Any updates on aioe and mixmin?

[badgolferman]

Any updates on aioe and mixmin?

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 09/04/2023 22:04, badgolferman wrote:

Any updates on aioe and mixmin?

The AIOE chap is dying so don't expect anything from AIOE. It is gone and not coming back.

MixMin is only read only at the moment on port 119. Posting is disabled until new peers are configured by Steve Crooks. He has recently changed jobs so he is quite busy at the moment.

Have you thought of paying $3.50 for 25GB Block Account from ThunderNews? <https://www.thundernews.com/>

the way block accounts work is that you continue using it until you have used all 25GB downloads and in the case of newsgroups, it will take you nearly 50 years to use all 25GB!!!!!! You have to agree that this is a very good value even for trolls on these newsgroups!!.

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[wattney]

badgolferman wrote:
> Any updates on aioe and mixmin?
>

Don't know about aioe, but now that you mention it, mixmin
is still having issues. Port 119 (no SSL) is read only,
SSL port 563 refuses connections.

[Sean]

On 09 Apr 2023, badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> posted
some news:u0v989$1s81n$1...@paganini.bofh.team:

> Any updates on aioe and mixmin?

AIOE

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Mixmin

Up and working with some limitations.
news.mixmin.net:563 not working.
YAMN is working.
NYM sporadic, may not be working for everyone, YMMV.

[Marco Moock]

Am 09.04.2023 um 22:15:50 Uhr schrieb wattney:

> Don't know about aioe, but now that you mention it, mixmin
> is still having issues. Port 119 (no SSL) is read only,
> SSL port 563 refuses connections.

The Mixmin spam server is working for me on 563.

[Paul]

On 4/9/2023 5:04 PM, badgolferman wrote:
> Any updates on aioe and mixmin?
>

Mixmin - status = "heh..."

Which means, roughly, it's down more than it's up.

At the current time, it's just sending RST in response
to incoming packets. Which means it is likely in the
same state it was before it was fixed for a few days.

Paul

[tim segovia]

On 10 Apr 2023, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> posted some
news:u10sjr$25npf$1...@dont-email.me:

Working for me.

[Paul]

Now working for me.

And I have been checking it in past days, so
this got fixed today.

Paul

[badgolferman]

I can't get news.mixmin.net:563 to work for me for weeks on end.
Are you using a different server than news.mixmin.net perchance?

[badgolferman]

Sean <sean...@dublin.ie> wrote:

> YAMN is working.
> NYM sporadic, may not be working for everyon

Do you have a server:port for yamn (is it username=blank, password=blank)?
Same question for nym's server:port if you have it please.

[badgolferman]

tim segovia <inv...@nowhere.net> wrote:

> Working for me.


Read only?
I can't get news.mixmin.net:563 username=blank, password=blank to send.

[badgolferman]

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:

> And I have been checking it in past days, so
> this got fixed today.

At around the time aioe went down, mixmin went to a multi-day delay
status for sent message using news.mixmin.net:563 and no credentials.

Sending this with news.mixmin.net:563 username=blank, password=blank
so if you get this, then it's working for me at this very moment too.

The current date is: Tue 04/11/2023
The current time is: 3:58:23.99

[JT]

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote in news:u122v1$2bgru$1...@news.mixmin.net:

I noticed kensi diarrhea flowing again.

[Marco Moock]

No, I have used the same as you. Did you connect via TOR?
It didn't work via TOR some weeks ago.

Why do you stick with Mixmin?
There are many other servers available that offer free registration and
work.

[badgolferman]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:

> There are many other servers available that offer free registration and
> work.

What other privacy focused free news servers offer free registration with
no username or password required, other than paganini.bofh.team:119 today?

If you can name a free no registration privacy server, I'll try it now.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

I bet you're not even charging her rent to take up so much space in your
head, Socky.

<snicker>

--
FNVWe Nadegda

"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with
you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
Checkmate admits that, for all intents and purposes, he carries a teddy
bear in public: <d6cnes.k...@news.alt.net>

[Marco Moock]

Am 11.04.2023 um 17:41:29 Uhr schrieb badgolferman:

> What other privacy focused free news servers offer free registration
> with no username or password required, other than
> paganini.bofh.team:119 today?

You can use eternal-septemberg, they don't verify your name, you can
enter Donald Duck.

[badgolferman]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:

>> What other privacy focused free news servers offer free registration
>> with no username or password required, other than
>> paganini.bofh.team:119 today?
>
> You can use eternal-septemberg, they don't verify your name, you can
> enter Donald Duck.

It's surprising that you didn't understand the question since you are
supposed to be knowledgeable in nntp server administration tasks.

The only nntp servers that didn't require registration that I knew about
were aioe, dizum, netfront, the problematic mixmin, paganini & tulanet.

I may be wrong as I don't know anything about free news servers, but I
thought you did, so if you know of any no-registration free newsservers,
then please let me know as the only one left I know above that is still
working is paganini, but that's so unreliable as to be as bad as mixmin.

You can post to paganini.bofh.team:119 once, and then when you post another
message it gives an arbitrary failure and if you keep trying (with the
exact same message!) you get _different_ arbitrary failures each time.

With both paganini & mixmin, sometimes it works - most of the times not.

I don't know anything so it's not surprising I don't know of any other
privacy aware free news server that does not require an email registration.

I will ask again since you didn't seem to understand the question, which is
what no-registration free news server do you know about other than those
(none of which actually work reliably, and only two work at all anymore).

[Adam H. Kerman]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:

>>>What other privacy focused free news servers offer free registration
>>>with no username or password required, other than
>>>paganini.bofh.team:119 today?

>>You can use eternal-septemberg, they don't verify your name, you can
>>enter Donald Duck.

>It's surprising that you didn't understand the question since you are
>supposed to be knowledgeable in nntp server administration tasks.

See if you can understand this. Your choices are

1) Stop whining and suck it up, or

2) Fuck off, seamus

Marco was being nice to you for no reason you deserve.

>. . .

[badgolferman]

"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> Marco was being nice to you for no reason you deserve.

I'm sorry but all I asked was an on topic question of a free news server
newsgroup and what Marco did was tell me to not ask such questions here.

If Marco didn't know the answer, why did he suggest the wrong answers?
Does Marco not understand what was different about aioe & netfront?

I'm not blaming Marco (but you're blaming me just for asking the question).
What do you think is so very wrong with asking this simple question anyway?

Are there any no-registration free news (aka nntp, usenet) servers other
than mixmin & paganini? (Why? Because both of them are highly unreliable.)

[Adam H. Kerman]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>Marco was being nice to you for no reason you deserve.

>I'm sorry but all I asked was an on topic question of a free news server
>newsgroup and what Marco did was tell me to not ask such questions here.

No, he didn't.

Are you expecting to be kicked off paganini soon, seamus?

>. . .

[badgolferman]

"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>I'm sorry but all I asked was an on topic question of a free news server
>>newsgroup and what Marco did was tell me to not ask such questions here.
>
> No, he didn't.

Does you really not know that Wolffang's server requires registration?

The question was & still is asking about no-registration free news servers.

Why do you think that basic question is not valid for this a.f.n newsgroup?

[David Canzi]

On 2023-04-12 11:43, badgolferman wrote:

> The only nntp servers that didn't require registration that I knew about
> were aioe, dizum, netfront, the problematic mixmin, paganini & tulanet.

...

> You can post to paganini.bofh.team:119 once, and then when you post another
> message it gives an arbitrary failure and if you keep trying (with the

First attempted posting through paganini.bofh.team.

--
David Canzi | "Nonconformists travel as a rule in bunches. You
| rarely find a nonconformist who goes it alone. And
| woe to him inside a nonconformist clique who does
| not conform with nonconformity." -- Eric Hoffer

[Marco Moock]

Am 12.04.2023 um 15:43:06 Uhr schrieb badgolferman:

> Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
>
> >> What other privacy focused free news servers offer free
> >> registration with no username or password required, other than
> >> paganini.bofh.team:119 today?
> >
> > You can use eternal-septemberg, they don't verify your name, you can
> > enter Donald Duck.
>
> It's surprising that you didn't understand the question since you are
> supposed to be knowledgeable in nntp server administration tasks.

You asked impossible things. Either it allows posting without
registration or it needs registration, that is maybe free.

Servers that don't need login and allow posting are most of the time
used for posting spam and troll messages. Everybody hates them and so
only a small amount of people operate such servers.

[David Canzi]

On 2023-04-12 11:43, badgolferman wrote:

> The only nntp servers that didn't require registration that I knew about
> were aioe, dizum, netfront, the problematic mixmin, paganini & tulanet.

...

> You can post to paganini.bofh.team:119 once, and then when you post another
> message it gives an arbitrary failure and if you keep trying (with the

Second attempted posting through paganini.bofh.team.

Live with the reputation you earn instead of fleeing to new nyms.

[badgolferman]

David Canzi <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> Second attempted posting through paganini.bofh.team.

Keep going... you can get maybe three or four postings per day before it
stops. Also you may get random errors which change with each posting.

You know they're random because you can get different errors each attempt.

[badgolferman]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:

> You asked impossible things. Either it allows posting without
> registration or it needs registration, that is maybe free.

In the first half of that sentence you say it's impossible.
Then in the second half, you state that you know it's possible.

Isn't _that_ impossible?

Maybe the real answer is simply that you just don't like the question?
But then, why did you respond to it if you don't know any answers?

The question is asking what free news servers don't require registration.
It's an appropriate question for this ng even though you don't like it.

[David Canzi]

On 2023-04-12 15:52, badgolferman wrote:
> David Canzi <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
>> Second attempted posting through paganini.bofh.team.
>
> Keep going... you can get maybe three or four postings per day before it
> stops. Also you may get random errors which change with each posting.

You predicted it would not be possible to post more than once
through paganini.bofh.team. I posted more than once. Now
you're just moving the goal posts.

It seems to me that any further interaction with you would be
a waster of time.

[Adam H. Kerman]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>>I'm sorry but all I asked was an on topic question of a free news server
>>>newsgroup and what Marco did was tell me to not ask such questions here.

>>No, he didn't.

>Does you really not know that Wolffang's server requires registration?

Don't deflect, seamus. You lied that Marco told you to fuck off. He's
been nice to you. You've been obnoxious.

>The question was & still is asking about no-registration free news servers.

>Why do you think that basic question is not valid for this a.f.n newsgroup?

The only relevant statement to make to you in followup whenever you
start making false accusations and lying is to tell you to fuck off,
seamus.

[badgolferman]

David Canzi <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> You predicted it would not be possible to post more than once
> through paganini.bofh.team. I posted more than once. Now
> you're just moving the goal posts.

Both Ivo's and Steve's no-registration servers have been random lately.
news.mixmin.net:119
paganini.bofh.team:119

Which is why the correct question is being asked of this a.f.n newsgroup.

If anyone can name a free no registration privacy server:port, I'll try it.
Please just list the server:port as that's all the information needed.

Thanks!

[badgolferman]

[Sn!pe]

Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote:

> Marco Moock had the audacity to say the following:

> If Donald Duck actually existed, Paul probably would enter him.

ITYF that all you need to register at E-S is a working email to
confirm your bona fides, your choice of account name and then
whatever From: name you like. Excessive morphing or other bad
behaviour will get you TOSsed. I imagine that Ray would take
precautions against people registering multiple accounts.

--
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<https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

[mixed nuts]

Frogging from multiple accounts seems OK.

--
Grizzly H.

[Sn!pe]

[raised eyebrow] I don't know about that.

[mixed nuts]

I, personally, have been frogged in front of the whole world, including
you, AND RAY. Nothing was done to stop it.



--
Grizzly H.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Use a genuine mailbox on From, you blithering idiot.

[mixed nuts]

I learnt that lesson back in '92 when the spamneeners et my inbox (Hael
Fluffy, meow meow Henrietta Pussycat the Presidents of the United States
meow).

--
Grizzly H.

[Adam H. Kerman]

You don't need to use the mailbox you use for Usenet as the primary
means of communicating with you by email in real life, you blithering
idiot.

If you want to make an abuse complaint, then it has to be about actual
abuse. Forgery is an example of abuse. Ray would have done something
about forgery.

You chose to shoot yourself in the foot. It's no one else's problem but
your own.

[The Clatch]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:u16ji9$329ke$1...@paganini.bofh.team:

Paganini always works for me, never miss a post.

[The Clatch]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote in news:u171cf$18kd$2...@dont-email.me:

That's simply not true. Free servers are appreciated and respected.
There are always a few turds who smell up a public communication resource
- unless it's a sewer by design, like Twitter for example.

[Free Speech]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:u172a5$33spo$1...@paganini.bofh.team:

Here's a few for your collection.

news.ripco.com
news.gmane.io
news.uni-stuttgart.de
news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

[Marco Moock]

Am 13.04.2023 schrieb Free Speech <yyyiii...@yahoo.com>:

> news.gmane.io
> news.uni-stuttgart.de
> news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

All of them don't allow posting without login.

[Sn!pe]

False, I do not frog. If you believe otherwise, show proof.

[mixed nuts]

On 4/13/2023 05:14, Sn!pe wrote:
> mixed nuts <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2023 20:34, Sn!pe wrote:
>>> mixed nuts <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/2023 18:49, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>> Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote:
>>>>>> Marco Moock had the audacity to say the following:
>>>>>>> Am 11.04.2023 um 17:41:29 Uhr schrieb badgolferman:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What other privacy focused free news servers offer free registration
>>>>>>>> with no username or password required, other than
>>>>>>>> paganini.bofh.team:119 today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can use eternal-septemberg, they don't verify your name, you can
>>>>>>> enter Donald Duck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Donald Duck actually existed, Paul probably would enter him.
>>>>>
>>>>> ITYF that all you need to register at E-S is a working email to
>>>>> confirm your bona fides, your choice of account name and then
>>>>> whatever From: name you like. Excessive morphing or other bad
>>>>> behaviour will get you TOSsed. I imagine that Ray would take
>>>>> precautions against people registering multiple accounts.
>>>>
>>>> Frogging from multiple accounts seems OK.
>>>
>>> [raised eyebrow] I don't know about that.
>>
>> I, personally, have been frogged in front of the whole world, including
>> you, AND RAY. Nothing was done to stop it.
>
> False, I do not frog. If you believe otherwise, show proof.

You frog yourself, sir.

--
Grizzly H.

[Sn!pe]

Such nonsense. There seems little point in persevering with this.

[mixed nuts]

yay

--
Grizzly H.

[badgolferman]

The Clatch <won...@joe.net> wrote:

> Paganini always works for me, never miss a post.

Rest assured I appreciate Ivo's largesse so I'm not complaining at all.
I'm just trying to find a more reliable no-registration server. That's all.

I'm sure Ivo implements the random filters for good reasons which I do not
question as I don't envy anyone who is running a no-registration service.

The only reason we're diving into details is you people don't believe me.
Since you don't believe me, that means you don't know what I know.

You will know what I know of you run a simple multiple-post test, such as
1. Send a message to three newsgroups.
2. Send another a few minutes later.
3. And another... and another...

Depending on variables which are likely not random, but which appear random
to me (for example, the time between sending), paganini will soon fail.

Worse, send a long message, perhaps that contains links to web sites.
That will even more randomly fail with various error messages
(usually badword or domain are the most common but other messages happen).

The way I know they're random is the SAME message works if you switch
things up a bit, which you have to experiment with, so you can't take the
error at face value (it's probably some kind of check that doesn't happen
each time but which only happens with frequent posters or something like
that).

It's not like aioe's 25/day hard limit as it's much more random than that.
If you only post with paganini once or twice a day, you won't notice this.

Anyway, I'm not complaining. I will THANK Ivo for letting me use his
server. Same with Steve. Same with Wolfgang. Or Jesse. I thank them all.

I just seek a no-registration server without the random errors that both
mixmin and paganini have been experiencing, of late, that's all.

It should be a perfectly on topic question for this specific newsgroup
of experts who have been using free news servers for many years, right?

[Sn!pe]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> You will know what I know of you run a simple multiple-post test, such as
> 1. Send a message to three newsgroups.
> 2. Send another a few minutes later.
> 3. And another... and another...

[...]

Why would any responsible poster want to do that?
Crossposting to three groups is borderline spamming.

Does it make a difference if you send your crossposts
with a Followup-To: a single group?

[William Stickers]

FFS, just register at one of the servers that requires a
valid email for registration with a throwaway email
account. The email I'm using here is valid, but I rarely
check it. Or just carry on moaning.

[badgolferman]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:

>> news.gmane.io
>> news.uni-stuttgart.de
>> news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
>
> All of them don't allow posting without login.

Thank you for keeping the thread on topic, as I feel this is a perfectly
reasonable question to ask of a group whose charter is free news servers.

Having used gmane in the past, I'm not sure it belongs in that list as I
don't know how to characterize what it is, but it was _different_ then.

Looking at my log files, the supposedly free no registration free news
servers I've tried in the past are in this list (culled from my logs).
206.58.152.195:119
78.192.0.157:119
free.xsusenet.com:119
gail.ripco.com:119
hufu.ki.iif.hu:119
killfile.org:119
maddog.stanford.edu:119
news.ausics.net:119
news.cn99.com:119
news.freedyn.de:119
news.grc.com:119
news.novabbs.org:119
news.samoylyk.net:119
news.skz.or.jp:119
news.uni-stuttgart.de:119
news.wieslauf.de:119
news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de:119
news2.neva.ru:119
post.usenet.com:119
pubnews.gradwell.net:119
remote5bge0.ripco.com:119
test.news.mediaways:119
textnews.news.cambrium.nl:119
tor-nn1-ca.netcom.ca:119
tulanet.com:119
www.an.cc.mn.us:119

I haven't tried any of them recently, but their presence in my logs
indicates that they failed, because I would remember if they worked.

Please understand I am not complaining at all about mixmin & paganini.
I'm just seeking a no-registration privacy server that's less random.

I want to make this point clear that I very much appreciate Ivo's largesse,
just as I appreciate use of Steve's server, and Paolo's wonderful support.

I very much appreciate that Alex used to let us post without registration
using his free server, but even he has moved to registration for posting.

I appreciate Wolfgang's & Daniel's/Monica's easy-registration process, just
as I appreciate Jesse's & Alexander's email-request registration process.

I don't mind that Alexander and Netfront put the IP address in the header
either, as privacy can still be maintained as long as you're aware of that.

I'm just trying to find a more reliable no-registration server. That's all.

I'm sure Ivo implements the random filters for good reasons which I do not
question as I don't envy anyone who is running a no-registration service.

The only reason we're diving into details is you people don't believe me.
Since you don't believe me, that means you don't know what I know.

Instead of us wasting time with you challenging me to prove that I know
what I know, I would prefer we invest our time looking for free news
servers which either don't require prior registration (better), or which at
least publish the registration details (which dizum used to, for example).

In short, I seek a no-registration server without random errors that both
mixmin & paganini have been experiencing of late, that's all I ask for.

[William Stickers]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
[...]
>
> Don't deflect, seamus

Not everyone is Derbyshire, you blithering idiot.

[Sn!pe]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> Having used gmane in the past, I'm not sure it belongs in that list as I
> don't know how to characterize what it is, but it was _different_ then.

[...]

It's a mailing list <-> newsgroups interface; not Usenet at all.

[Sn!pe]

I think 'Seamus' is a generic epithet, Bill. The poster in question
displays one or more attributes of the Pembrokinese Poseur.

[badgolferman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

> FFS, just register at one of the servers that requires a
> valid email for registration with a throwaway email
> account. The email I'm using here is valid, but I rarely
> check it. Or just carry on moaning.

Will you please stop misunderstanding everything said in this thread.
Please.

Please stop blurting out the first thing that comes to your head.
Please read the stated problem set. And read it again. And again.

The question is not a complaint. Learn the difference please.
The question is what free no-registration news servers do you know of?

That's the question.
It's a perfectly appropriate question for this newsgroup.

Yet, I think only a single person understood the question so far.
And that person isn't you, I'm sorry to say.

It's very simple but you seem to not know anything about news services.
If all you can think of is one kind of service, then you can't help.

You can't help anyone, let alone yourself if you can't understand that I'm
not complaining - I'm simply asking for a more reliable no-registration
server.

You not understanding that simple question is not "moaning" on my part.
It's just you proving you know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand.

Stop that.
It's demeaning for me to have to chastise you for not understanding.

The concept of asking a question should be simpler than you make it.

I'm sorry for having to repeat what you people don't seem to comprehend
which is that there are two types of free news servers.

Those that require registration. And those that don't.
For those that don't, there are two types of no-registration free servers.
Those that have login credentials. And those that don't.

It's demeaning to me to have to explain something that simple to you.

It seems odd that you post to this newsgroup even though you don't
understand the difference between a no-registration news server and a
registration-required news server. Or what a simple question entails.

It's tiring that I must repeat to people like you that there are free news
servers which require registration, such as those from Wolfgang (aka Ray) &
Jesse & Alex & Sabine & Steen & Benjamin & so many other kind people.

Then there are no-registration news servers which don't require login
credentials such as those from Paolo & Steve & Ivo & others who are even
kinder since they provide their servers without need for registration.

I'm well aware that, over time, albasini, aoio, dizum, netfront and others
have shuttered their no-registration service, probably mostly due to
rampant abuse, but I can't do anything about those people who abuse what is
a wonderful service for the rest of us who enjoy no-registration services.

I'm really tired of having to laboriously explain again and again what is,
at least to me, a very simple and quite appropriate question of this ng.

What free no-registration news servers do you know of that I don't?

[William Stickers]

Sn!pe wrote:
>
> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> > Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > Don't deflect, seamus
> >
> > Not everyone is Derbyshire, you blithering idiot.
>
> I think 'Seamus' is a generic epithet, Bill.

Kerman once ID'd me as Seamus. He calls a lot of posters
that.

> The poster in question
> displays one or more attributes of the Pembrokinese Poseur.

In so far as he seems to be another aspie arsehole, yeah.
He has none of the tells that derbyshire has, and is in
my opinion far more likely to be that other autistic
torll, Arlen.

[William Stickers]

There aren't any others.
So you can help yourself and do as I suggested, or suck
it up.

[badgolferman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

> There aren't any others.

That may be the case knowing that I'm asking here expecting (or at least
hoping, but I was certainly expecting) to find people who know more than I
do about a topic of free news servers (particularly no-registration ones).

I ask here because I know that I don't know much about free news servers.
I know just enough to use them and that's about all that I know.

So I was expecting people on this newsgroup to know a lot more than I do.
You're not one of them, unfortunately for both you & for me in particular.

I can't reasonably take _any answer from you as correct_ given you didn't
understand the question until this very moment - which strikes you out.

People like you who take a dozen posts to understand a simple question are
never going to be the kind of people who can answer any question, let alone
a difficult question. Isn't that correct? So anything you say, is moot.

Because it took you this long to understand what was indeed, very simple.

(If you wonder why I harp on this, I'm trying to make the point that you
saying there aren't any is completely meaningless in light of your
thickness in understanding the question so you can't help me or anyone.)

For the rest of the experienced free news server users, the question is

[William Stickers]

I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now. As it happens I
have just remembered another open news server that you
haven't mentioned yet, but because of your attitude I
can't arsed to tell you what it is. HTH.

[William Stickers]

William Stickers wrote:
>
> badgolferman wrote:
[...]

> > Because it took you this long to understand what was indeed, very simple.
> >
> > (If you wonder why I harp on this, I'm trying to make the point that you
> > saying there aren't any is completely meaningless in light of your
> > thickness in understanding the question so you can't help me or anyone.)
> >
> > For the rest of the experienced free news server users, the question is
> > What free no-registration news servers do you know of that I don't?
>
> I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
> I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
> instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now. As it happens I
> have just remembered another open news server that you
> haven't mentioned yet, but because of your attitude I
> can't arsed to tell you what it is. HTH.

Ah, I just tried posting through it and got this, "441
You are not allowed to post", so it looks like it is no
longer open. Pity, coz I still wouldn't have told you
what it was.

[Adam H. Kerman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>Sn!pe wrote:
>>
>> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > >
>> > > Don't deflect, seamus
>> >
>> > Not everyone is Derbyshire, you blithering idiot.
>>
>> I think 'Seamus' is a generic epithet, Bill.
>
>Kerman once ID'd me as Seamus. He calls a lot of posters
>that.

You appear to have made a full recovery.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Free Speech <yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>. . .

>Here's a few for your collection.

>news.ripco.com

Ripco is no more since the death of Bruce Esquibel a few months back
without a business succession plan.

>news.gmane.io

I thought this was a News gateway to mailing lists, not a general
News server.

>news.uni-stuttgart.de
>news2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

[badgolferman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

> I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
> I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
> instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now.

It's classic for people like you to claim, after it took you ten posts to
understand what was, after all, a simple question - that you understood it.

All I can say is that if you understood the question, you showed zero
comprehension of that fact until about ten times it was explained to you.

> As it happens I
> have just remembered another open news server that you
> haven't mentioned yet, but because of your attitude I
> can't arsed to tell you what it is. HTH.

Like I said, if it took you this long to understand what was, after all, a
very simple question, it's likely impossible that you know more than I do.

And, as I said very clearly - I don't know much.
So that doesn't say much about your threat above not to help everyone out.

If I did know more than everyone here combined, I wouldn't have asked the
question of the people on this newsgroup - who are presumed to know more
than I do about the existence of no-registration free news servers.

By asking this question here, on a.f.n, I'm hoping to find someone who
knows more than I do about the existence of no-registration free servers.

[badgolferman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

> Ah, I just tried posting through it and got this, "441
> You are not allowed to post", so it looks like it is no
> longer open. Pity, coz I still wouldn't have told you
> what it was.

As I said, if it took you this long to figure out the question, when the
question wasn't a difficult question to understand (it was difficult to
answer, but not hard to understand) that alone means there isn't much you
can ever do to help anyone here, even as I openly say I don't know much.

With that in mind, I suspect the news server you were trying may be this:
news.dizum.net:119

Which used to work both for posting and reading without needing credentials
but now it only works for reading and not for posting, without credentials.

What would be nice is to find someone who knows more than I do about
posting to free news servers because I will openly say I don't know much.

If I can't find a free no-registration news server that is reliable, then I
will need to begin looking at free reliable news servers which require
registration (but I was hoping not to have to resort to that level).

I listed in another thread the "reputed" free news servers, none of which
worked for me, where I can provide a specific example of this touted server
news.novabbs.org:119
But even with numerous emails to the administrator, it still won't work.

Does news.novabbs.org:119 work for you (with registration, of course)?
Because it failed every time I tried it (with registration, of course).

[Adam H. Kerman]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

>>I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
>>I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
>>instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now.

>It's classic for people like you to claim, after it took you ten posts to
>understand what was, after all, a simple question - that you understood it.

Fuck off seamus.

The paranoia and the petty demands and feigning offense when the
pettiness is not taken seriously is absolutely seamus-like behavior.

>. . .

[Richmond]

badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> writes:

> news.grc.com:119

This is a standalone server, it doesn't give any access to usenet.

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 13/04/2023 15:35, badgolferman wrote:

I'm just seeking a no-registration privacy server that's less random.

Why are you so obsessed with privacy? For trolling on these newsgroups, privacy should be the last thing to consider.

You will be lucky to get long term use of any free servers because people running them are mostly hobbyists and enthusiasts and their interest wanes after 3 months!

To run a server, you need 24/7 power supply and dictator Putin has thrown in a spanner in this. People don't have money to throw away for their own hobby, let alone to serve trolls on these newsgroups.

You need to take out a paid subscription to continue what you are currently doing.

Arrest

Dictator Putin

We Stand

With Ukraine

Stop Putin

Ukraine Under Attack

--
https://contact.mainsite.tk

[William Stickers]

badgolferman wrote:
>
> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> > I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
> > I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
> > instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now.
>
> It's classic for people like you to claim, after it took you ten posts to
> understand what was, after all, a simple question - that you understood it.

Furrfu. Have it your way, you aspie nitwit. I don't have the patience to put up with your bollocks.
Try the iphone froups with your bullshit. Oh, hang on... you already are

> All I can say is that if you understood the question, you showed zero
> comprehension of that fact until about ten times it was explained to you.
>
> > As it happens I
> > have just remembered another open news server that you
> > haven't mentioned yet, but because of your attitude I
> > can't arsed to tell you what it is. HTH.
>
> Like I said, if it took you this long to understand what was, after all, a
> very simple question, it's likely impossible that you know more than I do.
>
> And, as I said very clearly - I don't know much.
> So that doesn't say much about your threat above not to help everyone out.
>
> If I did know more than everyone here combined, I wouldn't have asked the
> question of the people on this newsgroup - who are presumed to know more
> than I do about the existence of no-registration free news servers.
>
> By asking this question here, on a.f.n, I'm hoping to find someone who
> knows more than I do about the existence of no-registration free servers.

If there were any more, someone would have said and no one has, you moron.

[William Stickers]

badgolferman wrote:
>
> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> > Ah, I just tried posting through it and got this, "441
> > You are not allowed to post", so it looks like it is no
> > longer open. Pity, coz I still wouldn't have told you
> > what it was.
>
> As I said, if it took you this long to figure out the question, when the
> question wasn't a difficult question to understand (it was difficult to
> answer, but not hard to understand) that alone means there isn't much you
> can ever do to help anyone here, even as I openly say I don't know much.

Yeah, sure. I can't comprehend a simple question because you say so.

> With that in mind, I suspect the news server you were trying may be this:
> news.dizum.net:119

No. It was news.cyber23.de. Closed for posting now so I don't mind telling you it.
If I should stumble across another you'll be the last to know.

[William Stickers]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> >>I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
> >>I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
> >>instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now.
>
> >It's classic for people like you to claim, after it took you ten posts to
> >understand what was, after all, a simple question - that you understood it.
>

> Fuck off Arlen.

FTFY.

> The paranoia and the petty demands and feigning offense when the
> pettiness is not taken seriously is absolutely seamus-like behavior.

Sure it has asperger's.
Every nitpicking jerk from alt.config isn't called Kerman.

[Adam H. Kerman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:

>>>>I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
>>>>I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
>>>>instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now.

>>>It's classic for people like you to claim, after it took you ten posts to
>>>understand what was, after all, a simple question - that you understood it.

>>Fuck off Arlen.

>FTFY.

Fuck off, seamus

>>The paranoia and the petty demands and feigning offense when the
>>pettiness is not taken seriously is absolutely seamus-like behavior.

>Sure it has asperger's.

I didn't know you were licensed to make a medical diagnosis on Usenet.

>Every nitpicking jerk from alt.config isn't called Kerman.

What useless newsgroup did you try to start that no one blowing sunshine
up your ass in alt.config prevented you from finding an audience? How
many sockpuppets ago was that?

See if you can hold that grudge for another 20 years.

[William Stickers]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
> >Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >>badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>I knew what you were asking. You asked it several times.
> >>>>I chose to tell you what you could do to help yourself
> >>>>instead and I wish I hadn't bothered now.
>
> >>>It's classic for people like you to claim, after it took you ten posts to
> >>>understand what was, after all, a simple question - that you understood it.
>
> >>Fuck off Arlen.
>
> >FTFY.
>
> Fuck off, seamus

No, you fuck off, seamus.

> >>The paranoia and the petty demands and feigning offense when the
> >>pettiness is not taken seriously is absolutely seamus-like behavior.
>
> >Sure it has asperger's.
>
> I didn't know you were licensed to make a medical diagnosis on Usenet.

The twat has said himself that he is an aspie. No diagnosis needed from me.

> >Every nitpicking jerk from alt.config isn't called Kerman.
>
> What useless newsgroup did you try to start that no one blowing sunshine
> up your ass in alt.config prevented you from finding an audience?

I've forgotten how many alt* froups I've newgrouped, but I know I never discussed them in
alt.config or sought anyone's approval in alt.config. The only time I've done the discussion thang
is when I was the proponent for a new local froup in uk*, which after a civil discussion was
approved and the cmsg newgroup sent.

> How
> many sockpuppets ago was that?
>
> See if you can hold that grudge for another 20 years.

As I never partook in any discussion in alt.config I couldn't care less about your antics in there
which was just pissing in the wind. New group cmsgs were sent anyway.
You being a fucking arsehole is what grates with me, so if you piss me off, I'll let you know.

[Sn!pe]

Snoopy <therea...@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com> spurted out the following:

[...]

> > ITYF that all you need to register at E-S is a working email to
> > confirm your bona fides, your choice of account name and then
> > whatever From: name and address you like. Excessive morphing
> > or other bad behaviour will get you TOSsed. I imagine that Ray
> >would take precautions against people registering multiple accounts.
> >
>
> You can use a temporary email to register the ES account.
>

[hypothetical]

Given that the server sees the poster's IP it would be trivial
to check for multiple accounts using the same IP. Even if you
use a VPN and change IP between switching posting accounts,
it would only take one slip and use the same IP for two accounts
to ring an alarm bell.

[Sn!pe]

> vpn --> tor --> nntp
>
> Or vpn --> tor --> Open Socks5 --> nntp
>

Sure, but only a career t0rll would go to those lengths.
Besides, my "only one slip" comment would still apply.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:41:01 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>>Sn!pe wrote:
>>>
>>> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> > [...]
>>> > >
>>> > > Don't deflect, seamus
>>> >
>>> > Not everyone is Derbyshire, you blithering idiot.
>>>
>>> I think 'Seamus' is a generic epithet, Bill.
>>
>>Kerman once ID'd me as Seamus. He calls a lot of posters
>>that.

There's a clinical term for that: Fregoli Delusion.

And badgolferman, your confusion is understandable. For some odd reason
they named this kook newsgroup "alt.free.newsservers" so you can be
forgiven for thinking it was a group for discussing free newsservers,
when it's actually part of an online lunatic asylum comprising this
group, alt.checkmate, and, of course, alt.usenet.kooks.

There's a lot more mis-named newsgroups. One of the most prominent
conservative politics newsgroups somehow got named "rec.arts.tv", for
example, rather than the much more precise "alt.fan.fox-and-friends".

I blame Comcast.

Now if you'll excuse me it's time for me to prepare Kerman's daily
thorazine injection and then do a bed check.

<snicker>

--
FNVWe Nadegda

"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with
you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
Checkmate admits that, for all intents and purposes, he carries a teddy
bear in public: <d6cnes.k...@news.alt.net>

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:44:14 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

> Snoopy <therea...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com> spurted out the following:
>> > Snoopy <therea...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com> spurted out the following:
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> > ITYF that all you need to register at E-S is a working email to
>> >> > confirm your bona fides, your choice of account name and then
>> >> > whatever From: name and address you like. Excessive morphing
>> >> > or other bad behaviour will get you TOSsed. I imagine that Ray
>> >> >would take precautions against people registering multiple accounts.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> You can use a temporary email to register the ES account.
>> >>
>> >
>> > [hypothetical]
>> >
>> > Given that the server sees the poster's IP it would be trivial
>> > to check for multiple accounts using the same IP. Even if you
>> > use a VPN and change IP between switching posting accounts,
>> > it would only take one slip and use the same IP for two accounts
>> > to ring an alarm bell.

You sound like you're speaking from personal experience.

<snicker>

>> vpn --> tor --> nntp
>>
>> Or vpn --> tor --> Open Socks5 --> nntp
>
> Sure, but only a career t0rll would go to those lengths.

You would know.

[Marco Moock]

Am 13.04.2023 schrieb The Clatch <won...@joe.net>:

> Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote in
> news:u171cf$18kd$2...@dont-email.me:
>
> > Am 12.04.2023 um 15:43:06 Uhr schrieb badgolferman:
> >
> >> Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> What other privacy focused free news servers offer free
> >> >> registration with no username or password required, other than
> >> >> paganini.bofh.team:119 today?
> >> >
> >> > You can use eternal-septemberg, they don't verify your name, you
> >> > can enter Donald Duck.
> >>
> >> It's surprising that you didn't understand the question since you
> >> are supposed to be knowledgeable in nntp server administration
> >> tasks.
> >
> > You asked impossible things. Either it allows posting without
> > registration or it needs registration, that is maybe free.
> >
> > Servers that don't need login and allow posting are most of the time
> > used for posting spam and troll messages. Everybody hates them and
> > so only a small amount of people operate such servers.
>
> That's simply not true. Free servers are appreciated and respected.
> There are always a few turds who smell up a public communication
> resource
> - unless it's a sewer by design, like Twitter for example.

In the German de.* hierarchy, many trolls from aioe and mixmin came.
Many users now automatically delete posts from mixmin. aioe is dead and
no troll can abuse it anymore.

[Marco Moock]

Am 13.04.2023 schrieb badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com>:

> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> > FFS, just register at one of the servers that requires a
> > valid email for registration with a throwaway email
> > account. The email I'm using here is valid, but I rarely
> > check it. Or just carry on moaning.

> The question is what free no-registration news servers do you know of?

I also know

news.tlt.ru
news.tambov.ru

> Then there are no-registration news servers which don't require login
> credentials such as those from Paolo & Steve & Ivo & others who are
> even kinder since they provide their servers without need for
> registration.

They aren't kind - they are nasty for all people because the operate
open gateways that are being abused.

[Marco Moock]

Am 13.04.2023 schrieb badgolferman <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com>:

> Does news.novabbs.org:119 work for you (with registration, of course)?
> Because it failed every time I tried it (with registration, of
> course).

Yes, it worked.
The admin is also active in the rocksolid.* hierarchy, so ask there if
it is a general problem.

[Marco Moock]

Am 13.04.2023 schrieb William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com>:

> No. It was news.cyber23.de. Closed for posting now so I don't mind
> telling you it.

Because people abused it.

[William Stickers]

Obviously and I agree with you that a lot of abuse comes
from open servers.

[Richmond]

Marco Moock <mo...@posteo.de> writes:

>> Then there are no-registration news servers which don't require login
>> credentials such as those from Paolo & Steve & Ivo & others who are
>> even kinder since they provide their servers without need for
>> registration.
>
> They aren't kind - they are nasty for all people because the operate
> open gateways that are being abused.

I disagree. The internet is abused but that doesn't mean the internet is
nasty.

[Marco Moock]

Operators of servers who don't care that their machine is being abused
are the nasty people.

[Richmond]

How do you know they don't care? Maybe they don't think that there is anything
they can do about it. There is also abuse on other platforms where you
do have to register.

[Sn!pe]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

> <snicker>

Go away, Paul. [fu2: bit-bucket]

[Marco Moock]

Check the attack on de.test the last days via mixmin. This is one of
the examples Chris Crooks gives a fuck about what comes
out of his spam server mixmin.

[Richmond]

OK but that problem could be solved without registration by limiting the
number of posts per minute.

[Adam H. Kerman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>>. . .

>>What useless newsgroup did you try to start that no one blowing sunshine
>>up your ass in alt.config prevented you from finding an audience?

>I've forgotten how many alt* froups I've newgrouped,

Any idiot can send a newgroup message. Were any of these newgroup
messages sent because there was an audience for the proposed newsgroup,
or did you just add to the massive list of failed newsgroups?

>but I know I never discussed them in alt.config or sought anyone's
>approval in alt.config.

Gee, that's nice, 'cuz there is no approval to seek in alt.config. No
one ever claimed otherwise except idiots like you who lie about the
nature of discussion that takes place.

alt.config discussed proposals for newsgroups and gives guidance to a
proponent in how to find an audience. Most proponents don't want to hear
that no audience exists for their proposed newsgroup unless and until
the find people already disucssing the topic and figure out if they are
truly motivated to discuss the topic in a new group.

>The only time I've done the discussion thang is when I was the proponent
>for a new local froup in uk*, which after a civil discussion was approved
>and the cmsg newgroup sent.

How nice that you are civil in other hierarchies. It's incivil to send
newgroup messages to deliberately start spamtraps, which it sure sounds
like you've done.

>>How many sockpuppets ago was that?

>>See if you can hold that grudge for another 20 years.

>As I never partook in any discussion in alt.config I couldn't care less about your antics in there
>which was just pissing in the wind. New group cmsgs were sent anyway.
>You being a fucking arsehole is what grates with me, so if you piss me
>off, I'll let you know.

Clearly you just lied about not caring less. You're the one who raised
this utter irrelevancy. You're upset. It gnaws upon you. You really need
to get over it.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Snoopy <therea...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:57:43 +0100, Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com> spurted

>out the following:
>> Snoopy <therea...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com> spurted out the following:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> > ITYF that all you need to register at E-S is a working email to
>>> > confirm your bona fides, your choice of account name and then
>>> > whatever From: name and address you like. Excessive morphing
>>> > or other bad behaviour will get you TOSsed. I imagine that Ray
>>> >would take precautions against people registering multiple accounts.
>>> >
>>>
>>> You can use a temporary email to register the ES account.
>>>
>>
>> [hypothetical]
>>
>> Given that the server sees the poster's IP it would be trivial
>> to check for multiple accounts using the same IP. Even if you
>> use a VPN and change IP between switching posting accounts,
>> it would only take one slip and use the same IP for two accounts
>> to ring an alarm bell.
>>
>

>vpn --> tor --> nntp
>
>Or vpn --> tor --> Open Socks5 --> nntp

You skipped the method to disguise the same old idiocy. It's not like
it's not obvious who posted what. There can be no privacy.

[socialite]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 08:58:59 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

>> The question is what free no-registration news servers do you know of?
>
> I also know
>
> news.tlt.ru
> news.tambov.ru

I don't know how to test posting to these two newsgroups
(other than to set them to port 119 in my news reader).

Posting to a.f.n using news.tambov.ru:119 (with no username or password set).
Status = failed

Are these the only newsgroups on that server?
control Various control messages (no posting).
control.cancel Cancel messages (no posting).
control.checkgroups Hierarchy check control messages (no posting).
control.newgroup Newsgroup creation control messages (no posting).
control.rmgroup Newsgroup removal control messages (no posting).
free.go.woke.go.broke Need you ask?
free.lyin.biden When Biden's lips are moving.
junk Unfiled articles (no posting).
tambov.test Local test newsgroup.

Posting to a,f.n using news.tlt.ru:119 (with no username or password set).
Status = failed

Are these the only newsgroups on that server?
alt.comp.os.windows-11 For all things related to Microsoft Windows version 11.
alt.russian.z1 Russians abroad talk
control Various control messages (no posting).
control.cancel Cancel messages (no posting).
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What's a better test that I can run from the command line?

[socialite]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 11:33:17 +0100, Richmond wrote:

>> Check the attack on de.test the last days via mixmin. This is one of
>> the examples Chris Crooks gives a fuck about what comes
>> out of his spam server mixmin.
>
> OK but that problem could be solved without registration by limiting the
> number of posts per minute.

Marco's position is, in my humble opinion, unreasonably Draconian.
Many people believe others have no rights and they want to take them away.

Steve Crook believes in rights and one of those rights is personal privacy.

Marco doesn't want people to have personal privacy because he feels that
some people abuse that personal privacy right - and Marco is correct.

But it's the wrong approach, in my humble opinion, to restrict people's
rights to privacy just because "some" people abuse those rights to spam.

You don't stop spam by requiring everyone to register an email, do you?

IMHO, people can (and will) abuse news servers with or without registration
being required so to focus on registration is the wrong focus for abuse.

It's exactly like saying that by requiring registration for email, abuse
will be stopped - because everyone knows that isn't even close to accurate.

It's almost like saying if you want to stop drug abuse, you have to stop
the growing of the drugs - which - while it's what countries attempt,
doesn't seem to be working all that well - because it's not the growth of
the drug plant which is _causing_ the abuse in the first place.

If it's not the cause - then breaking it will never be the solution.

Specifically, if lack of registration is not the cause of the abuse, then
it's small minded to think breaking that will ever be a solution. It won't.

Abuse is caused by abusers. Not server administrators. (At least we hope.)

Having made the point that lack of registration isn't the cause of abuse
so requiring registration will never stop abuse, I would think it's harder
for the server admin to contain abuse without being able to cancel
registration.

So how do they stop abuse?
I don't know.

I suspect admins may limit the number or frequency of posts per "from"
line, and/or they may limit the post from the sender's IP address perhaps.

Certainly many admits limit crossposting and double posting, don't they?
I'm sure they have badword filters too. And bad domains in the message.

And I have seen some evidence admins temporarily or permanently block
problematic newsgroups which have been taken over by abuse, don't they?

[William Stickers]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
> >Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> >>>. . .
>
> >>What useless newsgroup did you try to start that no one blowing sunshine
> >>up your ass in alt.config prevented you from finding an audience?
>
> >I've forgotten how many alt* froups I've newgrouped,
>
> Any idiot can send a newgroup message. Were any of these newgroup
> messages sent because there was an audience for the proposed newsgroup,
> or did you just add to the massive list of failed newsgroups?

At the time they were used.

> >but I know I never discussed them in alt.config or sought anyone's
> >approval in alt.config.
>
> Gee, that's nice, 'cuz there is no approval to seek in alt.config. No
> one ever claimed otherwise except idiots like you who lie about the
> nature of discussion that takes place.

I said, Seamus, that I'd never discussed them in
alt.config or sought anyone's approval there. That isn't
a lie. Try spinning it another way.

> alt.config discussed proposals for newsgroups and gives guidance to a
> proponent in how to find an audience. Most proponents don't want to hear
> that no audience exists for their proposed newsgroup unless and until
> the find people already disucssing the topic and figure out if they are
> truly motivated to discuss the topic in a new group.

And so fucking what? It all amounts to nothing.

> >The only time I've done the discussion thang is when I was the proponent
> >for a new local froup in uk*, which after a civil discussion was approved
> >and the cmsg newgroup sent.
>
> How nice that you are civil in other hierarchies.

The alt* hierarchy isn't the uk* hierarchy. The uk*
hierarchy is managed. Only the uk control can send cmsgs
there. The alt* hierarchy is the wild west and anyone
could do as they wanted.

> It's incivil to send
> newgroup messages to deliberately start spamtraps, which it sure sounds
> like you've done.

Those newsgroups were used at the time. Now they are
empty or full of spam. alt.config is mostly spam. The
newsgroup I proposed in uk.local* has been rmgrouped, as
has most of the froups in uk.local*. Usenet is dying, you
fucking muppet. Do try and keep up.

> >>How many sockpuppets ago was that?
>
> >>See if you can hold that grudge for another 20 years.
>
> >As I never partook in any discussion in alt.config I couldn't care less about your antics in there
> >which was just pissing in the wind. New group cmsgs were sent anyway.
> >You being a fucking arsehole is what grates with me, so if you piss me
> >off, I'll let you know.
>
> Clearly you just lied about not caring less. You're the one who raised
> this utter irrelevancy.

I pointed out to you that every nitpicking jerk in
alt.config isn't called Kerman for illustrative purposes.
Just like every autistic fuckwit isn't seamus, Seamus.

[William Stickers]

Fuck off, Seamus.

[Seamus Coleman]

On 14/04/2023 16:48, William Stickers wrote:
> Fuck off, Seamus.

I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO YOU. IF YOU DON'T LIKE KERMAN THEN CONTACT
HIM BY EMAIL ON "Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com>" AND TELL HIM
TO F/O. HE DESERVES IT MORE THAN ME!!!!. I THINK HE USES HIS REAL EMAIL.

[Adam H. Kerman]

William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>>>>. . .

>>>>What useless newsgroup did you try to start that no one blowing sunshine
>>>>up your ass in alt.config prevented you from finding an audience?

>>>I've forgotten how many alt* froups I've newgrouped,

>>Any idiot can send a newgroup message. Were any of these newgroup
>>messages sent because there was an audience for the proposed newsgroup,
>>or did you just add to the massive list of failed newsgroups?

>At the time they were used.

No audience except right at the beginning.

You have not persuaded me that you weren't useless as a proponent. You
didn't do the work, gave up when no audience magically appeared, then
sent newgroup messages for other useless newsgroups. Lather, rinse,
repeat

There's no reason to read any more.

>>>. . .

[William Stickers]

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
> >Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >>William Stickers <bill.s...@innocent.com> wrote:
> >>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> >>>>>. . .
>
> >>>>What useless newsgroup did you try to start that no one blowing sunshine
> >>>>up your ass in alt.config prevented you from finding an audience?
>
> >>>I've forgotten how many alt* froups I've newgrouped,
>
> >>Any idiot can send a newgroup message. Were any of these newgroup
> >>messages sent because there was an audience for the proposed newsgroup,
> >>or did you just add to the massive list of failed newsgroups?
>
> >At the time they were used.
>
> No audience except right at the beginning.
>
> You have not persuaded me that you weren't useless as a proponent. You
> didn't do the work, gave up when no audience magically appeared, then
> sent newgroup messages for other useless newsgroups. Lather, rinse,
> repeat

Nice snippage. Well done.

> There's no reason to read any more.

Good. Fuck off.

[William Stickers]

Fuck off, Seamus.

[SWD]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 16:46:39 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

> Just like every autistic fuckwit isn't seamus, Seamus.

Ableism is bad, mmkay?

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Looks like Russia is pushing far-right propaganda again.

<sigh>

[William Stickers]

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