Sushi is expensive
Reid 01
other cities (price AND portions). In pittsburgh, a california roll is $3.99
for 6 pieces and so is a Tekka Makki. Kappa makki (cucumber roll) is $2.99 for
6 pieces. Spider rolls 6pc. are about $8 (soft shell crab). Futomaki 6pc. is
$6.99. The pieces of each roll are small, they are about 1" in diameter. As far
as sushi and sashimi go, Ikura is $4.25 for 2 pieces, Ebi is $3.50 for 2,Tobiko
$4.15 for 2, Uni is $5.25 for 2, Tuna is $3.50 for 2, Salmon is also $3.50 for
2, Yelowtail is $4 for 2. The cuts in the order of sushi are about an inch wide
and about 3" long. In sashimi order it is the same price for 3 paper thin cuts
that are rather small. I bet that sushi is about this price in other cities,
and it is highway robbery! Don't get me wrong, i love sushi, it is my favorite
food. If you knew what the sushi places pay for fish you would agree that sushi
is a rip off. On 2 pieces of ikura there is 2 teaspoons of ikura and they
charge $4.25! 2 teaspoons of salmon roe is about 1/30 of a pound, correct me if
i'm wrong. Ikura costs the restaurants less than $20/lb.! That means that
there is about 60-80cents of ikura on a $4.25 order! As far as tuna goes, it is
even worse of a rip off. My friend's family owns a seafood market and they have
a sushi bar. The guy who makes the sushi admitted that Tuna only costs him
$8/lb.! That means that there is less than $1 of tuna on a $4 Tekka maki. The
worst by far is the california roll. It costs maybe 40 cents to make it and
they charge $4, even $5 at some places around here, and remember all of the
sushi bars around here are much smaller than yours, they only make rolls with 6
pieces and the pieces are about the size of a half-dollar. Sushi is highway
robbery!!
People
astonished us by rearranging he electrons to produce:
> I am wondering how the sushi bars in Pittsburgh compare to other sushi bars in
*snip*
> If you knew what the sushi places pay for fish you would agree that sushi
> is a rip off.
*snip*
I do know, but I don't agree.
> The guy who makes the sushi admitted that Tuna only costs him
> $8/lb.! That means that there is less than $1 of tuna on a $4 Tekka maki. The
> worst by far is the california roll. It costs maybe 40 cents to make it and
> they charge $4, even $5 at some places around here, and remember all of the
> sushi bars around here are much smaller than yours, they only make rolls with 6
> pieces and the pieces are about the size of a half-dollar. Sushi is highway
> robbery!!
As Joe Bob Briggs would be wont to say, I am surprised I have to tell you
guys this, :-) , but...
By saying it's a rip-off, you're saying that they are reaping excessive
profits? The answer is obvious then, set up shop and reap those excessive
profits. Or make it at home. Or patronize cheaper sushi places. Our
economy sports this little thing called a market mechanism, subject to
suppy and demand. What the hot dog stand pays for his franks is
completely immaterial (well, almost) to his selling price. Location,
tranportation, marketing, preparation, competition all loom larger.
Food costs generally run 20% to 35% in a restaurant, so selling something
for 5 times the cost would fall within this range, but I digress. Ever
buy an avocado out-of-season on the right coast? How much of that avocado
will spoil before it can be used? Ever heard of fixed costs, variable
costs, sunk costs, overhead, barriers to entry, consumer preference?
A decent CA roll cannot be made for $.40 in materials, even ignoring the
time; effort and skill required, not at least the ones I make. YMMV.
Paladin
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Karen Christians
$1.25,
the real charge is about $.07! Now that is highway robbery!
With sushi, don't forget about the labor involved. It takes skill and
artistry. You can't just factor the price of tuna and rice.
I had a customer who got upset over the price of piece of jewelry
they were paying for a comission. This involved some gold, silver
and stones. The total price for a pair of earrings was $250. They
complained because they computed gold to be $340 an ounce
and the silver only $5.40 an ounce and felt there was no way
that amount of metal in the earrings. I worked on these earrings
for eight hours. That gave me about $31.25 per hour of labor including
materials. This pays for my overhead on my studio, design, etc.
A good massage therapist will cost you between $50-65 an hour.
A good lawyer, about $85-125. Why should my time be any different.
After I explained the entire process to the customer, they were quite
pleased and ordered another pair! So you never know.
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David Richards
People <peop...@shell3.ba.best.com> wrote:
>On 28 Nov 1998, Reid 01 took a break from posting to alt.tv.simpsons and
>astonished us by rearranging he electrons to produce:
>
>profits? The answer is obvious then, set up shop and reap those excessive
>profits. Or make it at home. Or patronize cheaper sushi places. Our
>economy sports this little thing called a market mechanism, subject to
>suppy and demand. What the hot dog stand pays for his franks is
>completely immaterial (well, almost) to his selling price. Location,
>tranportation, marketing, preparation, competition all loom larger.
Absolutely.
I find that I don't save any money making sushi at home, even without
considering the time invested in making the sushi and cleaning up- just due
to the time and money to find and buy the right ingredients requires visiting
three stores- a korean grocery in the city for inexpensive rice and nori,
Sea Ranch in Wilmette for the fish, and Yaohan for everything else :-)
>Food costs generally run 20% to 35% in a restaurant, so selling something
>for 5 times the cost would fall within this range, but I digress. Ever
>buy an avocado out-of-season on the right coast? How much of that avocado
>will spoil before it can be used? Ever heard of fixed costs, variable
>costs, sunk costs, overhead, barriers to entry, consumer preference?
>
>A decent CA roll cannot be made for $.40 in materials, even ignoring the
>time; effort and skill required, not at least the ones I make. YMMV.
The ones I make at home tend to turn into a california futomaki, which
would make the cost for the rice and nori forty cents by themselves :-)
akia
Hi,
sushi -is- somewhat expensive.
but here in Memphis (thanks to Fedex Fresh Fish) I have choices of where I go....
for good low cost sushi I go to Happy Sushi (next to Shu's chinese
restaurant)...I've never managed to go past 25$ per person.
a step up would be Sekisui midtown for the boat happy hour specials...and you can
get stuff that's not in the boats at happy hour prices if you just ask....
then Mikasa and Sekisui out east.
I understand there are some new sushi places out in the galleria area but I
haven't tried them yet.
Reid 01
family out to dinner?? Here is what it costs an avg. family of 4:
4 miso soups= $6
4 salads= $6
8 calif. rolls= $32
4 tekka makki= $24
4 ebi= $12
4 kani= $12
that is $92, not including tax + tip.
After tax and tip it would be at least $115-125
That is more than it would cost to take my family out to a fancy, $20/steak, a
la carte steakhouse AND it is way more than it would cost for 4 people at a
normal restaurant. What do all of you "sushi is NOT expensive" people have to
say to this? $120 for 4 people at a casual restaurant is outrageous! And all
the food was cheap! I didn't figure in $8 spider rolls or 4 orders of TORO!
Reid 01
about how a $1.25 Coke is over $1 profit. BUT, you are only paying for 1 coke a
person, and it is only 1 dollar you are wasting. In SUSHI you are paying $100
for about $10 of products. That is much different then over-paying for a coke.
What I am saying is that a whole meal of throwing away money makes a bigger
impact then throwing away $1.25 for a coke.
Lady Nina
>impact then throwing away $1.25 for a coke.
You get what you pay for.
You want quality dining, you pay for it. You want cheap, go get a happy meal.
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Ken Blake
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$120 for four people is more expensive than lots of
restaurants, and less expensive than lots of others. It's
even more expensive than lots of *sushi* restaurants, and
less expensive than lots of others.
Four people can easily spend $600 (or more) for dinner with
wine at a posh French restaurant in lots of cities in the
US. Is it worth it? That's up to you. If you consider such
prices "outrageous," then don't eat there, whether it's
sushi or Coq au Vin.
Personally, I eat at a lot of different kinds of
restaurants, with a wide variety of prices. I generally
enjoy the more expensive restaurants more, but because I
can't afford them all the time, I save them for special
occasions.
What any of us is willing to spend on a restaurant meal (or
any other pleasure in life) depends on our financial status
and how valuable we find the pleasure. For example, my wife
and I spend very little money on clothing, but a
comparatively high amount on restaurant meals. Someone else
might choose to do just the opposite. Neither of us is right
or wrong, and neither of us should tell the other that the
way he spends his money is "outrageous." We are all
different and have different values. Nobody should try to
impose his values on someone else.
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Karen Christians
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Reid 01 wrote:
> No Offense to all "Happy Sushi" restaurant lovers, but I wouldn't want to eat
> raw fish and hand-prepared food from a place called "Happy Sushi" Does anyone
> else agree??
Wm. J. Clinton
> raw fish and hand-prepared food from a place called "Happy Sushi" Does anyone
> else agree??
Hi,
Happy Sushi in Memphis is part of a little 3 shop strip...a "chinese" restaurant,
a pretty good size market, and a little deli style sushi bar....no seats at bar,
but tables...a lot of call in and to go sushi...I go in and order there...that
way I can checkout the fish.
quality of the sushi varies a LOT...for example don't ever just order a cali-roll
in the restaurant...they just get it out of the case...but if you're nice to the
ita-san you can get good sushi cheap...
John F. Eldredge
>
>Hi,
>
>sushi -is- somewhat expensive.
>
>but here in Memphis (thanks to Fedex Fresh Fish) I have choices of where I go....
>
>for good low cost sushi I go to Happy Sushi (next to Shu's chinese
>restaurant)...I've never managed to go past 25$ per person.
By a lot of people's standards, including mine, $25.00 per person is
expensive. You can get a good meal in most restaurants for $10.00 or
so per person. At lunch time, you can usually find a good meal for
$7.00 or less. Admittedly, I'm not talking about sushi, but I'm not
talking about McDonalds either.
>
>a step up would be Sekisui midtown for the boat happy hour specials...and you can
>get stuff that's not in the boats at happy hour prices if you just ask....
>
>then Mikasa and Sekisui out east.
>
>I understand there are some new sushi places out in the galleria area but I
>haven't tried them yet.
>
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Stuart Cracraft
really bad for you.
Sushi is good for you isn't it?
Stuart Cracraft
Maybe in Hoboken, Oklahoma, and without wine or cocktails, mebeee.
Charles Demas
Stuart Cracraft <crac...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I don't think $10 per person would buy a great meal on eithre coast.
>Maybe in Hoboken, Oklahoma, and without wine or cocktails, mebeee.
Great meals at great restaurants are much more expensive than $10.
The best sushi restaurant here in Boston would be less expensive
than the other best steakhouses, or best Italian restaurants, etc.
One must compare apples and apples. It is not possible to find
frog legs, or Chateaubrien, or lobster thermadore at $10.
Yes, sushi isn't cheap, neither is caviar. There are places that
do sell it for about $1 per piece though. When you compare that
with McDonalds Chicken selects (at about $.75 each in a box of 4),
it can be reasonable though. FWIW, I think that the McDonald
things are overpriced.
One should also consider the presentation involved. Sushi isn't
just food, it's art too.
Chuck Demas
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>Maybe in Hoboken, Oklahoma, and without wine or cocktails, mebeee.
At my favorite sushi restaurant in Boston, I can get the lunch special for
$8.50. I have them make the tuna roll spicy, which adds another dollar. (It's
worth it though, because with the lunch special, you get 4 pieces of pre-made
tuna roll... for the extra dollar, you get six pieces, they're bigger, fresher,
and have avocado in them). So for LESS than $10, I get a consistently great
bowl of miso soup and a good variety of sushi, FIFTEEN pieces in fact! (As well
as all the green tea I want). I am no longer hungry when done, either.
Rigger
(Reid 01) wrote:
>>What I am saying is that a whole meal of throwing away money makes a bigger
>>impact then throwing away $1.25 for a coke.
<unlurk>
Here; make it easy on yourself:
If you think sushi's too expensive, then don't eat it. Go eat something
more in line with your personal system of values.
Now, how hard was that to deal with?
I'd gladly drop $50 on an evening of miso, sushi & a coupla Kirin Ichibans
for myself... $100 if the S.O. joins me. So what? It's _my_ money, and if
I feel that I'm getting my C-note's worth (and I usually do at my local
sushi-ya), then that's all that matters.
It is, after all, referred to as "disposable" income...
"Bigger impact" on what, anyway?
</unlurk>
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