Why you should pay heed...
Wesley Mouch
Hall. While I have not been able to post here for a month or so I have
continued to monitor this newsgroup. I have beamed with pride at the
many valid observations so eloquently expressed in many a riveting
essay by Mr. Hall, a man of high ideals, valid ideas and stout heart
in the face of adversity.
I feel I owe Mr. Hall a debt of gratitude for his efforts on my behalf
that may have helped me get reinstated to Motzarella. (The cheesy free
news server, as he calls it - ha ha ha!) Something rotten in Denmark?
Err, . . . Germany?
Anyway, let me get on with it. Pay attention please.
Free news servers should be available to all. In any good socialist
country free new servers (and Internet access) will be provided by the
State. That way, instead of a hodgepodge of contradictory rules and
regulations, there will be just one set of clear guidelines that are
enforced by the State. Users will know exactly where they stand and
there will be little or no confusion.
And, if the State runs the news servers you can count on the fact that
they will not be so badly run as what we see evidenced in the private
sector where the service is just so hit and miss. Comrades, I ask you
why would you wish to put up with such mediocrity if something far
superior were available for free? Why should there be an entire
newsgroup set up just so you can complain (but to no avail) about poor
free news server performance?
Think about it, please.
P.S. Who is Phlat-Arse and why does he post so much blather?
--
Wesley Mouch
State Science Institute
MartinS
> Who is Phlat-Arse and why does he post so much blather?
Who is "Wesley Mouch" and why does he post so much claptrap?
--
Martin S.
Ray Banana
> Wesley Mouch <statescien...@notmail.invalid> wrote:
>> Who is Phlat-Arse and why does he post so much blather?
> Who is "Wesley Mouch" and why does he post so much claptrap?
Now why doesn't Mr. Hall-Mouch's article show up on Motzarella?
| Path:
| g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!news.alt.net
| !nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net
| !newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de
| !news.albasani.net!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!not-for-mail
While it looks rather plausible to the ingenuous reader, this path
statement is a blatant fake. As Motzarella has a direct peering with
sdsu.edu, there is no reason why this article should travel such a long
way to Google.
| !nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!
This part of the path, however, looks familiar to me. It was the source
of hundreds of thousands of sporge postings last year. The part right of
this was obviously faked (preloaded) by Mr. Asshall Mouch and, as a side
effect, prevented his fine specimen of net abuse to be propagated to
Motzarella, Albasani and T-Online.
| From: Wesley Mouch <statescienceinstit...@notmail.invalid>
At least, Mr. Hall-Mouch seems to have learned how to use an invalid
mail address.
| X-Trace: feeder.motzarella.org
| U2FsdGVkX19yckFWK5JRLdacseP6R3ziPCcf7Ol9WsVotSmhsc0DkCZT0RMJmKN8AoIbQk
| DrY7Iyo8fKRc46prnv5K0nz3TPzL7evBUTKJXRe78O/krxX2qkEs4eAUHTb4mDm+y2k=
| X-Auth-Sender: 2FsdVGkX1/Dvs7V+8RF7\WvFy8JEL(WMFQRFAp9vSFvHqIAnpCAWA==
These two headers only look like the ones produced by Motzarella. In
fact, they do not contain properly encrypted information.
"Ciphertext does not begin with a valid header for 'salt' header mode".
Ooops ...
| Cancel-Lock: sga1:XYBvc7qCMxQ3CSzDK+59NdPOQdM=
----
and here Mr. Mouch-Slouch demonstrates the full range of his
ignorance. I would recommend that he study the relevant parts of
http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-cancel-lock-01.txt
before making a fool of himself again.
--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.
http://news.motzarella.org
Steve
Message-Id: <8063qxy...@banana.shacknet.nu>:
>| !nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!
>
> This part of the path, however, looks familiar to me. It was the source
> of hundreds of thousands of sporge postings last year. The part right of
> this was obviously faked (preloaded) by Mr. Asshall Mouch and, as a side
> effect, prevented his fine specimen of net abuse to be propagated to
> Motzarella, Albasani and T-Online.
Strange that newshosting.com don't append a single header that's not
modifiable by the poster. Most services at least have a Complaints
header that gives away the genuine source.
Anyway, nice catch. :)
--
pub 1024D/228761E7 2003-06-04 Steven Crook
Key fingerprint = 1CD9 95E1 E9CE 80D6 C885 B7EB B471 80D5 2287 61E7
uid Steven Crook <st...@mixmin.net>
Paul
> You guys really know your stuff. Can you make any recommendations for
> a good source of information on Usenet headers for the unsophisticated
> layman? Information that goes beyond just format, but explains what
> peering is, etc. Kinda like "Usenet headers for Dummies".
>
> Thanks!
"Learn by doing" is more fun, and more entertaining.
It's a lot like watching some socks slipping on a freshly waxed floor.
Paul
Lenny_Nero
>
> This part of the path, however, looks familiar to me. It was the source
> of hundreds of thousands of sporge postings last year. The part right of
> this was obviously faked (preloaded) by Mr. Asshall Mouch and, as a side
> effect, prevented his fine specimen of net abuse to be propagated to
> Motzarella, Albasani and T-Online.
When you have to pay so much for text only each month, you should be
allowed to do the things that are so needed by true *free speech* path
preloading, nym shifting and the general ability to forge your posts and
hide behind all of the bullshit that goes with that sort of abuse.
L_N
--
Want to help to keep the best free usenet servers running ?
http://www.readfreenews.com
Gregory Hall
"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@duzim.com> wrote in message
news:prle84l946tsf6f9t...@hex.com...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:49:01 +0000 (UTC), "phlat_a®se"
> <þhlãt_arse@bak.òn.de.p00pdëk.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>Paul <nos...@needed.com>, scribbled in:
>>alt.free.newsservers
>>
>>>[..] Some Wanker using REM wrote:
>>>> You guys really know your stuff. Can you make any recommendations for
>>>> a good source of information on Usenet headers for the unsophisticated
>>>> layman? Information that goes beyond just format, but explains what
>>>> peering is, etc. Kinda like "Usenet headers for Dummies".
>>>>
>>electricity.. typing the message :-~
>>
>
> What is a REM?
>
>
>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>You're welcome.. too easy 'talking' to a brick wall :-/
>
> I have a hard time following what you are saying. I take it you are
> throwing some form of insult, but really it flies over my head. Do you
> have something against someone asking questions?
>
>>
>>>"Learn by doing" is more fun, and more entertaining.
>>>
>>the
>>stereotypical n00b in more trouble than it is worth.. look at Rays
>> "lesson for today" as just one example. The Path 'hack' and the
>> misuse of Cancel-Lock have to be TOS violations in any Netizens
>>language. All that is needed is an Admin to write to,, and that aint
>> that hard to figure <g>
>>A bit of a dramatic "learning curve".. you think?
>>
>>>It's a lot like watching some socks slipping on a freshly waxed floor.
>>>
>>
>>.tis the sudden stop at the end that hurts... the fall is a whizzzz !
>>
>> cYa.. thanks for your post, Paul... an' apols for the
>> piggyback.. REMS get no real-estate here at this
>> console. :->
>
> What is a REM?
Rapid Eye Movement - like when somebody's dreaming!
--
Gregory Hall
Gregory Hall
"Ray Banana" <ray...@banana.shacknet.nu> wrote in message
news:8063qxy...@banana.shacknet.nu...
<big snip>
| Cancel-Lock: sga1:XYBvc7qCMxQ3CSzDK+59NdPOQdM=
> ----
>
> and here Mr. Mouch-Slouch demonstrates the full range of his
> ignorance. I would recommend that he study the relevant parts of
>
> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-cancel-lock-01.txt
>
> before making a fool of himself again.
Looks like a simple typo to me. The 'g' is right next to the 'h' on the
keyboard. Wesley is a wonderful individual but his loyal staff who take care
of the things he dictates to them are not the most proficient. Good help is
hard to find nowadays. They claim to be expert hackers and crackers and some
can even write code; they claim to keep his location truly anonymous but
there is no guarantee. None at all. Government workers are highly overworked
and underpaid. Wesley has assured me that his transcribers have been warned
and had they pay docked so it won't happen again.
--
Gregory Hall
Nomen Nescio
Message-Id: <224d98....@news.alt.net>:
> Looks like a simple typo to me. The 'g' is right next to the 'h' on the
> keyboard. Wesley is a wonderful individual but his loyal staff who take care
> of the things he dictates to them are not the most proficient. Good help is
> hard to find nowadays. They claim to be expert hackers and crackers and some
> can even write code; they claim to keep his location truly anonymous but
> there is no guarantee. None at all. Government workers are highly overworked
> and underpaid. Wesley has assured me that his transcribers have been warned
> and had they pay docked so it won't happen again.
I have to admire the way you completely ignored all the elements of Ray's
posting that made you (oops, I mean Wesley) look a complete fool.
Despite my stated admiration, please be in no doubt that it's a nasty sarcastic
sort of admiration. I wouldn't want you to misconstrue some form of compliment
from it. Compliments where compliments are due, and you're not due any.
Ray Banana
> Wesley is a wonderful individual but his loyal staff who take care
> of the things he dictates to them are not the most proficient. Good help is
> hard to find nowadays. They claim to be expert hackers and crackers and some
> can even write code; they claim to keep his location truly anonymous but
> there is no guarantee. None at all. Government workers are highly overworked
> and underpaid. Wesley has assured me that his transcribers have been warned
> and had they pay docked so it won't happen again.
| Wesley Mouch was a new Usenet character of mine. I am a staunch conservative
| and a writer. As an exercise in attempting to understand the socialist
| mindset in order to create a more realistic socialist character for a novel
| I'm writing, I was attempting to "walk a mile in a socialist's shoes" to
| better understand that thought process and lifestyle.
Dr. Gregory "Jekyll" Mouch in
or
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.free.newsservers/msg/bf11f016da639ced?dmode=source
for Gogglegropers.
Gregory Hall
"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:7ffd9ffa9e194f04...@dizum.com...
Thanks . . . I think! But why should I take heed of anything some
REM-sleeping REMailer-using bozo says? Stand up like a man and use a real
news server. Just use one that doesn't publish your IP address if you're
worried about anonymity.
--
Gregory Hall
Gregory Hall
I was just playing along with you and Phalt_arse who seem to have hatched
some new scheme to try to get me in trouble. Don't get your panties in a
wad. Maybe you're barking up the wrong tree.
But, who is this new, counterfeit Wesley Mouch, I wonder? Some creation of
the Phat_Arse, most likely. That man's been out to get me, Gregory Hall,
from the start with all his lies about me being some kind of NewsMaestro
using sporger. He obviously knows a heap about Usenet headers so it would be
easy for him to forge them making it look like it was tied to me. He even is
forging my same Outlook Express headers. Shame on him! I guess I should go
back to X-News. But, he probably could forge those headers too.
My theory is that some clever person who has a grudge against you and Phlat
is using Gandalf's tactics he used to get the three mountain trolls fighting
among themselves till the sun rose and they turned to stone. He's probably
laughing his arse off knowing he's got you two running around in circles???
--
Gregory Hall
George G
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:10 +0100, w...@spambin.fsnet.co.uk
> (Wader of Doom) wrote:
>
>>Nomen Nescio <nob...@duzim.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is a REM?
>>
>>Organization: mail...@duzim.com - the universal mark of a
>>pariah.
>
>
> ???? I asked what a REM is. Is that a difficult question?
>
>>
>>Check out the Path: of your posts, especially the bit where
>>the path begins "!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news". HTH
>
> It doesn't really help at all. All I did was ask a simple
> question in a non threatening way, now people are running from
> me as if I had leprosy. Could someone please explain what is
> going on? Thank you.
My guess is that REM means remailer, and remailers are viewed with
suspicion by many usenetters.
phlat_a®se
the paper-boat with:
[..]
>> from it. Compliments where compliments are due, and you're not due any.
>>
>
>Thanks . . . I think! But why should I take heed of anything some
>REM-sleeping REMailer-using bozo says? Stand up like a man and use a real
>
My Gregory Boy, you have been busy backfilling and
shifting/tacking.. and waaaaay to busy to do some work with your
NM Script, I C /LMAO@ewe
Take a tip.. one you are far better off using than the few you
have extracted from this audience in NNTP Client/Server
operations.
Grant the audience (any audience) some credit for Brains..
... you are not the Guru of D00M you believe yourself to be.. in
fact, you are a very shallow person, one easily identified both
as a complete N00b (well proven) and as unstable as the
honeymooners table with a short leg, and just as
farkin' Noisy :-?.
HTDH
pA (_._)
phlat_a®se
[supplementary]
..and Bill,, what are your odds Hall is utilising
your version of nFilter,, eh ?
If it helps.. mine (odds) are short on that one :->>>
pA (_|_)
James E. Morrow
news:t9sc84tfb1g2oopd8...@kkk.com:
<Snip>
> I have beamed with pride at the
> many valid observations so eloquently expressed in many a riveting
> essay by Mr. Hall, a man of high ideals, valid ideas and stout heart
> in the face of adversity.
>
> I feel I owe Mr. Hall a debt of gratitude for his efforts on my behalf
> that may have helped me get reinstated to Motzarella.
<snip>
Confessions of a sock puppet.
--
James E. Morrow
Email to: jamese...@email.com
Sven Svensson
>>> Check out the Path: of your posts, especially the bit where
>>> the path begins "!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news". HTH
>> It doesn't really help at all. All I did was ask a simple
>> question in a non threatening way, now people are running from
>> me as if I had leprosy. Could someone please explain what is
>> going on? Thank you.
>
> My guess is that REM means remailer, and remailers are viewed with
> suspicion by many usenetters.
>
And all are killfiled.
RustY ©
"Wesley Mouch" <statescien...@notmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:t9sc84tfb1g2oopd8...@kkk.com...
> In any good socialist
> country free new servers (and Internet access) will be provided by the
> State.
Unfortunatly there is no such thing. No governments like free speech that
much.