do so without requiring
any bespoke configuration.
> That is, unlike an NNTP server where they leave most of your client's
> headers and then add their own, remailers strip out all the original
> headers and add their own and the sender embeds instructions on where
> to deliver their message (e.g., they can specify any nym (name &
> e-mail address), like to forge another poster's identity, or they
> could use some default nym shared by multiple posters).
the perception that they aid in forging other identities. In fact they
offer less user-configurability in terms of forgery than a normal
Newsreader (where all headers are user-definable).
Adam H. Kerman
Forgery is the use of a mailbox on From that belongs to another user
without permission, or use of any mailbox on any host in a domain without
permission that the user is not associated with.
If From is the only forged header, it's a forgery regardless of whether
the user pre-loaded a path.
If this service accepts articles from users who forge From headers,
then they aid in forging the identities of others. It's a yes or no issue.
Steve Crook
Message-Id: <j746qd$t59$1...@news.albasani.net>:
> Do you have a different definition of forgery than everyone else?
>
> Forgery is the use of a mailbox on From that belongs to another user
> without permission, or use of any mailbox on any host in a domain without
> permission that the user is not associated with.
>
> If From is the only forged header, it's a forgery regardless of whether
> the user pre-loaded a path.
> If this service accepts articles from users who forge From headers,
> then they aid in forging the identities of others. It's a yes or no issue.
headers. As this thread was specifically about my service then I can
categorically state that the mailbox element of the From header is not
user-definable when posting to Usenet via the Remailer.
When posting to Usenet using the standard news.mixmin.net, the usual
Usenet rules apply and any From header can be used, *unless* the owner
of that address has requested it's blocked and have verified their
ownership of the address. Then I manually put a rule in to block its
usage.
Michael Moroney
dude.
Jeff-Relf.Me
I like Double-A ( the old bum ) because, although he has money, he doesn't spend it on shelter. He'd rather invest it in the stock market; so he won't be the poorest man in the cemetery, I assume. He likes fine spirits; he once had a wife, a kid, and a good income. I too used to have a wife and kids. I don't miss them, I'm glad they're gone. [ My ex divorced me to marry her lover ] In a way, my life has improved with age; physically, I'm falling apart but, mentally, I'm stronger.
Adam H. Kerman
>On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:05:01 +0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Do you have a different definition of forgery than everyone else?
>>Forgery is the use of a mailbox on From that belongs to another user
>>without permission, or use of any mailbox on any host in a domain without
>>permission that the user is not associated with.
>>If From is the only forged header, it's a forgery regardless of whether
>>the user pre-loaded a path.
>Adam, I fully support your view of what constitutes a forgery.
>>If this service accepts articles from users who forge From headers,
>>then they aid in forging the identities of others. It's a yes or no issue.
>With (I think) one exception, no Remailers support user-defined From
>headers. As this thread was specifically about my service then I can
>categorically state that the mailbox element of the From header is not
>user-definable when posting to Usenet via the Remailer.
I thought you told him that you don't require a login.
>When posting to Usenet using the standard news.mixmin.net, the usual
>Usenet rules apply and any From header can be used, *unless* the owner
>of that address has requested it's blocked and have verified their
>ownership of the address. Then I manually put a rule in to block its
>usage.
So the actual user that email address belongs to won't know to contact
you unless he spots a forged article.
I'm confused as to how it's not user-definable, unless you've blocked it.
That sounds user-definable to me.
Steve Crook
Message-Id: <j74jr8$s83$1...@news.albasani.net>:
>>With (I think) one exception, no Remailers support user-defined From
>>headers. As this thread was specifically about my service then I can
>>categorically state that the mailbox element of the From header is not
>>user-definable when posting to Usenet via the Remailer.
>
> I thought you told him that you don't require a login.
>>When posting to Usenet using the standard news.mixmin.net, the usual
>>Usenet rules apply and any From header can be used, *unless* the owner
>>of that address has requested it's blocked and have verified their
>>ownership of the address. Then I manually put a rule in to block its
>>usage.
>
> So the actual user that email address belongs to won't know to contact
> you unless he spots a forged article.
* A forgery occurs
* Owner of forged address contacts me
* I reply to the address to confirm its theirs (Challenge response)
* They confirm it is and confirm they want it stopped
* I block use of that address through news.mixmin.net
How would you propose it should work without the owner notifying the
admin of a forgery? The admin cannot know who owns the right to any
given email address.
> I'm confused as to how it's not user-definable, unless you've blocked it.
> That sounds user-definable to me.
talking specifically about direct posting to Usenet using a standard
news client.
Adam H. Kerman
>>>With (I think) one exception, no Remailers support user-defined From
>>>headers. As this thread was specifically about my service then I can
>>>categorically state that the mailbox element of the From header is not
>>>user-definable when posting to Usenet via the Remailer.
>>I thought you told him that you don't require a login.
>It doesn't require a login.
>>>When posting to Usenet using the standard news.mixmin.net, the usual
>>>Usenet rules apply and any From header can be used, *unless* the owner
>>>of that address has requested it's blocked and have verified their
>>>ownership of the address. Then I manually put a rule in to block its
>>>usage.
>>So the actual user that email address belongs to won't know to contact
>>you unless he spots a forged article.
>Correct. The process goes:
>* A forgery occurs
>* Owner of forged address contacts me
>* I reply to the address to confirm its theirs (Challenge response)
>* They confirm it is and confirm they want it stopped
>* I block use of that address through news.mixmin.net
>How would you propose it should work without the owner notifying the
>admin of a forgery? The admin cannot know who owns the right to any
>given email address.
that it's user defineable and, therefore, your site could be used for
forgery (same as any other site).
>>I'm confused as to how it's not user-definable, unless you've blocked it.
>>That sounds user-definable to me.
>The thread is becoming ambiguous about remailer and news postings. I'm
>talking specifically about direct posting to Usenet using a standard
>news client.
Tony
things by making you login.
VanguardLH wrote:
> I can find plenty of lists on free Usenet providers and some even show
> which are read-only or accept posts but I haven't found one that lists
> Usenet servers that are:
>
> (free) AND (posting allowed) AND (no login)
>
> Examples:
>
> Giganews:
> Free = false
> Posting allowed = true
> No Login = false
> Albasani:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = false
> AIOE:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = true
> Eternal-September:
> Free = true
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = false
> Teranews:
> Free = false
> Posting allowed = true
> No login = false
>
> Of this sample, only AIOE matches the criteria of a free post-accepting
> no-login Usenet provider. When discussing free Usenet providers, one
> way to categorize them is as registered (posting allowed, account login
> required) and unregistered (posting allowed, no login). I'd like to
> find out who are the unregistered free Usenet providers to start scoring
> on them.
>
> As for being free, ANY cost involved in setting up an account
> disqualifies a provider as offering a free service. For example,
> Teranews charges a setup fee so they are disqualified as a free Usenet
> provider as it will cost the poster another setup fee to establish a new
> account. individual.net is cheap at 10 euro/year but that's still not
> free. As for posting, any posting count greater than zero qualifies as
> "posting allowed" even if they have a restrictive quota (e.g., AIOE at
> 25 posts/day is a "posting allowed" provider as we've seen plenty of
> nymshifting trolls post through there). "No login" means the poster
> does not have to enter anything for login credentials to use the server
> to submit posts or the same fixed login is shared by everyone using that
> server and the login is well known, published, and never disabled by the
> provider; i.e., it's an open server to everyone.
>
> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
> - Free
> - Allow posting.
> - No login.
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Message-Id: <j74r6i$bvn$1...@news.albasani.net>:
> I'm not proposing a change in your policy. I'm asking you to acknowledge
> that it's user defineable and, therefore, your site could be used for
> forgery (same as any other site).
Yes, like any Usenet site, the From address is user-definable and
vulnerable to forgeries.
> Isn't the From address when using the remailer also user defineable?
No, when messages are posted through the remailer the From address is
constructed as:
UserDefined <nob...@mixmin.net>
The text is user-definable but the mailbox is totally static. This is
done to ensure the anonymity service is just that and absolutely not a
forgery service.
Adam H. Kerman
>On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:52:50 +0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Isn't the From address when using the remailer also user defineable?
>No, when messages are posted through the remailer the From address is
>constructed as:
>UserDefined <nob...@mixmin.net>
>The text is user-definable but the mailbox is totally static. This is
>done to ensure the anonymity service is just that and absolutely not a
>forgery service.
Fine.
MartinS
> I'm not sure if I am supposed to be insulted by ranking behind a homeless
> dude.
I wouldn't want to be behind hin if he's that rank.
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VanguardLH
> Path: ...!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> I'm looking for the same thing. I don't know why these idiots complicate
> things by making you login.
Looking? Looks like you already found one (AIOE). Maybe you meant you
wanted another as a backup to AIOE. Some were mentioned here but you'll
have to dig around the various subthreads.
I've seen plenty of lists for free Usenet providers, which ones are
read-only or accept postings, and other info but I haven't found one yet
that specifies which ones require login or not (i.e., registered versus
unregistered).
G=EMC^2
> I like Double-A ( the old bum ) because, although he has money, he doesn't spend it on shelter. He'd rather invest it in the stock market; so he won't be the poorest man in the cemetery, I assume. He likes fine spirits; he once had a wife, a kid, and a good income. I too used to have a wife and kids. I don't miss them, I'm glad they're gone. [ My ex divorced me to marry her lover ] In a way, my life has improved with age; physically, I'm falling apart but, mentally, I'm stronger.
Double A Across from me is a big cemetery. (its handy) They want me
to pay in advance. They told me they do not take checks from stiffs
Should I coffin up the money? I'm dying to hear the answer. TreBert
HVAC
Use the money to get dead drunk.
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its done with crazy mushrooms washed down with Bud Light. I predict
people that eat MSP after turning 26 will live 1,000 years. I
predicted "Sweet potato chips" See them now sold. MSP helped my
eyes,but no help to my hearing. Still working on my ear wash
chemicals. Its fun to do experiments. I wish I could get a job at Bell
Lab TreBert
Twittering One
Who is Double A, & where is this person?
Jeff-Relf.Me
Double A is in Hillsboro, just west of Beaverton, west of Portland. He's 62 years old, so he gets Social Security checks. He's homeless because he doesn't want to spend money on rent. So, when he dies, he won't be the poorest man in the cemetery.
Twittering One
> Double A is in Hillsboro, just west of Beaverton, west of Portland. He's 62 years old, so he gets Social Security checks. He's homeless because he doesn't want to spend money on rent. So, when he dies, he won't be the poorest man in the cemetery.
Twittering One
swinging that?"
~ "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
By Ken Kesey
Page 198
http://books.google.com/books?id=uKHcD2A7qBwC&pg=PA198&lpg=PA198&dq=%22one+flew+over+the+cuckoo's+nest%22+beaverton&source=bl&ots=f5pxDlSS9n&sig=u-Dsjf4bClZvzJhaunzARdBD7-s&hl=en&ei=z_ueTsKAIeLx0gHSwPDJCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=beaverton&f=false
Emmett BADASS Gulley
> Johnny B. Good wrote:
>
> >> I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
> >> - Free
> >> - Allow posting.
> >> - No login.
>
> > Posting allowed = true
> > No login = true
>
> > Posting allowed = true
> > No login = true
>
> > Posting allowed = true
> > No login = true
>
>
> > news.mixmin.net:
> > Posting allowed = true
> > No login = true
>
>
> I had tioat, mixmin, and many others already flagged as a remailer to
> identify posts coming from those type of sources.
>
> I had netfront.net flagged for their appended spam since it is NOT after
> a proper sigdash line. Looks like you added a blank signature to
> obviate their spamification of your post. This forces their appended
> spam into the signature. Good work. Few netfront users do that to
> intentionally despamify their posts (as opposed to accidentally because
> they added some fluff signature). Yeah, it still has spam but, at
> least, it's in a signature. I didn't realize it wasn also an free
> unregistered service. http://www.netfront.net/support/engie3setup.htm
> shows that they don't require login.
>
> Thanks for some info.
Sorry to bust your bubble but YES, netfront requires login, i just
checked
Emmett BADASS Gulley
> On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:35:58 -0500, VanguardLH wrote in
> Message-Id: <j6ogck$dl$1...@news.albasani.net>:
> > I'm looking for providers (to score on) that are ALL of the following:
> > - Free
> > - Allow posting.
> > - No login.
>
them to me once but i lost them when i got a new laptop.
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YEESH!! E-MUTT!! LOL!!
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Message-Id: <8448e8a5-710f-4a5f...@n13g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>:
> Steve, what are the login credentials for news.mixmin.net?? You gave
> them to me once but i lost them when i got a new laptop.
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