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Robert Cohen

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Oct 24, 2005, 10:29:32 AM10/24/05
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outrageousness
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i apologize for this

10. Robert Cohen Oct 24, 9:53 am show options

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Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:53:50 -0700
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Subject: Re: Avian Flu Mutates ---> 180 Million Human Deaths
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Damne, this is bad, so thus I'm re-propounding it in a fit of relous
jage <another terrific impression of Peter Sellers' CLUECEAU>.


1. the toast in the machine Oct 22, 9:16 pm show options


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Date: 22 Oct 2005 18:16:58 -0700
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Subject: Autopsy Confirms Parrot's Death Caused by Bird Flu: U.S.
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CELEBRITY BIRD FLU ROUNDUP: ...Don Henley and The Eagles were
euthanized earlier today--not because of any real concerns about bird
flu, but rather, everyone just seemed to agree that the time had
finally come. ...Ethan Hawke has been quarantined in an effort to stop
the spread of some very bad movies that have been making viewers
extremely ill for many years. ...Sadly, crazed, off-the-chain, phone
throwing actor, Russell Crowe, has tested positive--for rabies.
...Sales of Charlie Parker albums have reached an all time low. ...You
might want to steer clear of basketball great, Larry Bird. Sources
report that he has a mysterious case of the sniffles, and his nose is
running and dribbling everywhere. ...Lance Armstrong was seen buying
condoms and avoiding plenty of chicken soup while in the company of
fiancee Sheryl Crow. ...In Vatican City, Catholic cardinals pray for
vaccine. ...Health officials are still debating the risks associated
with a roaming free-range Dan Quayle. ...In an effort to help raise
public awareness about the possibility of an avian flu pandemic,
members of the 60's rock group, The Byrds, have reunited to record two
new public service announcements. The first will feature an original
song entitled, "Turn, Turn, Turn Your Head and Cough." The second will
include a cover of a Bob Dylan tune called, "Mr. Tamiflu Man."
IN A RELATED STORY: 80's rockers, A Flock of Seagulls, have been
permanently banned from induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Once again, this has nothing to do with the bird flu scare. "They just
really suck, and allowing them in would set a terrible precedent,
opening a floodgate of Men Without Hats and Kajagoogoo type groups,"
says a spokesman. "It would have a disturbing 'chilling effect' on
entertainment quality."


No really, a Parrot died:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051022/hl_afp/healthflubritain_05102211...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051022/hl_afp/healthbritainflueu_051022...

...Thanks a million...Jim W


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La-Pomme-de-Tell

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Oct 24, 2005, 10:51:45 AM10/24/05
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I could not open any of the above websites, but I can link you to:

1918 Influenza Pandemic: http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/
1918 'Flue Came From Birds:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4308872.stm

and appreciate that you shall agree with us that nowadays we are again
facing quite a serious threat. Of course, a good black sense of humour
does not exclude feelings, compassion and worry, but helps keep one's
nerves and stear through adversity.

Super "supercalifragelisticexpealidocious" Nany's "just a spoonful of
sugar makes the medicin go down..", and all the Tamiflu in the world
are not going to be enough to prevent future pandemics

Robert Cohen

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Oct 24, 2005, 12:31:25 PM10/24/05
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The Apple of (Wm?) Tell:

I could not open any of the above websites, but I can link you to:


and appreciate that you shall agree with us that nowadays we are again
facing quite a serious threat. Of course, a good black sense of humour
does not exclude feelings, compassion and worry, but helps keep one's
nerves and stear through adversity.


Super "supercalifragelisticexpealidocious" Nany's "just a spoonful of
sugar makes the medicin go down..", and all the Tamiflu in the world
are not going to be enough to prevent future pandemics

Robt:

I agree.

Such sick humor is a way/means for me to adapt/die--or maladapt/die--or
casa ra sera (what will be, will be, as they don't say in France).

In other words, it makes no difference what the helle I think.

YoursTruly2

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Oct 24, 2005, 1:18:57 PM10/24/05
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Robert Cohen wrote:
> The Apple of (Wm?) Tell:
Yes. Please do not shoot any arrow.

>
> I agree.
>
> Such sick humor is a way/means for me to adapt/die--or maladapt/die--or
> casa ra sera (what will be, will be, as they don't say in France).
>
> In other words, it makes no difference what the helle I think.

Then why, try and express what you think, if you do not think that you
should value your own thinking, neither think that others should think
that your thinking has any value at all?

Anyway, to calm down, I would suggest that you contemplate the
Margrite's underneath surrealistic Work of Art for a while:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/336bg.jpg

By the way, are you a Kafka reader?

Robert Cohen

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Oct 24, 2005, 4:49:19 PM10/24/05
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re: advice about waiting for the plague of 2005--2006

Thanks for referral cogent cogitation & complementary curded cottage
cheese.

Did ya know Annenberg, the son of a major bookie (allegedly of course)
sold TV GUIDE to Rupert Murdoch, and besides
generously benefiting the elitist Univ of Pennsylvania with endowments
& building, contributed
$300+ million
USD to black student college funds.

I'd call such
"paying his dues."

Read
Franz Kafka? Excerpts, though no full book of his witty paranoia.

I consider myself in the absurdism realm of reality a la Joseph
Heller's
CATCH 22, but couldn't complete that crazy & wild
novel either, though the movie works to an extent in capturing some of
his perceptions of experiences/observations of WW II a la "Yossarian,"
who has reinacarnated at <alt.france> I note.

Robert Cohen

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Oct 24, 2005, 5:08:06 PM10/24/05
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re: caption under illustration in French: "This is not a pipe"

It's called a pipe.

It packs pipe tobacco.

It smells like a pipe.

It makes one's
teeth brownish-yellow, so be sure and brush with one of those terrific
brushes
that has a double A battery that runs forever, or until you go back to
a regular brush.

I've actually smoked such, and thus can swear this
on a stack of pipe-cleaners (after I un-do 'em from their chaining).

According to Lord Berkeley, it's the idea in my mind of a pipe.

Something to do with Wittgenstein linguistics?

A PVC pipe & may deteriorate/
collapse in your yard or chez/
maison?

So what's the joke/
catch that I don't get?

"Pipe" en francais means "pope?"

YoursTruly

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Oct 24, 2005, 6:13:17 PM10/24/05
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Robert Cohen wrote:
> re: caption under illustration in French: "This is not a pipe"
>
> It's called a pipe.It packs pipe tobacco.It smells like a pipe.So what's the
> joke/catch that I don't get?

> "Pipe" en francais means "pope?" No pipe means also the smoking instrument. No catch at all, especially not like catch22 and Yossarian, which I reckon is perhaps one of the 10 best books I have read in my life, together with Kafka's "Der Prozess". Your expressed feelings appeared to me to be rather "surrealistic", therefore my remarks & queries.

This is an excerpt of the html version of the file
http://www.knaw.nl/ecpa/sepia/conferencePapers/Hesse.pdf.


The betrayal of the pictures

My visual introduction is one of the models of modern art. We see a
bent tobacco pipe, presented in an almost technical manner, shadowless
before a neutral background. Below this pipe we read in French, because
the painter René Magritte was Belgian, and in letters like those found
on old school wall maps "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" - this is not a
pipe. So, did our perception fail, or our experience? Yes, and no. What
we are looking at is not a pipe, it is the pictorial representation of
a pipe, the version of which shown here is from the County Museum of
Art Los Angeles, painted in 1928/29, with the dimensions of 62,2 x 81
cm. Its first title is "The linguistic usage". The second "The
betrayal of the pictures" [2]. But, we are not seeing that painting
either, however - we are looking at the projection of a digitized
photograph, in this case a slide, taken from a book.

Thinking about this matters of fact, Magritte teaches us something by
showing this picture: Not only about the basic difference between
pictorial representation and the reality that pictures refer to. He
shows, in addition, that understanding has something to do with sensual
perception and social definition of concepts. Finally: that our work in
museums and archives is always concerned with putting nonverbal objects
into words, classifying them scientifically or preparing them for
access. 70 years ago the artists reflected on the increasingly
accellerating Iconic Turn of our societies, first
materialised by photography.


More infos: http://www.exile.ru/2001-September-07/press_review.html

Nothing appears to be really as it is. Buddha said: everything in life
is but an illusion.

Can you follow me?

Robert Cohen

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Oct 24, 2005, 8:31:20 PM10/24/05
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Perhaps George Berkeley has a similar "vision"/version/interpretation
of reality, as I recall from freshman (first college year) metaphysical
philosophy (?).

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/berkeley/

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley

-= Léon =-

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Oct 24, 2005, 10:16:28 PM10/24/05
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les contemplations de Robert Cohen l'ont amené(e) à écrire :

>
> Such sick humor is a way/means for me to adapt/die--or
> maladapt/die--or casa ra sera (what will be, will be, as they don't
> say in France).

(lo) que sera, sera ! -- (what) will be, will be !, as they say in Spanish.

>
> In other words, it makes no difference what the helle I think.

--
-= Léon =-
"No te hagas buey, dame mi dinero".
Gilberto, 1994.


Werewolfy

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Oct 25, 2005, 2:58:22 AM10/25/05
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Mr Cohen thought;

"this is bad, so thus I'm re-propounding it in a fit of relous
jage <another terrific impression of Peter Sellers' CLUECEAU"

Three glaring errors.

Dr Spooner was the model for inverted words such as this. That is why
such errors are today called, 'Spoonerisms'.

A pipe for smoking is called...Un pipe in French. It is pronounced
peep.

The Pope is called, 'Pape'

I didn't find any humour, black or otherwise, in the rest of that post.

Werewolfy

YoursTruly2

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Oct 25, 2005, 5:18:09 AM10/25/05
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Werewolfy a écrit :
> A pipe for smoking is called...Une pipe in French. It is pronounced
> peep.

> I didn't find any humour, black or otherwise, in the rest of that post.

This happens to the best people. Humour is a multi-level, multi- tier
"fuzzy" gift to mankind, that varies from culture to culture, people to
people.

Don't worry.

"This is not a pun"

Amicalement

Robert Cohen

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Oct 25, 2005, 7:54:55 AM10/25/05
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The dumb piece also injustly
omits BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ.

Though Burt wasn't that great of a rocker,
"The Lancasters," featuring Bert, Kirk Douglas, and ROBIN Leek on the
five string banjo, was sometimes the opening act for Herman's Hermits
circa 1965,.

And recall when Gregory PECKED/sadistically killed a MOCKINGBIRD in rhe
Godzilla sequel?

Greg couldn't act a lick, but people liked his slapstick, especially
that Cameo soap appearance on The 3 Stooges Pie BIG BIRD. ...

....
You're correct, such is so weak/lame it should be ...quarantined.

Robert Cohen

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Oct 25, 2005, 8:07:14 PM10/25/05
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BULLETIN----FLASH---STOP PRESS


******************************************************************

*Scheduled for movie-making next year: THE PINK PANTHER, a new episode
with a new Inspector Clouseau played by Steve Martin

You may recall Steve Martin as Cyrano deBergerac, THE JERK, banjoist,
THE PLAID DETECTIVE, wild 'n crazy guy, KING TUT singer, author,
Disneyland guide (when teenager), and the comedian who did not
introduce UMAH to OPRAH.

* Contingency: if there is a next year.

Robert Cohen

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Oct 25, 2005, 9:07:52 PM10/25/05
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Hottest satire/parody currently on American tv delivered by
deliberately emphasized French-surname rapport, "Colbert Repore."

And the satire includes, ta da, bird flu.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/25/arts/television/25watc.html?8hpib

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