ATTN Merkins
Peter Amschel
formerly a portion of the British Empire.
In article <snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com>,
the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com says...
> Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>
> Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
>
Stan Rothwell
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>
> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> >
> > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> > rights... very well, but...
>
> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from Stanley??
> California??
Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
stringy beef...
>
> Go figure
> >
> > > Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
> >
> > Sorry, but the only time I can remember getting
> > Montezuma's Revenge (Tourists Disease) in the
> > last 10 years was at Harry Ramsdale's on the
> > Belfast quay... :O(>
>
> One would have thought that such an expert on Fish and Chips, would know
> that it was Harry Ramsdens, and not Ramsdales.
> ROFL!!
BFD, I went there once and put it on my NO GO list...
> >
> > Fish 'n Chips (proper Americano spelling) can be good
> > if done properly, but most people in the UK have little
> > or no clue how to do it right.
>
> ROFL!!! Now we are going to get a lecture on British food, by an American
> individual who couldn't even figure where to get decent fish and chips in
> the first place!
Well, having sample hot food bars between Belfast and Derry,
and had the misfortune of sampling every place in Stranraer that
kept late hours, I figured it couldn't be anywhere around there...
>
> Pull the other leg, Stanley!!
>
> > The oil (preferably NOT
> > lard) needs to be hot enough so that the dead bugger
> > isn't dripping grease like a wet sponge (one or two
> > pieces of newsprint should be fine for spill containment;
> > you shouldn't need the entire Sunday Times to do it).
> >
> > The Belgians know how to get it right, at least with
> > the chips part. You should stop beating them up
> > during football matches and learn how to cook
> > from them...
> >
> > BTW, I clipped the other NG's, as you posted to
> > too many.. I left the 2 food groups as well as
> > alt.california, as it would be easier to flame you from
> > here...
>
> At least it may have worked as a form of damage control.
>
> Of all the posts you have inserted in this NG, Stanley, this one is a
> classic. Your dumbest and most arrogant
At least it's nice to see you post again...
Your ass heal yet from that whipping
CB gave you a while back??? :Oo
Stan
Listener[AsS]
Peter Amschel <amsc...@pe.net> wrote in message
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> Yeah, man; and in October I'll be checking out Afghanistan,
> formerly a portion of the British Empire.
I heard it was what an Empee was built on? Was I wrong?
--
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> the chips by my house are the best, the bloke makes them orange somehow.
>
> FACT: walsall was the birthplace of the battered mars bar.
Now THERE is a confectionary to warm the cockles of my heart!
>
> --
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>
> " Trying is the first step towards failure"
> Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> >
Tony Ning Lew
"Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:
>
>[CiC]-GaRRy- <NOTKILLED-G...@Yah-NOSMAP-oo.com> wrote in message
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>> the chips by my house are the best, the bloke makes them orange somehow.
>>
>> FACT: walsall was the birthplace of the battered mars bar.
>
>Now THERE is a confectionary to warm the cockles of my heart!
Ummm...
A "merkin" is a patch of fake pubic hair formerly worn by phony
"nude" dancers wearing flesh color panties to simulate nudity...
(at a distance, I presume).
Aviator
Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
> news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>
> sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> rights... very well, but...
And where do you think all those old American recipes came from Stanley??
California??
Go figure
>
> > Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
>
> Sorry, but the only time I can remember getting
> Montezuma's Revenge (Tourists Disease) in the
> last 10 years was at Harry Ramsdale's on the
> Belfast quay... :O(>
One would have thought that such an expert on Fish and Chips, would know
that it was Harry Ramsdens, and not Ramsdales.
ROFL!!
>
> Fish 'n Chips (proper Americano spelling) can be good
> if done properly, but most people in the UK have little
> or no clue how to do it right.
ROFL!!! Now we are going to get a lecture on British food, by an American
individual who couldn't even figure where to get decent fish and chips in
the first place!
Pull the other leg, Stanley!!
> The oil (preferably NOT
> lard) needs to be hot enough so that the dead bugger
> isn't dripping grease like a wet sponge (one or two
> pieces of newsprint should be fine for spill containment;
> you shouldn't need the entire Sunday Times to do it).
>
> The Belgians know how to get it right, at least with
> the chips part. You should stop beating them up
> during football matches and learn how to cook
> from them...
>
> BTW, I clipped the other NG's, as you posted to
> too many.. I left the 2 food groups as well as
> alt.california, as it would be easier to flame you from
> here...
At least it may have worked as a form of damage control.
Of all the posts you have inserted in this NG, Stanley, this one is a
classic. Your dumbest and most arrogant
>
> Stan
>
>
>
The Devil's Advocate©
<the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>
>Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
--
regards,
The Devil's Advocate
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The Devil's Advocate©
<the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
>if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
>white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in Alabama-USA
>call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
>dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how disgusting)-
>Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
>an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
>wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
>crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
>care! Can you believe it?
Fried tomato? Ewwwwww! Sounds disgusting. What's wrong with those
people? Yes, I've heard about how greasy the food is in England. And I
thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there, besides
Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
>Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one -- They
>call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
I've heard of that desert. What is it? Sounds like something you'd go
to a free clinic for.
Stan Rothwell
Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:14 -0800, "Stan Rothwell"
> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
>
> >
> >Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> news:8c0oi4$fq7$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
> >> >
> >> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> >> >
> >> > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> >> > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> >> > rights... very well, but...
> >>
> >> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
Stanley??
> >> California??
> >
> >a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> >Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> >stringy beef...
>
> if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> care! Can you believe it?
Know what you're saying... a vile concoction
for sure... Hate to say it, but soggy fish 'n chips
would be a vast improvement! :Oo
Stan
Stan Rothwell
The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
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> >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> >care! Can you believe it?
>
> people? Yes, I've heard about how greasy the food is in England. And I
> thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
> cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
> some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
> country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
> dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
> no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
> Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there, besides
> Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
Funny that when a KFC opened in Ballykelly (NI), the
local restaranteurs had a fit, because they felt it was
unfair competition to serve better food at cheaper
prices, and from a drive-up, no doubt! 'Twas the
craic at the Drummond Bar until a very politically
incorrect barman said "Ay, I sort of like the
Colonel. The food is not as greasy there".
Does that say something, or what???
Stan
Jim Ley
wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:14 -0800, "Stan Rothwell"
><roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
>
>>
>>> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from Stanley??
>>> California??
>>
>>Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
>>a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
>>Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
>>stringy beef...
>
>AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
>if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
>white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in Alabama-USA
>call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
>dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how disgusting)-
>Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
>an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
>wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
>crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
>care! Can you believe it?
Lard? you can't get any good Lard with your breakfast anymore...
Pehraps if you'd actually eaten one rather than tried cooking it
yourself you might've got it right...
>Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one -- They
>call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
Oh yeah I've eaten that so often... it just so popular, you really
can't avoid eating it - The second world war was 50 years ago, back
then it might've been eaten.
Jim.
Cyrek the Illogical
> My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
> greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
> fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
> fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
Wrong end of the country, my friend. And possibly the wrong fish. The best
F&C in the UK is found usually in Yorkshire & Lancashire, and the better
fish (IMHO) is haddock (not cod as is usually found down south)...
Two words: "Harry Ramsden's" ;-)
Carl
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TankSlappa[TiT]
<cy...@bigfoot.com> waffled on about something:
>
>The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
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>> My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
>> greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
>> fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
>> fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
>
>Wrong end of the country, my friend. And possibly the wrong fish. The best
>F&C in the UK is found usually in Yorkshire & Lancashire, and the better
>fish (IMHO) is haddock (not cod as is usually found down south)...
>
>Two words: "Harry Ramsden's" ;-)
That doesn't help, my brother found a Harry Ramsdens just outside
Sydney Australia!
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> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:59:11 -0000, "Cyrek the Illogical"
> <cy...@bigfoot.com> waffled on about something:
>
> >
> >The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in
message
> >news:38e54a7e...@news.earthlink.net...
> >> My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
> >> greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
> >> fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
> >> fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
> >
> >Wrong end of the country, my friend. And possibly the wrong fish. The
best
> >F&C in the UK is found usually in Yorkshire & Lancashire, and the better
> >fish (IMHO) is haddock (not cod as is usually found down south)...
> >
> >Two words: "Harry Ramsden's" ;-)
>
> That doesn't help, my brother found a Harry Ramsdens just outside
> Sydney Australia!
>
I wonder if any other Americans here remember the Arthur Treacher's Fish
'n' Chips food chain that used to be all over. Prolly the closest thing we
ever had to a F&C shop over here. They have disappeared now as people have
chosen Long John Silvers and Captain D's instead. They are both disgusting.
--
Topo
tiny
wrote in message news:38fc6428...@news.fdn.com...
> But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast!
> They call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!
There is a NG that I used to visit, that is inhabited by Merkins
who actually know their food, and have an appreciation for
both the above. Go visit a2sbt2lc.
Jana Lockhart
that much.
JJ Lipari <j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote in message
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> I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to
300
> lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
> it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
> JJ
> Janice Pearson <cala...@idirect.com> wrote in message
> news:6R6F4.40177$n03.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > One can only surmise that this gunge you experienced was either in the
> > > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had
a
> > > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
> >
> > No they eat at Denny's, IHOP or Carrow's. The American breakfast
consists
> of
> > three eggs, three pieces of streaky bacon (more fat than meat), three
pork
> > sausages, three pancakes (American style) with syrup and butter and
french
> > fries, home fries or hash browns. Serve that with two slices of pappy
> white
> > or brown bread and more butter and jam, and then a bottomless cup of
> coffee
> > with lashings of cream. Very healthy!
> >
> > Go ahead. Deny it!
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
>
>
ElizabethK
wrote:
>AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
>if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
>white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in Alabama-USA
>call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
>dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how disgusting)-
>Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
>an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
>wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
>crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
>care! Can you believe it?
>
>Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one -- They
>call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>
>Something not quite right about those Brits...;-)
>
Hmmm. Must be the reason that I have at least 18 family members going
strong at over 80, loads still working and travelling etc. over 60 and
my Dear Grandmother, who died recently and was (sadly) buried on her
101st birthday. She died in the house she moved into 80 years before
after her wedding. She had her 12 children in that home. She had never
seen the inside of a hospital in her entire life. The only medical
man she saw was a dentist and that when she was over 80. She was
widowed early. She was the first woman who "dared" to ride on the bus
down the hill, in her village.
Now "she" would have me tell you here today, that she owed her long
life to her evening glass of Guinness and her drinking Schweppes tonic
water whenever she felt a little "off". In fact she believed STW was
medicine - since after all it was called "tonic"
I, however, the only one to have moved to the US, have suffered
several major health problems including cancer and while I am on the
mend, none of the problems I have faced have been heard of in the rest
of my family still in England.
And yes, my diet might possibly be considered better than that of some
of my rellies still at home. Being interested in small farming most
of my life, I read a book some time ago which spoke of this very
thing. Heavy fatty diets etc. The author whose name I have forgotten
unfortunately, suggested that years ago many farm workers took great
slabs of fat bacon to work in their lunch pails and many lived to
great old age. Seemed that it was good honest labour, with lots of
activity, little sitting around, walking to the store instead of gong
in the car, women who had to go shopping almost every day or grow
their own food, etc.etc. which was more likely to contribute to
healthy old age than worrying about bacon and eggs for breakfast.
Floating in lard or not.
And while I am in no way presuming that the above feast is to be
preferred, I think when it was the norm, people tended to have other
differing lifestyles from todays which might have compensated.
And yes, I miss most dreadfully, steak and kidney pudding - made with
suet, and Spotted Dick, and all those mashed potatoes and gravy. Fried
tomatoes? - Had them just yesterday.
And as a footnote, just this week I happened upon a TV show which was
all about travelling and eating in the UK. They felt that much of the
publicity about the food being bad, was extremely misguided and
constantly harped on by those who remember going there many years ago.
They felt that the restaurants, sevice and food were exceptionally
good these days, with many ethnic eateries and others from which to
chose.
Good, bad or indifferent - I miss it all very much.
Liz
ElizabethK
(The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
t an Empire was built on!
>
>greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
>fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
>fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
>
S.Calif. I live in the high desert and we even have several up here.
And pretty good ones at that.
Try going to Santa Monica and other places where many Brits hang out.
You will find more than enough F&C places.
Liz
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> Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
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> > Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> > >
> > > You know, having a Brit offer advice on food is
> > > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> > > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> > > rights... very well, but...
> >
Stanley??
> > California??
>
> Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> stringy beef...
>
> >
> > >
> > > > Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
> > >
> > > Sorry, but the only time I can remember getting
> > > Montezuma's Revenge (Tourists Disease) in the
> > > last 10 years was at Harry Ramsdale's on the
> > > Belfast quay... :O(>
> >
> > One would have thought that such an expert on Fish and Chips, would know
> > that it was Harry Ramsdens, and not Ramsdales.
> > ROFL!!
>
>
> > >
> > > if done properly, but most people in the UK have little
> > > or no clue how to do it right.
> >
> > ROFL!!! Now we are going to get a lecture on British food, by an
American
> > individual who couldn't even figure where to get decent fish and chips
in
> > the first place!
>
> and had the misfortune of sampling every place in Stranraer that
> kept late hours, I figured it couldn't be anywhere around there...
>
> >
> >
> > > The oil (preferably NOT
> > > lard) needs to be hot enough so that the dead bugger
> > > isn't dripping grease like a wet sponge (one or two
> > > pieces of newsprint should be fine for spill containment;
> > > you shouldn't need the entire Sunday Times to do it).
> > >
> > > The Belgians know how to get it right, at least with
> > > the chips part. You should stop beating them up
> > > during football matches and learn how to cook
> > > from them...
> > >
> > > BTW, I clipped the other NG's, as you posted to
> > > too many.. I left the 2 food groups as well as
> > > alt.california, as it would be easier to flame you from
> > > here...
> >
> > At least it may have worked as a form of damage control.
> >
> > Of all the posts you have inserted in this NG, Stanley, this one is a
> > classic. Your dumbest and most arrogant
>
> Your ass heal yet from that whipping
> CB gave you a while back??? :Oo
Chuck?? You are kidding, aren't you?? Please say you are joking. Chuck
couldn't find his own ass with both hands, doesn't have the brains of a
flea, and has been nailed to the wall for his blatant hypocrisy on a daily
basis.
I hardly consider his ignoring the subject matter of a post, in favour of
some weak attack on my character as a "whipping".
>
> Stan
>
>
>
>
The Devil's Advocate©
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to 300
>lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
>breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
>it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
For me left-over pizza straight out the fridge hits the spot in the
morning.
ElizabethK
Were you in The Battle of Britain?
Liz
JJ Lipari
food, although I have always heard it was terrible. But these days I am told
English food is improving, getting more international, becoming more
influenced by foreign cuisines and more interesting ingredients. Cooking is
a hobby of mine, I watch many cooking shows on PBS, and there is one show
called "Two Fat Ladies" that is a lot of fun. These 2 middle aged English
ladies travel around England cooking dinners at various places, and have
presented some very good recipes, not what you'd expect. Plus they joke
around a lot, quote Shakespeare, etc.
JJ
> >news:aFXE4.8691$9m6.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8c0oi4$fq7$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
> >> >
> >> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> >> > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> >> >
> >> > You know, having a Brit offer advice on food is
> >> > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> >> > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> >> > rights... very well, but...
> >>
> >> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
Stanley??
> >> California??
> >
> >Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> >a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> >Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> >stringy beef...
>
> if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> care! Can you believe it?
>
> Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one -- They
> call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>
> Something not quite right about those Brits...;-)
>
>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Aviator
One can only surmise that this gunge you experienced was either in the
mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had a
properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
You might also ask yourself why American food establishments are so fond of
offering what they jokingly refer to as an "English breakfast". Just about
every restaurant I have been to in this country offers it in one disgusting
form or another.
If it was so disgusting, why is it so popular in this country?? Maybe it's
because the American food establishment have to date, not been able to come
up with anything to compare to a properly cooked English breakfast
Go figure
JJ Lipari
I know something about that. "French Fries" were actually invented in
Belgium. Their "national dish" is crispy fried potatoes (pommes frites) and
steamed mussels. American soldiers tasted them during the First World War
and brought the recipe back to the States.
JJnews:38e45760...@news.earthlink.net...
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
> <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
>
> They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
> Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>
hc23hc
>
> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
> > Your ass heal yet from that whipping
> > CB gave you a while back??? :Oo
>
> Chuck?? You are kidding, aren't you?? Please say you are joking.
> I hardly consider his ignoring the subject matter of a post, in favour of
> some weak attack on my character as a "whipping".
It wasn't your "character" Stanley was fantasizing about.
.
.
.
hc23hc
>
> DA,
> I know something about that. "French Fries" were actually invented in
> Belgium. Their "national dish" is crispy fried potatoes (pommes frites) and
> steamed mussels. American soldiers tasted them during the First World War
> and brought the recipe back to the States.
True. DA might be thinking of the Potato Chip (UK: "crisp") whose recipe was
credited (the story goes) to an American, or at least an indentured American
cook named, if memory serves, George Crum.
> The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote
> > Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
Americans seem to have invented the name "French Fries" and hold the
patent on "McFries" too.
.
.
.
Aviator
The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38e46ca6...@news.earthlink.net...
> >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> >care! Can you believe it?
>
> people?
Nothing. The description of an English breakfast offered by Krauw is how an
American would prepare one. As an example, the eggs are not fried in lard,
but rather in a lightly greased pan, with a teaspoon of water added to steam
the top of the egg. This cooks the white thoroughly, but leaves the yolk
just runny enough. Unlike the American style known as "easy over" which
brings the top of the egg into contact with the pan grease.
Does it not make you wonder why just about every restaurant has an English
breakfast on it's menu?? Because it is disgusting as this oaf would have us
believe??
I don't think so.
Yes, I've heard about how greasy the food is in England. And I
> thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
> cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
> some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
> country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
> dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
> no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
> Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there, besides
> Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
>
>
> >Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one --
They
> >call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>
> I've heard of that desert. What is it? Sounds like something you'd go
> to a free clinic for.
I have had visions of a Dachshund between two loaves of bread, but that
doesn't make it a hot dog, does it??
Spotted dick is a sponge pudding wih raisins. Strawberries and cream is the
epitomy of English desserts, as seved at Wimbeldon every year.
Doesn't this goon remind you of all the "experts" on South Africa who have
never been there??
Go figure
hc23hc
>
> Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com > wrote
> > AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
> > if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> > white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in Alabama-USA
> > call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> > dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how disgusting)-
> > Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> > an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> > crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> > care! Can you believe it?
>
> mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had a
> properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
Getting anything properly cooked in England is still a bit of a lottery,
but not much more of one than finding real culinary art in any of the usual
suspect breakfast establishments over here. I mean ... Denny's, Norms ?
No use looking for real food in all the wrong places.
> If it was so disgusting, why is it so popular in this country?? Maybe it's
> because the American food establishment have to date, not been able to come
> up with anything to compare to a properly cooked English breakfast
There are more food groups in an "English Breakfast" than any other.
It can be great, or just a great disappointment, depending on who's
in the kitchen, and on who's doing the serving. Once it's cold, it's
over.
.
.
.
Aviator
>
> The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:38e46ca6...@news.earthlink.net...
> > wrote:
> >
> > >AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
disaster
> > >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
fried
> > >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> Alabama-USA
> > >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
and
> > >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> disgusting)-
> > >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
from
> > >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
that
> > >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> > >care! Can you believe it?
> >
> > thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
> > cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
> > some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
> > country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
> > dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
> > no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
> > Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there, besides
> > Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
>
> local restaranteurs had a fit, because they felt it was
> unfair competition to serve better food at cheaper
> prices, and from a drive-up, no doubt! 'Twas the
> craic at the Drummond Bar until a very politically
> incorrect barman said "Ay, I sort of like the
> Colonel. The food is not as greasy there".
>
> Does that say something, or what???
Nope. Just another anecdote. On the other hand, did Americans not coin the
phrase, "Greasy Spoon"?? Did they not invent Hash Browns, a sponge
manufactred from shredded potatoes, with a higher capacity for grease
retention than a gallon jar??
You should take a good look own American food, before you criticize the food
of any other country. Especially when your country is more famous for its
junk food than anything else. Hell, you even coined the phrase.
Looks like you are wearing your ommelette, Stanley.
>
> Stan
>
>
The Devil's Advocate©
(ElizabethK) wrote:
>You must not get out much. There are loads of Fish and Chip places in
>S.Calif. I live in the high desert and we even have several up here.
>And pretty good ones at that.
>Try going to Santa Monica and other places where many Brits hang out.
>You will find more than enough F&C places.
So where can I find good fish 'n chips in L.A./SFV? I do like them,
when they aren't dripping with grease.
Aviator
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
> <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
>
> They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
Nope. The french fry is a thinner version of the old English chip. And less
healthy
"Weight for weight, homemade thick-cut chips contain around half the fat of
thinner cut French fries. Homemade thick cut chips usually contain about 7%
fat. French fries usually contain around 15% fat. "
"Frying any food in batter or bread crumbs means it will absorb fat. Because
of this, grilled or oven cooked chicken, especially skinless chicken is a
healthier choice than coated, deep fried chicken"
I guess KFC forgot to mention this
http://www.thinkfast.co.uk/low_end/foodfacts/facts.html
Kind of destroys Stanleys argument, don't you think?? >
Fred Towner
thread. I can assure you that Fish & Chips is not considered traditional
Cajun cuisine.
Thank you for your consideration.
> Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one --
> Theycall their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
> >
> > I've heard of that desert. What is it? Sounds like something you'd go
> > to a free clinic for.
>
> I have had visions of a Dachshund between two loaves of bread, but that
> doesn't make it a hot dog, does it??
>
> Spotted dick is a sponge pudding wih raisins. Strawberries and cream is
the
> epitomy of English desserts, as seved at Wimbeldon every year.
As a reward for removing alt.food.cajun from this discussion, I offer the
following;
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
Title: Spotted Dick
Categories: English, Desserts
Yield: 6 Servings
8 oz Self-raising flour
1 pn Of salt
4 oz Margarine
2 oz Castor sugar (Superfine)
4 oz To 6 oz sultanas (Big
-raisins)
6 tb Water
1) Have ready a sheet of foil or a double thickness of greaseproof
paper brushed with melted margarine. 2) Make the pudding crust: Sieve
the flour and the salt. Rub in the margarine. Add the sugar and
sultanas. Mix in the water to make a soft dough. 3) Turn out onto a
floured board and form into a roll. 4) Wrap loosely but securely in
the greaseproof paper or foil. Tie or seal the ends. 5) Place in the
steamer and cover tightly. Steam for 1.1/2 to 2 hours. 6) Serve with
hot custard sauce or sprinkle with castor sugar. Variation: At stage
3: Put the mixture in a medium-sized (1.1/2 pint) pudding basin with
a round of greaseproof paper in the bottom and brush all round inside
with melted margarine. Smooth the top. Cover with foil, or double
greaseproof paper brushed underneath with melted margarine and steam
for 1.1/2 to 2 hours. Serve with hot Custard sauce or sprinkle with
castor sugar.
Shared by Sylvia Mease (Cookie Lady)
RECIPE CLIPPED by Joan Johnson
MMMMM
Lanimal
Painter Man wrote:
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:49:01 GMT, REMOVE-THI...@excite.com (The
> Devil's Advocate?) -- wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
> ><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
> >
> >They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
> >Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>
> YeeeeOWeeee! The Brits are going to rip you a new one! ;-)
>
I don't think anyone over here is really bothered, actually. You can
say what you want about who invented what, but it doesn't actually
change a thing - really.
That's not to say we couldn't ;-)
Cheers
L
hc23hc
>
> Folks, would please be so kind as to remove <alt.food.cajun> from this
> thread. I can assure you that Fish & Chips is not considered traditional
> Cajun cuisine.
Right. It would have to be Blackened Whitefish and Chips to qualify.
.
.
.
Janice Pearson
> mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had a
> properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
No they eat at Denny's, IHOP or Carrow's. The American breakfast consists of
Owen Palmer
outside.
--
Owen 'The aFU regulars are pricks' Palmer
ICQ: 10709834
MM&M <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:50:15 -0600, "Topo Gigio"
> <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >TankSlappa[TiT] <Tanks...@here.com> wrote in message
> >news:p879es0mu1g99udvb...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:59:11 -0000, "Cyrek the Illogical"
> >> <cy...@bigfoot.com> waffled on about something:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in
> >message
> >> >news:38e54a7e...@news.earthlink.net...
> >> >> My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
> >> >> greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
> >> >> fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want
fried
> >> >> fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the
Brits.
> >> >
> >> >Wrong end of the country, my friend. And possibly the wrong fish. The
> >best
> >> >F&C in the UK is found usually in Yorkshire & Lancashire, and the
better
> >> >fish (IMHO) is haddock (not cod as is usually found down south)...
> >> >
> >> >Two words: "Harry Ramsden's" ;-)
> >>
> >> That doesn't help, my brother found a Harry Ramsdens just outside
> >> Sydney Australia!
> >>
> >
> >I wonder if any other Americans here remember the Arthur Treacher's Fish
> >'n' Chips food chain that used to be all over. Prolly the closest thing
we
> >ever had to a F&C shop over here. They have disappeared now as people
have
> >chosen Long John Silvers and Captain D's instead. They are both
disgusting.
>
> What's so disgusting about them? Are they greasy soggy chips or
> what?
JJ Lipari
lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
Janice Pearson <cala...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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Topo Gigio
greasy nasty stuff, yeah. typical american fast food styleee.
Topo
ElizabethK
(The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:14:59 GMT, eliza...@earthlink.net
>(ElizabethK) wrote:
>
>>You must not get out much. There are loads of Fish and Chip places in
>>S.Calif. I live in the high desert and we even have several up here.
>>And pretty good ones at that.
>>Try going to Santa Monica and other places where many Brits hang out.
>>You will find more than enough F&C places.
>So where can I find good fish 'n chips in L.A./SFV? I do like them,
>when they aren't dripping with grease.
>regards,
>The Devil's Advocate
Well TDA, first pay a visit to the Kings Head in Santa Monica. Hang
around in the bar with all the Brits and Aussies and ask where they
like the Fish and Chips. Try the Kings Head variety also while you are
there - if you can get a table.
There are many other F&C places around that area.
In the SFV there used to be a very nice one on that interstection
where all those streets meet on Lankershim and - hmm cant remember the
names of all the other streets there but on Lankership just south of
Magnolia. I'm sure you know where I mean. Also another good one was on
Burbank just west of Victory. Oh and don't forget the Buchanan on
Burbank. Nice English shop with all Brit foods including Walls
sausages and meat pies, pasties, etc. plus a good bar and a great
restaurant with excellent fish and chips - and yes, they serve peas
with everything. Mmmm. Wonderful.
I can write no more about this. It's just too mouth-watering....
Liz
Aviator
hc23hc <hc2...@artlink.ne> wrote in message
news:38E4D89E...@artlink.ne...
> Aviator wrote:
> >
> > Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com > wrote
> > > AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
disaster
> > > if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
fried
> > > white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> > > call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
and
> > > dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> > > Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
from
> > > an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > > wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
that
> > > crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to
not
> > > care! Can you believe it?
> >
> > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had a
> > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
>
> but not much more of one than finding real culinary art in any of the
usual
> suspect breakfast establishments over here. I mean ... Denny's, Norms ?
>
> No use looking for real food in all the wrong places.
>
> > If it was so disgusting, why is it so popular in this country?? Maybe
it's
> > because the American food establishment have to date, not been able to
come
> > up with anything to compare to a properly cooked English breakfast
>
> There are more food groups in an "English Breakfast" than any other.
> It can be great, or just a great disappointment, depending on who's
> in the kitchen, and on who's doing the serving. Once it's cold, it's
> over.
Fair comment.
>
> .
> .
> .
Bill
By whose imagination does blackening a whitefish make it Cajun. Maybe
that makes it Prudhome but not Cajun.
Aviator
Janice Pearson <cala...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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> > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had a
> > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
>
of
> three eggs, three pieces of streaky bacon (more fat than meat), three pork
> sausages, three pancakes (American style) with syrup and butter and french
> fries, home fries or hash browns. Serve that with two slices of pappy
white
> or brown bread and more butter and jam, and then a bottomless cup of
coffee
> with lashings of cream. Very healthy!
>
> Go ahead. Deny it!
Who me?? No way. One thing I do miss is good bacon. The strips of pork fat
with tiny flesh blemishes can hardly be called bacon. Canadian bacon is no
better, and the junk Jenny-O offers isn't fit for human consumption. Pork
sausages on offer in this country are even worse. A decent banger, properly
prepared, has no equal on the breakfast table. The sausages I have found in
local supermarkets tastes more like oatmeal than a sausage.
And Jimmy Deans famous pork sausage has got to be the oiliest, greasiest,
most sickening offering I have come across.
But who am I to criticize?? After all, it was Emeril who said, "Pork Fat
rules!!"
>
> Jan
>
>
>
Aviator
dozr <do...@dozr.none.nu> wrote in message
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> denis lerry?
Who?? Me?? Nah..... But we probably went to different schools together
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:10:56 GMT, "Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >[CiC]-GaRRy- <NOTKILLED-G...@Yah-NOSMAP-oo.com> wrote in message
> >news:KqRE4.3442$VE1....@news3.cableinet.net...
> >> the chips by my house are the best, the bloke makes them orange
somehow.
> >>
> >> FACT: walsall was the birthplace of the battered mars bar.
> >
> >Now THERE is a confectionary to warm the cockles of my heart!
> >>
> >> --
> >> GaRRy "TheBoss" Newman
> >> Official English Breast Inspector
> >> GaRRyT...@Yahoo.COM
> >> www.GaRRyNewman.Co.UK
> >> 32475519
> >>
> >> " Trying is the first step towards failure"
> >> Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> >> > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> >> >
> >> > Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> --
>
> sanity is not an option
>
Stan Rothwell
>
> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:8c1rsb$21p$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:58:09 GMT, Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
> disaster
> > > >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
> fried
> > > >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> > Alabama-USA
> > > >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
> and
> > > >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> > disgusting)-
> > > >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
> from
> > > >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > > >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
> that
> > > >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to
not
> > > >care! Can you believe it?
> > >
And who do you think we got that shit from, Thailand?
>
> Looks like you are wearing your ommelette, Stanley.
Looks like you are exhibiting your illiteracy, Avi.
So what are you going to do now, call me a racist?
Stan
Stan Rothwell
>
> The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:38e46ca6...@news.earthlink.net...
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:58:09 GMT, Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
disaster
> > >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
fried
> > >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> Alabama-USA
> > >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
and
> > >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> disgusting)-
> > >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
from
> > >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
that
> > >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> > >care! Can you believe it?
> >
> > Fried tomato? Ewwwwww! Sounds disgusting. What's wrong with those
> > people?
>
an
> American would prepare one. As an example, the eggs are not fried in
lard,
> but rather in a lightly greased pan, with a teaspoon of water added to
steam
> the top of the egg. This cooks the white thoroughly, but leaves the yolk
> just runny enough. Unlike the American style known as "easy over" which
> brings the top of the egg into contact with the pan grease.
>
> Does it not make you wonder why just about every restaurant has an English
> breakfast on it's menu?? Because it is disgusting as this oaf would have
us
> believe??
KM got it right the first time... it's pretty
nasty stuff..
Stan
Stan Rothwell
> Fred Towner wrote:
> >
> > Folks, would please be so kind as to remove <alt.food.cajun> from this
> > thread. I can assure you that Fish & Chips is not considered
traditional
> > Cajun cuisine.
>
>
> Right. It would have to be Blackened Whitefish and Chips to qualify.
That wouldn't be a racist remark, would it??? :Oo
(using hc-esque logic on herself)
Stan
Stan Rothwell
Cyrek the Illogical <cy...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> > My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
> > greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
> > fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
> > fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
>
> Wrong end of the country, my friend. And possibly the wrong fish. The best
> F&C in the UK is found usually in Yorkshire & Lancashire, and the better
> fish (IMHO) is haddock (not cod as is usually found down south)...
>
> Two words: "Harry Ramsden's" ;-)
The one at the Belfast Quay is a greasy dive... :O(
Stan
hc23hc
>
> hc23hc wrote:
>
> > Fred Towner wrote:
> > >
> > > Folks, would please be so kind as to remove <alt.food.cajun> from this
> > > thread. I can assure you that Fish & Chips is not considered traditional
> > > Cajun cuisine.
> >
> > Right. It would have to be Blackened Whitefish and Chips to qualify.
>
> that makes it Prudhome but not Cajun.
Po'boy, please forgive my feeble attempt at humor. It was before lunch.
Huitres frites, in the declining days of a month with an "r".
.
.
.
Stan Rothwell
> > > >
> > > > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > > > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> > > >
> > > > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> > > > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> > > > rights... very well, but...
> > >
> > > And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
> Stanley??
> > > California??
> >
> > Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> > a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> > Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> > stringy beef...
> >
> > >
> > > Go figure
> > > >
> > > > > Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
> > > >
> > > > Montezuma's Revenge (Tourists Disease) in the
> > > > last 10 years was at Harry Ramsdale's on the
> > > > Belfast quay... :O(>
> > >
> > > One would have thought that such an expert on Fish and Chips, would
know
> > > that it was Harry Ramsdens, and not Ramsdales.
> > > ROFL!!
> >
> > BFD, I went there once and put it on my NO GO list...
> >
> > > >
> > > > Fish 'n Chips (proper Americano spelling) can be good
> > > > if done properly, but most people in the UK have little
> > > > or no clue how to do it right.
> > >
> > > ROFL!!! Now we are going to get a lecture on British food, by an
> American
> > > individual who couldn't even figure where to get decent fish and chips
> in
> > > the first place!
> >
> > Well, having sample hot food bars between Belfast and Derry,
> > and had the misfortune of sampling every place in Stranraer that
> > kept late hours, I figured it couldn't be anywhere around there...
> >
> > >
> > > Pull the other leg, Stanley!!
> > >
> > > > The oil (preferably NOT
> > > > lard) needs to be hot enough so that the dead bugger
> > > > isn't dripping grease like a wet sponge (one or two
> > > > pieces of newsprint should be fine for spill containment;
> > > > you shouldn't need the entire Sunday Times to do it).
> > > >
> > > > The Belgians know how to get it right, at least with
> > > > the chips part. You should stop beating them up
> > > > during football matches and learn how to cook
> > > > from them...
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I clipped the other NG's, as you posted to
> > > > too many.. I left the 2 food groups as well as
> > > > alt.california, as it would be easier to flame you from
> > > > here...
> > >
> > > At least it may have worked as a form of damage control.
> > >
> > > Of all the posts you have inserted in this NG, Stanley, this one is a
> > > classic. Your dumbest and most arrogant
> >
> > At least it's nice to see you post again...
> > Your ass heal yet from that whipping
> > CB gave you a while back??? :Oo
>
> couldn't find his own ass with both hands, doesn't have the brains of a
> flea, and has been nailed to the wall for his blatant hypocrisy on a daily
> basis.
He drove you into hiding, and you didn't exactly
over yourself in glory in sticking up for your
fellow traveler JJ...
Johnny Yen
<the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>
>Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
more than one...
Actually, it is not too surprising that England's most edible dish
was actually taken from Spain, although there are differing
dates as to when it crossed the Bay of Biscay...
The most credible seems to be when Sir Francis Drake
sacked cadiz and made off with the Armada's wine supply,
therefore introducing Britain to sherry...
Johnny Yen
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Never having visited Britain, I cannot comment first hand about British
>food, although I have always heard it was terrible.
most of it is, other than fish and chips, which as mentioned elsewhere
in this thread actually is a Spanish dish...
But these days I am told
>English food is improving, getting more international, becoming more
>influenced by foreign cuisines
Indeed, although this is not surprising, as London is even more
diverse than Los Angeles...
and more interesting ingredients.
True, there is a " New British cuisine ".
Cooking is
>a hobby of mine, I watch many cooking shows on PBS, and there is one show
>called "Two Fat Ladies" that is a lot of fun. These 2 middle aged English
>ladies travel around England cooking dinners at various places, and have
>presented some very good recipes, not what you'd expect. Plus they joke
>around a lot, quote Shakespeare, etc.
Sounds like a fun show.
I love to cook when I have the time, in general I like to mix
different recipes from various mediterranean countries.
>JJ
>Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com > wrote in message
>news:38fc6428...@news.fdn.com...
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:14 -0800, "Stan Rothwell"
>> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
>> >news:aFXE4.8691$9m6.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>> >>
>> >> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8c0oi4$fq7$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
>> >> >
>> >> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
>> >> > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>> >> >
>> >> > You know, having a Brit offer advice on food is
>> >> > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
>> >> > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
>> >> > rights... very well, but...
>> >>
>> >> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
>Stanley??
>> >> California??
>> >
>> >Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
>> >a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
>> >Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
>> >stringy beef...
>>
>> AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
>> if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
>> white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
>Alabama-USA
>> call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
>> dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
>disgusting)-
>> Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
>> an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
>> wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
>> crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
>> care! Can you believe it?
>>
>> Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one -- They
>> call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>>
>> Something not quite right about those Brits...;-)
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >> Go figure
>> >> >
>> >> > > Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
>> >> >
>> >Stan
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Johnny Yen
(The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
>
>They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
All of them are owned by Asians
>Btw, Americans invented "chips" right?
You are very, very wrong.
They're called French Fries.
Invented in Spain, claimed by both Galicia and Andalucia.
From there they spread to the Spanish Netherlands, what
is now Belgium, and from there to France.
They went to Britain directly from Spain though.
>--
>
>regards,
>The Devil's Advocate
>
>
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Johnny Yen
(The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:14:14 +0100, Adie
><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>>
>>Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
>
>My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
>greasy and nasty
Yes, I had some terrible fish and chips in London as well, but I have
had some excellent fish and chips elsewhere. Remember that the
Spanish pescaito frito is the same thing, and can be quite excellent
although it can get a little boring after awhile. The olive oil makes
all the difference, and accompanying it with a glass of manzanilla
or fino ( dry sherries ) makes it quite scrumptious.
. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
>fish n chips
Wrong. There are many places. Even not counting Santa
monica, there is cat and the fiddle on sunset ( reportedly
owned by a former member of legendary 1960s psychedelic
rock band, the creation, of " making time " fame ) . A few
other places. At Ye Olde Kings Head in sm, it is quite
delicious, reminiscent of tempura ( Which also is closely
related ) .
, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
>fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
>
I have to admit an unfamiliarity with the soul food places in LA,
even Aunt Kizzys in the marina which is probably the closest
place to me.
Johnny Yen
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:54:30 GMT,
>REMOVE-THI...@excite.com (The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:14:14 +0100, Adie
>><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>>>
>>>Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
>>
>>My mom tried fish and chips when she was in London, she says it was
>>greasy and nasty. H.Salt is the only place here in L.A. that sells
>>fish n chips, and it's nothing to write home about. If you want fried
>>fish, go to a good soul food establishment and get it, not the Brits.
>
>Ah but your wrong, F&C are a true delight if cooked properly and
>not at all over greasy.
As made at the Kings Head
There are of course exceptions to this
>rule and London is the place to find them. The number one
>priority of London folk is to rip off the unsuspecting Tourist,
>so you have to go a bit further afield than Trafalger Square to
>get a true bag of F&C.
Also its not a good idea to try it in Earls court either for the
same reason
>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
Asians
Johnny Yen
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>DA,
>I know something about that. "French Fries" were actually invented in
>Belgium.
Wrong. They were invented in Spain. Belgium at that time was
ruled by Spain - in fact old French texts refer to a Spanish
border in the northeast as well as the west, which is always
amusing. The Spanish brought them to what was then Spanish
Netherlands.
Both Galicia and Andalucia claim them. I believe the latter, as
the cadiz area is definately the place for pescaito frito con patatas
fritas.
Their "national dish" is crispy fried potatoes (pommes frites) and
>steamed mussels
This is ubiquitous in northern France as well
. American soldiers tasted them during the First World War
>and brought the recipe back to the States.
I'm not sure about this. Wouldn't a more logical origin be
throguh Britain or Spain, both of whom had considerable
interests in the new world ?
>JJ
>The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
>news:38e45760...@news.earthlink.net...
>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
>> <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
>>
>> They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
>> Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>>
>> --
Johnny Yen
>JJ Lipari wrote:
>> =
>
>> DA,
>> I know something about that. "French Fries" were actually invented in
>> Belgium. Their "national dish" is crispy fried potatoes (pommes frites=
>) and
>> steamed mussels. American soldiers tasted them during the First World W=
>ar
>> and brought the recipe back to the States.
>
>True. DA might be thinking of the Potato Chip (UK: "crisp") whose recipe=
> was =
>
>credited (the story goes) to an American, or at least an indentured Ameri=
>can
>cook named, if memory serves, George Crum.
The composer ?
>
>> The Devil's Advocate=A9 <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote =
>
>
>> > Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>
>Americans seem to have invented the name "French Fries" and hold the
>patent on "McFries" too.
This reminds me of someone who went into mcdonalds asking for
haggis...
>=2E
>=2E
>=2E
Johnny Yen
wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:49:01 GMT, REMOVE-THI...@excite.com (The
>Devil's Advocate?) -- wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
>><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
>>
>>They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
>>Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>
>YeeeeOWeeee! The Brits are going to rip you a new one! ;-)
Speaking of this bloke's net pseudonym, The cat and the fiddle,
a very famous English pub/restaurant in LA, is reportedly owned
by a former member of the 1960s psychedelic rock band, the
creation, reknowned for " Painter Man " and " making time "
A great place to have a beer and hang out in the patio. the
place is a great example of traditional spanish architecture...
giving the illusion for a couple minutes anyways of being in
the costa del sol or mallorca, until one goes outside into
Central Hollywood...
George Elting
Been to London, and tried them there, also tried a burger at a
Whimpy(SP) bar.. :)
Not bad at all and great with malt vinegar on it!
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:14:14 +0100, Adie
<the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
>
>Twas the stuff that an Empire was built on!
Just another soggy Seattle Sysop!
JJ Lipari
before you eat it!
I hope you dont also stand right in front of the refrigerator and drink
orange juice right out of the carton, as I have caught my kids doing. That
drives both my wife and me up the wall.news:38e51c6...@news.earthlink.net...
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:23:02 -0800, "JJ Lipari"
> <j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> >I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to
300
> >lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> >breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
> >it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
>
> morning.
JJ Lipari
first encountered "french fries" in Belgium, in the part of Belgium that
speaks a dialect of French called Wallon (sp?). Hence they called them
"french fried potates". However I didnt know that centuries earlier the
Spanish had brought them to Belgium. This would be logical because the
Spaniards were the first to bring the potato from its native South America
to Europe, and the first people in Europe to eat them.
JJ
Johnny Yen <beat...@loop.kom> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:00:40 -0800, "JJ Lipari"
> <j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> >DA,
> >I know something about that. "French Fries" were actually invented in
> >Belgium.
>
> ruled by Spain - in fact old French texts refer to a Spanish
> border in the northeast as well as the west, which is always
> amusing. The Spanish brought them to what was then Spanish
> Netherlands.
> Both Galicia and Andalucia claim them. I believe the latter, as
> the cadiz area is definately the place for pescaito frito con patatas
> fritas.
>
>
> Their "national dish" is crispy fried potatoes (pommes frites) and
> >steamed mussels
>
> This is ubiquitous in northern France as well
>
> >and brought the recipe back to the States.
>
> throguh Britain or Spain, both of whom had considerable
> interests in the new world ?
>
>
> >> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
> >> <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
> >>
> >> They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
> >> Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
> >>
Johnny Yen
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to 300
>lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
>breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
>it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
Sounds like my normal breakfast, and indeed that for most of the
world.
my breakfast habits like much else about me were formed by living in
madrid. It is quite funny btw what mexicans call a " desayuno
español " - it is as off based as the americans who refer to a donut
and a cup of weak american coffee as a " continental breakfast "
>JJ
>Janice Pearson <cala...@idirect.com> wrote in message
>news:6R6F4.40177$n03.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> > One can only surmise that this gunge you experienced was either in the
>> > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had a
>> > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
>>
>> No they eat at Denny's, IHOP or Carrow's. The American breakfast consists
>of
>> three eggs, three pieces of streaky bacon (more fat than meat), three pork
>> sausages, three pancakes (American style) with syrup and butter and french
>> fries, home fries or hash browns. Serve that with two slices of pappy
>white
>> or brown bread and more butter and jam, and then a bottomless cup of
>coffee
>> with lashings of cream. Very healthy!
>>
>> Go ahead. Deny it!
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>
>
Johnny Yen
(The Devil's AdvocateŠ) wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:14:59 GMT, eliza...@earthlink.net
>(ElizabethK) wrote:
>
>>You must not get out much. There are loads of Fish and Chip places in
>>S.Calif. I live in the high desert and we even have several up here.
>>And pretty good ones at that.
>>Try going to Santa Monica and other places where many Brits hang out.
>>You will find more than enough F&C places.
>
>So where can I find good fish 'n chips in L.A./SFV? I do like them,
>when they aren't dripping with grease.
The best is probably the cat and the fiddle on sunset blvd. between
highland and wilcox for LA proper. Dont know about the valley
Johnny Yen
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Well, I learn one new thing every day. I think it is true that Americans
>first encountered "french fries" in Belgium, in the part of Belgium that
>speaks a dialect of French called Wallon (sp?).
Wallonie is the name for that area. I was only in Belgium for a few
hours, either changing trains or passing through.
Hence they called them
>"french fried potates". However I didnt know that centuries earlier the
>Spanish had brought them to Belgium. This would be logical because the
>Spaniards were the first to bring the potato from its native South America
>to Europe, and the first people in Europe to eat them.
cadiz in the southern region of andalucia, and La corunna in the
northern region of Galicia, both claim to have invented fried
potatoes.
I would believe cadiz, as it shared a monopoly on all new world
trade with seville for two and a half centuries.
>JJ
>Johnny Yen <beat...@loop.kom> wrote in message
>news:38e5394a...@nntp.loop.com...
ElizabethK
>highland and wilcox for LA proper. Dont know about the valley
I have actually hear that before I think. However I don't venture down
to the LA area if I can possibly avoid it and thank goodness I have a
perfectly good F&C shop up here. Not the best - but fair.
Liz
tiny
> >Never having visited Britain, I cannot comment first hand about British
> >food, although I have always heard it was terrible.
>
> most of it is, other than fish and chips, which as mentioned elsewhere
> in this thread actually is a Spanish dish..
> But these days I am told
> >English food is improving, getting more international, becoming more
> >influenced by foreign cuisines
> Indeed, although this is not surprising, as London is even more
> diverse than Los Angeles...
> and more interesting ingredients.
> True, there is a " New British cuisine ".
>
> Cooking is
> >a hobby of mine, I watch many cooking shows on PBS, and there is one show
> >called "Two Fat Ladies" that is a lot of fun. These 2 middle aged English
> >ladies travel around England cooking dinners at various places, and have
> >presented some very good recipes, not what you'd expect. Plus they joke
> >around a lot, quote Shakespeare, etc.
>
> Sounds like a fun show.
> I love to cook when I have the time, in general I like to mix
> different recipes from various mediterranean countries.
Do they accept hearsay evidence in Merkin courts?
tiny
news:8c2lai$1o0$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU...
> Never having visited Britain, I cannot comment first hand about British
told
> English food is improving, getting more international, becoming more
is
> a hobby of mine, I watch many cooking shows on PBS, and there is one show
> called "Two Fat Ladies" that is a lot of fun. These 2 middle aged English
> ladies travel around England cooking dinners at various places, and have
> presented some very good recipes, not what you'd expect. Plus they joke
> around a lot, quote Shakespeare, etc.
> Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com > wrote in message
> news:38fc6428...@news.fdn.com...
> > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:14 -0800, "Stan Rothwell"
> > <roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
> > >news:aFXE4.8691$9m6.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > >>
> > >> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:8c0oi4$fq7$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
> > >> >
> > >> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > >> >
> > >> >
I am sure we can rely on your good taste, only posts go this end!
tiny
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> Painter Man wrote:
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:49:01
> > GMT, REMOVE-THI...@excite.com (The
> > Devil's Advocate?) -- wrote:
> > >On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
> > ><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
> > >
> > >They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
> > >Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
> >
> > YeeeeOWeeee! The Brits are going to rip you a new one! ;-)
>
> I don't think anyone over here is really bothered, actually. You can
> say what you want about who invented what, but it doesn't actually
> change a thing - really.
>
> That's not to say we couldn't ;-)
Why the smiley?
tiny
> The cat and the fiddle,
> a very famous English pub/restaurant in LA, is reportedly owned
> by a former member of the 1960s psychedelic rock band, the
> creation, reknowned for " Painter Man " and " making time "
>
> A great place to have a beer and hang out in the patio. the
> place is a great example of traditional spanish architecture...
> giving the illusion for a couple minutes anyways of being in
> the costa del sol or mallorca, until one goes outside into
> Central Hollywood...
Great advert, I am sure everyone is rushing to visit.
tiny
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> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:49:01 GMT, REMOVE-THI...@excite.com (The
> Devil's Advocate?) -- wrote:
> >On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
> ><the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
> >
> >They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
> >Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>
> YeeeeOWeeee! The Brits are going to rip you a new one! ;-)
You are both failed trolls. Whoops, I replied.
tiny
> for sure... Hate to say it, but soggy fish 'n chips
> would be a vast improvement! :Oo
Always.
tiny
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:58:09 GMT, Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
disaster
> > >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
fried
> > >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> Alabama-USA
> > >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
and
> > >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> disgusting)-
> > >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
from
> > >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
that
> > >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> > >care! Can you believe it?
> >
> > people? Yes, I've heard about how greasy the food is in England. And I
> > thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
> > cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
> > some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
> > country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
> > dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
> > no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
> > Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there, besides
> > Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
>
> Funny that when a KFC opened in Ballykelly (NI), the
> local restaranteurs had a fit, because they felt it was
> unfair competition to serve better food at cheaper
> prices, and from a drive-up, no doubt! 'Twas the
> craic at the Drummond Bar until a very politically
> incorrect barman said "Ay, I sort of like the
> Colonel. The food is not as greasy there".
>
> Does that say something, or what???
I can just see them saying it exactly in that way.
tiny
> Now DA, you sound like my teenage kids. At least warm up the cold pizza
> before you eat it!
> I hope you dont also stand right in front of the refrigerator and drink
> orange juice right out of the carton, as I have caught my kids doing.
That
> drives both my wife and me up the wall.
> JJ
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:23:02 -0800, "JJ Lipari"
> > <j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up
to
> 300
> > >lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> > >breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for
me
> > >it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
> >
> > morning.
Yesterdays beer can sous cigarette butt and cold curry, yummy.
tiny
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Any idiot knows, you go down to the local stores, buy a bottle
of Cajun sauce and finished, Cajun beef, lamb, anything.
tiny
They
> >call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>
> to a free clinic for.
Fried green tomato always gets me!
tiny
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> Aviator
> Were you in The Battle of Britain?
Pretty rare for a Merkin to join the RAF, to have fought in
the BoB, unless he emigrated of course, but then he would
be squadron leader, so cannot be.
tiny
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> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:14 -0800, "Stan Rothwell"
> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
> >Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
> >news:aFXE4.8691$9m6.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> >> > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> >> >
> >> > You know, having a Brit offer advice on food is
> >> > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> >> > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> >> > rights... very well, but...
> >>
> >> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
Stanley??
> >> California??
> >
> >Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> >a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> >Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> >stringy beef...
>
> if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> care! Can you believe it?
>
> call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>
You boy, stop playing with yourself and eat you sweet!
tiny
> > The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in
message
> > news:38e46ca6...@news.earthlink.net...
> > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:58:09 GMT, Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> disaster
> > > >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
> fried
> > > >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> > Alabama-USA
> > > >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
> and
> > > >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> > disgusting)-
> > > >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
> from
> > > >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > > >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
> that
> > > >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to
not
> > > >care! Can you believe it?
> > >
> > > people? Yes, I've heard about how greasy the food is in England. And I
> > > thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
> > > cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
> > > some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
> > > country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
> > > dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
> > > no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
> > > Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there, besides
> > > Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
> >
> > local restaranteurs had a fit, because they felt it was
> > unfair competition to serve better food at cheaper
> > prices, and from a drive-up, no doubt! 'Twas the
> > craic at the Drummond Bar until a very politically
> > incorrect barman said "Ay, I sort of like the
> > Colonel. The food is not as greasy there".
> >
> > Does that say something, or what???
>
> phrase, "Greasy Spoon"?? Did they not invent Hash Browns, a sponge
> manufactred from shredded potatoes, with a higher capacity for grease
> retention than a gallon jar??
>
> You should take a good look own American food, before you criticize the
food
> of any other country. Especially when your country is more famous for its
> junk food than anything else. Hell, you even coined the phrase.
>
> Looks like you are wearing your ommelette, Stanley.
Aviator British, well that does not make him a friend.
The Devil's Advocate©
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>I hope you dont also stand right in front of the refrigerator and drink
>orange juice right out of the carton, as I have caught my kids doing. That
>drives both my wife and me up the wall.
Hahah! Just did it this morning. But I am the only one that drink from
my orange juice so it's okay.
The Devil's Advocate©
<j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Well, I learn one new thing every day. I think it is true that Americans
>first encountered "french fries" in Belgium, in the part of Belgium that
>speaks a dialect of French called Wallon (sp?). Hence they called them
>"french fried potates". However I didnt know that centuries earlier the
>Spanish had brought them to Belgium. This would be logical because the
>Spaniards were the first to bring the potato from its native South America
>to Europe, and the first people in Europe to eat them.
Which makes me wonder, why did so many Irish die during the potato
famine? What were they eating before the Spanish brought them to
Ireland?
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>Speaking of this bloke's net pseudonym, The cat and the fiddle,
>a very famous English pub/restaurant in LA, is reportedly owned
>by a former member of the 1960s psychedelic rock band, the
>creation, reknowned for " Painter Man " and " making time "
>
>A great place to have a beer and hang out in the patio. the
>place is a great example of traditional spanish architecture...
>giving the illusion for a couple minutes anyways of being in
>the costa del sol or mallorca, until one goes outside into
>Central Hollywood...
Where is this British pub??? I love going to British pubs. I haven't
heard of this one. Me and my friends will have to check it out. I've
become something of an anglophile and like the British scene,
especially musicially.
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>
>You are very, very wrong.
>
>They're called French Fries.
You're right, I was getting it confused with potato chips. This is
funny, as I'm writing this, I'm munching on potato chips and listening
to British music.
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>The best is probably the cat and the fiddle on sunset blvd. between
>highland and wilcox for LA proper. Dont know about the valley
Is this an all British restuarant? What else is on a "British menu?"
The Devil's Advocate©
wrote:
>I have to admit an unfamiliarity with the soul food places in LA,
>even Aunt Kizzys in the marina which is probably the closest
>place to me.
The best soul food restuarant in the L.A. area is Ma's BBQ in VanNuys.
The best BBQ ribs you could ever dream off. It always wins the "best
of" in the annual L.A. Weekly restuarant review for soul food and BBQ.
The restuarant is kind of in a shoddy neighborhood(very close to where
I used to live prior to moving to Tennessee), but very well worth it.
The walls are covered with autographed pictures of stars. When you see
this in L.A., you know you're in a good restuarant.
tiny
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> I agree we only have breakfast like that on Sunday's and we still don't
eat
> that much.> news:8c2tub$5ar$1...@nntp.Stanford.EDU...
> > I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to
> 300
> > lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> > breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for
me
> > it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
> > Janice Pearson <cala...@idirect.com> wrote in message
> > news:6R6F4.40177$n03.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > One can only surmise that this gunge you experienced was either in
the
> > > > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never
had
> a
> > > > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
> > >
> > > No they eat at Denny's, IHOP or Carrow's. The American breakfast
> consists
> > of
> > > three eggs, three pieces of streaky bacon (more fat than meat), three
> pork
> > > sausages, three pancakes (American style) with syrup and butter and
> french
> > > fries, home fries or hash browns. Serve that with two slices of pappy
> > white
> > > or brown bread and more butter and jam, and then a bottomless cup of
> > coffee
> > > with lashings of cream. Very healthy!
> > >
> > > Go ahead. Deny it!
The definition of 'that much' depends on who you ask!
tiny
> >I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to
300
> >lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> >breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
> >it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
>
> Sounds like my normal breakfast, and indeed that for most of the
> world.
> my breakfast habits like much else about me were formed by living in
> madrid. It is quite funny btw what mexicans call a " desayuno
> español " - it is as off based as the americans who refer to a donut
> and a cup of weak american coffee as a " continental breakfast "
is mud (weak Merkin coffee) an oxymoron?
tiny
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> I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up to
300
> lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for me
> it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
Well, that explains why most Merkins are 300lbs! So how did you resist?
tiny
> Janice Pearson <cala...@idirect.com> wrote in message
> news:6R6F4.40177$n03.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > One can only surmise that this gunge you experienced was either in the
> > > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had
a
> > > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
> >
> > No they eat at Denny's, IHOP or Carrow's. The American breakfast
consists
> > of three eggs, three pieces of streaky bacon (more fat than meat), three
pork
> > sausages, three pancakes (American style) with syrup and butter and
french
> > fries, home fries or hash browns. Serve that with two slices of pappy
> > white or brown bread and more butter and jam, and then a bottomless cup
of
> > coffee with lashings of cream. Very healthy!
> >
> > Go ahead. Deny it!
>
> Who me?? No way. One thing I do miss is good bacon. The strips of pork
fat
> with tiny flesh blemishes can hardly be called bacon. Canadian bacon is no
> better, and the junk Jenny-O offers isn't fit for human consumption. Pork
> sausages on offer in this country are even worse. A decent banger,
properly
> prepared, has no equal on the breakfast table. The sausages I have found
in
> local supermarkets tastes more like oatmeal than a sausage.
>
> And Jimmy Deans famous pork sausage has got to be the oiliest, greasiest,
> most sickening offering I have come across.
>
> But who am I to criticize?? After all, it was Emeril who said, "Pork Fat
> rules!!"
If you say so???
tiny
> > > > AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
> disaster
> > > > if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
> fried
> > > > white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> Alabama-USA
> > > > call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried
> and
> > > > dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> disgusting)-
> > > > Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
> from
> > > > an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE!
No
> > > > wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
> that
> > > > crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to
> not
> > > > care! Can you believe it?
> > >
> > > One can only surmise that this gunge you experienced was either in the
> > > mechanics canteen at Heathrow, or at IHOPS. You clearly have never had
a
> > > properly cooked English breakfast in your life.
> >
> > Getting anything properly cooked in England is still a bit of a lottery,
> > but not much more of one than finding real culinary art in any of the
> usual
> > suspect breakfast establishments over here. I mean ... Denny's, Norms ?
> >
> > No use looking for real food in all the wrong places.
> >
> > > If it was so disgusting, why is it so popular in this country?? Maybe
> it's
> > > because the American food establishment have to date, not been able to
> come
> > > up with anything to compare to a properly cooked English breakfast
> >
> > There are more food groups in an "English Breakfast" than any other.
> > It can be great, or just a great disappointment, depending on who's
> > in the kitchen, and on who's doing the serving. Once it's cold, it's
> > over.
>
> Fair comment.
Stick to cold curry then.
Leon Manfredi
>
>The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
>news:38e45760...@news.earthlink.net...
>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:13:05 +0100, MM&M
>> <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Who runs H.Salt in L.A, are they Brits?
>>
>> They're individually owned. The one I've been to is owned by Asians.
>> Btw, Americans invented "chips" right? They're called French Fries.
>
>Nope. The french fry is a thinner version of the old English chip. And less
>healthy
>
>"Weight for weight, homemade thick-cut chips contain around half the fat of
>thinner cut French fries. Homemade thick cut chips usually contain about 7%
>fat. French fries usually contain around 15% fat. "
>
>"Frying any food in batter or bread crumbs means it will absorb fat. Because
>of this, grilled or oven cooked chicken, especially skinless chicken is a
>healthier choice than coated, deep fried chicken"
>
>I guess KFC forgot to mention this
>
>http://www.thinkfast.co.uk/low_end/foodfacts/facts.html
>
>Kind of destroys Stanleys argument, don't you think?? >
>> --
>>
>> regards,
>> The Devil's Advocate
>>
To All....
Reduce fat by french frying in a good sized toaster oven (best),
or oven, by rinsing, pat dry, and salting french cut potatoes.
This method I got from a TV program, and find that I can have fries,
anytime I wish. None of that not good for you grease.
Although it may be a fat, it's better than some of this other gunk,
that we have no choice of on as to what we put in our gullets.
P.S. do not peel, instead scrub skins well......Tip: I use an old
brass wired, suede brush, that's just been kicking around from
yesteryears.
How? ..... Place salted cuts in lightly sprayed deep sided tray,
pan or whatever fits in oven of choice.....drizzle 3 or more,
tablespoons of peanut oil over them, and toss around well so
that oil covers evenly, and then place in a 425 deg. pre-heated
oven, toss turn fries often till done to taste....
Rotttt'sa'ruck.....Leon
tiny
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> ><roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
> >>> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
Stanley??
> >>> California??
> >>
> >>Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> >>a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> >>Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> >>stringy beef...
> >
> >AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
> >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> >care! Can you believe it?
>
> Lard? you can't get any good Lard with your breakfast anymore...
> Pehraps if you'd actually eaten one rather than tried cooking it
> yourself you might've got it right...
>
> >Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one --
They
> >call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
>
> Oh yeah I've eaten that so often... it just so popular, you really
> can't avoid eating it - The second world war was 50 years ago, back
> then it might've been eaten.
Lard and suet are no longer derived from the cow, so are crap.
tiny
> >AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary disaster
> >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep fried
> >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
Alabama-USA
> >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
disgusting)-
> >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped from
> >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating that
> >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> >care! Can you believe it?
> >
> >Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one --
They
> >call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
> >
> >Something not quite right about those Brits...;-)
> >
> Hmmm. Must be the reason that I have at least 18 family members going
> strong at over 80, loads still working and travelling etc. over 60 and
> my Dear Grandmother, who died recently and was (sadly) buried on her
> 101st birthday. She died in the house she moved into 80 years before
> after her wedding. She had her 12 children in that home. She had never
> seen the inside of a hospital in her entire life. The only medical
> man she saw was a dentist and that when she was over 80. She was
> widowed early. She was the first woman who "dared" to ride on the bus
> down the hill, in her village.
> Now "she" would have me tell you here today, that she owed her long
> life to her evening glass of Guinness and her drinking Schweppes tonic
> water whenever she felt a little "off". In fact she believed STW was
> medicine - since after all it was called "tonic"
> I, however, the only one to have moved to the US, have suffered
> several major health problems including cancer and while I am on the
> mend, none of the problems I have faced have been heard of in the rest
> of my family still in England.
> And yes, my diet might possibly be considered better than that of some
> of my rellies still at home. Being interested in small farming most
> of my life, I read a book some time ago which spoke of this very
> thing. Heavy fatty diets etc. The author whose name I have forgotten
> unfortunately, suggested that years ago many farm workers took great
> slabs of fat bacon to work in their lunch pails and many lived to
> great old age. Seemed that it was good honest labour, with lots of
> activity, little sitting around, walking to the store instead of gong
> in the car, women who had to go shopping almost every day or grow
> their own food, etc.etc. which was more likely to contribute to
> healthy old age than worrying about bacon and eggs for breakfast.
> Floating in lard or not.
> And while I am in no way presuming that the above feast is to be
> preferred, I think when it was the norm, people tended to have other
> differing lifestyles from todays which might have compensated.
> And yes, I miss most dreadfully, steak and kidney pudding - made with
> suet, and Spotted Dick, and all those mashed potatoes and gravy. Fried
> tomatoes? - Had them just yesterday.
> And as a footnote, just this week I happened upon a TV show which was
> all about travelling and eating in the UK. They felt that much of the
> publicity about the food being bad, was extremely misguided and
> constantly harped on by those who remember going there many years ago.
> They felt that the restaurants, sevice and food were exceptionally
> good these days, with many ethnic eateries and others from which to
> chose.
> Good, bad or indifferent - I miss it all very much.
They even have people over 100 who have smoked all their adult lives,
does not make smoking good for you.
sonofagun
Err, Earthlink.net 1 strike.
"My friends" whilst on-line late night Friday, strike two!
The poster wrote in ":Los Angeles" and you are cross-posting to that NG
at least.
Strike 3 and 4 [hint, 3 strikes and you are oot]
Aviator
> Never having visited Britain, I cannot comment first hand about British
> food, although I have always heard it was terrible. But these days I am
told
> English food is improving, getting more international, becoming more
> influenced by foreign cuisines and more interesting ingredients. Cooking
is
> a hobby of mine, I watch many cooking shows on PBS, and there is one show
> called "Two Fat Ladies" that is a lot of fun. These 2 middle aged English
> ladies travel around England cooking dinners at various places, and have
> presented some very good recipes, not what you'd expect. Plus they joke
> around a lot, quote Shakespeare, etc.
Keith Floyd is probably the most popular TV chef in the world. [ I have
taken into consideration that there are those who consider the USA, the
world 8) ] His show is currently broadcast in 25 countries around the
world. It will show those who think that British cuisine is nothing more
than fish and chips, and spotted dick, just how wrong they are
http://www.keithfloyd.co.uk/main.html
His show is a combination of Emeril and a Travelogue. Well worth a watch.
Also on PBS
> JJ
> Krauw Magdoum <kmag...@fdn.com > wrote in message
> news:38fc6428...@news.fdn.com...
> > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:27:14 -0800, "Stan Rothwell"
> > <roth...@ix.netcom.com> -- wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
> > >news:aFXE4.8691$9m6.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > >>
> > >> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:8c0oi4$fq7$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...
> > >> >
> > >> > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > >> > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> > >> >
> > >> > You know, having a Brit offer advice on food is
> > >> > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> > >> > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> > >> > rights... very well, but...
> > >>
> > >> And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
> Stanley??
> > >> California??
> > >
> > >Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> > >a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> > >Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> > >stringy beef...
> >
> > AH! But have you ever had the Full English Breakfast! A culinary
disaster
> > if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
fried
> > white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> Alabama-USA
> > call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep fried and
> > dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> disgusting)-
> > Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill pumped
from
> > an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE! No
> > wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk - eating
that
> > crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to not
> > care! Can you believe it?
> >
> > Now to put the trimmings on this culinary adventure...Try this one --
They
> > call their most popular dessert "SPOTTED DICK!" <snicker>
> >
> > Something not quite right about those Brits...;-)
> >
> >
> > >>
Aviator
> > > incorrect barman said "Ay, I sort of like the
> > > Colonel. The food is not as greasy there".
> > >
> > > Does that say something, or what???
> >
> > Nope. Just another anecdote.
> > On the other hand, did Americans not coin the
> > phrase, "Greasy Spoon"?? Did they not invent Hash Browns, a sponge
> > manufactred from shredded potatoes, with a higher capacity for grease
> > retention than a gallon jar??
> >
> food
> > of any other country. Especially when your country is more famous for
its
> > junk food than anything else. Hell, you even coined the phrase.
>
> >
> > Looks like you are wearing your ommelette, Stanley.
>
> So what are you going to do now, call me a racist?
A spelling flame. How novel!! I guess you must realise how foolish you
look.
Why else would you inject racism into the thread??
Torpedoed and sunk
>
> Stan
>
>
Aviator
tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G0eF4.244$VZ6....@news.dircon.co.uk...> news:Py5F4.9862$9m6.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...> > news:8c1rsb$21p$1...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net...> > > news:38e46ca6...@news.earthlink.net...
> > disaster
> > > > >if there ever was one! An egg fried to a crisp, dripping lard! Deep
> > fried
> > > > >white bread slices, dripping lard! A piece of what the folks in
> > > Alabama-USA
> > > > >call "FAT BACK", (the Brits try to pass off as 'bacon') - deep
fried
> > and
> > > > >dripping its own fat AND lard! A fried (ripe)TOMATO! (god, how
> > > disgusting)-
> > > > >Dripping lard! Then they give you a cup of some sort of swill
pumped
> > from
> > > > >an old hulk in Portsmouth, and try to convince you that it COFFEE!
No
> > > > >wonder that they are such disturbed and sallow looking folk -
eating
> > that
> > > > >crap is torture and they have to do it every day - and they seem to
> not
> > > > >care! Can you believe it?
> > > >
> > > > people? Yes, I've heard about how greasy the food is in England. And
I
> > > > thought America was known as having the most unhealthy food, e.g.,
> > > > cheeseburgers and fries, KFC, apple pie, chili dogs, etc. What are
> > > > some tradition British dishes if there are any? England is not a
> > > > country I associate with cuisine. I can name a bunch of Italian
> > > > dishes, or Greek dishes, or Spanish, Indian, Chinese or Mexican, but
> > > > no dishes come to mind when I think of the U.K. or anywhere in N.
> > > > Europe for that matter. What do people usually eat over there,
besides
> > > > Mc Ds, KFC or whatever else we have sent them from the states.
> > >
> > > Funny that when a KFC opened in Ballykelly (NI), the
> > > local restaranteurs had a fit, because they felt it was
> > > unfair competition to serve better food at cheaper
> > > prices, and from a drive-up, no doubt! 'Twas the
> > > craic at the Drummond Bar until a very politically
> > > Colonel. The food is not as greasy there".
> > >
> > > Does that say something, or what???
> >
> > Nope. Just another anecdote. On the other hand, did Americans not coin
the
> > phrase, "Greasy Spoon"?? Did they not invent Hash Browns, a sponge
> > manufactred from shredded potatoes, with a higher capacity for grease
> > retention than a gallon jar??
> >
> > You should take a good look own American food, before you criticize the
> food
> > of any other country. Especially when your country is more famous for
its
> > junk food than anything else. Hell, you even coined the phrase.
> >
>
Sorry tiny, but I am an American citizen. If you need friends so badly, try
alt.i'm.lonely
>
>
Aviator
Thats it, tiny. Don't forget Betty Crockers Hamburger Helper. Now we are
getting a better idea of American cuisine at it's best.
>
>
Aviator
> an
> > American would prepare one. As an example, the eggs are not fried in
> lard,
> > but rather in a lightly greased pan, with a teaspoon of water added to
> steam
> > the top of the egg. This cooks the white thoroughly, but leaves the yolk
> > just runny enough. Unlike the American style known as "easy over" which
> > brings the top of the egg into contact with the pan grease.
> >
> > Does it not make you wonder why just about every restaurant has an
English
> > breakfast on it's menu?? Because it is disgusting as this oaf would have
> us
> > believe??
>
> KM got it right the first time... it's pretty
> nasty stuff..
Of course, Stanley. That is why it is the breakfast on almost every menu in
the USA. Right?? It must really be disgusting for so many restaurants to
offer and serve it.
You don't think much of American restaurants, do you Stan?? After all, most
of them serve up this swill.
ROFL!!
>
> Stan
>
>
Aviator
> Now DA, you sound like my teenage kids. At least warm up the cold pizza
> before you eat it!
> I hope you dont also stand right in front of the refrigerator and drink
> orange juice right out of the carton, as I have caught my kids doing.
That
> drives both my wife and me up the wall.
Why not Lippy?? It IS the American way, isnt it??
8)
> JJ
> The Devil's Advocate© <REMOVE-THI...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:38e51c6...@news.earthlink.net...
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:23:02 -0800, "JJ Lipari"
> > <j...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm an American and have never eaten a breakfast that big...I'd be up
to
> 300
> > >lbs. if I even thought of eating like that. Most people only really eat
> > >breakfast on the weekends, during the week few have time. Usually for
me
> > >it's a cup of coffee with a little milk, and one or 2 pieces of toast.
> >
> > For me left-over pizza straight out the fridge hits the spot in the
> > morning.
> >
> > --
> >
> > regards,
> > The Devil's Advocate
> >
> >
> > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Aviator
> > > > >
> > > > > Adie <the_happy_snet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:snn7esso382v68d16...@4ax.com...
> > > > > > Have you ever tried English Fish & Chips and did you like them?
> > > > >
> > > > > You know, having a Brit offer advice on food is
> > > > > sort of like listening to the Indonesians in East
> > > > > Timor lecture the rest of the world on human
> > > > > rights... very well, but...
> > > >
> > > > And where do you think all those old American recipes came from
> > Stanley??
> > > > California??
> > >
> > > Dunno about you, but my mom cooked up
> > > a lotta tacos, enchiladas, and good stuff.
> > > Never did like smashed potatoes and grey
> > > stringy beef...
> > >
> > > >
> > couldn't find his own ass with both hands, doesn't have the brains of a
> > flea, and has been nailed to the wall for his blatant hypocrisy on a
daily
> > basis.
>
> He drove you into hiding, and you didn't exactly
> over yourself in glory in sticking up for your
> fellow traveler JJ...
Lessee. I have a life that doesn't involve watching alt.cal 24/7, and I
happen to agree on one or two comments made by Lippy, and you, in all your
wisdom [ROFL!] have concluded that I got my butt whipped by a moron who
spends three hours stringing two sentences together.
Yeah, right!
>
> So what are you going to do now, call me a racist?
Only if you REALLY ask me nicely!
>
> Stan
>
>