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Eric Gisse promotes my web·site ( www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ).

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Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:09:43 PM1/3/10
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You ( Eric Gisse, “would be” net·cop ) imagined:
“ Relf's site is still down, too. ”.

No, YOU LOST and FastMail.FM* won. ( *: running nginx on Linux )

Thanks for the promotion; I'd return the favor but...
you don't have a web·site... LOSER !

WORSE, you can't read { much less (re)POST }:
“ Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=UTF-8 ”

Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=UTF-8

Robb

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:28:31 PM1/3/10
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Jeff Relf wrote: >? >You ( Eric Gisse, �would be� net�cop ) imagined: >� Relf's site is still down, too. �. > >No, YOU LOST and FastMail.FM* won. ( *: running nginx on Linux ) > >Thanks for the promotion; I'd return the favor but... >you don't have a web�site... LOSER !

""?????!????? you can't read.""

>You ( Eric Gisse, �would be� net�cop ) imagined: � Relf's site is still down, too. �. No, YOU LOST and FastMail.FM* won. ( *: running nginx on Linux ) Thanks for the promotion; I'd return the favor but... you don't have a web�site... LOSER ! WORSE, you can't read { much less (re)POST }: � Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=UTF-8 � Way off topic!! ;) -- Robb | Shared Secrets Usenet

Gregory Hall

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:49:45 PM1/3/10
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<Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM> wrote in message
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> You ( Eric Gisse, "would be" net�cop ) imagined:
> " Relf's site is still down, too. ".
>
> No, YOU LOST and FastMail.FM* won. ( *: running nginx on Linux )
>
> Thanks for the promotion; I'd return the favor but...
> you don't have a web�site... LOSER !
>
> WORSE, you can't read { much less (re)POST }:
> " Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=UTF-8 "
>
>

Jeff, you undoubtedly have the oddest web site I've ever seen in the
present. You might as well be living back in the 80's when the best people
could do was run a Radio Shack TRS80.


--
Gregory Hall


Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:06:33 PM1/3/10
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My website* is like a walk in the park, not a moon·shot.
Do we give up walking now that we have rockets ? no.
*: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM

Eternal·Sep* users can't read my HTML posts**;
ya got to give me that, no ?
*: www.Eternal-September.ORG
**: www.google.com/group/alt.free.newsservers/msg/cd034697302cb631

Gregory Hall

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:11:51 PM1/3/10
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<Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM> wrote in message
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>
> My website* is like a walk in the park, not a moon�shot.
> Do we give up walking now that we have rockets ? no.
> *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM


I agree, your website is like a walk in Jurassic Park.

---
Gregory Hall


General Disaster

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:21:58 PM1/3/10
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No one wants to read *any* of yer posts, HTML or otherwise.

Gregory Hall

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:24:06 PM1/3/10
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"General Disaster" <General_...@pentagon.mil> wrote in message
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> No one wants to read *any* of yer posts, HTML or otherwise.


Wrong! I enjoy reading his posts.

--
Gregory Hall

eric gisse

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:25:27 PM1/3/10
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Gregory Hall wrote:

> <Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM> wrote in message
> news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2010_Jan3.0.13pm.VX...
>> You ( Eric Gisse, "would be" net�cop ) imagined:
>> " Relf's site is still down, too. ".
>>
>> No, YOU LOST and FastMail.FM* won. ( *: running nginx on Linux )

Looks like it is still down, Relf.

As a curiosity, how much free bandwidth has fastmail given you? I'm guessing
north of 50 gigs.

[...]

General Disaster

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:29:18 PM1/3/10
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Okay... no one *with any brains* or who *isn't a sock puppet* wants to
read *any* of his posts, HTML or otherwise.

Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:06:49 PM1/3/10
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It took you ( Eric Gisse, wannbe net·cop )
hours to get started again, I see.

As a curiosity, how much have you spent so far on
third·world IP·address/band·wdith ? Nice of you to help them so.

FastMail hasn't pulled out its big guns yet... yet.

eric gisse

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:13:12 PM1/3/10
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Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>
> It took you ( Eric Gisse, wannbe net�cop )
> hours to get started again, I see.

If it were me, and it wasn't, I would hypothesize that I have better things
to do than make sure your website is down.

>
> As a curiosity, how much have you spent so far on
> third�world IP�address/band�wdith ? Nice of you to help them so.

What makes you think I am spending money, Jeff?

Gregory Hall

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:18:41 PM1/3/10
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<Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM> wrote in message
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>
> It took you ( Eric Gisse, wannbe net�cop )
> hours to get started again, I see.


I just visited your site about twenty minutes ago and clicked on the links
to most of your family photos and they came right up. I sure didn't notice
anything being down.

--
Gregory Hall


Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:54:36 PM1/3/10
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As you* noted, my website** is back up again.
( *: Gregory Hall; **: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM )

FastMail.FM is getting EVER BETTER at putting WOULD·BE net cops down.
For a while there, I was getting 100 thousand downloads per day;
the same few files, tiny files, were downloaded over and over again.

Eric Gisse claims he's NOT attacking my band·width yet, oddly,
he knows IMMEDIATELY when it goes down ( VERY BRIEFLY ).
Either he's “in the know” or he's tracking it closer than I am.

If it's not Eric, then it's Robb.
Besides Eric, Robb is the only one traking this closely.

Robb took my posting privileges away*.
I think he runs OctaNews too... perhaps TeraNews as well.
( *: because I HATE attachments/binary·servers { FastMail is better } )

Besides being a net·cop·type, he's big on proxies and Anonymity;
“Lenny Nero” might be one of his socks.

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Michael Moroney

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:09:40 PM1/3/10
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"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> writes:

It's pretty pathetic, isn't it.

eric gisse

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:30:24 PM1/3/10
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Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>
> As you* noted, my website** is back up again.
> ( *: Gregory Hall; **: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM )
>
> FastMail.FM is getting EVER BETTER at putting WOULD�BE net cops down.
> For a while there, I was getting 100 thousand downloads per day;
> the same few files, tiny files, were downloaded over and over again.

You must have pissed someone off, relfy.

How long do you think fastmail.fm will support a user that attracts that
much bad attention? I don't think they'll be too upset at losing 10$/yr when
they realize how much headache would go away.

>
> Eric Gisse claims he's NOT attacking my band�width yet, oddly,
> he knows IMMEDIATELY when it goes down ( VERY BRIEFLY ).

> Either he's ?in the know? or he's tracking it closer than I am.

Really, Jeff? How many times have I said it is down?

>
> If it's not Eric, then it's Robb.
> Besides Eric, Robb is the only one traking this closely.

Who is robb and what did you do to piss him off? Perhaps you shouldn't try
to piss off everyone with your idiotic off-topic posts, your web-bug view
tracking, your idiotic quoting and posting style, your stalking, your
deliberate non-compliance with accepted RFC's, your sociopathic
tendencies...

>
> Robb took my posting privileges away*.
> I think he runs OctaNews too... perhaps TeraNews as well.
> ( *: because I HATE attachments/binary�servers { FastMail is better } )
>
> Besides being a net�cop�type, he's big on proxies and Anonymity;

> ?Lenny Nero? might be one of his socks.

Nobody seems to like you relfy. Perhaps you should meditate on that.

I bet all your problems would go away if you just stopped posting to USENET.

Aratzio

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:29:07 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:07:43 -0600, in the land of
alt.free.newsservers, Robb <--ro...@shared-secrets.com> got double
secret probation for writing:

>Tracking?, hardly. I run over a fair amount of critters, sometimes
>I just *have* to look at the greasy grimey gopher guts spewed across
>the road.

How about the "mutilated monkey meat"?

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Bill Snyder

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:28:54 AM1/4/10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:30:24 -0800, eric gisse
<jowr.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>>
>> Robb took my posting privileges away*.
>> I think he runs OctaNews too... perhaps TeraNews as well.
>> ( *: because I HATE attachments/binary·servers { FastMail is better } )
>>
>> Besides being a net·cop·type, he's big on proxies and Anonymity;
>> ?Lenny Nero? might be one of his socks.
>
>Nobody seems to like you relfy. Perhaps you should meditate on that.
>
>I bet all your problems would go away if you just stopped posting to USENET.

All? He'd stop being a deadbeat dad, a crappy programmer, a
sucker for every con artist in town . . . ?

--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]

Gregory Hall

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:26:50 PM1/4/10
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"Michael Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
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I wouldn't call it pathetic. It's just 'old-fashioned' but it does work. It
might even be better than many modern websites that display a bunch of crap
and play music and such and sometimes even cause the browser to crap out -
you know, things that are more bother than anything.

--
Gregory Hall


Gregory Hall

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:28:45 PM1/4/10
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<Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM> wrote in message
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There's no doubt Robb's sort of weird but he's no net abuser, IMO. I wish I
could say the same for Steven Crooked and the BananaBoi.

--
Gregory Hall


Gregory Hall

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:31:41 PM1/4/10
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"eric gisse" <jowr.pi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And I bet if you'd stop being such an arrogant asshole you might have some
friends and wouldn't have to spend your time doing DOS attacks.

Try to remember something. What goes around often comes around. You might
think you're the tough guy on the block but try not to forget that you're
small change.

--
Gregory Hall


Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:49:01 PM1/4/10
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“ robb @shared-secrets.com ”,
are you attacking my website*'s bandwidth ?
[ *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ]

A “yes” or “no” will do fine, thank you.

Gregory Hall told Eric Gisse:
“ You might think you're the tough guy on the block but
try not to forget that you're small change. ”.

I don't know if it's Eric or not, it might be Robb or someone else.

At any rate, there's NO END to my bandwidth and
FastMail.FM's “devs” have started work on a solution.

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eric gisse

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:15:16 PM1/4/10
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Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>
> ? robb @shared-secrets.com ?,


> are you attacking my website*'s bandwidth ?
> [ *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ]
>

> A ?yes? or ?no? will do fine, thank you.


>
> Gregory Hall told Eric Gisse:

> ? You might think you're the tough guy on the block but
> try not to forget that you're small change. ?.


>
> I don't know if it's Eric or not, it might be Robb or someone else.
>
> At any rate, there's NO END to my bandwidth and

> FastMail.FM's ?devs? have started work on a solution.

Really Jeff, no end to your bandwidth? Are you sure?

eric gisse

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:24:26 PM1/4/10
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Robb wrote:

> Jeff Relf wrote:
>
>>� robb @shared-secrets.com �,


>>are you attacking my website*'s bandwidth ?
>>[ *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ]
>>
>>A �yes� or �no� will do fine, thank you.
>

> No Jeff, I have many things to do other than dink around with OP's stuff.
> But you already *knew* that, I'm suprised you asked me such a question.

Am I the only one wondering why Relf insists on pissing off so many people?

[...]

Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:23:55 PM1/4/10
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No one can exhaust my wesite*'s bandwidth Gisse.
[ *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ]
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Sal Hepatica

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:50:26 PM1/4/10
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On 01/04/2010 05:23 PM, Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:
>
> No one can exhaust my wesite*'s bandwidth Gisse.
> [ *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ]

Jeff, I worry about you. Did you stop taking your lithium again?

Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:56:54 PM1/4/10
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You ( Robb ) replied to Gisse yet excluded Sci.Physics... ha ha.

Proxies in third·world countries WERE using “ wget -r ”
to download my website ( -r downloads local links as well ).
over and over again, several times per minute.

They're still doing it, but they've been throttled back some.
FastMail.FM's devs aren't done yet.

Note: Browsers never do anything like that, they cache images.

So I say:
“ an IP that downloads THE SAME FILE, over and over again,
―― 5+ times in 10 minutes or less ――
should be black·listed for 3 months or so. ”.

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Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:50:04 PM1/4/10
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Anyone can see the text at my website ( www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM );
there's bandwith for them, ALWAYS.

Most images/files are a few kilo·bytes, not .5 meg;
so people can click on a few links now and then.

FastMails “devs” have only just begun.

Browsers cache images; so I say:

eric gisse

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:54:48 PM1/4/10
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Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>
> No one can exhaust my wesite*'s bandwidth Gisse.
> [ *: www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM ]

Is that a challenge?

eric gisse

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:55:53 PM1/4/10
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Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>
> You ( Robb ) replied to Gisse yet excluded Sci.Physics... ha ha.
>

> Proxies in third�world countries WERE using ? wget -r ?


> to download my website ( -r downloads local links as well ).
> over and over again, several times per minute.
>
> They're still doing it, but they've been throttled back some.
> FastMail.FM's devs aren't done yet.
>
> Note: Browsers never do anything like that, they cache images.
>
> So I say:

> ? an IP that downloads THE SAME FILE, over and over again,
> ?? 5+ times in 10 minutes or less ??
> should be black�listed for 3 months or so. ?.

I'm impressed. It only took you and your moron host a week to figure out
what it would have taken me 15 minutes to solve.

Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:56:24 PM1/4/10
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FatMail's dev's started today; right from the start, I've known:

“ Browsers cache images;
so an IP that downloads THE SAME FILE, over and over again,
―― 5+ times in 10 minutes or less ――
should be black·listed for 3 months or so. ”.

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Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:22:47 AM1/5/10
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It'd be Very unusual for a browser to not cache images.

Even without caching, there's no need to re·download
THE SAME FILE 5+ times within a 10 minute interval.

Those that do so can be blacklisted for 3 months, I say.
FastMail's dev's ( back from a long holliday ) could make it an option.

You ( Robb ) wrote:
“ FM should have already "done it", if they know how,
when does your part and FM's meet? ”.

They say they've never seen anything like this before.
I'd never attack a web·site, what SICK fucker would ? !

eric gisse

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:54:23 AM1/5/10
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Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:
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> They say they've never seen anything like this before.

How long do you think they'll appreciate the novelty before realizing you
are too much of a burden?

> I'd never attack a web�site, what SICK fucker would ? !

What SICK fucker would attempt to delve into my personal life the way you
do?

jmfbahciv

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:52:00 AM1/5/10
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eric gisse wrote:

>
> Am I the only one wondering why Relf insists on pissing off so many people?
>

Probably :-). I figured out a long time ago that he thinks violating
the RFC standard is a hoot. Any employer should be wary of any of his
code.

/BAH

Michael Moroney

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:24:37 AM1/5/10
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eric gisse <jowr.pi...@gmail.com> writes:

>Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

>Is that a challenge?

sounds like he's looking for someone with access to a botnet to give him
a reason to whine "Nobody can access my files including my work files!"
for the rest of January.

What a maroon.

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Steve Crook

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:28:45 -0500, Gregory Hall wrote in
Message-Id: <3dqfjv....@news.alt.net>:

> There's no doubt Robb's sort of weird but he's no net abuser, IMO. I wish I
> could say the same for Steven Crooked and the BananaBoi.

Same chip, different year

Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:21:43 PM1/5/10
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unlike everyone else, I Googled you ( Eric Gisse ) a couple times.
According to your DRUNK ASS, anyone who does that is a “SICK fucker”.

No, you're just showing off your hand ( i.e. your proxies ).
These proxies cost money ( beer money ) and they're short·lived.

You caught FastMail's dev's while they were out on a long holiday.
They know how to handle your ILLEGAL activities, it's their job.

FastMail doesn't care about me, of course, but
they make a living out of putting down script·kiddies like you.

Even if FastMail doesn't come through for me,
I've got the time and talent to find one that does.

Darwin123

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:13:31 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 4, 9:55 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:
>

> I'm impressed. It only took you and your moron host a week to figure out
> what it would have taken me 15 minutes to solve.

You took a coffee break?

Franklin

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Jan 7, 2010, 3:53:19 PM1/7/10
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Jeff Relf wrote:
>
> As you* noted, my website** is back up again.
>
> FastMail.FM is getting EVER BETTER at putting WOULD�BE net cops down.
> For a while there, I was getting 100 thousand downloads per day;
> the same few files, tiny files, were downloaded over and over again.
>
> Eric Gisse claims he's NOT attacking my band�width yet, oddly,
> he knows IMMEDIATELY when it goes down ( VERY BRIEFLY ).
> Either he's �in the know� or he's tracking it closer than I am.

>
> If it's not Eric, then it's Robb.
> Besides Eric, Robb is the only one traking this closely.
>
> Robb took my posting privileges away*.
> I think he runs OctaNews too... perhaps TeraNews as well.
>
> Besides being a net�cop�type, he's big on proxies and Anonymity;
> �Lenny Nero� might be one of his socks.

You seem to be speculating about Octanews.

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