ihatesigmachi: Sigma Chi Secret Bullshit
ShanaLyns
Dear Mr. Chuck Wagon,
I'm speechless. I don't think I've ever felt so offended on behalf of
another person or organization in my life. I don't know who you are, but
you obviously have a unresolved issues with Sigma Chi. Out of respect for
them, I did not read past the first line. I simply scrolled quickly down
and back to get the general gist of what you were saying.
Words can't express how reprehensible I find your actions. If someone had
posted our rituals for the world to see, I'd be furious. I'm assuming
you're a former brother who depinned or a pledge who depledged. Either
way, you should know what you're despoiling. Either way, Sigma Chi is
better off without you because you have no respect for the enduiring
secrecy of the rituals of your former fraternity.
Like I said, I was speechless. I can't fathom your hostility. I only hope
you get over it.
Shana
Delta Gamma
( Unlike Mr. Wagon, I stand behind my opinions by signing my real name.)
Adam Foxworthy
Chuck,
I have to agree with Shana here. You have spoiled something that has
thrived for over 100 years. I know that the founders of my fraternity, Phi
Delta Theta, didn't start it up just to have it ruined 150 years later. It
is the same with Sigma Chi, our Miami Triad brothers. Your lack of respect
for their secrets sickens me. And to let you know, I have alerted Sigma's
GHQ of your actions. I hope they find you, you sorry little bastard.
Adam Foxworthy
Oregon Delta
Phi Delta Theta
SHARK®
ihates...@juno.com (Chuck Wagon) scribbled with their Crayola:
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Take it elsewhere freak. If your life is lead around by the collar of
hate of a certain fraternity it's only going to end up a sad life.
Carcharodon Carcharias
"Ronin"
RMartin77
As I'm sure you are unaware, a person, truly believing in the principles
of the greek system, could care less what the rituals of a rival
fraternity/sorority are. The rituals of Sigma Chi and other fraternities
are much more than words written to a newsgroup. You may think you've
shared the secrets of Sigma Chi with the world, but rest assured, you will
never understand Sigma Chi enough to do that.
RDM...
Matt Lysne
I'd have to agree with you there. On the face of it, all houses, when it
comes to their "secrets," are invarious. Yeah, different handshakes,
different greetings, etc., but when it comes down to it these secrets are
bullshit alone. These secrets only become important when you understand
the history of your house and incorporate it with your experience in the
house. So yeah, for jeopardy's sake I could possibly pass as a Sigma Chi,
but
in reality, I'll never be a Sigma Chi guy(which is fine, since I'm in
another house.) And it sounds to me like you never
became a real Sigma Chi yourself. It's too bad that you were
initiated...you really
wasted your time and Sigma Chi's.
ShanaLyns
Yeah, but Shark, the difference between you and this person is that you'll
hang around to debate the validity of any message you post. Somehow, I
have a feeling we're never going to see Mr. Chuck Wagon again, unless it's
to post more vitrolic anti Sigma Chi stuff. Even if you don't use your
real name, you maintain an identity and take responsiblity for your
actions. I doubt that he will.
Shana
SHARK®
rmar...@aol.com (RMartin77) scribbled with their Crayola:
>As I'm sure you are unaware, a person, truly believing in the principles
>of the greek system, could care less what the rituals of a rival
>fraternity/sorority are. The rituals of Sigma Chi and other fraternities
>are much more than words written to a newsgroup. You may think you've
>shared the secrets of Sigma Chi with the world, but rest assured, you will
>never understand Sigma Chi enough to do that.
>RDM...
You just can't say it any better than that. Bravo and Kudo's to you.
shan...@aol.com (ShanaLyns) scribbled with their Crayola:
>Dear Mr. Chuck Wagon,
>I'm speechless. I don't think I've ever felt so offended on behalf of
>another person or organization in my life. I don't know who you are, but
>you obviously have a unresolved issues with Sigma Chi. Out of respect for
>them, I did not read past the first line. I simply scrolled quickly down
>and back to get the general gist of what you were saying.
>Words can't express how reprehensible I find your actions. If someone had
>posted our rituals for the world to see, I'd be furious. I'm assuming
>you're a former brother who depinned or a pledge who depledged. Either
>way, you should know what you're despoiling. Either way, Sigma Chi is
>better off without you because you have no respect for the enduiring
>secrecy of the rituals of your former fraternity.
>Like I said, I was speechless. I can't fathom your hostility. I only hope
>you get over it.
>Shana
>Delta Gamma
>( Unlike Mr. Wagon, I stand behind my opinions by signing my real name.)
I agreed with her up until the last point. Nothing irks me more as a
person who believes their ideas are more valid because they sign their
name to it.
An idea is valid because of what it contains, not who said it. Of
course, I didn't sign my name to this so my point is obviously not as
good as some peoples.
:)
Carcharodon Carcharias
"Ronin"
Nerrie M. Zohn
I have to completely agree with Shana. Your actions are sickeningly
childish. I find your actions even more disgusting because I am
someone who depleged. But I am least have the respect to keep my mouth
shut. The brothers who accepted me let me into their trust expecting
me to do the same. By choosing to depledgemade a decision for
yourself, but it is still your responsibilty to keep their rituals to
yourself. It seems to me that revealing rituals is what can be
nothing less than a systematic "rape" of the organization, its
violating and insulting both to the fraternity and the greek system.
It was once said that "two people can keep a secret if one of them is
dead." I'd hoped greek rituals are exempt to some extent due to the
respect offered by its members and pledges (this includes deactivated
pledges and members.)
Nerrie.
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Daniel Trbovich
At the risk of being controversial, I say bravo to this post and I admire
his courage to break ranks and expose fraternities.
All-in-all, a job well done, young chap!
ShanaLyns
At the risk of being controversial, I say bravo to this post and I admire
>his courage to break ranks and expose fraternities.
>All-in-all, a job well done, young chap!
Why? What's to admire here? As far as we know, Sigma Chi did nothing to
him. He hasn't come out and said that he's doing this as retalitation for
something they did to him. It seems to be simply an act of spite.
You say he needs to "expose fraternties". It's not as if they're
sacrificing virgins or worshipping satan behind closed doors. We have a
right to our secrets. These men have done nothing wrong ( Innoncent till
proven guilty, remember?! ), and therefore have done nothing to deserve
this vitrolic and sensless attack on thier tradtions and rituals. By
implying that this man, who is hiding himself in the anonymity of the
usenet, has done something brave serves only to feed into his meglomanical
cosmology. Basically, you're encouraging his hatred.
I just don't get it.
Shana
Brumbjorn
I feel sick... sick and violated and I am not even a Sigma Chi (kinda the
wrong sex for that...)
I know I would feel like hell if my sorority ritual book was published on
the web for all to see. I agree with the other posts that it has not
meaning with out experience.
I am sorry for this individual, actually.
Sorry that he does ot know the meaning of trust
Sorry that he does not know the meaning of brotherhood
Sorry that he will never experience being a member of a GLO to the fullest
I'm saddened that something like this had to happen.
Deburger
I don't know what Sigma Chi supposedly did to you and I haven't read any
of what you displayed here, but you obviously don't understand what it
means to be a member of a greek organization. I saw it all in my sorority
(I was President, Treasurer, a member of Standards, and a member of the
Rush Evaluating Committee), but never did any member or former member show
such blatant disregard for the principles set forth by our founders. I
know a number of Sigma Chi's at my university, all of which are very much
undeserving of the disrespect you have shown Sigma Chi, not to mention
every other greek organization in existence. I feel sorry for you, not
only because you are an idiot, but also because you will never know what
it means to truly be Greek.