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West rebukes Putin over Syria at G8 summit
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Jesse
Jun 17, 2013, 3:20:40 PM6/17/13
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Lets be clear, I am pulling for Putin here.
Sad to say, I have 0 trust in my so-called "leader", and probably even
less for the rest of the pack of euro shills. I think Putin stands alone
as a statesman representing the actual interests of his country, and not
a shill for powerful special interest.
So, the "West rebukes Putin over Syria" huh ?
The hypocrisy abounds - Like he is the bad guy for arming his client,
while we are righteous, peace loving saints for arming radical islamic
zealots whos only goals are to subvert countries and governments and
export extremism & terror.
There is this one hopeful passage:
"Putin described anti-Assad rebels as cannibals who ate human flesh and
warned Obama of the dangers of giving guns to such people. Moscow also
said it would not permit no-fly zones over to Syria."
Kinda odd how they quote "Putin", then switch over to "Moscow".
Did he actually say "Russia will not permit no-fly zones over to Syria." ?
Not clear where they got this from, who in "Moscow" said this and when
... But if someone in authority said this, I take it as a positive
development. A no-fly zone, as everyone knows, would be the death knell
for Assad, and a ticket to Damascus for "the rebels".
If anyone has a link to who in Moscow allegedly said this and when, I'd
be interested to see it.
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Western leaders rebuked Russian President Vladimir Putin for supporting
Syria's Bashar al-Assad's attempt to crush a two-year-old uprising,
setting the stage for a tense G8 summit of the world's most powerful
nations.
U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to use his first face-to-face
meeting with Putin in a year to try to persuade the Kremlin chief to
bring Assad to the negotiating table to end a conflict in which at least
93,000 people have been killed.
British Prime Minister David Cameron, who is chairing the G8 summit in a
remote golf resort in Northern Ireland, conceded there was "a big
difference" between the positions of Russia and the West on how to
resolve the war.
In some of his most colorful remarks on Syria, Putin described
anti-Assad rebels as cannibals who ate human flesh and warned Obama of
the dangers of giving guns to such people. Moscow also said it would not
permit no-fly zones over to Syria.
For their part, Western leaders have criticized Russia, Syria's most
powerful ally, for sending weapons to Assad forces and considering
deliveries of a sophisticated missile system.
"How can we allow that Russia continues to deliver arms to the Bashar
al-Assad regime when the opposition receives very few and is being
massacred?" French President Francois Hollande said.
Stung by recent victories for Assad's forces and their support from
Hezbollah guerrillas, the United States said last week it would step up
military aid to the rebels including automatic weapons, light mortars
and rocket-propelled grenades.
In an apparent response to this development, Assad said Europe would
"pay the price" if it delivered arms to rebel forces, saying that would
result in the export of terrorism to Europe.
"Terrorists will gain experience in combat and return with extremist
ideologies," he said in an advance extract of an interview due to be
published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Tuesday.
Divisions over Syria dominated the atmosphere as global leaders streamed
into the heavily guarded resort in Northern Ireland, a place once rocked
by decades of violence but which Cameron now wants to showcase as a
model of conflict resolution.
Despite the disagreements over Syria, Putin and his Western counterparts
appeared cordial in their public appearances. The Kremlin chief cracked
a grin as he shook Cameron's hand outside the venue, as police
helicopters surveyed the site overhead.
Moscow and Washington both agree that the bloodshed in Syria should stop
and say they are genuinely trying to overcome mistrust between them.
They had earlier agreed to set up a Syrian peace conference in Geneva
but progress has been slow.
The European Union has dropped its arms embargo on Syria, allowing
France and Britain to arm the rebels, though Cameron expressed concern
about some of Assad's foes.
"Let's be clear - I am as worried as anybody else about elements of the
Syrian opposition, who are extremists, who support terrorism and who are
a great danger to our world," Cameron said.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-putin-face-tough-talks-syria-g8-summit-072959981.html
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In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then
it costs nothing to be a patriot.
Sad to say, I have 0 trust in my so-called "leader", and probably even
less for the rest of the pack of euro shills. I think Putin stands alone
as a statesman representing the actual interests of his country, and not
a shill for powerful special interest.
So, the "West rebukes Putin over Syria" huh ?
The hypocrisy abounds - Like he is the bad guy for arming his client,
while we are righteous, peace loving saints for arming radical islamic
zealots whos only goals are to subvert countries and governments and
export extremism & terror.
There is this one hopeful passage:
"Putin described anti-Assad rebels as cannibals who ate human flesh and
warned Obama of the dangers of giving guns to such people. Moscow also
said it would not permit no-fly zones over to Syria."
Kinda odd how they quote "Putin", then switch over to "Moscow".
Did he actually say "Russia will not permit no-fly zones over to Syria." ?
Not clear where they got this from, who in "Moscow" said this and when
... But if someone in authority said this, I take it as a positive
development. A no-fly zone, as everyone knows, would be the death knell
for Assad, and a ticket to Damascus for "the rebels".
If anyone has a link to who in Moscow allegedly said this and when, I'd
be interested to see it.
```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Western leaders rebuked Russian President Vladimir Putin for supporting
Syria's Bashar al-Assad's attempt to crush a two-year-old uprising,
setting the stage for a tense G8 summit of the world's most powerful
nations.
U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to use his first face-to-face
meeting with Putin in a year to try to persuade the Kremlin chief to
bring Assad to the negotiating table to end a conflict in which at least
93,000 people have been killed.
British Prime Minister David Cameron, who is chairing the G8 summit in a
remote golf resort in Northern Ireland, conceded there was "a big
difference" between the positions of Russia and the West on how to
resolve the war.
In some of his most colorful remarks on Syria, Putin described
anti-Assad rebels as cannibals who ate human flesh and warned Obama of
the dangers of giving guns to such people. Moscow also said it would not
permit no-fly zones over to Syria.
For their part, Western leaders have criticized Russia, Syria's most
powerful ally, for sending weapons to Assad forces and considering
deliveries of a sophisticated missile system.
"How can we allow that Russia continues to deliver arms to the Bashar
al-Assad regime when the opposition receives very few and is being
massacred?" French President Francois Hollande said.
Stung by recent victories for Assad's forces and their support from
Hezbollah guerrillas, the United States said last week it would step up
military aid to the rebels including automatic weapons, light mortars
and rocket-propelled grenades.
In an apparent response to this development, Assad said Europe would
"pay the price" if it delivered arms to rebel forces, saying that would
result in the export of terrorism to Europe.
"Terrorists will gain experience in combat and return with extremist
ideologies," he said in an advance extract of an interview due to be
published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Tuesday.
Divisions over Syria dominated the atmosphere as global leaders streamed
into the heavily guarded resort in Northern Ireland, a place once rocked
by decades of violence but which Cameron now wants to showcase as a
model of conflict resolution.
Despite the disagreements over Syria, Putin and his Western counterparts
appeared cordial in their public appearances. The Kremlin chief cracked
a grin as he shook Cameron's hand outside the venue, as police
helicopters surveyed the site overhead.
Moscow and Washington both agree that the bloodshed in Syria should stop
and say they are genuinely trying to overcome mistrust between them.
They had earlier agreed to set up a Syrian peace conference in Geneva
but progress has been slow.
The European Union has dropped its arms embargo on Syria, allowing
France and Britain to arm the rebels, though Cameron expressed concern
about some of Assad's foes.
"Let's be clear - I am as worried as anybody else about elements of the
Syrian opposition, who are extremists, who support terrorism and who are
a great danger to our world," Cameron said.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-putin-face-tough-talks-syria-g8-summit-072959981.html
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then
it costs nothing to be a patriot.
René Groumal
Jun 17, 2013, 5:55:16 PM6/17/13
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Cr�tin.
Jesse
Jun 17, 2013, 6:16:29 PM6/17/13
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Jesse wrote:
>
> If anyone has a link to who in Moscow allegedly said this and when, I'd
> be interested to see it.
I did find this, pretty far off from any definitive statement or
>
> If anyone has a link to who in Moscow allegedly said this and when, I'd
> be interested to see it.
commitment, but I'm guessing this must be the reference posted above.
Russia says it will not allow Syria no-fly zones
Russia, a veto-wielding member of the U.N. Security Council, will not
permit no-fly zones to be imposed over Syria, Foreign Ministry spokesman
Alexander Lukashevich said on Monday.
"I think we fundamentally will not allow this scenario," Lukashevich
told a news briefing, adding that calls for a no-fly zone showed
disrespect for international law.
Lukashevich spoke before planned talks between President Vladimir Putin
and U.S. President Barack Obama on the sidelines of a G8 summit in
Northern Ireland which were expected to focus on the conflict in Syria
that has killed at least 93,000 people.
Russia and the United States are trying to bring representatives of
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his foes to the negotiating table,
but Moscow has criticized U.S. plans to arm rebel forces and to consider
imposing a no-fly zone.
"All these maneuvers about no-fly zones and humanitarian corridors are a
direct consequence of a lack of respect for international law,"
Lukashevich said.
He said Russia did not want a scenario in Syria that resembled the
events in Libya after the imposition of a no-fly zone which enabled NATO
aircraft to help rebels overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-syria-crisis-russia-idUSBRE95G0CA20130617
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